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Hello!
I´ve recently got a Witson HU (MTCD 1.97a) with the Canbus adapter for my Fiat Bravo (2013).
The steering wheel controls function ok (vol up, vol down,...) but i´ve seen another HU displaying "door opened" or other msgs (displayed in center car display), overwritten on HU display that look like the ones that appear when you change volume...
I tried various canbus settings (i found 2 different for the Fiat Bravo) but neither of them works as aspected. One is ok for the steering wheel controls and the other does nothing. But again... no extra msgs on screen.
Is it ok like this? Maybe the canbus decoder only works for those msgs, and ignore the rest of the canbus data...
any ideas would be appreciated!! thanks in advance!
greetings from Argentina!
_javi_ said:
Hello!
I´ve recently got a Witson HU (MTCD 1.97a) with the Canbus adapter for my Fiat Bravo (2013).
The steering wheel controls function ok (vol up, vol down,...) but i´ve seen another HU displaying "door opened" or other msgs (displayed in center car display), overwritten on HU display that look like the ones that appear when you change volume...
I tried various canbus settings (i found 2 different for the Fiat Bravo) but neither of them works as aspected. One is ok for the steering wheel controls and the other does nothing. But again... no extra msgs on screen.
Is it ok like this? Maybe the canbus decoder only works for those msgs, and ignore the rest of the canbus data...
any ideas would be appreciated!! thanks in advance!
greetings from Argentina!
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That feature doesnt necessarily work on all cars, look for an app like "Car settings" or "Car service" in the apps when you have it set on the 2 Fiat Bravo CAN Bus setting, if you cant find it anywhere, go through all apps, if you still cant find anything, then that feature is not supported. You could also try any other Fiat CAN Bus setting, or maybe Lancias, Alfa or even some Chrysler vehicles theyre all made by FCA so there is a possibility it may work, probably not but worth trying.
You could also try the menu on the car, I know on the Bravo you can control some stuff on the factory nav unit, if you didnt ahve nav in the car it may be a case of turning the feature on via the car before it will work.
After typos1 tip, i set the canbus mode to ALFA ROMEO. The display shows an overhead view of a car, with the doors or boot being opened. Great!!! BUT... i lost steering wheel controls. Bad!!
So i´ll wait for an OS update to fix this thing.
The calibration screen for steering wheel controls doesnt show any option, in any case.
thanks again!
_javi_ said:
After typos1 tip, i set the canbus mode to ALFA ROMEO. The display shows an overhead view of a car, with the doors or boot being opened. Great!!! BUT... i lost steering wheel controls. Bad!!
So i´ll wait for an OS update to fix this thing.
The calibration screen for steering wheel controls doesnt show any option, in any case.
thanks again!
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Ah, thats annoying.
The OS has nothing to do with it, its the MCU that deals with this sort of stuff, so an OS update for wont help, an MCU update may do IF they add full support for the Bravo and theres no guarantee that they will.
Some cars have CAN Bus but use resistive SWC (my Alfa is like this, but some Alfas do have CAN Bus SWC) which could explain it.
There may be a way round it if you buy an SWC adapter for your car. These headunits supposedly use the same SWC protocol as Pioneer, so if you got a Pioneer/Fiat Bravo SWC adapter, disconnected the 2 SWC wires from your CAN Bus box and attached them to the SWC adapter it would convert the CAN Bus SWC signal from your car into resistive so the stereo can understand them. AFAIK this has not been done before but it should work.
EDIT : didnt spot the bit about the SWC calibration not showing up, damn, I guess you could extract the SWC app using the app "APKextractor" and see if it installs when the stereo is in Alfa Romeo CAN Bus mode.
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EDIT : didnt spot the bit about the SWC calibration not showing up, damn, I guess you could extract the SWC app using the app "APKextractor" and see if it installs when the stereo is in Alfa Romeo CAN Bus mode.
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browsing other threads i saw there are users with the same issue. SWC app shows just a blank screen (with save and reset buttons on top).
