Hi all,
Currently looking for an upgrade from my Moto G and have a specific list of requirements (long-ish battery life, cheap-ish, ideally fast charging, ideally ANT+, ideally waterproof, accurate GPS for tracking runs) which the S5 seems to meet well. Only thing I dont think I could live with is TouchWiz (and the assosciated lag I would expect it would bring with it).
My question: how is CM running on these devices with regards stability and force closes etc. Can live with a small dip in camera quality and having never had a fingerprint scanner I wont miss it but really need a rock solid, stable device. Is there a better alternative out there (am also closely considering the Zuk - but not waterproof and possibly patchy GPS - and the Moto X Play - slightly more expensive and reports of lag)?
I'm currently running CM13 on my KLTE, and it honestly seems fine.
Battery life is just under 4hrs SOT.
It charges pretty fast IMO (About an hour and a little bit with a constant 1800mA @ 4.5V)
Though was I've read in a quick Google search is that CM doesn't support ANT+ ever since the s4 branch.
Never had issues when the phone's been blessed with water, Its a pretty tight seal all around.
GPS is accurate. I usually get a fix within the first ten seconds. Mind you I use GPS Status to download AGPS info to help.
I rarely get force closes but there are the occasional soft reboots with the phone, which seems to put it in a boot-loop when it does. But that could be my configuration of Xposed and other modifications that do that.
i dont like the in-use battery life at all, deep sleep life is insanely improved on CM13 i assume due to doze, you can buy third party extra large batteries that are also a replacement for the back cover
cm-12.1-20151226-NIGHTLY-klte = quite stable, think i had only a couple minor bugs, no crashes, my baseband is a little old, i tried some gps app from fdroid during a walk & it was as if the calibration kept changing... i passed the same spot more than once, it would be too far north one time then too far southeast another time & so on, but maybe it was storing literal data points (some other apps, especially map apps i would assume they might auto align themselves to roads), crashed the camera when using opencamera too fast or switching between it & stock camera, opencamera couldnt do 60 or 120fps videos even though the option was set
cm-13.0-20160116-NIGHTLY-klte = turning flashlight off kills camera (& the flashlight tile) until reboot, i was going through menus fast or something, the status bar crashed & then soft reboot was frozen on the loading face icon, i was hoping snapdragoncamera was enabled cuz i see it in changelogs, but i still see stock camera unfortunately...
charging is quite fast, from 0 to ~80% at least (this is normal for about every device anyway)
i havent tried any other versions yet, i dont have gapps, only been web browsing in lightning browser (from fdroid), trying kernel adiutor, notepad, little bit of camera, i dont have a SIM card yet, hope it works fine...
i believe i saw a modified TW rom that keeps the TW framework, but visually tries to be AOSP, the purpose of course is to be able to use the samsung camera & some of the other proprietary apps/features
My build is a KLTEusc smg900r4, with cm13, on first boot I had issues with the access points to the mobile network, but after I input one access point it found the rest on its own, only other issue is when sending long text messages it doesn't go through from some reason, overall very proud of it, much better than touchwiz
I tried to make a decision reading this forum but everyone had a different idea. Below you can see what I need. I beg of you. Please do suggest the best software combo I could use to achieve the following multitasking (at least those 4): Listening to Spotify, Internet Browsing, Whatsapp messaging and VOIP/sip (a service that must run all the time), BUT! without having my hands burned from the cpu/battery's temperature, or at most just 2 hours of a battery lifetime while doing that.
1) I do not care if my phone graphics turn into pacman or Android version 0.1beta.
2) I do not care if I lose the entire Cam's functionality.
3) I do not care about unlocking with double knock
4) I do not care about IR control
5) I do not care about LED functionality
6) I do not care about speakers sound quality (I could even get used to 8 bit sound or low volume sound. I can hear very well xD)
7) I do not care if my phone self restarts randomly 2-3 times a day.
but
1) I do care if phone shutdowns, or totally stops responding, or services hang without auto-restarting.
2) I do care if 3g/4g/data stop functioning
3) I do care about flash functionality
4) I do care about 3.5 jack headphones sound
Thank youuu!
I would suggest using the stock euro 30f Rom combine with dorimanxs 11.1 kernel in battery mode.
I use my phone similarly with this combination and I can assure you, it is the best.
On cm13 stock kernel my phone is always cool and the SOT is 5.5h+
IceAndroid_g2 said:
On cm13 stock kernel my phone is always cool and the SOT is 5.5h+
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Have you tried Bliss ROM to compare to CM13?
Install the latest lollipop version stock rom for your variant, debloat, install dorimanx kernel, install amplify and greenify. And you are all set.
Or you can use any custom rom with dorimanx , amplify and greenify.
With these, you will get at most 5 hour SoT.
LMK if you need further assistance.
