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Mate 9 Pro vs S7 edge

Fellow XDA members check out my video comparison of the Huawei Mate 9 Pro and the Samsung galaxy s7 edge, you will be surprised, Mod Edit

Anyone else prefer the s7 edge over the Mate 9 Pro?

Since we're discussing the Mate 9 as well (vs Mate 9 Pro), i'll re-add the comments i previously deleted. Chose the Mate 9 over S7E due to (a) battery life, (b) preference for flat (or much less of a curved) screen and (c) big screen with good form factor. S7E served me well for 8 months. I'm not a fan of the S7E's curved screen, but the Note 7 curved screen was doable. With the Note 7 "evaporating" from the smartphone scene, (for me) there were no viable alternatives until i saw/fondled the Mate 9. i've made a few compromises to use the Mate 9 (vs the S7E) such as opting for the FHD vs QHD screen, better camera on S7E, etc. (for me) Mate 9 offers best form/function capabilities, camera will support my use/needs and the compromises i've accepted (in my opinion) are not show stoppers. did i mention that, with the addition of an active stylus, i can manage my Note 7 withdrawal symptoms until the international version of the Note 8 is available? finally, i cut the cord with my S7E when i gave it to my wife as her "yearly" upgrade until the S8 is available for her.

ramheer said:
Anyone else prefer the s7 edge over the Mate 9 Pro?
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I don't. I couldn't be more satisfied with my M9.

ramheer said:
Anyone else prefer the s7 edge over the Mate 9 Pro?
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Nope. Sold my S7E for Mate 9 and never looked back. Mate 9 is superior against S7 family in every way, except one. Waterproof.
Mate 9 camera is just awesome.

sobelixtus said:
Nope. Sold my S7E for Mate 9 and never looked back. Mate 9 is superior against S7 family in every way, except one. Waterproof.
Mate 9 camera is just awesome.
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No way the s7 edge camera is better, especially in low light and dark situations

albertobom said:
I don't. I couldn't be more satisfied with my M9.
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What do you think of the Mate 9 pro?

ramheer said:
What do you think of the Mate 9 pro?
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Well I own the Mate 9 normal because I like the design the best. But I think you wouldn't be missing nothing if you choose it instead of s7

ramheer said:
No way the s7 edge camera is better, especially in low light and dark situations
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In good and "normal" light Mate has much better dynamics and colors are more natural. I don't like how much S7 is sharpening the pictures and you can see it by zooming the picture.
In really dark situations S7 takes better pictures (f1.7 is able to gather more light than f2.2) but Mate's monochrome sensor gives additional boost to Mate. So in overall I would rate Mate and S7 pictures pretty close, but slight edge on S7 side in dark.
But Mate camera is more capable with all different modes (Leica colors, light trails, monochrome sensor etc.) so in overall Mate is better in camera area.
This is my personal opinion and I have used S7 Edge 6 months before buying Mate.

sobelixtus said:
In good and "normal" light Mate has much better dynamics and colors are more natural. I don't like how much S7 is sharpening the pictures and you can see it by zooming the picture.
In really dark situations S7 takes better pictures (f1.7 is able to gather more light than f2.2) but Mate's monochrome sensor gives additional boost to Mate. So in overall I would rate Mate and S7 pictures pretty close, but slight edge on S7 side in dark.
But Mate camera is more capable with all different modes (Leica colors, light trails, monochrome sensor etc.) so in overall Mate is better in camera area.
This is my personal opinion and I have used S7 Edge 6 months before buying Mate.
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See I would agree but then I did a side by side comparison and was surprised how poor the Mate 9 is in dark situations, I will have to look into further

ramheer said:
See I would agree but then I did a side by side comparison and was surprised how poor the Mate 9 is in dark situations, I will have to look into further
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I have noticed that it depends of the darkness. In really dark situations, without any light, S7 Edge is superior against Mate. But then again, I don't usually take that kind of shots with my phone.
Mate 9 starts to shine if there is some kind of a light source in picture

sobelixtus said:
I have noticed that it depends of the darkness. In really dark situations, without any light, S7 Edge is superior against Mate. But then again, I don't usually take that kind of shots with my phone.
Mate 9 starts to shine if there is some kind of a light source in picture
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I like the Mate 9 camera, it is very good, it just depends on how someone personally uses it and what situations

Beside low light, I think laser focus is still inconsistent & slow compare with S7 dual pixel focus.. It makes alot difference when capturing kids..

with root i can uc and uv? the mate 9?

firefox1991 said:
with root i can uc and uv? the mate 9?
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There are not custom kernels yet.

so what it the meaning to root XD, only to greenify? or tasker?