I´m still studying this (among other things... the mtcd HU is nice.. but it looks like it needs polishing)
hi, is your witson still working?
Evening all.
I have an xtrons 4.4 HU, it's fitted with a canbus decoder in and Audi A4.
The HU came with the steering wheel controls preset, I've tried to map them to add my own touch but I can't. When I go into the steering wheel control option, I operate a key and he screen does not recognise this, I've also tried highlighting a button then trying to use a steeeing wheel button and it still doesn't recognise it.
What ami missing guys? All the YouTube and Google tutorials say to do it how I am!
Thanks.
I have the same issue on a 2012 Mazda 3, the head unit only recognizes a direct voltage input from the steering wheel buttons, yours is probably controlled by the CANBUS, with the head unit, there should be 2 wires (Key1 and Key2), they should be connected to the car wiring I believe. Please wait for someone with more experience to confirm.
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From what I've read they are connected through canbus but I have no idea how to work around this. Thanks.
Anyone? Tried downloading the rk1188 headunit app but it does nothing!
interested about!
Anyone please?
Hi There,
I have an VW Touareg I from Year 4/2008. It is the Facelift Model with CANBUS 2.0
Buy a Erisin 5056T Unit (PX5 / 2 GB) with integrated VW CANBUS Decoding Box (Decoder inside the Radio it´s not external Box).
Inside the Unit i try different Types of CANBUS settings (Default was 1 (VW / Scoda))
I am little Frustrated because of the limit Implementations of decoding CANBUS Signal inside this Unit.
Whats running:
ACC Signal (Radio turn on when i plug IN the Car Key and go into "Sleep Mode" when i pull the Key out.
Steering Wheel Keys: Only Loud / quiet / Phone / Mute keys are running (can´t change any Responsible of keys in the Unit) seems hard coded
Screen for Camera Switching if i switch my gear into Reverse
Whats not running:
NO , really no Data inside the vehicle App.
Reaktion of draw lines for the backwards Camera change/move only when i turn 100% left or Right on the Steering Wheel. And only for millimeters....
Is there any Experience with other Units that can better Communicate with VW Touareg?
Regards
Ben
no one use a Android Car Unit in the Touareg ?
http://backly.ru/go/1f7n
Hi
Thx for response.
Did you have experience with that Unit?
Can the Radio read the Door or/and Park Sensors?
Regard
Ben
ben97 said:
Hi There,
I have an VW Touareg I from Year 4/2008. It is the Facelift Model with CANBUS 2.0
Buy a Erisin 5056T Unit (PX5 / 2 GB) with integrated VW CANBUS Decoding Box (Decoder inside the Radio it´s not external Box).
Inside the Unit i try different Types of CANBUS settings (Default was 1 (VW / Scoda))
I am little Frustrated because of the limit Implementations of decoding CANBUS Signal inside this Unit.
Whats running:
ACC Signal (Radio turn on when i plug IN the Car Key and go into "Sleep Mode" when i pull the Key out.
Steering Wheel Keys: Only Loud / quiet / Phone / Mute keys are running (can´t change any Responsible of keys in the Unit) seems hard coded
Screen for Camera Switching if i switch my gear into Reverse
Whats not running:
NO , really no Data inside the vehicle App.
Reaktion of draw lines for the backwards Camera change/move only when i turn 100% left or Right on the Steering Wheel. And only for millimeters....
Is there any Experience with other Units that can better Communicate with VW Touareg?
Regards
Ben
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Same here, mine is a px3 android 7.1....... any luck? Have you been able to fix it? My backup diplay works perfectly on ford focus canbus setting....
Hi
Inside the Unit i try different Types of CANBUS settings (Default was 1 (VW / Scoda))#### do you still use this one??
I am little Frustrated because of the limit Implementations of decoding CANBUS Signal inside this Unit.
Whats running:
ACC Signal (Radio turn on when i plug IN the Car Key and go into "Sleep Mode" when i pull the Key out.