FXP AOSP Website
AOSP_M_161203_satsuki.zip is the build/ROM i tested
Working:
Camera - Semi buggy, upside down.
Wifi - Rather solid. Offered up 200Mbps on a speedtest
Bluetooth - Added wireless earbuds and they sounded crystal clear
Finger Print reader - Working (setup and tested 100%)
Battery life was pretty good during the time i was testing it. It only dropped 5% for the 2 hours i tested it.
I would call this one 90% ready for prime time. Once they settle a couple more issues with the camera it should be good to go!
I flashed This Camera Mod and it seems to fix most of the camera issues while adding features. There is still some inconsistency with it launching but it was mostly good to go. All the images looked clear and the camera was 90% responsive to everything.
This post is 100% informational so others know about their builds. I am in no way part of this group in any way!
I confirmed this running in E6883. I think there are some problems on boot.img, since I cannot see any boot screen. Other than that, the phone boots up well w/ GApps.
SD Card is NOT supported.
Fingerprint sensor seldomly works. I had very hard time getting the sensor to recognize my fingerprints.
I had no issues with camera based on the given stock camera app. Quality is terrible but I had no orientation, discoloring problems.
Mobile data is random. Sometimes I get LTE, sometimes I stay at HSPA, sometimes I get no mobile data. Phone call works great though.
I can confirm there are no problems with Wi-Fi and Bluetooth.
If anyone can post a link with working boot/kernel as well as TWRP that works with this ROM, that would be great.
Hello everyone,
As Android 10 and above seem to be a bit sluggish for this device, I decided to make an Android 9 LineageOS 16.0 build for my soon 9 year old SM-T800 tablet. It seems to be much smoother and stable then Android 10 and even while doing heavy web browsing, watching YouTube in 1080p or using Google Maps navigation in satellite mode, nothing crashed for me. The only issue I found is that the tablet gets a bit hot when actively using it. To sorta mitigate the issue, I recommend rooting the device, installing a kernel manager and limiting the CPU frequency to 1700MHz (where default is 1900MHz). The ROM itself has been very stable to use, only camera video recording and fingerprint scanner are not working as of now.
What works?
Boot
Wi-Fi
Bluetooth
Front and back cameras (photos only)
Video playback
Audio
Sensors
Flash
GPS
Microphone
What doesn't work?
Video recording in camera
Fingerprint scanner
Bluetooth is randomly hanging up when connecting peripherals
Offline charging
You tell me the rest
This build is SELinux Permissive!
Flashing instructions (clean flash):
Ensure you're on the latest Marshmallow firmware for your tablet
Use LATEST OFFICIAL TWRP, or LineageOS recovery (attached with the ROM)
Wipe Data and System partitions from recovery
Flash ROM zip from internal storage, SD Card, USB OTG or ADB sideload
Flash GApps (optional, my recommendation is OpenGApps 9.0 arm pico or nano)
Flash Magisk (optional)
Reboot and voila!
Otherwise, this ROM is good for users who wants better smoothness and stability and doesn't want to downgrade all the way down to Android 7.1.
If anyone wants a build for a model different than chagallwifi, tag me and I can try to build (You'll have to test it yourself!).
Get the builds from here:
MediaFire
MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.
www.mediafire.com
Sources:
AOSP: https://source.android.com/ (the base for everything)
LineageOS: https://github.com/LineageOS (the ROM)
Exynos5420: https://github.com/exynos5420 (Device, kernel and vendor sources)
Screenshots attached below
Screenshots of the build:
Do you plan on fixing the fingerprint sensor anytime soon? I use it on the LineageOS 17.1 build pretty often
Penguin76 said:
Hello everyone,
As Android 10 and above seem to be a bit sluggish for this device, I decided to make an Android 9 LineageOS 16.0 build for my soon 9 year old SM-T800 tablet. It seems to be much smoother and stable then Android 10 and even while doing heavy web browsing, watching YouTube in 1080p or using Google Maps navigation in satellite mode, nothing crashed for me. The only issue I found is that the tablet gets a bit hot when actively using it. To sorta mitigate the issue, I recommend rooting the device, installing a kernel manager and limiting the CPU frequency to 1700MHz (where default is 1900MHz). The ROM itself has been very stable to use, only camera video recording and fingerprint scanner are not working as of now.
What works?
Boot
Wi-Fi
Bluetooth
Front and back cameras (photos only)
Video playback
Audio
Sensors
Flash
GPS
Microphone
What doesn't work?
Video recording in camera
Fingerprint scanner
You tell me the rest
This build is SELinux Permissive!
Flashing instructions (clean flash):
Ensure you're on the latest Marshmallow firmware for your tablet
Use LATEST OFFICIAL TWRP, or LineageOS recovery (attached with the ROM)
Wipe Data and System partitions from recovery
Flash ROM zip from internal storage, SD Card, USB OTG or ADB sideload
Flash GApps (optional, my recommendation is OpenGApps 9.0 arm pico or nano)
Flash Magisk (optional)
Reboot and voila!
