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Essential Phone vs Oneplus 5

Hi everyone,
I just wanted to get an idea of what you all though about the essential phone vs the oneplus 5. Why you bought/or thinking of buying one over the other...

LOL, don't waste your time... OnePlus 5!
I have a OnePlus 5 (8/128) and i don't want this ugly Essential Phone

Pho3nX said:
LOL, don't waste your time... OnePlus 5!
I have a OnePlus 5 (8/128) and i don't want this ugly Essential Phone
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The essential is beautiful

If there is a decent amount of development for it, I'll most likely consider getting one

For me, oneplus 5 is the most essential phone so far!

The biggest selling point for me would be custom software development. OnePlus was always well supported. OnePlus 5 had working recoveries and root within a week from its launch.
Essential is pretty new to the game, so let's see what it can do.
Being created by Andy Rubin I assume it should be pretty developer-friendly.

What really makes the Essential phone better than the OnePlus 5? I really don't see anything outside of a bezel-less screen
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Essential has no headphone jack. A pointless device that just blindly follows the latest trends. And the kernel sources aren't released for it yet, that should give you an idea how dev friendly it is.

Caitlin550 said:
That's your opinion really. In a few years OnePlus will make a move to Meizu style, so watch your words. OnePlus 5 and older OnePlus devices are open for vulnerablities.
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Any sources to vulnerablities present in 1+ phones?

Caitlin550 said:
Headphone jack will soon be removed on other phones after 2018 or 2019
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Well I'll just be removed from the list of their potential customers.

Caitlin550 said:
Do your research and then you will find out.
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No way. You are the one who brought it up so it's up to you to defend your position. Both the OnePlus 5 and Essential run Android, and there's nothing about one device being cheaper that means it's more open to vulnerabilities.
If you're referring to the ability for App Locker to be bypassed, that's going to be resolved with a system update, and any device could have had a similar flaw
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Removing the headphone jack is kinda stupid in my opinion. Other than saving space and making it possible for the phone to be even thinner, there's no real benefit to removing it.
What's next to be removed? The charging port and force us to use wireless charging? If the phone has to sit on a stupid pad, it's not truly wireless. Unless I can walk around the house with it, while it's charging, it's not truly "wireless". Wireless means no wires, but it also implies mobility/freedom.

That has nothing to do with the OnePlus being a "cheaper" device. It's part of the compromises made for a very developer-friendly phone. I'm sure if the Essential's bootloader is easily unlocked, people will find some vulnerabilities with it as well.
Samsung and BlackBerry have focused on security for their phones, which often means locked bootloaders and limited access to modding abilities (not that it isn't possible, but once you do, you completely break their security layer (Samsung Knox, for instance).
There is absolutely nothing to suggest Essential has a security barrier like Knox, so your point is pretty much meaningless in a thread comparing OnePlus to Essential.
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I'm on the fence between the OnePlus 5 and the Essential phone, myself.
After owning a long line of Nexus devices, a OnePlus 3, then a Google Pixel XL, I made the switch to the Galaxy S8. Overall, the S8 has actually been great. But it does come with its annoyances, namely Samsung CONSTANTLY trying to push their proprietary apps through random weekly notifications and the Bixby interface. I've disabled a lot of the Samsung bloatware apps but the phone still lags/hangs more often than my OnePlus 3 or Pixel XL ever did, which is just sad. So I'm ready to get back into the more "pure Android" experience.
I was initially planning on holding out until the Pixel 2/Pixel XL 2 were announced but reputable rumors are consistently showing that the regular pixel will just have a 5" screen with huge bezels again and the XL 2 will be a monster of a phone with a 6" screen that matches the size of the S8+ but with even larger bezels. It will be pushing 6.4" tall, which is simply too big for me. So I've decided to look at other options. The reviews of the OnePlus 5 have been excellent and I was extremely close to pulling the trigger on one until news of the Essential phone really started to break recently.
These days I don't really root/mod my phones so that isn't much of a concern. And after experiencing the bezel-less life of the S8, it would be tough for me to go back to something with 2015/2016 size bezels. This is why the Essential phone really has my attention, at the moment. Plus the design of the Essential phone is very original and I love just about everything about it. However, I will admit that at least OnePlus makes good use of the large bottom bezel with the capacitive keys and finger print scanner. Not to mention that it costs over $150 less than the Essential Phone.
Personally, I'm having a really tough time deciding between the two. At least I've ruled out all other options, at this point.