Steering Wheel Keys: Only Loud / quiet / Phone / Mute keys ##### mine just rhe volume works.
##### if i press Phone in the stering wheel it just play next sont
####the star key in the wheel does nothing
Can you help?
2006 touareg
Thank you
Hello guys,
I have the exact same problem with a Erisin PX5/4gb/Android 9.0, but I have a Treg from 2005 with Canbus 1.6. I have contacted Erisin, sent them my original wiring diagram and am waiting for their response. in the meantime I have the latest MCU updates, I'll try them today.
Have you tried the Canbus setting VW_TOUAREG(Hiworld) ? For me it doesn't work, but maybe for those of you who have Canbus 2.0 will work.
If I find a solution or I have any news I'll post them here, hope you do the same, maybe we will get this unit to decode all the signals from Can-Bus.
If anyone wants the updates images, just let me know and I'll upload them.
Regards,
O
Hi everyone, I hope to be writing in the appropriate section.
I bought an 8227L android car radio:
- http://imageupper.com/s12/1/6/M1568803747176376_8.jpg
- http://imageupper.com/s12/1/6/M1568803747176376_6.jpg
And I have a Toyota Yaris II series:
- http://imageupper.com/s12/1/6/M1568803747176376_7.jpg
This morning I successfully mounted the 8227L stereo in my car
- http://imageupper.com/s12/1/6/M1568803747176376_5.jpg
and everything works fine except the steering wheel controls.
The old original car radio (where steering wheel controls worked) was so connected:
- http://imageupper.com/s12/1/6/M1568803747176376_4.jpg
And when mounting the new autoradio 8227L, I just inserted the cables in the appropriate adapters.
The fact is that as soon as I enter the steering wheel configuration menu, I press START and select a command to associate with a physical steering wheel button, I get an error:
- http://imageupper.com/s12/1/6/M1568803747176376_3.jpg
even trying to reboot:
- http://imageupper.com/s12/1/6/M1568803747176376_2.jpg
- http://imageupper.com/s12/1/6/M1568803747176376_1.jpg
I still get the same error.
Can u help me in some way? Thank u all in advance!
As a first step, I would put a voltmeter onto the sense wires while pressing each of steering wheel buttons- to confirm that different voltages are available for the head unit to learn
This wil prove or otherwise that the wiring is in order.
Hi Pxdev,
First of all thank you very much for your attention.
At the moment I do not have the possibility to use a voltmeter, however I am sure that the steering wheel controls work (tested up to a few hours before the installation of the new radio) and also the installation of the new radio has simply consisted in disconnecting the 3 connectors ( http://imageupper.com/s12/1/6/M1568803747176376_4.jpg the blue and the two whites) visible in the picture and insert them in the appropriate adapters of the new car radio and insert a single connector in the special housing and everything worked, except, of course, for the steering wheel controls. Is there anything else I could try to do? Many thanks in advance.
Hi,
Have you bought it with the Canbus and cables for your car? I have the exact same unit and the steering wheel works well.
I get the same error , found a video saying ground one wire to radio ground and any one key wire ground radio but doesn't work. If anybody has any solution or troubleshoot guide please let me know .
Checked voltage , voltage from headunit around 3.5v , checked resisitance from each key shows different value for each key. Now what to do?
Did you find a solution to your problem as I'm having the same problem with mine. Same head unit with a Raise can bus installed. The steering wheel controls worked fine when I first bought the car but I decided to delete some of the unused apps and since then the steering wheel controls don't work. I can't even remember the name of the app I deleted. Any help would be grateful.
