Hello Everyone
I was just wondering if it was possible to work with the IMEI number for an MDA Compact ?
Work with it in what way? You can add up all the numbers in the IMEI number, and if it adds up to more than 50 you will have good luck for the rest of the week. Lucky colour: green.
elyl said:
Work with it in what way? You can add up all the numbers in the IMEI number, and if it adds up to more than 50 you will have good luck for the rest of the week. Lucky colour: green.
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HAHA! I was laughing for ages when I read that! :lol:
Change IMEI
Someone has sold me an MDA Compact, but apprently this has been blocked, so i was wondering if the IMEI number can be changed.
blocked from what? the network? that means its a stolen phone.
just install new image and it will be fine
ftp://ftp.clubimate.com/ u will find image for JAM
A new image will change IMEI? I dont think so.
install new image to unlock the phone , not to change the IMEI .
if the phone is blocked (and not locked) then flashing a new image will change nothing.
The best is to go to the seller.
can you explain more what is the block ? Thanks
If it's been blocked from the network, then tough luck - you've bought a stolen phone - or you have stolen a phone - either way, you'll not get any help on this forum to change the IMEI.
If you did indeed buy the phone, speak with the seller, or contact the police. If you stole the phone, enjoy your new PDA but forget about the phone.
Well, to be utterly fair, it is possible that he is on a different network, in which case the phone was locked to a specific carrier, not blocked. Phones can be unlocked for a different carrier.
Did you mean blocked or locked?
Well the fact that he said the phone was blocked, and wanted to know how to change the IMEI suggested to me that it had been stolen, and he knew exactly what he was talking about.
how we can check if the phone stolen or not , and in this case is it safe to buy from ebay .. ?
regards
There's not really any way to check - just make sure the seller has good feedback, and get full contact details, and buy via PayPal or a credit card - if it turns out to be stolen, contact PayPal, your credit card company, or ultimately the police.
not necessarily "stolen".
Sometimes it has been reported broken and insurance is claimed (which would be stealing from insurance company).
Or phone with contract (simlocked & sponsored by phonecompany) and refusing to pay the contract (which is stealing from the phone provider).
In both cases the Phone could get IMEI-blocked.
You can always ask the provider if it is blocked. tell them you can buy a phone, but want to know beforehand. Sometimes they will tell you.
changing IMEI
about changing IMEI.
There could be onother reason for doing that: i've been looking for a way to do it just to make shure ==the phone company could not identify me if i change the sim card e.g. buy another number and use the same device==
Will they really care?
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Hi all
I was wondering if anyone knew the answer to the above question.
to explain a bit better:
If i change the IMEI on my XDA it will obviously show up on the phone. What i want to know is will the network see the new of old IMEI. Ie whis is sent out by the phone.
Also:
From that i have found out the new service which blocks off stolen phones work that runs in the UK work by the IMEI code of the phone.
How do i make sure i don't change my IMEI to a number that is registered as stolen and in turn block my phone off.
Also again:
If at a later stage my phone does get blocked will changing it back to the original IMEI unblock it?
After all this i'm wondering if i should bother changing the IMEI. Although it would be nice to have my DOB there.
Oops I think I posted this in the rwong place!!
To Adminstrators:
Sorry
If it is in the wrong place could you move it?
The IMEI is stored in two places: one is displayed, the other is used to send to the network. The Manipulator changes both locations. The chance you'll change your IMEI to one of a stolen phone is small, very small. (It's six digits if you exclude the manufacturer part, so the chance is definitely bigger than getting hit by a meteorite, but still)
We included the IMEI change bit because:
a) We could
b) Privacy concerns: we'd like to live in a world where people can have multiple identities that are hard to connect, even if their opponents happen to run the country / telco.
WOW!!
Thanks for the great answer. As soon as it is possible to change my imei and unblock my phone i'll be doing it. (I have version 4.20 so it don't work yet).
Does anyone know of a web site where it list all the imei that are recognised as stolen or a number i can call in the UK to find out. The local police are useless and don't know anything.