sn0warmy said:
I'm on the fence between the OnePlus 5 and the Essential phone, myself.
After owning a long line of Nexus devices, a OnePlus 3, then a Google Pixel XL, I made the switch to the Galaxy S8. Overall, the S8 has actually been great. But it does come with its annoyances, namely Samsung CONSTANTLY trying to push their proprietary apps through random weekly notifications and the Bixby interface. I've disabled a lot of the Samsung bloatware apps but the phone still lags/hangs more often than my OnePlus 3 or Pixel XL ever did, which is just sad. So I'm ready to get back into the more "pure Android" experience.
I was initially planning on holding out until the Pixel 2/Pixel XL 2 were announced but reputable rumors are consistently showing that the regular pixel will just have a 5" screen with huge bezels again and the XL 2 will be a monster of a phone with a 6" screen that matches the size of the S8+ but with even larger bezels. It will be pushing 6.4" tall, which is simply to big for me. So I've decided to look at other options. The reviews of the OnePlus 5 have been excellent and I was extremely close to pulling the trigger on one until news of the Essential phone really started to break recently.
These days I don't really root/mod my phones so that isn't much of a concern. And after experiencing the bezel-less life of the S8, it would be tough for me to go back to something with 2015/2016 size bezels. This is why the Essential phone really has my attention, at the moment. However, I will admit that at least OnePlus makes good use of the large bottom bezel with the capacitive keys and finger print scanner. Not to mention that it costs over $150 less than the Essential Phone.
Personally, I'm having a really tough time deciding between the two. At east I've ruled out all other options, at this point.
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The 8ngig of ram is nice. I have oneplus 5 8 gig ram version. I am looking g at the essential phone BC it looks so great.

GCbard said:
The 8ngig of ram is nice. I have oneplus 5 8 gig ram version. I am looking g at the essential phone BC it looks so great.
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While I'm not usually one to harp solely on specs, the Essential phone coming out with just 4GB of RAM is a head scratcher. Apps and OS features are taking up more and more resources these days and we are hitting a point where 4GB RAM just isn't cutting it anymore. Which is why I'm also surprised that the 2nd generation of Pixel phones are rumored to only have 4GB of RAM, as well.
I should say that the use of an LCD display on the Essential Phone is a bit baffling, also. It's 2017, OLED screens are the new standard. I'd understand if they stuck with LCD to cut costs and make the phone cheaper. But it still starts at $700, so that logic doesn't seem to hold. And to top off the negatives on the Essential Phone, all the current video reviews are very "meh" about the camera performance. All of this has me realizing that I'd only be getting the Essential Phone for the bezel-less design. Hm....

sn0warmy said:
While I'm not usually one to harp solely on specs, the Essential phone coming out with just 4GB of RAM is a head scratcher. Apps and OS features are taking up more and more resources these days and we are hitting a point where 4GB RAM just isn't cutting it anymore. Which is why I'm also surprised that the 2nd generation of Pixel phones are rumored to only have 4GB of RAM, as well.
I should say that the use of an LCD display on the Essential Phone is a bit baffling, also. It's 2017, OLED screens are the new standard. I'd understand if they stuck with LCD to cut costs and make the phone cheaper. But it still starts at $700, so that logic doesn't seem to hold. And to top off the negatives on the Essential Phone, all the current video reviews are very "meh" about the camera performance. All of this has me realizing that I'd only be getting the Essential Phone for the bezel-less design. Hm....
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I would honestly wait until the Essential is released for general public. Those "reviews" are more like previews at the moment. So, if you're not in a hurry, wait a lil bit longer.
I heard the new Nokia 8 also runs stock android and it starts at 600€ so it may also be an option.
I am honestly satisfied with the OnePlus 5. But this is very subjective since I'm coming from a Galaxy S4 and the OnePlus 5 is a huge update.

Difference is $460 phone vs $700 phone. End of discussion.

Too many gimmicks on that device. Its a 300 dollar phone at a 900 dollar price tag. I dont see the point in accepting this newcomer. Gotta figure Rubin "left" for a reason. I doubt this thing will catch on. If Huawei cant in the us i doubt this thing can worldwide

If Essential provide sources and keep it quick it could be the phone to go for regardless of the price, After owning a OP3 for a year the software and sources have been hit and miss.. closest we'll get to a Nexus atm but Essential could be the new nexus since they provide the same support as Google on the software side, OP however it could be abandoned any time.. Let's hope Essential hit it right

[DISCUSSION][POLL] Will you upgrade?

We all know that the OnePlus 6 releases in a day or so, with that big countdown meter on the top of our forum. The question is will you upgrade? Our device is now two years and 6 months old, so usually the time is ripe for an upgrade, but there are special cases. Will you be doing the upgrade or not?
When stating your answer, please say why you're doing so.

No need to upgrade unless your phone is physically damaged to the point it affects your usage. The 3t can last probably till 2020. The Snapdragon 821 got a lot of horsepower for many years ahead

I am still waiting for fingerprint scanner under the touchscreen. Maybe could be happen with 6T or onsplus 7..

i ain't got no money
moreover the device hasn't really slowed down alot yet

I dont have enough money to upgrade an oneplus phone. Moreover, there are exchange offers at online stores, but this device is already the best. And the huge amount of developer supports it has right now, there is really no dire need for upgrade.

switched to oneplus from a xiaomi mi note 5 pro, even tho it was a newer device but i love my op3t more than rn5pro

no reason to upgrade for that ugly NOTCH

Mine is still running fine, will wait till 5G devices start showing up in 2019
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No.....................
No way.............................
Our 3T is the best.

