So, I see previous thread have been blocked. This IS about a stolen phone, but not about stealing a phone....
My son had an S10+ stolen, and the insurance are not paying up.
He believes he has identified the phone on sale... saying it is unlocked and operational.
Assuming the phone provider DID block the original IMEI...
Questions:
Is it even possible to change the IMEI?
If it has been changed, and labels removed, can the phone be identified subsequently?
Can the 'new' IMEI be traced (i.e. is it a GUID, or is there a list of valid IMEI codes somewhere?)?
Is there a 'block' of IMEI assigned to Samsung? - i.e. if it now has a random one, can a random one be identified as fraudulent?
If it's a clone IMEI, can you go from IMEI to original phone model?
Grateful for any advice,
Simon
Hi mate
Tough situation....
To your questions:
Is it even possible to change the IMEI?
Yes , there are ways to do it but you need special equipment
If it has been changed, and labels removed, can the phone be identified subsequently?
Depends on how good this people are, that information is in the efs partition you need equipment and somebody who knows how to check it
Can the 'new' IMEI be traced (i.e. is it a GUID, or is there a list of valid IMEI codes somewhere?)?
Yes , there are pages like this (there are others), place the imei of the suspected phone there , usually you will get back information as if is blacklisted or to what phone model has been assigned to , usually when the imei is replaced this people uses imei´s from old phones
Is there a 'block' of IMEI assigned to Samsung? - i.e. if it now has a random one, can a random one be identified as fraudulent?
See above reply
If it's a clone IMEI, can you go from IMEI to original phone model?
Not sure what you mean but I think the above reply should answer your question. Each Imei is unique and is assigned to a particular phone , if you check an IMei it will tell that belongs to a Samsung S10 for example
If you have the IMEI of the suspected phone it will be easy to find out if it has been tamper with it, to find out the original IMEI may be another matter
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With the page I gave you if you introduce your son´s phone imei it will give you the Samsung serial number of the phone, that may be something that they may have not changed, if you can get your hands on the suspected phone check Settings /about phone there it will show you the Samsung serial number.......
btsimonh said:
So, I see previous thread have been blocked. This IS about a stolen phone, but not about stealing a phone....
My son had an S10+ stolen, and the insurance are not paying up.
He believes he has identified the phone on sale... saying it is unlocked and operational.
Assuming the phone provider DID block the original IMEI...
Questions:
Is it even possible to change the IMEI?
If it has been changed, and labels removed, can the phone be identified subsequently?
Can the 'new' IMEI be traced (i.e. is it a GUID, or is there a list of valid IMEI codes somewhere?)?
Is there a 'block' of IMEI assigned to Samsung? - i.e. if it now has a random one, can a random one be identified as fraudulent?
If it's a clone IMEI, can you go from IMEI to original phone model?
Grateful for any advice,
Simon
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Hi, the imei and serial number is printed on the back of the device at the bottom.
Your welcome
Sounds very fishy. You can call carrier and report it stolen. Yes, if you claim u purchased the phone, u should have the original box with the imei printed on it
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Hi all
I was wondering if anyone knew the answer to the above question.
to explain a bit better:
If i change the IMEI on my XDA it will obviously show up on the phone. What i want to know is will the network see the new of old IMEI. Ie whis is sent out by the phone.
Also:
From that i have found out the new service which blocks off stolen phones work that runs in the UK work by the IMEI code of the phone.
How do i make sure i don't change my IMEI to a number that is registered as stolen and in turn block my phone off.
Also again:
If at a later stage my phone does get blocked will changing it back to the original IMEI unblock it?
After all this i'm wondering if i should bother changing the IMEI. Although it would be nice to have my DOB there.
Oops I think I posted this in the rwong place!!
To Adminstrators:
Sorry
If it is in the wrong place could you move it?
The IMEI is stored in two places: one is displayed, the other is used to send to the network. The Manipulator changes both locations. The chance you'll change your IMEI to one of a stolen phone is small, very small. (It's six digits if you exclude the manufacturer part, so the chance is definitely bigger than getting hit by a meteorite, but still)
We included the IMEI change bit because:
a) We could
b) Privacy concerns: we'd like to live in a world where people can have multiple identities that are hard to connect, even if their opponents happen to run the country / telco.
WOW!!
Thanks for the great answer. As soon as it is possible to change my imei and unblock my phone i'll be doing it. (I have version 4.20 so it don't work yet).
Does anyone know of a web site where it list all the imei that are recognised as stolen or a number i can call in the UK to find out. The local police are useless and don't know anything.
A number to report a stolen phone would be useful as well cos my little sis got her knicked.
Hello Everyone
I was just wondering if it was possible to work with the IMEI number for an MDA Compact ?
Work with it in what way? You can add up all the numbers in the IMEI number, and if it adds up to more than 50 you will have good luck for the rest of the week. Lucky colour: green.
elyl said:
Work with it in what way? You can add up all the numbers in the IMEI number, and if it adds up to more than 50 you will have good luck for the rest of the week. Lucky colour: green.