Seeing if anyone has any input here to possibly assist getting on of the new Joying Android 10 units working with the steering wheel controls on my 2008 350Z. I just cannot wrap my head around this. I don't believe my car has CANBUS but there seems to be no real concrete info. If not, I've read some conflicting items here. There's 2 plugs on the car harness that went to the stock radio that don't seem to have an equivalent to the aftermarket harness or unit. Can they be adapted somehow
There are universal adapters but I read that you have to splice and solder IN THE CAR for this **** to actually work? What a nightmare. Is there anything that I can pre-wire that just works? The AXXESS and PAC unit seem to require an engineering degree to figure out in addition to splicing the factory harness. This all seems so ridiculously difficult, there has to be a better way here.
level5music said:
Seeing if anyone has any input here to possibly assist getting on of the new Joying Android 10 units working with the steering wheel controls on my 2008 350Z. I just cannot wrap my head around this. I don't believe my car has CANBUS but there seems to be no real concrete info. If not, I've read some conflicting items here. There's 2 plugs on the car harness that went to the stock radio that don't seem to have an equivalent to the aftermarket harness or unit. Can they be adapted somehow
There are universal adapters but I read that you have to splice and solder IN THE CAR for this **** to actually work? What a nightmare. Is there anything that I can pre-wire that just works? The AXXESS and PAC unit seem to require an engineering degree to figure out in addition to splicing the factory harness. This all seems so ridiculously difficult, there has to be a better way here.
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What is your unit, post info including MCU, joying means zip.
Yes, please post additional information. It looks like there should be an AXXESS module for your steering wheel controls. You have to indicate which trim option you have...base audio, standard audio or Bose. Here:
https://axxessinterfaces.com/products?Year=2008&Make=Nissan&Model=350Z&TrimOption[]=Base%20audio&TrimOption[]=BOSE&TrimOption[]=Standard%20Audio
You can update the trim on that page to be specific to your car. I took a quick look at the instructions and CAN-HI and CAN-LO so it looks like it's possible yours has a Canbus interface. If yours does, not sure if the AXXESS modules will help. If you don't need a canbus module for anything else, then you could possibly use the AXXESS module just for the steering wheel controls on the canbus interface.
I used an AXXESS module for my 2012 Kia Sorento as the amplifier and sound required it. It came with a steering wheel control module as well. Took a bit, but finally set it up as needed. The best thing you can get is a schematic for your car as it will show details about your steering wheel buttons and how they communicate / are wired to the head unit. Get the schematic and you can set up the buttons. Mine, however, does not have or require canbus.
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What is your unit, post info including MCU, joying means zip.
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Can't find this info anywhere. Not in the box, not in the Amazon order, not in any of the menus etc. I'm super surprised how difficult it is to find.
mastrv said:
Yes, please post additional information. It looks like there should be an AXXESS module for your steering wheel controls. You have to indicate which trim option you have...base audio, standard audio or Bose. Here:
https://axxessinterfaces.com/products?Year=2008&Make=Nissan&Model=350Z&TrimOption[]=Base%20audio&TrimOption[]=BOSE&TrimOption[]=Standard%20Audio
You can update the trim on that page to be specific to your car. I took a quick look at the instructions and CAN-HI and CAN-LO so it looks like it's possible yours has a Canbus interface. If yours does, not sure if the AXXESS modules will help. If you don't need a canbus module for anything else, then you could possibly use the AXXESS module just for the steering wheel controls on the canbus interface.
I used an AXXESS module for my 2012 Kia Sorento as the amplifier and sound required it. It came with a steering wheel control module as well. Took a bit, but finally set it up as needed. The best thing you can get is a schematic for your car as it will show details about your steering wheel buttons and how they communicate / are wired to the head unit. Get the schematic and you can set up the buttons. Mine, however, does not have or require canbus.
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Thanks for the info, but this is nearly impossible for me to understand. The tech docs for this AXXESS make zero sense at all. I don't see any of the items pointed out in the documents on my harness for either the car or the radio. They simply do not exist. I don't get how there are zero plug and play options for this. I don't see any options for Canbus for my car either. Whenever I Google this, I only find info related to LS1 swaps (meaning those who put an older Corvette motor into their 350Z). So frustrating.
Well, let's start with a couple of questions:
Sounds like you've already installed the head unit...correct?
What is the Joying model number?
