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The HTC Checkin service is talked about quite a lot, as lots of people seem to have issues with it running all the time, and sometimes twice. No-one seems to know what to do with it though.
My personal experience of it is that it takes over 90% of my CPU and I need to restart Android as I can't actually kill it. (If it does close then it's starting again straight away.)
I'm currently using Mdeejay FroYo HD v3.7 and this is the only problem I have with it (other than the obvious camera issue).
Does anyone have any advice on how I can kill this app/service and stop it restarting? I'd ideally like it removed from my phone unless it's really, really important.
johncmolyneux said:
The HTC Checkin service is talked about quite a lot, as lots of people seem to have issues with it running all the time, and sometimes twice. No-one seems to know what to do with it though.
My personal experience of it is that it takes over 90% of my CPU and I need to restart Android as I can't actually kill it. (If it does close then it's starting again straight away.)
I'm currently using Mdeejay FroYo HD v3.7 and this is the only problem I have with it (other than the obvious camera issue).
Does anyone have any advice on how I can kill this app/service and stop it restarting? I'd ideally like it removed from my phone unless it's really, really important.
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You can try using Titanium Backup to freeze it. If everything works without it then you can use it to uninstall it completely.
hastarin said:
You can try using Titanium Backup to freeze it. If everything works without it then you can use it to uninstall it completely.
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Good plan - hadn't thought of that. I'll give it a go.
Cheers mate
running high as well
johncmolyneux said:
Good plan - hadn't thought of that. I'll give it a go.
Cheers mate
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how did it work out for you? process smd_tty is now taking up 90% for me. just curious. thanks.
I used the freeze option in Titanium,as suggested, and it didn't have any detrimental effects, so I removed it and have not had any side effects. I'd say try the same and see how you get on.
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what "freeze" option? i only see the ability to back up programs... Titanium had a taskmanager-like feature? Can you tell me where i can find thid feature? thanks.
steve austin said:
what "freeze" option? i only see the ability to back up programs... Titanium had a taskmanager-like feature? Can you tell me where i can find thid feature? thanks.
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It's only available in the paid version, but I think you can still see it in the free one.
Bring up the app list by clicking on "Backup/Restore" and then click an application. There's a freeze option in there.
i can't see the process smd_tty as an app or process in titanium. no listing for it.
It may be running as part of some other process then. Without knowing what it actually does I don't know what you could do about it.
thanks. that is what i thought. I take it that you are happy with your fix? ar you still getting the high cpu burn now? is the check in service virtually useless then?
I just spent some time trying to figure out what had broken my contacts functionality and this was it. Again, removing "blur_yahoo.apk" and the associated .odex file will break the contacts app. After removal, clicking on a contact in the dialer/contact app will just shut the app down. I've no idea why, since the yahoo app is for yahoo mail.
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F**k...I just noticed that too
I noticed that freezing some of the messaging/social services also seems to force close the built-in message app too. If you use something like ChompSMS then it isn't a big deal b/c that still works.
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F**k...I just noticed that too
I noticed that freezing some of the messaging/social services also seems to force close the built-in message app too. If you use something like ChompSMS then it isn't a big deal b/c that still works.
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Hm, I deleted all of the messaging/social stuff and my moto text app (conversations.apk) still works...
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Really? Hmm...might be something else then that you'd think wouldn't affect it but does.
guys which apps should i delete that won't mess with the software....that will get rid of the bloatware
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won't mess with the software
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Translation? That request doesn't exactly make sense
JagoX said:
Translation? That request doesn't exactly make sense
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like it doesnt delete important apk's and things needed that will make the phone crash or delete files needed to make the phone functional
smyers1012 said:
like it doesnt delete important apk's and things needed that will make the phone crash or delete files needed to make the phone functional
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You should probably do some more research before you start messing with that b/c it can brick the OS requiring a full install of the ROM. In this case, if you don't do a restore before removing stuff you'll be restoring the SBF file a lot.
But to answer your question though...the app you want is Titanium Backup Pro (aka the pay version b/c of the "Freeze" option.)
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im not that stupid i know what an SBF is and i know how to do it ive done it all the time!...
i just didnt know which apps would be best to freeze
smyers1012 said:
im not that stupid i know what an SBF is and i know how to do it ive done it all the time!...
i just didnt know which apps would be best to freeze
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Well since the GB build for the DX just came out, I haven't been able to find a definitive thread anywhere (including on MyDroidWorld) listing what is save to remove or at least freeze. As of right now I think it's safe to say that its going to be a trial and error situation.