Both take sh**ty pictures in low light, even if one is slightly better than the other, its still sh**ty. But I digress, I switched from S7E to Mate 9 purely because apps launch quicker, longer battery life, Leica optics, flat screen, and that super charge tho!

Just bought mate 9 to replace s7e, gonna miss the awesome dac and ip68 rating as well as dual pixel focus but the m9 is much better in terms of speed, battery big beautiful IPS screen, slightly better camera in normal light, crazy fast and doesn't throttle on gaming due to no DVFS like in sammy phones....
Still evaluating the M9, but it seems a big keeper, now as for DAC it serves mine Sennihizer Momentum HP well.
Does anyone have a recommendation for a good usb DAC?

ramheer said:
No way the s7 edge camera is better, especially in low light and dark situations
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Agree but either way those good low light pictures are not that great

Got a burned pixel on my s7E after just 2 months, switched to Mate 9 pro. I was already impressed by the P9 but the LON exceeded my expectations, the Leica is sublime, the design is way more better than that of the S7E. Graphic performance are less impressive but there's a feeling of strength combined to the smooth and fluidity that makes the Huwaei machine better in my opinion. Sound output and battery life are also better on my LON.

Redmi note 7 Vs 7 pro? Real camera advantages?

Hello, I am really in doubt on which one to buy. My real interest is about the camera : I haven't found a single comparison between the Samsung and the Sony cameras of the two devices. Do the photos of the pro version really justify the 100+$ of difference and the missing b20 band? Right now I have a redm note 3 Pro and it's perfect for my everyday needs, so a super SoC or a lot of ram would probably be wasted as I don't play at all with my phone. Any advice? Thanks!

paraponzi said:
Hello, I am really in doubt on which one to buy. My real interest is about the camera : I haven't found a single comparison between the Samsung and the Sony cameras of the two devices. Do the photos of the pro version really justify the 100+$ of difference and the missing b20 band? Right now I have a redm note 3 Pro and it's perfect for my everyday needs, so a super SoC or a lot of ram would probably be wasted as I don't play at all with my phone. Any advice? Thanks!
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I'm also curious. I watched hundereds of comparisons and from what i understood the sony sensor offers better dynamic range and sharpness. Depth of field (background blur) is same due to same sensor size.
By not a higher margin btw.

GTRanushka said:
I'm also curious. I watched hundereds of comparisons and from what i understood the sony sensor offers better dynamic range and sharpness. Depth of field (background blur) is same due to same sensor size.
By not a higher margin btw.
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Do you have link??? I would like to see results. And also Gcam results, if it is not only in app.

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Samsung Galaxy Note 10 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Did Samsung improve the shutter speed on Note10+?? When I had the S10+ the still photos looked great, however it was hard to get a picture of my daughter(18mo old) that didn't look blurry

I spent a couple of days doing camera comparisons with my Pixel 3 XL, which I sent back on Friday (got my Note 10 on Wednesday). I found that I personally like the photos in daylight better from the Note 10, as they look just a bit more "punchy" and clear to me, but that's Samsung applying a deeper saturation and more sharpening. YMMV on that. Early reviews I read online said that it was on par with the Pixel 3 in daylight, but quickly fell apart in low light. I'm happy to report that wasn't my experience at all. Night mode works great, and while it would be nice to have an indicator of how long to hold it, it seems to be just as fast at the Pixel 3. The Pixel 3 did beat it out just a bit with clarity, but not by a very wide margin. I did some blind comparison test between shots from the Note 10 and the Pixel 3 XL with my girlfriend (who has a Pixel 3 XL of her own), and 9 of the 11 shots she picked were the Note 10 shots over the Pixel 3. She prefered the Pixel 3's selfie shot and it's Night Sight shot, but she said she really couldn't tell much of a difference in them.
Aside from quality, I like different Live Focus backgrounds, and being able to swipe up from a corner on the lockscreen to get to the camera is a huge plus for me. It's much faster for me to go from pocket to shot now. I'm going to a convention this weekend, so I expect to get some good use out of the triple cameras too. All in all, I'm beyond happy with the Note 10 camera, and coming from the Pixel 3 XL, I was very concerned, as that was hands down the best camera on a phone I'd ever used. The Note 10 isn't leaps and bounds better, but it is better, in my opinion.

