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I tried the initial NAND build upon release but had to go back to Winmo for the following reasons;
Higher battery drain than Duttys Family Rom
Led stuck on all the time after a message
No screen rotation
Crashing playing .wma files
Contacts listed by first name, no way to change it without editing it all.
Random freezes, slow to respond after standby, low volume in calls even after trying the speaker fix, g sensor would not calibrate.
All in all, enough to put me off. However, having gone back to winmo I can see that android is the way I want to go.
So, simple question; which build, if any, has the most of these issues fixed particularly battery drain and rotation? I am not bothered about getting 'under the hood' to tweak everything just a nice clean stable ROM with no fancy UI tweaks.
And I have searched on this for days but there are many, many opinions in hundreds of pages of comments. Thought I would ask here for the benefit of anyone else looking for a nice clean android build.
I have only tried the CM build (call me a fanboy), and it's really stable. I have noticed the 60mA battery drain still happens at times, but using Quick Reboot (free on market) one or sometimes multiple times fixes this without too much effort.
Speed, stability and features (well, the ones I use, didn't do a thorough test on everything) are all good.
I will no doubt slap my forehead for this but what is the CM build?
Has any build so far fixed the battery drain and sensor properly?
Cynagen mod =cm
I'm using MDJ's gingerbread its very stable and plenty of free space but no gps usb or camcorder apart from that smoorhest Android build I've ever used and one used most
i suggest NexusHD 1.9 NAND version, it's very stable, smooth and fast and i have no problem with it. just works well ;-)
Are these suggestions based just on personal preference or do they address those issues I had in the first post i.e battery drain, lack of rotation (G-Sensor problem I guess), LED stuck etc?
Appreciate your input all the same but I feel like reflashing Android today and want the best ROM...if those issues are fixed.
CM based or Nexus1. I think that until they are optimized, Sense are a no-go for Nand : too heavy, too big. You will be left with 50-40mo for apps and that includes apps2sd. Count on the double with CM and N1 Nand's. And in terms of battery life, G-sensor, they work perfectly.
The Led seems to give problem to most of the Nand for the moment...
Downloading the Nexus 1 rom now, I can live with the led if sensor and battery are better, especially as it is so easy to get back to winmo if needed.
I Know Ill Slap Myself Too For Asking Nooby Questions...but
Does it Matter What Radio i Use To Flash nand android as long as its above 2.08.whatever number ....i forgot....will it still work
I think I am on 2.50.14 and it installed like a charm. Absolutely great Rom; getting 2ma in idle and everything I wanted works fine.
Two things though;
1. LED doesn't blink to notify of messages
2. .wma files don't play (maybe that is normal for Android).
Just one thing to bear in mind (I didn't). As this is non-sense you cannot use HTC sync so I spent quite a while getting my contacts back in via business card from Outlook.
Great rom so far though. Nice and clean UI.
splinters69 said:
I think I am on 2.50.14 and it installed like a charm. Absolutely great Rom; getting 2ma in idle and everything I wanted works fine.
Two things though;
1. LED doesn't blink to notify of messages
2. .wma files don't play (maybe that is normal for Android).
Just one thing to bear in mind (I didn't). As this is non-sense you cannot use HTC sync so I spent quite a while getting my contacts back in via business card from Outlook.
Great rom so far though. Nice and clean UI.
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Sync contacts with gmail then it stores them in the clouds
Try HD2ONE froyo cm 6.1.1 nand.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10246269&postcount=228
It supports using your existing cm6 data.img on sd card. This alleviates the issue of low device storage.
This was rock solid as an sd build and better on nand.
I'll be sticking with this until gingerbread has all features working.
Hey I just had a few questions when it came to flashing a custom Nougat ROM at the moment. If anyone could answer them that would be great I am on stock Marshmallow right now and not rooted or anything. But I am thinking about flashing a custom ROM if there are benefits.
What features do we lose when we are coming from stock? (Moto Display/Gestures mainly)
How's the battery life compared to stock?
Any issues calls/texts/signal/wifi/bluetooth?
Is there an audio problem with most of the ROMs?
How is the camera on Nougat?
Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance to those that respond
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Hey I just had a few questions when it came to flashing a custom Nougat ROM at the moment. If anyone could answer them that would be great I am on stock Marshmallow right now and not rooted or anything. But I am thinking about flashing a custom ROM if there are benefits.