3t is still a beast in performance.
I have no money overall (just bought new car).
And well...it would depend on how good camera and battery will be. If the 6 is not even near s9+, well....
Only issues with 3t is battery, even after hard reset (2) Oreo drains a lot and a lot and a lot.....
Maybe when I will have time, twrp and a custom kernel.
Tapatalked with my OnePlus 3T

I will upgrade in a year to the Pixel 3. The 3T had a much better price than the pixel 1, but I think the Oneplus 6(T) will not be much cheaper with my
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kamilmirza said:
no reason to upgrade for that ugly NOTCH
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Yeah, that notch is so weird. Every manufacturer jumping on that bandwagon, purely just because Apple did it, on a phone that isn't even selling that well.

redpoint73 said:
Yeah, that notch is so weird. Every manufacturer jumping on that bandwagon, purely just because Apple did it, on a phone that isn't even selling that well.
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To be fair, the notch on the OP6 at least is way smaller than the iphones. Weird still, but I think it looks much better than apples design.

My plan is to keep my OnePlus 3T for 4 years or as long as it lasts - whichever comes first.
I don't like notches (it's a visual distraction, though I think the way OnePlus and Huawei hide it is fine.
I also want a front-facing fingerprint reader, and under the glass would be good.
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Not liking the recent 5T or 6 designs. They are too much high end flagship. If I were to design something, it would have a traditional FLAT AMOLED screen (1080*1920 is fine) so that screen protectors are cheap and easy, a 4200 mAh battery, front facing fingerprint reader, a chassis that is rubberized so it needs no case and has a lip to protect the screen, decent cameras with OIS but nothing super fancy needed but documented for Devs, Snappy 835 is fine (enabled for ok Google while plugged in/screen off), headphone jack, micro SD card, configurable alert slider (more configurable than 3t), highly customizeable multicolor LED and vibration (full light flow support), one global model with support for all bands everywhere, fully unlockable/Dev friendly, and a $425 price tag.
Oh, for that price 8GB RAM and 128GB storage.
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I will wait for oneplus 10
ha ha ha ha ha......

My 3T is still a beast, although it hitches sometimes. Just gonna put a new battery in and keep it moving

The 3T has been the most surprising phone I've owned.
It's very well built, it's quick and reliable and the feeling of being appreciated enough to receive timely updates is wonderful.
I bought the 5T on a whim....and while it is an excellent phone, the 3T still feels ahead of it's time somehow.
OnePlus have won me over. I went from Samsung to Huawei - but my next phone will be the OnePlus 6T.
The constant updates are reassuring and the Oxygen OS is wonderful. Build quality also, is always tighter than most.

But let's get away from fragile glass backs and return to a more durable casing. I don't want to have to baby my phone.
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redpoint73 said:
Yeah, that notch is so weird. Every manufacturer jumping on that bandwagon, purely just because Apple did it, on a phone that isn't even selling that well.
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BTW, Notch was introduced by Essential Phone... which had even smaller notch that the iPX
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Frankenscript said:
Not liking the recent 5T or 6 designs. They are too much high end flagship. If I were to design something, it would have a traditional FLAT AMOLED screen (1080*1920 is fine) so that screen protectors are cheap and easy, a 4200 mAh battery, front facing fingerprint reader, a chassis that is rubberized so it needs no case and has a lip to protect the screen, decent cameras with OIS but nothing super fancy needed but documented for Devs, Snappy 835 is fine (enabled for ok Google while plugged in/screen off), headphone jack, micro SD card, configurable alert slider (more configurable than 3t), highly customizeable multicolor LED and vibration (full light flow support), one global model with support for all bands everywhere, fully unlockable/Dev friendly, and a $425 price tag.
Oh, for that price 8GB RAM and 128GB storage.
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Really dude? All that for just $425? It ain't possible in my opinion :/
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Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Google Pixel 3 XL, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Google Pixel 3 XL is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Well it is a Google Pixel so of course there is gonna be some love ?
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I've owned the Nexus 4 and the Nexus 6P, both of which were great devices. What's so special about the 3XL? There's nothing in it that isn't found in phones that are way cheaper. For those of you shouting about vanilla android, there is no vanilla android any more. Even Google now includes features that aren't found in any other version of android. But the thing that annoys me the most about pixel phones is Google's price policy. Why oh why are these phones 30% more expensive in Europe?

i just watched unbox therapy's video of the pixel 3 xl. to be honest i like it. yes the notch is bigger than others but it doesnt seem to bother me. maybe i'm too used to it from my iphone x. i wish the area on the sides of the notch would hold more information, but that is where xda comes in. i'm sure some developers can put more info there with their roms. the camera looks amazing. the screen quality finally looks up to par with samsung even though it's still an LG screen. you can tell they have matured their oled screens fast. the build quality looks really good. that soft gorilla glass on the back that doesnt attract finger prints looks like a nice touch. i'm going to objectively give this device a try instead of blindly following the masses of haters. but based of the videos i've watched already i think this device will end up being a great one.