As much as I like Note 10, camera is crap compared to Pixel 3. I've been shooting all day and most images are near useless if subject is moving, automatic in anything less then ideal conditions is also terrible, and can only be improved with Pro mode. Faces are too white and details are all washed out. I had exactly the same results with S10 that I returned
I am not sure what Samsung is thinking. Big company and great hardware, $1000 phone, yet software is not good and photos are behind even Pixel 1
Ps. I am leaning towards keeping the phone anyway and will give Gcam a try

Note 10+ Night Camera is really crap compared to the Pixel phone.... Ugh... Samsung again with their bs

EclipseGST20 said:
Did Samsung improve the shutter speed on Note10+?? When I had the S10+ the still photos looked great, however it was hard to get a picture of my daughter(18mo old) that didn't look blurry
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No they haven't. I had a good hands on with the device at their stores and took my kids to just specially test this out.
I sold my S10 plus for this very reason and unfortunately in the Note note 10, they still haven't sorted it out. I had a Galaxy Note 8 and that was the last Samsung without this issue. I think it's something to do with the dual aperture.
Installing Gcam seems to help a lot but I have Exynos chip and doesn't get ported very well.

You have to use Pro mode in order to get anything useful with moving subject. Or Gcam maybe, I haven't tried yet

Daylight shots are very good though, I would say even better then Pixel

ZayaanAhyaan said:
No they haven't. I had a good hands on with the device at their stores and took my kids to just specially test this out.
I sold my S10 plus for this very reason and unfortunately in the Note note 10, they still haven't sorted it out. I had a Galaxy Note 8 and that was the last Samsung without this issue. I think it's something to do with the dual aperture.
Installing Gcam seems to help a lot but I have Exynos chip and doesn't get ported very well.
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Same thing here with my wife's S10e. Since my S7 I hate this. Nowadays I have an iPhone Xr and this is not a problem, fortunately... But I'd like to go back to Android again... Maybe with Pixel 4...
Using pro mode on S10e I've got a nice result setting the shutter speed at least at 1/250. But you lose performance on HDR... So it's like a short sheet... You cover something and uncover other...

That's another mess, the pro mode.
On my note 8, i chose to keep a fast shutter speed and my preferred white balance with iso as a shortcut on home screen. This way it allowed me to directly jump into 3 of my preferred pro mode setting directly without fiddling and adjusting, but as always, Samsung had to take a damn step back and removed this shortcut starting from note 9.

Hmmmnnn. I had a note 8, and all the others besides the 9. Any of them, like any other cameras I have used(cameras and camcorders), with the faster shutter speeds, I always use manual(or as Samsung likes to call pro). I guess most of my subjects when I learned were really fast(rc helicopters doing aerobatics and saltwater reef tanks), so the old rule of 'learn manual shooting first and don't rely on auto' saved me.
Neither of those environments are ideal, and i learned to just 'make' the cameras work for me. It's not a fault of the devices, it's just the honest inherent nature of auto mode.. I also love macro photography, so that is another realm in which manual knowledge is key..
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The portrait mood has bee the single most disappointing feature for me, perhaps we are spoiled by the gcam quality, but samsung could have done better.
Having an Exynos device makes it even more challenging to find a stable fully functional gcam.
I am almost inclining towards finding a pixel (2/3a or 3) just for camera capabilities.
Even the poco with it's xiaomi camera did a better job at portraits

watsinaname said:
The portrait mood has bee the single most disappointing feature for me, perhaps we are spoiled by the gcam quality, but samsung could have done better.
Having an Exynos device makes it even more challenging to find a stable fully functional gcam.
I am almost inclining towards finding a pixel (2/3a or 3) just for camera capabilities.
Even the poco with it's xiaomi camera did a better job at portraits
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Portrait is very good as far as i'm concerned. Maybe malfunctionning device ? I have exynos as well and no pb with photos (EDIT : i have Note 10 Plus though so maybe TOF does the job).
My portait photos are probably the most striking and accurate i ever took with a smartphone, i have very nice pics of my kids taken with it.
Single hairs on sides are not blurred either, it only blurs the background and does it right.