What features do we lose when we are coming from stock? (Moto Display/Gestures mainly)
How's the battery life compared to stock?
Any issues calls/texts/signal/wifi/bluetooth?
Is there an audio problem with most of the ROMs?
How is the camera on Nougat?
Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance to those that respond
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Whether or not you will benefit from a custom ROM will depend on you and your expectations.
Ambient display is the alternative/replacement to Moto display and some ROMs and add-ons allow for gestures.
As far as your other questions, these vary from ROM to ROM and user to user and the set ups they have (apps, kernel, customization, etc.) The best thing to do is read through the threads for the various nougat Roms and determine for yourself if they will meet your specific requirements...then test them for yourself.
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Whether or not you will benefit from a custom ROM will depend on you and your expectations.
Ambient display is the alternative/replacement to Moto display and some ROMs and add-ons allow for gestures.
As far as your other questions, these vary from ROM to ROM and user to user and the set ups they have (apps, kernel, customization, etc.) The best thing to do is read through the threads for the various nougat Roms and determine for yourself if they will meet your specific requirements...then test them for yourself.
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Thanks for the reply. I know I made a really big generalization here I was just wondering with other people's mileage whether Nougat helped there battery life or not, etc. But thank you
Here's the lowdown:
As far as features, you would probably gain a few that you don't really need (like the ability to use themes, and control the audio levels) and battery will be roughly the same, if not a little worse usually (stock ROM is more optimized). A few features will be slightly different (like ambient display instead of moto display) and you'll also gain access to the hidden LED inside the top speaker of this phone. That's right, the MXPE has a notification LED! Can you even imagine? But it's there!
LineageOS is a good choice if you want to test out nougat, it's very stable at this point and is easily the cleanest ROM in my opinion (no bloat, feels like stock android). Battery life is pretty good but it drains a lot more on standby than stock does. Remember when you flash a non-stock rom you will also have to flash google apps. I like the stock or "super" options because they also give you the pixel launcher.
Root adds a whole new world of possibilities, with the ability to modify or add functionality you wouldn't normally be able to access. Like changing CPU governors (for better battery or better performance). LineageOS comes unrooted, and personally I keep it that way for maximum app compatibility (Pokémon Go, many streaming video services, and some banking apps don't work with rooted devices). If you wanted to play with root you could flash the root .zip file or just flash supersu like I think most people on XDA do.
As far as issues, every ROM has different quirks. I can tell you that often times the hardware drivers for custom ROMs can be hit-or-miss. Right now LineageOS (and anything based on LOS) is very stable and doesn't have many bugs, but that can change anytime. Any time your ROM updates it could potentially add a new quirk/bug. As of the latest nightly (2/21/17) I have not seen any significant bugs. No issues with Bluetooth or cell service (AT&T) and all gestures work (twist for camera, chop for flashlight, wave hand over screen to silence ring, ambient display, etc) GPS also works well. The only quirks I've noticed on this build is the camera takes a little longer to start up (sometimes up to 7 seconds) and occasionally my cell signal will say I have zero bars for a few seconds even though I still have service (no dropped calls/dropped web pages/etc).
Sean89us said:
Here's the lowdown:
As far as features, you would probably gain a few that you don't really need (like the ability to use themes, and control the audio levels) and battery will be roughly the same, if not a little worse usually (stock ROM is more optimized). A few features will be slightly different (like ambient display instead of moto display) and you'll also gain access to the hidden LED inside the top speaker of this phone. That's right, the MXPE has a notification LED! Can you even imagine? But it's there!
LineageOS is a good choice if you want to test out nougat, it's very stable at this point and is easily the cleanest ROM in my opinion (no bloat, feels like stock android). Battery life is pretty good but it drains a lot more on standby than stock does. Remember when you flash a non-stock rom you will also have to flash google apps. I like the stock or "super" options because they also give you the pixel launcher.
Root adds a whole new world of possibilities, with the ability to modify or add functionality you wouldn't normally be able to access. Like changing CPU governors (for better battery or better performance). LineageOS comes unrooted, and personally I keep it that way for maximum app compatibility (Pokémon Go, many streaming video services, and some banking apps don't work with rooted devices). If you wanted to play with root you could flash the root .zip file or just flash supersu like I think most people on XDA do.