A number to report a stolen phone would be useful as well cos my little sis got her knicked.
so..my buddies phone keeps 'searching' for signal.. im thinking they have disabled the imei #.. it was working the other day with with his cingular sim in it but now its constantly searching and when he goes into the network tab to select manual it says 'cant read settings from network'
Theoretically, yes. When you report a phone as stolen, the carrier will usually block the SIM card and mark the IMEI number as stolen*. I've never heard of a carrier just randomly blocking a IMEI number though. And as far as I know there's no way for them to know that the phone had another carrier's SIM card in it.
* Of course, in the case of Cingular, they do absolutely nothing with that information. When my phone was stolen (later returned, thankfully) I was on the phone with them for a long time. The only thing that would happen with a blacklisted IMEI is, IF the person took it to a store, and the associate saw it was stolen and took the initiative to take it from them and call the police.
well hes changed the rom to different verisons and also different radio verisons trying to fix and nothing is picking up signal.. so u have any ideas what could be going on?
jacob-mda said:
well hes changed the rom to different verisons and also different radio verisons trying to fix and nothing is picking up signal.. so u have any ideas what could be going on?
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Try a new sim card. I had my Tmobile sim card take a dump on me and that is exactly what my SDA did, kept searching for a signal. So my advice is try another sim card and if the phone picks up signal then tell him to go to his carrier and get a new one. They should do it for free.
we tried multi carrier sim cards.. tmobile cingular and cellular one.. stuck on searching.
I dont know how it is donw over in the US, but in the UK i believe that the Imei can be blockd so the phone will not work correctly. So the phone is dead to the world!!!
thats how its looking. and i cant get the imei change tool from the site to work!
funman said:
I dont know how it is donw over in the US, but in the UK i believe that the Imei can be blockd so the phone will not work correctly. So the phone is dead to the world!!!
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Yeah i beleve Europe and the UK will block an IMEI reported stolen. The US carriers dont care. They would rather sell you another phone, even if its a free phone, and rope you into another contract. Think about it, blocking stolen IMEIs requires effort that does not pay the company back. Giving away a free phone requires effort that makes them money because you are stuck in another contract, and they can collect the termination fee if you decide to dump said contract.
Thats why in the UK most of us pay abit more each month so if the phone is taken or lost we get a new on on the same contract and the company gets no more money as no new contact!!!!!
And now you are saying to your self in the USA why did we not stay with the Brits!!! We would be better off!!!
Rule Britannia, Britannia rules the wave
God save our people and that DUMB Queen as well!
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Never a nice thought some one is flicking thru your contacts and private photos.
No they can onlu IMEI block it to prevent it making calls, consider using the built in password options.
they can imei bar it but the orbit works without a sim in terms of browsing stuff so I guess so, unless you set up a handset pin as well as a sim pin
What happens if they put a different sim card in there before i tell O2?
Can you still search around on the device with Active Sync if there is a lock.
it will still imei bar the handset, I would guess so re the active sync q, bes thing is to put a handset pin in
i take there is a hack to unlock the IMEI after they have blocked it.
No there is no hack unless you phyically flash the phone to change the IMEI as i amware this is not possible.. well probably but more likly to completely f*** the phone up.
Now there is a small thing there is no INTERNATIONAL blacklist for IMEI i think the EU or atleast many EU countries are linked so you cant just go to France from UK and use a bared IMEI but i know it u go to like Thailand you can (gave my girlfriend a phone i had when she was on holiday and it worked that was bared here because i reported it stolen and then it turned up).
Anyway no-one on here will help you change an IMEI its to risky for all they know you may have stolen it. (this is not an acusation in ANYWAY) However there are those that will try this sort of technique.
Is it possible that my SPV imei is blocked by network an i cant phone anywhere? because i bought my phone in secon hand shop. if yes how i can change my imei. thank you for a help
der_Tiger said:
Is it possible that my SPV imei is blocked by network an i cant phone anywhere? because i bought my phone in secon hand shop. if yes how i can change my imei. thank you for a help
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I know you have been trying to get your Hermes working (from your other posts) - bottom line is, yes it may be blocked.
Demand your money back as it's not working. If the phone is blocked then tell them it will be a matter for the police to resolve unless you get your cash. (Legally speaking of course if you suspect it's stolen you should report the matter to the police - some poor sod is missing a Hermes and may not have been insured)
In nearly all cases it's illegal to change the IMEI. As you rightly assume if it's blocked it's stolen.