Do you have schematics for your car? If not, can you get them? These will definitively inform what wires to use. With the buttons on your steering wheel, like volume up and down, they went to your factory head unit to change the volume. This information either went directly to the factory head unit for it to interpret or went through the canbus where the factory radio also obtained this information
Did the harness you used have a can bus module? It's a small box with a lot of wires going in and out.
Whether or not you used or need a canbus module is another question. What kinds of other things did your old factory head unit do:
Did you have bluetooth phone built-in?
Rear view factory camera?
Rear factory radar?
If your factory head unit was fairly basic, then you may not need a canbus module. Please post a picture of your dash...maybe a couple with the gauges and another for the center stalk where the radio and the climate controls go...also a picture of the steering wheel buttons. These will help inform the likeliness of having or needing a canbus module.
Not sure if you know what a canbus module looks like. This page shows 5 different types/manufacturers of canbus modules:
CANBUS settings
cc2.teyes.ru
If you don't need a canbus module, you need to figure out which wires to use to connect to the Android head unit.
Thanks for your continued responses and help mastrv. I'll answer your questions as best I can:
Sounds like you've already installed the head unit - Yes. I had an older Joying unit since 2016. The same harness can be used so it was a simple swap out after the not-so-simple task of pulling the entire center console away from the car.
What is the Joying model number? - I don't see this anywhere at all. Not in About Device, not in other menus, not on the box, not on the unit, not on the Amazon order, not on the Amazon product page. I cannot find this info whatsoever, and I have looked for it thoroughly.
Do you have the schematics for your car? If not, can you get them? No, and maybe at best. I don't know what I'm looking for here. There are two plugs that went to the factory CD player that go unused on the aftermarket harness. It's absolutely mindboggling there isn't an adapter for this.
Did the harness you used have a can bus module? I don't know, but I don't see anything resembling this in my car.
Did you have bluetooth phone built-in? Nope.
Rear view factory camera? Nope.
Rear factory radar? Nope.
As for the rest, I'll need to do so over the weekend. The entire cernter console has to be removed in this car to replace the head unit. This is why it's absolutely not possible for me to do things like solder inside the vehicle, and majority of these items are tucked away. How does AXXESS or PAC expect users to install this garbage? There isn't any space for it, and they label wiring that doesn't even exist in this car! Why not just made a single adapter and be done with it?
mastrv said:
Well, let's start with a couple of questions:
Sounds like you've already installed the head unit...correct?
What is the Joying model number?
Do you have schematics for your car? If not, can you get them? These will definitively inform what wires to use. With the buttons on your steering wheel, like volume up and down, they went to your factory head unit to change the volume. This information either went directly to the factory head unit for it to interpret or went through the canbus where the factory radio also obtained this information
Did the harness you used have a can bus module? It's a small box with a lot of wires going in and out.
Whether or not you used or need a canbus module is another question. What kinds of other things did your old factory head unit do:
Did you have bluetooth phone built-in?
Rear view factory camera?
Rear factory radar?
If your factory head unit was fairly basic, then you may not need a canbus module. Please post a picture of your dash...maybe a couple with the gauges and another for the center stalk where the radio and the climate controls go...also a picture of the steering wheel buttons. These will help inform the likeliness of having or needing a canbus module.
Not sure if you know what a canbus module looks like. This page shows 5 different types/manufacturers of canbus modules:
CANBUS settings
cc2.teyes.ru
If you don't need a canbus module, you need to figure out which wires to use to connect to the Android head unit.
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From the information you've provided, it's most likely that you don't need a canbus at all...especially since your old unit didn't have one.
The only thing you're concerned about is the steering wheel controls, right?
Only thing that needs to be determined is which wires to be used for the steering wheel controls.