There are threads somewhere (droidforums?) about which of the 2.1 and 2.2 apps are safe to remove. While there are some new apps, those that were safe before are still safe. Of the new apps, the blur_yahoo is the only one that's given me trouble. Be warned, though, that while you can remove Backup Assistant and Blur Home, if you do a factory reset from within Android (rather than from clockworkmod), your initial install will break and you'll need to sbf if you can't get back into clockwork.
Also, bluremailengine is needed for blurcalendar to work properly. I remove bluremail, all the third party crap, all the social crap, swipe, and various other things I don't use like universal inbox, widgets, etc. Really, you just need to play with it.
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There are threads somewhere (droidforums?) about which of the 2.1 and 2.2 apps are safe to remove. While there are some new apps, those that were safe before are still safe. Of the new apps, the blur_yahoo is the only one that's given me trouble. Be warned, though, that while you can remove Backup Assistant and Blur Home, if you do a factory reset from within Android (rather than from clockworkmod), your initial install will break and you'll need to sbf if you can't get back into clockwork.
Also, bluremailengine is needed for blurcalendar to work properly. I remove bluremail, all the third party crap, all the social crap, swipe, and various other things I don't use like universal inbox, widgets, etc. Really, you just need to play with it.
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Yea I know about those threads (I have one open right now actually) but since this is a whole new version of Blur & version of Android w/ a lot of changes & new options...who knows what Motorola changed or buried deeper into the system.
Thanks for being the guinea pig though I've never had a reason to use factory reset after a ROM is installed so removing BA & Blur Home isn't a big deal.
One question...have you removed the Messaging & Text Messaging apps at all? I still can't figure out what it was that caused the Text Messaging app to quit on me as soon as it was opened. Not that it's a big deal...b/c ChompSMS worked fine for me
Does anyone else notice a SEVERE amount of lag immediately after you reboot the phone? Lasts about 3-4 minutes every time I reboot then goes away. Affects everything from changing home screens, to opening apps, even turning the ringer volume up and down lags...
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Does anyone else notice a SEVERE amount of lag immediately after you reboot the phone? Lasts about 3-4 minutes every time I reboot then goes away. Affects everything from changing home screens, to opening apps, even turning the ringer volume up and down lags...
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That's always been a problem with MotoBlur (and even HTC Sense)...it's all the services that load in the background all at once (even after freezing or removing some services.)
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Yea I know about those threads (I have one open right now actually) but since this is a whole new version of Blur & version of Android w/ a lot of changes & new options...who knows what Motorola changed or buried deeper into the system.
Thanks for being the guinea pig though I've never had a reason to use factory reset after a ROM is installed so removing BA & Blur Home isn't a big deal.
One question...have you removed the Messaging & Text Messaging apps at all? I still can't figure out what it was that caused the Text Messaging app to quit on me as soon as it was opened. Not that it's a big deal...b/c ChompSMS worked fine for me
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I removed all the messaging crap except the default messaging app (conversations.apk). I use Google Voice so I don't use the default app, but I sent myself a message using it and it worked just fine.
Note: you can do a data wipe/factory reset from within clockwork and you'll be fine.
If someone can produce a list of everything in /system/app (well, just the .apks would do), I can mark the ones I've successfully removed without problems.
Ditto to that...I'd be happy to contribute what I've frozen.
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Does anyone else notice a SEVERE amount of lag immediately after you reboot the phone? Lasts about 3-4 minutes every time I reboot then goes away. Affects everything from changing home screens, to opening apps, even turning the ringer volume up and down lags...
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That's always been a problem with MotoBlur (and even HTC Sense)...it's all the services that load in the background all at once (even after freezing or removing some services.)
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Mine takes about 10-15 seconds from the appearance of the homescreen until it's at full speed. Of course, I've overclocked to 1.2 GHz, debloated, zipaligned, implemented drod's rubix tweaks, and used autostarts to kill unnecessary apps from loading at boot.
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Mine takes about 10-15 seconds from the appearance of the homescreen until it's at full speed. Of course, I've overclocked to 1.2 GHz, debloated, zipaligned, implemented drod's rubix tweaks, and used autostarts to kill unnecessary apps from loading at boot.
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Hmm. 10-15 seconds seems a tad excessive then. I'm still running stock speed, LPP 0.8.4.1, debloated most major apps and also used Autostarts to kill some apps at boot (as well as in the Widgets menu)...and while I see a slight lag it's not 10-15 seconds.