Why do people keep asking why we pay more for phones in Europe? In Europe we pay VAT which adds about 20% to the cost of just about everything. It may not account for all the price difference but it accounts for the majority of it.

Overall Phones are good with price range. Nothing to hate about it. Phone has lot more than other phones with that price range. I had good experience with Pixel 2 XL. Phones are worthy to buy.
People hate about notch trend but I say its only way to cover screen on front. About some trends you will used to it. its not making problem in functionality.
I have Pixel 2 XL why I should by Pixel 3 XL ?
Plus about this phones is Snapdragon 845 , Titan M security module and Wireless Charging in Hardware. + ( Notch some people not like it )
about notch google will provide option to disable notch like one plus 6.
Pixel Cameras are always awesome then others with that price.
I believe Pixel users are 95% genuine users who uses almost every feature that company provide.
Not like iPhone users wasting lots of parent's money to show off just a logo.
Apple call their eco system it is like handcuffs to buy their won stuff and 30% features not work if you don't have other apple products.
[ Pixels = You will get maximum benefit of Artificial Intelligence. This is what I mean. ]

Got my 3 XL yesterday. I'm coming from a 2 XL so I expected a slight upgrade, but I'm finding a lot of things I love that I didn't expect.
- Tap to wake is WAY faster than on the 2. Having both side by side, the 3 wakes up a full second before the 2.
- The screen on the 3 looks sooo good. Crisper even. I never had any complaints about my 2 XL's screen, but I can tell the 3 XL is definitely better
- Speakers are noticeably better. Not sure about how loud they get, but the sound is richer on the 3 than the 2. The 2 is tinnier.
- Wide Angle Selfie camera is pretty cool
- Low light photos are noticeably better. This I didn't expect to notice as much, but a side by side comparison of the same photo with the two phones shows a noticeable improvement. The 2's photo looks duller than the 3. They might look the same after some post processing, but the 3's photo looks great without any touchups.
- Not phone related, but the Google Fabric case covers more of the bottom of the phone than the 2's did.
The only thing I have NOT liked is that with the notch, the number of notification icons in the status bar has been reduced to three, meaning 2 and a dot if you have more. If I reduce the display size to the lowest one, I can get three and a dot. The 2 XL has 4 and a dot. Hopefully we can figure out a way to turn off the clock. I never use it and I'd gladly give it up in exchange for more icons.

After I got the phone I realize it is so much better than expected. And the software polish and hard ware polish is next level

Very nice but some complaints
Just got my Pixel 3 XL last night and was impressed with the look and feel. I'm coming from the original Pixel XL. No notch complaints here. I was happy with everything until I got in my car. I have a Jeep JL with Android Auto. I was expecting the two to come together as expected but nothing happened. Spent time changing usb cables. I see power on the Pixel but no love from Android Auto. I'm hoping I just need to go to the dealership for a firmware upgrade or something but its disappointing that it just didn't work.
The only other thing I don't like is the double swipe up to get to the app drawer. Not sure how I feel about it.
With that said my complaints are minor. SOOOO many cool features that like.

mikeofny said:
Just got my Pixel 3 XL last night and was impressed with the look and feel. I'm coming from the original Pixel XL. No notch complaints here. I was happy with everything until I got in my car. I have a Jeep JL with Android Auto. I was expecting the two to come together as expected but nothing happened. Spent time changing usb cables. I see power on the Pixel but no love from Android Auto. I'm hoping I just need to go to the dealership for a firmware upgrade or something but its disappointing that it just didn't work.
The only other thing I don't like is the double swipe up to get to the app drawer. Not sure how I feel about it.
With that said my complaints are minor. SOOOO many cool features that like.
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My 2017 CRV also had trouble the first time I tried to use Android Auto. No map showed up, it gave me an ETA and the first turn arrow, but the only thing that updated was the ETA which was WAY off. When I got to my destination, I restarted the phone and the car, and on my way home, it worked as it normally does.

Happy out here. Got my 3xl 128gb on Verizon pre paid yesterday. Using on SIM in Ireland. Love pretty much everything about the phone. Kinda wish it had face unlocking but otherwise very happy. Everything just works and no bloat.

OK, so this may be biased, but I'm 100% in love with this phone. This is my first pixel phone, and I'm coming from a mid/budget phone, so that may make all the difference, but from the looks, the feels, the screen, the new gestures, the smoothness, the speakers, the call quality, the battery life, to whatever else this phone is, and can do, I love it. I've never had such a great experience from day one on any other phone, and I've been on Android since I got a Nexus One on day one. To me this phone is perfect. There is not one thing I can think of to complain about (OK I do have one. Have the phone either a bit thicker, or find another way to make the camera bump on the back flush).