I am very disappointed with cameras .
Low definition and quality when you do not have 100% of light .
Night mode it **** also.
I came from op6 and did better photos stock and with gcam.
Samsung camera processing it is the worst one

villadecai said:
I am very disappointed with cameras .
Low definition and quality when you do not have 100% of light .
Night mode it **** also.
I came from op6 and did better photos stock and with gcam.
Samsung camera processing it is the worst one
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Plain wrong... Post exemple or it never happened.

Camera is not good but much better than OP7
villadecai said:
I am very disappointed with cameras .
Low definition and quality when you do not have 100% of light .
Night mode it **** also.
I came from op6 and did better photos stock and with gcam.
Samsung camera processing it is the worst one
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I compared with OP7 and found that Note 10 (Exynos) is far better when compared to OnePlus 7.
Though Pixel 2 XL have much better camera

Just wondering whether the staggering difference in photo quality between Exynos and Snapdragon versions of Note 10 is here as well. I was shocked how far better was Galaxy S9 (Snapdragon) in this term.

Definitely isn't this year...the Exynos model has improved a lot so much so there's a huge difference between the photo quality of the note 10 and the S10 5g I had.

new update to camera today

watsinaname said:
The portrait mood has bee the single most disappointing feature for me, perhaps we are spoiled by the gcam quality, but samsung could have done better.
Having an Exynos device makes it even more challenging to find a stable fully functional gcam.
I am almost inclining towards finding a pixel (2/3a or 3) just for camera capabilities.
Even the poco with it's xiaomi camera did a better job at portraits
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That is weird, I find portrait quality to be much better than my Note 8 and iphone XS Max, edge definition is outstanding compared to iphones and I have taken portrait shots that are as good (resolution aside) as my Canon 70D with 85mm lens.

Quick Review

For background I've had the lot this year, iPhone XS, P30 Pro, S10e, Pixel3, Xperia 1 (the list goes on). I love phones and spend far too much on them, this is purely setting the scene on where my review is coming from.
Design - Excellent - Personally i'd like it to be a little smaller but it's a great looking unit
Screen - Great - Not as sharp as some competitors with WQHD but no curved edges...YES !!!
Camera - Great- Not as good as the P30 Pro but not too far off. Pixel and iPhone take better standard photos in my opinion but the versatility of the wide angle and Zoom makes this much more desirable
Speed - Excellent
Fingerprint sensor - Excellent
Connectivity - Excellent - I live in a poor reception area, this actually betters Huawei for signal retention (i found Huawei always the one to beat). And WiFi calling works even though my carrier (Three UK) doesn't technically support it (the Xperia1 for example didn't work).
Other notable mentions:
Haptic feedback is a good as i've had on Android, not iPhone level however
ColorOS is a little childish the notifications area and whole setup could just do with being a little more toned down

Is this the Reno zoom 10x or the Reno 5g?
Although I'm sure there the same ?.
What's it like compared to the S10e?
I've always noticed Huawei are so much better for cellular signal and Samsung being the worst so that's music to my ears that it's performing well.

vimto25 said:
Is this the Reno zoom 10x or the Reno 5g?
Although I'm sure there the same ?.
What's it like compared to the S10e?
I've always noticed Huawei are so much better for cellular signal and Samsung being the worst so that's music to my ears that it's performing well.
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It's the Reno 10x not the 5G variant.
It's much (much) bigger than the s10e but personally i believe it's snappier (being in the UK i get the Exynos variant Samsungs). the fingerprint sensor on the s10e would just not work reliably for me (i've had the old Sony side mounted fingerprint sensors with no issues). The camera i prefer on the Reno 10x and the battery is way better also i on the Reno.
If you don't mind the size then it's the Reno 10x all the way.

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Samsung Galaxy S20 FE come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
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When compared to the regular S20 I noticed photos are often overexposed, so it loses detail in the white parts of the photo.
I noticed this in every photo comparison review.
I guess it's just a software thing, but Samsung needs to fix this.