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Hmm. 10-15 seconds seems a tad excessive then. I'm still running stock speed, LPP 0.8.4.1, debloated most major apps and also used Autostarts to kill some apps at boot (as well as in the Widgets menu)...and while I see a slight lag it's not 10-15 seconds.
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You're right. I just timed it. About 38 seconds from red M to full appearance of desktop (I've got the boot animation disabled) and about 25 seconds from full desktop to all widgets loaded and ready to go. I underestimated by 40-60%! I'm using the blur launcher, btw.
Something must be wrong with mine then...because mine lasts a good 3 to 4 minutes...and that seems very long for services to be starting...
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As quoted on their v2.0 update,
What's New
v2.0 (rolling out)
Greenify now works on non-root devices! Try out the non-root working mode (without automatic hibernation due to privilege restriction).
Shortcut "Hibernate All" can now be created also from main menu in Greenify.
Greatly improved the stability of auto-hibernation service, especially on Android 4.4+.
Bugfixes.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify
Now if only they can get TiBu to work without root, I'd no longer have a reason to root my device..
Let me decide which apps / carrier bloat I want on my device (read: none of it).
Seems like I still can't hibernate some apps. I can't get it to work.
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Excellent but you need to close apps
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that is really good news, but what does automatic hibernation do?
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that is really good news, but what does automatic hibernation do?
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Automatic hibernation, automatically hibernate apps that you manually set to hibernate?
Oh yeah, guys, they are still rolling out the v2.0, I still have 1.99 so it still doesn't work.
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Automatic hibernation, automatically hibernate apps that you manually set to hibernate?
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automatically hibernate what I already manually hibernated? I am sure that there is something missing
or do you mean that it will re-hibernate the apps after opening them or restarting the device?
ahomad said:
automatically hibernate what I already manually hibernated? I am sure that there is something missing
or do you mean that it will re-hibernate the apps after opening them or restarting the device?
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Yes, it will re-hibernate the apps after opening or after using them. BUT auto-hibernation doesn't work with non-rooted phones.
Still waiting for the v2.00
Totally unusable without rooting.
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Only useful to stop battery drain if you know u will be without a charger four a long number of hours.
Otherwise more hassle than its worth.
What does the paid version give you? And is it worth it.
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Totally unusable without rooting.
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Mine is working and my Z1 is not rooted, it just ask to force stop the application first, then it will hibernate the app. Check it again.
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Only useful to stop battery drain if you know u will be without a charger four a long number of hours.
Otherwise more hassle than its worth.
What does the paid version give you? And is it worth it.
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Well, if you have any unwanted apps that runs on the background and eats the juice of your battery, greenify will put them to sleep.
rpcherrera said:
Well, if you have any unwanted apps that runs on the background and eats the juice of your battery, greenify will put them to sleep.
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My point is that it's more hassle to do all the force closing than recharging more frequently.
The only time it's really helpful is if u will be without a charger for a really really long time and you have no choice but to slow down battery drain.
I have root and Paid Greenify, my Battery is amazing and Paid Version adds nice Features.
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Only useful to stop battery drain if you know u will be without a charger four a long number of hours.
Otherwise more hassle than its worth.
What does the paid version give you? And is it worth it.
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Paid is awesome - hibernated AND still get push notifications.
Best app for saving battery
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Once all apps are force closed by the app... The drain is almost zero.
There is an option to automate it
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My point is that it's more hassle to do all the force closing than recharging more frequently.
The only time it's really helpful is if u will be without a charger for a really really long time and you have no choice but to slow down battery drain.
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There is an option to automate it (for non rooted). You still have to select the "hibernate now" manually but it will then automatically force close all the apps selected by you for greenifying..I have had this since about 3 months or so. It works only on my Xperia Z1 but not on my Galaxy Tab (GT-P3113) (which is on 4.2.2)
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There is an option to automate it (for non rooted). You still have to select the "hibernate now" manually but it will then automatically force close all the apps selected by you for greenifying..I have had this since about 3 months or so. It works only on my Xperia Z1 but not on my Galaxy Tab (GT-P3113) (which is on 4.2.2)
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Yes.
I use it frequently now.
That's a pretty useful add-on. It's turned a useless app into a useful one.
Updated to stock 5.1.1 on my note 4 n910u variant last week, and I noticed that it kills apps that are suppose to stay in memory,like Adguard or pintasking. This was not an issue on 5.0.1 and I'd like to know if anyone has observed this.
I'm not running any task killing apps or Xposed modules.