Coming from a Oneplus 3T here. I am going through an RMA right now for the speaker issue, just to put that out there. With that aside, I love the phone otherwise. My only concern going in was the battery to be honest. The battery was larger than my 3T but still smaller than last year. It is a great phone. A great improvement over my 3T, which was still one of the best phones I've had.

Love the phone. Totally seamless Google experience

Overall impression so far.
Got the phone on Friday, October 19, 2018.
1. Good build quality (better than 2 XL); feels rigid & premium in hand. The frosted glass back is really smooth & good to touch. Better that my ex's skin.
2. Battery life is pretty good too. Same or better than 2 XL. First cycle (WiFi only): from 96%; SOT: 5 hr 10 min in 1 day 10 hrs with 16% to go. It will ofc get better with more cycles & as it learns more. Also, the battery is smaller than that of 2 XL & powers a bigger & better screen & louder speakers.
3. Cameras. Need not say anything.
4. Screen: it is a Samsung panel on the 3 XL, performs like one. Really good. No black clipping for me except maybe on mobile data when speeds are low. That is more like a buffering and pixel issue but no black clipping. Could happen on any phone.
5. I really like the included USB-C Pixel buds; took me 10 minutes to get the right fit & learn to use them (fit them); follow the animations in the first time setup. They are really good. Good bass too.
6. Charging time using charger included in box: from 16% to 100%: around 1 hour 40 minutes. WiFi on. AOD on.
7. Notch: got used to it already & not noticeable anymore. I don't play games on the phone at all.
8. The speakers: a minor issue of imbalanced audio(bottom grill is louder) but no buzzing for me & no muffled sound either. Fixable via software update.
9. RAM management: it is bad rn; fixable by software update as the cause has already looks to be the kernel `lowmemoryKiller` as per some sources when you google.
I see 0 hardware based issues with the phone (apart from notch which is bad design & not an issue for me at least). Other issues will be addressed via an update. I see better performance in the future already. Even the pixel 2 xl got better with updates (at least for me).
Buying the Pixel stand soon.
TL;DR: Love it. Keeping it.

Like the phone...my only issues are with the display brightness and sometimes ram management. My conspiracy is that google dimmed the screen in order to avoid a crappy battery. 100% on this is like 65% on my iphone. Other than that, I love the speakers! Not sure if it's worth the $900

Love it but highly intrigued by the 6T coming next week

I remember when in the Nexus days, everyone said that all vanilla Android needed was a great camera and it'd be perfect. Google listened and produced pixel line with best camera, 3 generations in a row now. Now all anyone can do is nitpick the hardware. I think Google has achieved what most enthusiasts were after.

overall i like it, price should drop $300+ - Pixel 3 XL crosshatch 128 black G013C
What: Google Pixel 3 XL crosshatch 128 black G013C
good/great:
camera
camera software
free storage of pictures and video
nice to have included earbuds
screen is decent and not overwarm like apple's off white warm screen tones. proper whitebalance, maybe slightly blue, but a very good screen.
fast - fast booting, fast behavior
not so good / annoying:
4 gb ram @ $1000 price point?
128 vs 256/512 ssd at $1000 price point?
no sd card slot - give it a rest google.
included earbuds done noise cancel. why in the world would they do that?
i cant see where 300-400 dollars went for a phone that costs $1000 + $129 in preferred care
insultingly overpriced wireless earbuds
insultingly overpriced wireless dock
insultingly overpriced accessories in general by screwgle.
drm on Qi / fake Qi charging - 10 watts in the drm mode isnt even enough let alone be enough in the drm-allowed mode. 5W is just pathetic.
included wired charger isnt as good as previous pixel chargers. should include the big dual port charger from the pixel c
ifixit score is terrible (4 of 10). right to repair legislation is going to be needed - an industry wide problem - sad to see in a $1000 phone
audio jack missing - why do this?
faceunlock - i do have an iphone X from work (they gave it for free) - i do enjoy that feature.
bad:
- notch is just stupid. its stupid on the X, XS and on 3XL. stop the god damned notches. i just shut the notch off in developer options so its just a waste of pixels but its just poor design.
- pie having that idiotic gesture system and its forced (no developer or hidden option to go back). just copy the iphone's gesture system and be done with this moronic one
overall im happy because $1000 for me isnt breaking the bank but there are plenty of people where $1000 is a bit on the high side and this phone just doesnt deliver that value. its a nice phone and im happy with it - best android has to offer and camera is the most important feature - but google is a jerk, sundar pichai is a greedy jerk and a bad CEO. when i think of sundar pichai i think of a jerk who is also a spineless milquetoast. when i think of Steve Jobs i think of a jerk who was obsessed with aesthetics, beauty, ease of use, wanting to be best of breed, form and function, etc. google needs a better CEO. sundar pichai is a greedy jerk who needs to work at this harder than he does or let someone good take his place