Otherwise, this ROM is good for users who wants better smoothness and stability and doesn't want to downgrade all the way down to Android 7.1.
If anyone wants a build for a model different than chagallwifi, tag me and I can try to build (You'll have to test it yourself!).
Get the builds from here:
MediaFire
MediaFire is a simple to use free service that lets you put all your photos, documents, music, and video in a single place so you can access them anywhere and share them everywhere.
www.mediafire.com
Sources:
AOSP: https://source.android.com/ (the base for everything)
LineageOS: https://github.com/LineageOS (the ROM)
Exynos5420: https://github.com/exynos5420 (Device, kernel and vendor sources)
Screenshots attached below
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For cpu temperatures/speed limits,
Which cpu govenor in the kernel did you use?
You could build a version with the kernel limiting to 1700Mhz so people need to mess around with root.
I recommend upgrading the thermal pads inside the tablet as well
bluess57 said:
For cpu temperatures/speed limits,
Which cpu govenor in the kernel did you use?
You could build a version with the kernel limiting to 1700Mhz so people need to mess around with root.
I recommend upgrading the thermal pads inside the tablet as well
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The current governor I used is schedutil, I'll try setting it to interactive and limiting the CPU frequency next build
Zakaria2328 said:
Do you plan on fixing the fingerprint sensor anytime soon? I use it on the LineageOS 17.1 build pretty often
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I currently can't find the cause of the sensor not working. It reaches the fingerprint setup successfully, but holding or sliding my finger on the home button doesn't seem to do anything.
Hi Just a quick question.. my understanding is that android 9 does not support dark mode, that your screenshot almost seem to suggest that it does.
my reason for asking is that I am visually impaired, and really can't read anything on a white background. anyway just wanted clarification before I try out this rom.
Cheers
Quidam67 said:
Hi Just a quick question.. my understanding is that android 9 does not support dark mode, that your screenshot almost seem to suggest that it does.
my reason for asking is that I am visually impaired, and really can't read anything on a white background. anyway just wanted clarification before I try out this rom.
Cheers
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Hi! Android 9 has a partial dark mode. The built in system apps as well as the system UI is dark, but third party apps do not support this dark theme and are light by the default. Many third party apps can be manually set to dark theme.
Penguin76 said:
Hi! Android 9 has a partial dark mode. The built in system apps as well as the system UI is dark, but third party apps do not support this dark theme and are light by the default. Many third party apps can be manually set to dark theme.
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thanks, I think I'll give it a crack, i'm using the latest Lineage 20 build from another thread and to be honest it's super buggy lol. If this doesn't work out I can always go back to the 17.1 build which was actually pretty stable, but as you point out it's a bit on the sluggish side. Cheers
Or you might try unofficial LineageOS 18.1 (A11) which perfectly supports dark theme. I'm running it on my SM-T805 without any problems.
Cheers
Toscha
The problem
toscha42 said:
Or you might try unofficial LineageOS 18.1 (A11) which perfectly supports dark theme. I'm running it on my SM-T805 without any problems.
Cheers
Toscha
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The problem I found with A10+ ROMs is that some slightly graphics heavier apps or even Google Maps in the browser can crash itself or even lock up the tablet completely.
For those graphics apps I can't tell. But Google Maps I use a lot and it's absolutely stable.
Cheers
Toscha
toscha42 said:
For those graphics apps I can't tell. But Google Maps I use a lot and it's absolutely stable.
Cheers
Toscha
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The app itself works fine, but the Google Maps website will likely crash when it's opened in a browser when starting to navigate around the map. And there are many other websites that do crash the browser as well.
Penguin76 said:
The problem
The problem I found with A10+ ROMs is that some slightly graphics heavier apps or even Google Maps in the browser can crash itself or even lock up the tablet completely.
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Watching youtube works fine, as that's all i do with this tablet now, other than checking my email. Setting up the e-mail did freeze the tablet a couple of times
hello,
So I tried out this rom and wanted to report back my findings.
I found it to be both stable and fast, but there were a few issues, which has led me back to 17.1 LuisROM which given my particular needs really does seem to be the best option. I have actually tried both18 and 20, but neither of them are as stable as17.1, at least based on the particular set of apps I use.
Anyway, the issues I had were:
1) the partial dark mode support was certainly not bad, but given the fact that apps don't follow the system theme, and I could find no way of setting the Google app to dark mode, it was less than ideal. this is no fault of the build at all It's just a limitation of being Android 9, and I imagine for most people it would not be an issue nor a reason not to use this ROM
2) I had a weird issue when I shut the tablet down and plugged it in to power source. The battery icon showed and and then the tablet froze up, so that if I disconnected it from the power source the battery icon still continued to display and the only way to boot it back up was to press and hold the home key, volume down and power. this would seem to suggest there is an issue with the Kernal/ boot loader.