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Yep, me too. 5.1.1 is closing apps like Network manager, Silent, No root vpn,...
don't have task killer and not rooted
pr1jker said:
Yep, me too. 5.1.1 is closing apps like Network manager, Silent, No root vpn,...
don't have task killer and not rooted
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Damn. I guess it was too much to ask to get a fully functional firmware update from Sammy? ?
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I think it happens when an app calls System.exit() upon service termination. Previously, the system would restart the service but now it seems it kills it until restarted manually.
Try contacting the app's author to ask if they do that.
Well, on second thought, it seems to still kill my app even though I removed System.exit().
I have no idea why it happens. Services are supposed to be restarted automatically.
zapek666 said:
Well, on second thought, it seems to still kill my app even though I removed System.exit().
I have no idea why it happens. Services are supposed to be restarted automatically.
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Sigh... this is probably why 5.1.1 is giving me better battery life... it kills everything ?
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I wonder what "algorithm" they use through because it doesn't happen with everything. I know that once a service is killed that way, the only way to run it again is to start the app manually.
Could it be that? http://androiding.how/fix-app-reloading-galaxy-s6-5-1-1/
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Could it be that? http://androiding.how/fix-app-reloading-galaxy-s6-5-1-1/
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It'd be interesting to know and I may try it later on. I wonder if this might help with multitasking in general - not just services being killed.
EDIT: doesn't help with multitasking, but I'll see if it helps with the persistent apps closing.
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Ok, the thing is called "SmartAdjustManager" and it's indeed some thing that tries to classify running processes.
I'm not fully done with it yet but it seems the following factors avoid killing:
- it's a Samsung process (of course)
- it's a carrier added package
- it's some Google services (but not Android Wear it seems, which is quite an oversight)
- it has a widget running on the homescreen (could be a usable workaround for some apps)
- it has a notification
- its packagename ends with ".cocktailbarservice" *
It does its statistics during a few days (3 days.. 7 days..) which explains why things can run well then all of a sudden a particular services gets killed all the time.
Its whitelist can be updated by some external system but I didn't find where the file is yet.
The following build.prop vars control it (default in parenthesis):
sys.config.samp_enable (true)
sys.config.samp_hotness_enable (true, needs samp_enable too)
sys.config.samp_spcm_enable (false)
sys.config.samp_debug (false)
sys.config.samp_debug_trace (false)
sys.config.samp_debug_spcm (number, none)
It also uses these vars for memory management (when to kill and so on):
sys.config.s_dha_margin
sys.config.s_dha_bg_max
sys.config.s_dha_bg_min
sys.config.s_dha_db_kill
sys.config.s_dha_extra_cache
sys.config.s_dha_cache_max
sys.config.service_kill_adj
*: so it seems the workaround in my case is to add .cocktailbarservice to my packagename.. ridiculous.
You can add the package name to a whitelist stored at:
/data/misc/lpnet/lpnetConfig
(needs root)
Ok, I tested:
Code:
sys.config.samp_spcm_enable=false
This disables the service killing. My phone is now more reliable (no missing wear notifications, no missing calls from my VoIP app, etc...).
Also for improved memory management:
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sys.config.samp_enable=false
ro.config.fha_enable=true
The first one disables the whole SmartAdjustManager nonsense. The 2nd one switches to a simpler memory management closer to the one that AOSP uses. It's like I'm using a new phone!
Conclusion: the Samsung mobile team has no idea of what they're doing. If they think that killing and restarting processes all the time is going to solve anything, they're wrong. It only gives a sluggish phone as a result.
Are you using any DHA tweaks or just those few lines?
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To zapek666:
Are those last 2 lines to be added below the first line you mentioned?
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zapek666 said:
Ok, I tested:
Code:
sys.config.samp_spcm_enable=false
This disables the service killing. My phone is now more reliable (no missing wear notifications, no missing calls from my VoIP app, etc...).
Also for improved memory management:
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sys.config.samp_enable=false
ro.config.fha_enable=true
The first one disables the whole SmartAdjustManager nonsense. The 2nd one switches to a simpler memory management closer to the one that AOSP uses. It's like I'm using a new phone!
Conclusion: the Samsung mobile team has no idea of what they're doing. If they think that killing and restarting processes all the time is going to solve anything, they're wrong. It only gives a sluggish phone as a result.
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Are these edits exclusive to Lollipop 5.1.1 or will they work on Lollipop 5.0.1 or even Kitkat 4.4.4?
Same problem here. Apps get killed all the time. So what to do with a non rooted phone? I tried to change settings of this awful smart manager thing, but still: my phone is not reliable anymore. Btw: Battery life is more or less the same for me.