OK. I think I've found some good info for your model. The info doesn't have 2008 but it's for a 2007 and I think the 2008 is the same. This has information about the wires to use from the factory harness that connected to the old stereo:
https://my350z.com/forum/attachments/forced-induction/360447d1390787670-finally-repurpose-your-steering-wheel-buttons-for-forced-induction-infiniti350zradiobuttonboxgeneralinstallguider1-7.pdf
It's for something called a Radio Button Box for racing applications. The install details the wires to use. On pages 2 and 3 it shows a piece of a schematic and identifies wires for Remote Control A, Remote Control B and Remote Control Ground. These would directly attach to Key1 and Key2 on the Android Head unit and any ground. On page 3 it also talks about how to test measure with a multi-meter to make sure these are the correct wires. The wires are in M39 connector:
Remote Control A is pin 22 and coloured R/G, Red and Green
Remote Control B is pin 23 and coloured OR, Orange
Remote Control Ground is pin 25 Y, Yellow
There is also a picture of the connector and it shows the wires from back and front. I think it shows the connector for an Infiniti G35, which is identical to the 350Z except for the wire colours.
I think you may not need any module and can connect those directly to the Android head unit...and then use the steering wheel control app to map them as you like.
FYI, the picture of the steering wheel controls includes a rocker for Volume up/down, buttons for Mode beside a Power button and a Prev/Next rocker.
FYI, the my350z site has much information and there is an Audio/Video section:
Audio & Video - MY350Z.COM - Nissan 350Z and 370Z Forum Discussion
Audio & Video - 350Z Mobile entertainment and other electronics
my350z.com
mastrv said:
From the information you've provided, it's most likely that you don't need a canbus at all...especially since your old unit didn't have one.
The only thing you're concerned about is the steering wheel controls, right?
Only thing that needs to be determined is which wires to be used for the steering wheel controls.
OK. I think I've found some good info for your model. The info doesn't have 2008 but it's for a 2007 and I think the 2008 is the same. This has information about the wires to use from the factory harness that connected to the old stereo:
https://my350z.com/forum/attachments/forced-induction/360447d1390787670-finally-repurpose-your-steering-wheel-buttons-for-forced-induction-infiniti350zradiobuttonboxgeneralinstallguider1-7.pdf
It's for something called a Radio Button Box for racing applications. The install details the wires to use. On pages 2 and 3 it shows a piece of a schematic and identifies wires for Remote Control A, Remote Control B and Remote Control Ground. These would directly attach to Key1 and Key2 on the Android Head unit and any ground. On page 3 it also talks about how to test measure with a multi-meter to make sure these are the correct wires. The wires are in M39 connector:
Remote Control A is pin 22 and coloured R/G, Red and Green
Remote Control B is pin 23 and coloured OR, Orange
Remote Control Ground is pin 25 Y, Yellow
There is also a picture of the connector and it shows the wires from back and front. I think it shows the connector for an Infiniti G35, which is identical to the 350Z except for the wire colours.
I think you may not need any module and can connect those directly to the Android head unit...and then use the steering wheel control app to map them as you like.
FYI, the picture of the steering wheel controls includes a rocker for Volume up/down, buttons for Mode beside a Power button and a Prev/Next rocker.
FYI, the my350z site has much information and there is an Audio/Video section:
Audio & Video - MY350Z.COM - Nissan 350Z and 370Z Forum Discussion
Audio & Video - 350Z Mobile entertainment and other electronics
my350z.com
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Thanks again mastvr! Still really confused on this. So, my harness to the Joying unit has a pink Key 1 and brown Key 2 wires. What I don't get here is how I'm connecting to the car here. Soldering is pretty much off the table. I'm also very leary of cutting anything factory in the vehicle, although I guess if I HAVE to, maybe I would. My apprehension here is that if I cut something, and it's wrong, I'm going to end up with a hacked up factory harness that I neither have the skills, space, equipment or otherwise know-how to fix. That's why I sincerely wish there was something I could just adapt in a plug-and-play fashion. So completely frustrated with this.
If you don't have a connector for the plug in the link I provided, you can always use a t-tap connector so you don't have to cut it...or maybe there's some module you can use.
Anyway, there's enough info to make sure those are the correct wires. So, good luck with the rest.