mikeofny said:
Just got my Pixel 3 XL last night and was impressed with the look and feel. I'm coming from the original Pixel XL. No notch complaints here. I was happy with everything until I got in my car. I have a Jeep JL with Android Auto. I was expecting the two to come together as expected but nothing happened. Spent time changing usb cables. I see power on the Pixel but no love from Android Auto. I'm hoping I just need to go to the dealership for a firmware upgrade or something but its disappointing that it just didn't work.
The only other thing I don't like is the double swipe up to get to the app drawer. Not sure how I feel about it.
With that said my complaints are minor. SOOOO many cool features that like.
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Hey Im coming from the OG pixel xl as well. I currently have the 6t but don't actually find it much of an upgrade from my pixel. Ive got 15 days to return it so Im looking to buy the 3xl instead. Would you say that the upgrade from the OG xl to the 3xl is worth it?? Thanks!

Overall love

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it's what mi9 should have been, in everything except the CPU. It's too bad they used 710 instead of 712 due to the mi9 se. However, the cc9 is still probably the most "well rounded" package from the entire xiaomi line. High quality, great design, great cameras front and back, large battery, light weight, OLED, etc. Just love it. It's something I wanted out of a Mi9 but was let down with that battery. wish there's going to be more community support though, which looks a bit thin right now.

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it's what mi9 should have been, in everything except the CPU. It's too bad they used 710 instead of 712 due to the mi9 se. However, the cc9 is still probably the most "well rounded" package from the entire xiaomi line. High quality, great design, great cameras front and back, large battery, light weight, OLED, etc. Just love it. It's something I wanted out of a Mi9 but was let down with that battery. wish there's going to be more community support though, which looks a bit thin right now.
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Absolutely, completely ditto. The only thing holding this phone back is the lacking developer community behind it. Even so, the only thing that's keeping me from using the excellent Android 10 GSI linked in the guides is the lackluster camera performances. Honestly, that wouldn't have been a problem if I still had my Whyred since that phone's camera was "meh" at best, but not enjoying this camera to the fullest feels like a sin!

I'm liking mine a lot, screen is nice, as is the fingerprint scanner. Photos are fine, now that I've removed the watermark. Seriously, who WANTS to brand their photos with a manufacturer's watermark?
I can even cope with the notch, which did concern me. The IR blaster is a nice thing, but would be a lot better if it had an Xbox media remote profile added.
I've ones minor irritation. And it's really bothering me. There's a chime that sounds every now and then that I can't switch off. It's a descending sequence of beeps, like when a usb stick is unplugged.
No visual notification, but it can happen in quick succession, and even happens when watching something on Netflix over bluetooth headphones.
It usually comes when the screen is switched on.
Any ideas? Is there a system log file for audio?
Sorted it! It was the NFC talking to my debit cards. NFC off, and annoying MIUI chime noise gone.
Now to figure out Google pay.

That's odd. No equaliser when using Bluetooth ear buds.
Any workarounds? I could do with a bit more bass on the t-elf buds.
Or, do I need to get into ROMs? Haven't flashed a phone in years!

Wildefalcon said:
I can even cope with the notch, which did concern me.
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What is ”the notch”? Do you have protective glass? I'm worried that fingerprint scanner won't work well over protective glass... How's MIUI 11? Does Revolut work on this phone?
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iuliusdeblobbis said:
Absolutely, completely ditto. The only thing holding this phone back is the lacking developer community behind it.
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I was considering Redmi Note 8 Pro but gave up that because MTK processor, no drivers which means very small developing community. That's why I choose Mi 9 Lite and now you say that there will not much developing for this phone...

axlina said:
What is ”the notch”? Do you have protective glass? I'm worried that fingerprint scanner won't work well over protective glass... How's MIUI 11? Does Revolut work on this phone?
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I was considering Redmi Note 8 Pro but gave up that because MTK processor, no drivers which means very small developing community. That's why I choose Mi 9 Lite and now you say that there will not much developing for this phone...
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I'm not saying that there won't be a development community to back this phone. I'm saying that right now this phone doesn't have the support that other Xiaomi devices, like the RN5 or RN7, have.
I'm sure that, as time goes on, the community will get up to speed. In the mean time, @gringo80 has been mantaining a functional and frequently updated build of LineageOS, and even if that isn't your ROM of choice most GSIs works very well.

The notch is the "cut out" for the front facing camera.
I've a glass screen protector on the front, and the fingerprint scanner still works, but I think that is not as good as it was without the protector. I'm not taking it off, mind, as my phones have a hard life.