Gray44 said:
When compared to the regular S20 I noticed photos are often overexposed, so it loses detail in the white parts of the photo.
I noticed this in every photo comparison review.
I guess it's just a software thing, but Samsung needs to fix this.
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Yeah, that seems to be a Samsung trait. It's really annoying. I'm looking to get a new phone, and Samsung have some great specced phones, but their photo processing steers me away. I gave up n my S10+ because of it, and went back to my pixel 3

Here's another comparison with the pixel 5, almost all photos and videos looks (imho) way better on the pixel 5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqAaofYe9a4
Google builds a cheaper phone with cheaper hardware including lenses and yet, the results are better.
Samsung really needs to step up a notch!

Gray44 said:
Here's another comparison with the pixel 5, almost all photos and videos looks (imho) way better on the pixel 5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqAaofYe9a4
Google builds a cheaper phone with cheaper hardware including lenses and yet, the results are better.
Samsung really needs to step up a notch!
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Really after seeing twice the video, i much prefer the s20 fe...

Random Pictures part1
here I show you some random pictures. I come from the Huawei P30 Pro and I am very satisfied with the camera.

Random Pictures part2
here I show you some random pictures. I come from the Huawei P30 Pro and I am very satisfied with the camera.

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here I show you some random pictures. I come from the Huawei P30 Pro and I am very satisfied with the camera.
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The worse thing that you can do it's to switch from a p30 pro which it's the camera killer to this Samsung that it's having awful photo quality... You didn't show us some comparisons between this 2 devices.. You'll be surprised that p30 pro it's still a flagship killer Also, the zoom on the p30 remains a king(p40 it's out of the discussion because of the lack of google service)

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The worse thing that you can do it's to switch from a p30 pro which it's the camera killer to this Samsung that it's having awful photo quality... You didn't show us some comparisons between this 2 devices.. You'll be surprised that p30 pro it's still a flagship killer Also, the zoom on the p30 remains a king(p40 it's out of the discussion because of the lack of google service)
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i am and have been a huge Huawei P30 Pro fan but i am not sure if your statement is correct...
Sure yes, that P30 Pro is a real killer but the s20 fe is really very good too! The pictures can't really be compared - sometimes the P30 Pro wins and sometimes and yet sometimes more often the S20 fe wins.
but it always depends on your own preferences, i agree with you. i am currently very enthusiastic about the s20 fe.

ive had mine for a bit over a month now and im quite impressed with it

robi10101298 said:
The worse thing that you can do it's to switch from a p30 pro which it's the camera killer to this Samsung that it's having awful photo quality... You didn't show us some comparisons between this 2 devices.. You'll be surprised that p30 pro it's still a flagship killer Also, the zoom on the p30 remains a king(p40 it's out of the discussion because of the lack of google service)
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Well I've got my old P20 Pro here, a 5G S20 FE and a Mi 10T Pro and guess which one still 'subjectively' takes far clearer and defined - if a little overly processed - pictures? Yeah it's the one released in March 2018
According to GSMarena the P30 Pro uses the same main sensor which is pretty abysmal for low light videoing so that is why I have avoided it. Oh and the low light recording is pretty terrible (on par with my P20 Pro) but is absolutely outstanding on the Mi10 Pro (pictures are pretty average though even with that big sensor)

I have taken a few pictures, quality seems OK, maybe change some settings to get the wow factor

The pictures are very nice. I came from a mi9 with a 48mp cam but the 12mp of the Samsung gives at least the same quality and even better because of the ois

That's strange. I came from Mi 9 also and while there is more detail on photos took on S20 there is also more noise and colors are bit strange, unnatural. Colors on Mi 9 are much more realistic.
Also a lot of times I do get grainy photos with a lot of noise on S20 FE.
Pretty bad. I have exynos version.

After 40 days of use,
Coming from a Pixel 3a, im disappointed from the main camera, specially at night.
Exynos version, i get oversaturated yellows and oranges (with the AI enhance off), generally saturation is up giving unnatural colors and at low light:
1) it takes 1,5-4 sec for a photo, so forget any moving objects
2) Phone actually "freezes" while processing the nightshot, instead of doing the post-processing in the background, takes 2-5 sec to finish.
3) The depth of field is not that great.
4) I need to bring down exposure all the time, or my highlights are usually blown.
Tele 3X is just ok, ultrwide, i have seen better distortion correction, both have same saturation thing as above.