Mike
Technically you cannot do anything except inform police.
Returning it to the place it was purchased would mean you commit an offence of handling stolen goods if you suspect it to be stolen (which a blocked IMEI might imply).
Thx folks better i will go give them back this phone. thx for help.
I have a dumb question.
If i lost my hd2 and i have insurr on the phone, I get a new one after paying the deductible. If i ever found the lost hd2 or somebody else found it what happens ?
is it rendered useless by tmobile or the guy that found it can still use it when he pops in his sim ?
thanks,
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I have a dumb question.
If i lost my hd2 and i have insurr on the phone, I get a new one after paying the deductible. If i ever found the lost hd2 or somebody else found it what happens ?
is it rendered useless by tmobile or the guy that found it can still use it when he pops in his sim ?
thanks,
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thats very subtle.
In the UK, I was told by my retailer that a lost phone can be blocked from accessing the network and that this was done as soon as a phone became an insurance write-off. I don't know what constitutes 'the network' in this case.
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I have a dumb question.
If i lost my hd2 and i have insurr on the phone, I get a new one after paying the deductible. If i ever found the lost hd2 or somebody else found it what happens ?
is it rendered useless by tmobile or the guy that found it can still use it when he pops in his sim ?
thanks,
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In the UK, the re-found phone now belongs to the insurance company.
Every network knows the IMEI numbers that are accessing their network. They will block any IMEI's that are reported lost or stolen and add it to the black list.
In the UK our phnes would be blacklisted as soon as reported lost or stolen by the networ operator, if you havent recieved your replacement there isa tiny chance th network may un-blacklist your phone but a ver small chance, and for using it in a different country erm im not telling you,............... lol
there is a site that for ~£2 can verify a phone by IMEI if is stolen.
there are some free sites also that can verify if the IMEI is blacklisted.
i think black list is international and it will not work any ware on this planet if blacklisted.
cedesmith said:
there is a site that for ~£2 can verify a phone by IMEI if is stolen.
there are some free sites also that can verify if the IMEI is blacklisted.
i think black list is international and it will not work any ware on this planet if blacklisted.
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The IMEI number is used by the GSM network to identify valid devices and therefore can be used to stop a stolen phone from accessing the network in that country. For example, if a mobile phone is stolen, the owner can call his or her network provider and instruct them to "ban" the phone using its IMEI number. This renders the phone useless in that country, whether or not the phone's SIM is changed. However, the phone can be used abroad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mobile_Equipment_Identity
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The IMEI number is used by the GSM network to identify valid devices and therefore can be used to stop a stolen phone from accessing the network in that country. For example, if a mobile phone is stolen, the owner can call his or her network provider and instruct them to "ban" the phone using its IMEI number. This renders the phone useless in that country, whether or not the phone's SIM is changed. However, the phone can be used abroad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mobile_Equipment_Identity
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In other words, you can not claim the insurance without make a report to the police, then, that phone is blocked by the network(useless after that) and if all goes right you get a new one.
Just a question, does the insurance pay if you lost it? Or is just if is stolen?
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In other words, you can not claim the insurance without make a report to the police, then, that phone is blocked by the network(useless after that) and if all goes right you get a new one.
Just a question, does the insurance pay if you lost it? Or is just if is stolen?
A mobile insurance has many "If..."
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I guess it would depend on what you are covered for, im covered with Virgin for anything, so even if i throw it at a wall drop down the toilet im covered i will get areplacement, my friend is only covered if its stolen so depends who you cover is with and what thre T&C's are.
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i think black list is international and it will not work any ware on this planet if blacklisted.
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IMEI blacklists are only vaild in the country the phone was barred from. So it goes without saying you could take it to another countrys cellular network and use it with a different SIM.
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if you havent recieved your replacement there isa tiny chance th network may un-blacklist your phone but a ver small chance
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It's impossible to unblock a blocked IMEI number, once it's been blocked it's usless in that country.
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IMEI blacklists are only vaild in the country the phone was barred from. So it goes without saying you could take it to another countrys cellular network and use it with a different SIM.
It's impossible to unblock a blocked IMEI number, once it's been blocked it's usless in that country.
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not true i have had a vodafone phone that they blacklisted by somestupid reason i still had the contract and had upgraded and i got it un-blacklisted