Wildefalcon said:
The notch is the "cut out" for the front facing camera.
I've a glass screen protector on the front, and the fingerprint scanner still works, but I think that is not as good as it was without the protector. I'm not taking it off, mind, as my phones have a hard life.
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Seems that screen protector is slowing response of scanner a little. However when I had added fingerprints again with protector in place seems fine again. Maybe split-second difference
Sent from my Mi 9 Lite using Tapatalk

I FREAKING LOVE THIS PHONE! period! There is nothing out there for around 200 bucks which can compete!

Battery drain, some bug on MIUI 11

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Battery drain, some bug on MIUI 11
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Im on MIUI 11 currently and i have no problem getting 3 days uptime and 10h SOT, dont think it's too bad for 4000mAh battery.

The phone arrives today.
I was googleing, trying to find way to root phone without unlocking bootloader. can anyone pplease help, post a link to a thread or anything. I will unlock bootloader but getting approved is a process and i want to root in right out of the box.
If rooted and with unlocked bootloader, can anyone confirm that Revolut works or doesn't work?
Wish you all the best in a New Year.

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Im on MIUI 11 currently and i have no problem getting 3 days uptime and 10h SOT, dont think it's too bad for 4000mAh battery.
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Good for you. I'm really disappointed about the battery life.

Hi all,
Coming from Samsung S and Note lines, I decided to move because the flagships are now so expensive.
So I looked for a similar device. My main points were :
- Affordable
- Gorilla glass 5 at least
- Amoled
- Metal frame
- Non mediatek chipset
- Good battery life
- Recent
I had not a large choice according to the availability in the country (Madagascar). Official resellers prices are too high so I had to manage with some unofficial business which have not so much stocks.
A lot of Xiaomi available but not enough for me : mediatek chipset, gorilla 3 one side, plastic frame and back... Until I saw a Mi 9 Lite ad, and after having check the specs, that was what I looked for, matching my needs.
So here I am... Bought the 02/06/2020
Good packaging, but it misses headset.
I loooove it so much

Welcome to Xiaomi family!

I bought a Mi 9 Lite earlier this month when my veteran Oneplus X finally vibrated itself off the kitchen counter and its mortal coil after enduring ~4 years of abuse. As someone who doesn't care about all the bells and whistles and just wants a solid phone that won't break the bank, here is my mini review:
1) Design and build quality: Top notch. If I was handed this phone without any prior knowledge and told it costs 700€, I wouldn't question it for a second. Every single other phone I've found in this price range has an ugly chin bezel and plastic frame/back. The phone industry had pretty much abandoned plastic in favor of more premium materials on all but the cheapest phones, but for some reason plastic became acceptable again early last year. Glad to see Xiaomi sticking to aluminium and glass on its midrangers.
2) The screen is just stunning. It's sharp, color accurate and immersive with relatively tiny bezels. I'd pretty much sworn off LCDs after my first AMOLED phone, and I'm glad I didn't compromise this time either. The advantages are too great compared to the shortcomings of the technology.
3) The hardware: 6GB RAM is pretty hard to find on most midrange phones, let alone those that cost less than 250€. I'm not into mobile gaming so I've never really pushed the CPU and GPU to its limits, but for day to day use the Snapdragon 710 is absolutely powerful enough. Everything from web browsing to scrolling through social media or watching videos feels snappy and stutter-free. The battery is massive and I can easily go 2 days without recharging, and when I do need to recharge the battery fills up pretty fast.
4) The camera. I'm not really a shutterbug, so the camera specs aren't a top priority for me when shopping for a smartphone, but the photos seem sharp enough and color representation is fine. Video stabilization leaves a bit to be desired, however.
5) Last but certainly not least, the software. I can't really say I'm a fan of MIUI. Maybe I'm too accustomed to lighter ROMs like Oxygen OS and Lineage OS, but the MIUI interface just feels like it's trying too hard to be IOS. Thankfully the launcher recieved an update recently that brings back the familiar app drawer. Some of the bloatware can be uninstalled, while most of it can't. Also, the ads. Pretty much every preinstalled app serves you ads (fullscreen and banner). I get that ads are fundamental to Xiaomi's business model, and I appreciate that they can be (somewhat) completely removed, but I cringe when I think of all the less tech savvy people using their Xiaomi phones and getting bombarded with ads every time they want to listen to music or watch a video.
All in all, this is a from me. The Mi 9 Lite isn't perfect, but it's better than any other phone at this price point. The only thing holding it slightly back for me is the software, but that's subjective so not something I'm going to knock a star off over. Besides, there's always custom ROMs ?.

If your 6T died today, what new phone would you buy?

Hi folks,
I'm still rocking my stock 6T (Global version) on AT&T. The battery is starting to show its age I think, but other than that it has been perfect. It's in great shape and I'm not planning to change it out any time soon. 2.5 years is already the longest I've ever used a phone.
But, with lots of bad reviews on the newest OnePlus offerings, and the continually steeper prices they are charging, I'm wondering what I would do if something happened to my 6T.
I bought it because of:
Price/Performace ratio
Not tethered to a carrier and minimal crapware
Unlockable/rootable (though, I never did either on this phone)
OnePlus good history of support on prior devices (I also have a 3T, now used as a wifi mini tablet)
So, What would you folks buy if you had to get a new phone today?