3) I have the official Samsung case with built-in keyboard, but there appeared to be a problem with bluetooth and I simply could not get it to connect. this was the deciding factor like to go back to 17.1
Cheers
b
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Do you have a link to LineageOS 18.1 705
Quidam67 said:
hello,
So I tried out this rom and wanted to report back my findings.
I found it to be both stable and fast, but there were a few issues, which has led me back to 17.1 LuisROM which given my particular needs really does seem to be the best option. I have actually tried both18 and 20, but neither of them are as stable as17.1, at least based on the particular set of apps I use.
Anyway, the issues I had were:
1) the partial dark mode support was certainly not bad, but given the fact that apps don't follow the system theme, and I could find no way of setting the Google app to dark mode, it was less than ideal. this is no fault of the build at all It's just a limitation of being Android 9, and I imagine for most people it would not be an issue nor a reason not to use this ROM
2) I had a weird issue when I shut the tablet down and plugged it in to power source. The battery icon showed and and then the tablet froze up, so that if I disconnected it from the power source the battery icon still continued to display and the only way to boot it back up was to press and hold the home key, volume down and power. this would seem to suggest there is an issue with the Kernal/ boot loader.
3) I have the official Samsung case with built-in keyboard, but there appeared to be a problem with bluetooth and I simply could not get it to connect. this was the deciding factor like to go back to 17.1
Cheers
b
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Hello, I'm sorry for the issues you experienced with the ROM. I checked both of the issues and the offline charging issue seems to be there for me too. As you mentioned, it might be related to kernel, but I sadly can't find the actual cause of it as I'm still pretty new new to the world of Android development and I'm still learning how everything works. The Bluetooth issue is something I have now experienced as well. I tried connecting a pair of BT earbuds and they seem to be stuck at connecting at the Bluetooth page in settings. For now I'll update the known issues with those two bugs and maybe one day I'll find out what causes them. And by the way, since you now installed Android 10 on your tablet, how is it for browsing sites? Do sites crash often? Since this is the main thing I use the tablet for (and occasionally watching YouTube and navigation in the car).
Cheers
Penguin76
Penguin76 said:
Hello, I'm sorry for the issues you experienced with the ROM. I checked both of the issues and the offline charging issue seems to be there for me too. As you mentioned, it might be related to kernel, but I sadly can't find the actual cause of it as I'm still pretty new new to the world of Android development and I'm still learning how everything works. The Bluetooth issue is something I have now experienced as well. I tried connecting a pair of BT earbuds and they seem to be stuck at connecting at the Bluetooth page in settings. For now I'll update the known issues with those two bugs and maybe one day I'll find out what causes them. And by the way, since you now installed Android 10 on your tablet, how is it for browsing sites? Do sites crash often? Since this is the main thing I use the tablet for (and occasionally watching YouTube and navigation in the car).
Cheers
Penguin76
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Klimtwifi build?
Penguin76 said:
Hello, I'm sorry for the issues you experienced with the ROM. I checked both of the issues and the offline charging issue seems to be there for me too. As you mentioned, it might be related to kernel, but I sadly can't find the actual cause of it as I'm still pretty new new to the world of Android development and I'm still learning how everything works. The Bluetooth issue is something I have now experienced as well. I tried connecting a pair of BT earbuds and they seem to be stuck at connecting at the Bluetooth page in settings. For now I'll update the known issues with those two bugs and maybe one day I'll find out what causes them. And by the way, since you now installed Android 10 on your tablet, how is it for browsing sites? Do sites crash often? Since this is the main thing I use the tablet for (and occasionally watching YouTube and navigation in the car).
Cheers
Penguin76
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Hey there,
I wouldn't exactly call myself a power user, but I have not suffered a single website crash on the particular build I am using, Which I believe was created by a very knowledge Developer last year. It might be worth noting that I use Samsung Internet browser, Which in my opinion offers by far the best overall experience, Including a flawless dark mode option that seems to work for every website.
One thing I will mention about the spilled is that the developer seems to have gone AWOL and the download link to his builds no longer works. That said, I have a copy of the build on my google drive, download link SM-T800 Lineage 17.1
Give it a spin and see what you think, Overall I'm very happy with its stability and performance. Because of my visual impairment I mostly use audio based apps, such as Google Podcast, Audible, Poweranp Pro, But I also occasionally use Newpipe and VLC player and again, have not had any issues.
PS Good on you for creating your own build, I almost considered trying to do it myself but it's just too much to take on considering I can hardly see the screen lol
LuckyTheCoder said:
Klimtwifi build?
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I can try to do a build for klimtwifi today