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HAHA! I was laughing for ages when I read that! :lol:
Change IMEI
Someone has sold me an MDA Compact, but apprently this has been blocked, so i was wondering if the IMEI number can be changed.
blocked from what? the network? that means its a stolen phone.
just install new image and it will be fine
ftp://ftp.clubimate.com/ u will find image for JAM
A new image will change IMEI? I dont think so.
install new image to unlock the phone , not to change the IMEI .
if the phone is blocked (and not locked) then flashing a new image will change nothing.
The best is to go to the seller.
can you explain more what is the block ? Thanks
If it's been blocked from the network, then tough luck - you've bought a stolen phone - or you have stolen a phone - either way, you'll not get any help on this forum to change the IMEI.
If you did indeed buy the phone, speak with the seller, or contact the police. If you stole the phone, enjoy your new PDA but forget about the phone.
Well, to be utterly fair, it is possible that he is on a different network, in which case the phone was locked to a specific carrier, not blocked. Phones can be unlocked for a different carrier.
Did you mean blocked or locked?
Well the fact that he said the phone was blocked, and wanted to know how to change the IMEI suggested to me that it had been stolen, and he knew exactly what he was talking about.
how we can check if the phone stolen or not , and in this case is it safe to buy from ebay .. ?
regards
There's not really any way to check - just make sure the seller has good feedback, and get full contact details, and buy via PayPal or a credit card - if it turns out to be stolen, contact PayPal, your credit card company, or ultimately the police.
not necessarily "stolen".
Sometimes it has been reported broken and insurance is claimed (which would be stealing from insurance company).
Or phone with contract (simlocked & sponsored by phonecompany) and refusing to pay the contract (which is stealing from the phone provider).
In both cases the Phone could get IMEI-blocked.
You can always ask the provider if it is blocked. tell them you can buy a phone, but want to know beforehand. Sometimes they will tell you.
changing IMEI
about changing IMEI.
There could be onother reason for doing that: i've been looking for a way to do it just to make shure ==the phone company could not identify me if i change the sim card e.g. buy another number and use the same device==
Will they really care?
Hello everybody.
From what I have seen the last few days, in this forum and in HTC Spain, there are a lot of us who have the same problem. I've an HTC Touch (P3450, or Elf) that started with strange and spontaneous resets (I think you call it "Data crash") after being flashed. Also, the IMEI detected by the system changed to the number everyone's getting:
IMEI 00440000350111201.
This IMEI appears when *#06# is entered; it also appears in Start > Settings > System >Device Information > Identity.
I think this is the IMEI I'm sending to the service network. Of course, that IMEI is blacklisted, so I don't have signal nor service at all. Anyhow, "deviceinfo" (by dsixda) does read the correct IMEI. Therefore, I assume that the device DOES have the correct IMEI in the eprom (or wherever it is stored), but the OS, or the bootloaders or whatever, isn't reading it well (the weird thing is that everybody ends up with the same IMEI because of that error).
Well, we know that the "changing IMEI" subject is illegal and nobody wants to discuss that in public forums, but I ask you to leave the thread open in case anyone knows or reaches eventually to a solution.
Cheers from Argentina-
Juan Pablo.
IMEIs numbers are expensive for phone manufacturers...
So, when mading a copied phone, some chineese manufacturers are using the same IMEI for a lot of devices...
Do your device is a real HTC, or it is a fancy chinese name like THC, HiTC, etc... ?
If it's a legal one, just bring it back to the carrier or the seller, and you'll have without a doubt a new one...
If it's an... HiTC... Then... You payed for what you've got... **** ! Sorry...
And if the problem is caused by the flashing, it's certainly because the provider of the ROM have left its own IMEI in the ROM...
This thread explain the problem http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=456082
Well , i've been banned for this post ...
I want to make myself clear .. that's NOT my IMEI , not even a legal one i guess ... maybe the moderator misundestood my problem and didn't take the tome to read what I was explaining.
Then again ... THAT IMEI NUMBER APPEARS IN ALL THE PHONES WITH THE SAME PROBLEM. THE EXACT SAME NUMBER.
Ok , I hope it's clear now.
Thank you both for your replies. I keep looking for an explanation and solution for my problem , I'm even in contact with HTC about this.
Thanks again.
this is a legal thread as many of the samsung, Asus and htc WM phone's imei number changing exact that imei on the header just after a unperfect rom upgrade.
Wishing to change someone's imei number as it's original condition is called REPAIRING IMEI, NOT Changing its to another one.
The sticker and box say one thing, but the IMEI on the handset is different.
All I have ever done to the phone was soft/hard (I forget which) SPL so that I could flash WinMo 6.5 following the instructions on the wiki, and everything has been fine since I did this back in May/June time.
Now I have decided to unlock it as I am on O2 with an iPhone, and thought I would use my HD as a backup phone, so I bought a credit on HTCCode.com after seeing several success stories, and it failed on the login with the software. No big concerns just yet, I emailed him the details to sort it, however as I was typing out the IMEI from the box, I thought to double check on the handset, and discovered they are different.