May jump to a Pixel. Tried to cop a 8T, but ended up with a incompatible version of it. Even then, By OOS changing soon I want to get even more freedom. It's sad I see a lot of people going to Samsung, which I ain't knocking, But they were the reason why I switched to OnePlus..

Would love to see more responses to this post.
I will be buying a new phone next year and have been asking myself this question.
Ability to root and install custom ROMs means more to me than camera, fingerprint, wireless charging, whatever.
Although a decent camera and waterproofing would be a nice bonus.
If I could I'd go back and get a headphone jack and IR blaster as well. I miss my old HTCs.

"Although a decent camera and waterproofing would be a nice bonus."
For this options iphone is good option

I had a 6T, scratched the screen somehow, got a 7T. Loved it, but switched to a Samsung A71. (easier to get the new stuff to work on my galaxy 3 smart watch than doing a bunch of hacking/loading stuff). Great screen, good battery life. For a midrange, 300 bucks was hard to pass up.

Thanks for all the responses. It seems there's no obvious go-to for us.
Here's what I'd like, coming from the 6T:
Processor: next step up from whatever 6T had when it came up 3 years ago, but I don't need the latest-greatest
Memory: I have a 256GB storage version, with 8GB RAM. This was fine then, and is fine now.
Screen: whatever the 6T has is fine. The tiny notch never bothered me.
Connectivity: Really want 5G support! I don't cycle through phones quickly anymore so want to future proof
Required beyond doubt: in-screen fingerprint reader. Love this! 6T was the first to have it.
Cameras: I'm not a big camera guy but would like a zoom camera on the back (fixed optical zoom camera, or ability to optically zoom). Doesn't have to be best in class, but should be evolved from 6T
Now here's where I get a bit crazy: every phone I buy, I put in a case (I'm using the 6T OnePlus "graphite" case I think). What I'd RATHER have is no need for a case, but a ruggedized phone (waterproof of course) that doesn't need a case. By removing need for a case, the phone dimensions could be the same as the 6T+case. It would give room for a BETTER BATTERY. I'd like the battery to be in the 4500mAh+ plus range.
For god's sakes I wish they would bring back the multicolor LED (I used LightFlow with them in prior phones), but a good implementation of the always-on screen is fine too. But make it highly configurable and energy-sipping.
Software:
Plain vanilla Android. No bloatware. No carrier apps, but compatible with carrier apps for visual voicemail etc. Compatible with wifi calling, VoLTE etc.
Unlockable and rootable. I didn't do either to my 6T but want to know I could.
Price: I'm not looking for a flagship killer. <$600 US.

Better wait for pixel 6 launch and decide based on it, but Samsung i never recommend, if you don't have options then you can purchase mainly because of Exynos processor, grrrrr.....
I hate to say it but ios supports theming that will something mind blowing, thay have powerful hardware but software sucks too many restrictions, i believe i am living under dictatorship when i am using it

kmr168401 said:
Better wait for pixel 6 launch and decide based on it, but Samsung i never recommend, if you don't have options then you can purchase mainly because of Exynos processor, grrrrr.....
I hate to say it but ios supports theming that will something mind blowing, thay have powerful hardware but software sucks too many restrictions, i believe i am living under dictatorship when i am using it
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Thanks. I'm in no hurry to replace my 6T, but since it's getting up there in age, I have started musing about where to jump if necessary.
An iOS device is out of the question. I have one, for work, and it works fine, but I hate it. Hate it hate it hate it. I'm not saying iPhones are bad; my wife and kids have them and they work great for them. Just, I can't stand using them for more than the basics.
Pixel 6 looks interesting; I quail at the likely high-end price. We will see. I wish there were more options in the "next tier down from flagship" phones out there like OnePlus used to be in the 3T-6T era. No more...

Flagship, sorry it's myth nowadays, why because can you tell any good processor available in market, once upon a time we had kirin from Huawei, but now there's no direct competitor for Qualcomm, so whatever garbage they produce and claiming it the best we need to accept that , look into the 888 series, they are garbage but we don't have any options, we need to accept it and invest in that, i am thinking of using my op6t for another two years, then move to sparkling trending iglore .
Sorry i forgot to add when ever we start 4k video recording in op9pro it's getting overheat so flagship killer mya**, and overpriced because of hasselblad camera, actually they didn't manufactured or designed, and who knows what is the collaboration is, but put the name and sell it for more than thousand dollars, fantastic. I have so many good words to express but this is not the place, so i keep quiet. You know something i brought realme 6 pro for my mother, its camera is fantastic compare to my op6t, it's cost me 250$, this is my last op6t

Only opion Realme GT. Budget and looks good under the hood.

I'll go for pixel.

I'm pretty sure I'll go rogue and bite the Apple.