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Updated to stock 5.1.1 on my note 4 n910u variant last week, and I noticed that it kills apps that are suppose to stay in memory,like Adguard or pintasking. This was not an issue on 5.0.1 and I'd like to know if anyone has observed this.
I'm not running any task killing apps or Xposed modules.
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Try COI or COJ Stock update.
Everything feel much better from COH.
All your problem is from fingerprint bug.
If you are in COH update, try disable fingerprint until you update to COI or COJ stock.
I'm on COJ stock update with fingerprint enabled.
No more random lag, random hot boot & no more random app killing.
zapek666 said:
Ok, I tested:
Code:
sys.config.samp_spcm_enable=false
This disables the service killing. My phone is now more reliable (no missing wear notifications, no missing calls from my VoIP app, etc...).
Also for improved memory management:
Code:
sys.config.samp_enable=false
ro.config.fha_enable=true
The first one disables the whole SmartAdjustManager nonsense. The 2nd one switches to a simpler memory management closer to the one that AOSP uses. It's like I'm using a new phone!
Conclusion: the Samsung mobile team has no idea of what they're doing. If they think that killing and restarting processes all the time is going to solve anything, they're wrong. It only gives a sluggish phone as a result.
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I'm still testing these, but first impression is that these seem to work, thanks. DHA only allowed about 4 active apps, now I can keep 7 or 8 apps in RAM and multitasking is much better. For people who want to give this one a shot, comment out all DHA lines in your build.prop if added by a Custom ROM, kernel etc and activate FHA instead.
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Are these edits exclusive to Lollipop 5.1.1 or will they work on Lollipop 5.0.1 or even Kitkat 4.4.4?
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The SPCM background services killer was added in 5.1.1. If the rest improves memory performances, I would guess so but I can't confirm as I didn't try with older firmwares.
More info here: http://zapek.com/blog/how-to-make-your-galaxy-note-4-fast-again/
can't you just use settings -> battery -> app optimization to edit the whitelist and disable smart manager?
just choose to never optimize certain apps and they should work normally again.
My Pushbullet and FB Messenger messages are severely delayed after I switched to the 8 Pro. I've made sure to disable RAM boost, also disabling any battery optimizations for said apps. Yet, most of the time, I don't receive any messages until I manually open the app in question. Not sure what else I should change or if this is a system issue. I never had these issues on my OP6 and used the same settings there. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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My Pushbullet and FB Messenger messages are severely delayed after I switched to the 8 Pro. I've made sure to disable RAM boost, also disabling any battery optimizations for said apps. Yet, most of the time, I don't receive any messages until I manually open the app in question. Not sure what else I should change or if this is a system issue. I never had these issues on my OP6 and used the same settings there. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Did you also disable Adaptive Battery and Sleep standby optimization under Advanced optimization for Battery?
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bjevers said:
Did you also disable Adaptive Battery and Sleep standby optimization under Advanced optimization for Battery?
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Yes, I've done that too. So strange that it didn't help. And seeing that it affects Pushbullet, Messengern and Whatsapp tells me it's not specifically app related.
I too have noticed issues with this, sometimes they come through exactly at the right time and other times I have to wake the screen before they then proceed to come through. It seems the battery optimisation settings are quite harsh on wake-locks out the box.
Remove each app from optimization. You should be able to find the app, and it's the settings app and then turn it off per app.
OnePlus really wind me up with their battery optimisations. It kills off the user experience in the name of good battery!
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OnePlus really wind me up with their battery optimisations. It kills off the user experience in the name of good battery!
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there are some brand that do it worst like Huawei (when it has google) and xiaomi, this 2 brand kill everything in background
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Remove each app from optimization. You should be able to find the app, and it's the settings app and then turn it off per app.
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As I said in my original post, I've disabled the battery optimizations for the affected apps, but to no avail.
I may have found the cause and the solution to this, but it's still too early to tell. Most of my apps are restored using TiBu, coming from my previous OP6. I've uninstalled and reinstalled some of the problematic apps clean, not restoring app data with TiBu, but rather from the Play Store. I'm amazed that the app data is automatically restored upon app installation, given that the app itself allows it.
This seems to have done the trick, Pushbullet, Messenger and others seem to be giving me notifications instantly. I did have to disable battery optimization on those apps once more. I'll report back later.
Maybe a dalvik-cache and cache wipe would suffice, I have no idea.
The push notifications are extremely late if the phone remains quite unused, I have set the best but I cannot solve the problem. I need to take gmail emails in real time and this is a serious problem for me, have you found any solutions?