Is this something likely to have been changed by the SPL thing when I flashed it?
I assume I can get it unlocked via the IMEI which is currently on the handset, but I am concerned that this is not the correct one.
Any help?
TIA
ive seen other threads for other devices where ppl have claimed flashing hardspl has changed there imei number ..... just use the one ur fone reports and nt the one on the box .... no big deal
Yeah I realise it works and it's not a problem, but it may look a little bit dodgy if I choose to sell it.
The unlock worked fine anyway, just seems a little odd that the IMEI is so easy to change on these handsets. I thought it was supposed to be almost impossible.
Oh well.
You've probably looked at your phone's system properties to see what it says the IMEI number is. You can also dial *#06# on your phone's key pad. When the final # is entered, a 15-digit number will appear. This is a free call regardless of whether you have a SIM card installed.
As long as you're not doing anything illegal, you should be okay. Within the past couple of days, I read something about crooks changing IMEI numbers mostly with stolen phones but also to evade the law.
I registered my new Blackstone Clone with T-Mobile today on their prepaid plan. I asked them what IMEI number they showed and the operator said she not disclose the number but could confirm it if I, the phone's owner, gave it to her. When I dialed in *#06# (I was on a land line) on the Clone, she confirmed the IMEI when I gave it to her.
Hello,
I come to you because I have a concern is I need help is Board.
then here I buy a samsung galaxy s4 ( 9505 ) that I use with a French chip but
I did not have the means to pay the mobile plan so I 're more use for at least five months but now
j ' I took another mobile chip is when I wanted to use my I glimpse my imei blacklist was ,
after internet research I saw that I have the same imei a mini s3 but I j ' have a s4 ( 9505 )
How to change the imei knowing that now with my stupidity when
I do * # 06 # my phone telling me ' meid 0' ' then how to please
winny57 said:
Hello,
I come to you because I have a concern is I need help is Board.
then here I buy a samsung galaxy s4 ( 9505 ) that I use with a French chip but
I did not have the means to pay the mobile plan so I 're more use for at least five months but now
j ' I took another mobile chip is when I wanted to use my I glimpse my imei blacklist was ,
after internet research I saw that I have the same imei a mini s3 but I j ' have a s4 ( 9505 )
How to change the imei knowing that now with my stupidity when
I do * # 06 # my phone telling me ' meid 0' ' then how to please
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Sorry to hear that mate,
If you had an S3 mini imei means that someone for some reason changed your imei , most likely your phone is stolen......take it back , report that person......
Changing Imei is ilegal ..you will not get that help here in XDA
I heard that it was possible that from time to time there may have mobile device with the same imei since many mobile device in the world. how I can find my imei because my camera tell me ' meid '
IMEI numbers are unique and have several identifiers within them, along with a check digit to ensure they are valid. However, IMEI numbers can be easily cloned. According to a BBC News report on phone theft from 2002, some 10% of all IMEI numbers "are not unique", or in other words, cloned.[1]
What disturbs me more is that the device is not even displaying an IMEI number, but a MEID number. The I9505 is a GSM phone and would not have a MEID number. That means someone entered the service menu and tried converting this phone to work with CDMA, not realizing the phone doesn't support CDMA.
I agree with @MAX 404. Return the phone and report the person who sold it to you.
[1] http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1749215.stm
The problem is that I have the box with imei above even behind the camera is even evidence that the same IMEI number corresponds to another device but not by s4 against the bill I find it is more it do more 6 months I buy this device. I can give all the evidence if it is necessary for its
Ok, so if I understand you correctly, the IMEI on the phone and the IMEI on the box match? To be honest, that doesn't mean much since labels are easily forged. But regardless, you're apparently not able to return the phone as it's out of its return window. I would bring it to a Samsung service center and have them look at it as we're not going to be able to help you here.
yes it's on I'll try to have a peekaboo samsung France to see if I can return it free
yes I have the same IMEI on the box behind the telephone + + in the phone I have to solve this problem of 'meid'
Well, as I mentioned upthread, someone entered the service menu and changed service from GSM to CDMA. I accidentally changed the service myself on my phone, but I went back in and changed the service back to GSM. Just don't ask me how I did it because I can't remember. Once I got my S4 working correctly after replacing the SIM tray and blowing away the SIM lock I stopped messing around in the service menu.
If you're adventurous, you can enter the service menu and try to change things back. I believe it's under CDMA services in the main menu. However, I believe the service center might be better, as it is possible to screw up things even further.
ok I have to succeed my imei number is returned
I count !!!!
Now my problem remains of imei, I have all the evidence that I possess much the device that has the right imei
exclaims the back of the device, on the box, paper proving that another device has the same imei but in s3 mini declare I believe and I have a 9505
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I had to go into the service mode via * # 0011 # and then modify the CDMA option thank you to you Strephon Alkhalikoi