As far as issues, every ROM has different quirks. I can tell you that often times the hardware drivers for custom ROMs can be hit-or-miss. Right now LineageOS (and anything based on LOS) is very stable and doesn't have many bugs, but that can change anytime. Any time your ROM updates it could potentially add a new quirk/bug. As of the latest nightly (2/21/17) I have not seen any significant bugs. No issues with Bluetooth or cell service (AT&T) and all gestures work (twist for camera, chop for flashlight, wave hand over screen to silence ring, ambient display, etc) GPS also works well. The only quirks I've noticed on this build is the camera takes a little longer to start up (sometimes up to 7 seconds) and occasionally my cell signal will say I have zero bars for a few seconds even though I still have service (no dropped calls/dropped web pages/etc).
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Thanks for all the information that really helped me out. I will most likely stay stock due to the fact that battery life is important to me. It's hard to get good battery when the phone is in your pocket and doze doesn't work during movement.
I have been switching between different ROMs in the past four months, I'm now a long time redmi 3 user since I have mine since it came out in 2015, even though is smashed a lot I have no plans for a new phone at this time LOL
Let's go to the point
Resurrection Remix 5.8.5
A nice ROM, everything works right after installing and is pretty smooth, in terms of customization this one has everything you can imagine and you can't too
what did I like
The posibilities of tweaking the status bar, plus it gives your phone a longer life span in terms of software, as it will get longer support.
Doze mode
What I did not like
UI Lagging/stuttering eventually, when using chrome and typing something in a webpage is such a nightmare (this happens always), as the text takes up to 5 seconds to appear
CPU Sleeping bugs sometimes, soemtimes it takes a longer time to wake the processor, causing an unbearable lag, is eventually fixed by locking and unlocking the screen again. and sometimes i have to force reboot
Bluetooth battery barely shows on random devices, and is not accurate
Lockscreen (I like AOSP a lot, but the lockscreen replacing your wallpaper when music is playing is just ridiculous)
Camera lacks some image quality
MIUI 8.1.1.0 by Xiaomi.eu
The ROM I probably will keep using for a really long time, has no rival in terms of smoothness, and offers longer battery time no matter what you use it for, and what is better, without letting you down on performance. Even is on Lollipop, this one keeps pleasing me
What I Like
Performance, the UI is smooth and launcher never lags
Battery life, I'm a heavy user and this by far lasts longer than any other, is obvious at this was specially designed for the chip it runs on
Integrated Clean Master/CM Security/Whatever it is
Themes, endless personalization out-of-the-box
specific Xposed Framework for MIUI (by @SolarWarez) newer versions have always conflicted with themes and modules
XMIUI by the same developer, no words needed, is the GravityBox for MIUI plus extra functionality
Lockscreen, I like the album art over the screen, not as background and the player as notification
Hidden CPU power mode selection (Use QuiclShortcutMaker to access it, removed on newer versions above 8.1.1.0)
What I did not like
I'm using a non OEM replacement display and very often I have to force-reboot (in RR it bugs but at least I can get to the reboot option and reboot safely)
Could be Marshmallow at least
Some weird bugs when using Magisk (I use system root as I don't give a damn about SafetyNet)
After dalvik cleaning some apps have a "rough start"
I remember having the best battery life (with the screen off) with RR-UNTEST, but eventually I gave up and budged myself back over to MIUI 9. There's honestly not much reason to use MIUI 8 outside of being able to use xMIUI, but if you're fine without what it brings then honestly the xiaomi.eu rom is pretty much the best one to go for. This phone is essentially good as dead now, unfortunately. If I remember correctly, Xiaomi have announced that it's not going to be receiving a major version upgrade (i.e. no MIUI 10) and because of it running on Lollipop, it's stuck on the January 2017 security patches. Custom ROM development has largely stopped completely, save for the build bots that are still chugging away (see: LineageOS 14, AOKP and Mokee) and a stable version of LOS 15 that doesn't haemorrhage battery extremely quickly hasn't come despite the long wait. There's no reason to not stick with standard MIUI 9 now and to be honest, soon as I've saved up enough, I'm going to be jumping ship to a different phone.
In my case, best for R3 is MIUI 9.5 from MIUI.eu. Great, great battery life and all work like a charm. There is no any single lag/bug on my phone.
Tried many custom roms, but always back to MIUI.eu.
I got little worm in my ass and want to try RR 5.8.5 with chtholly kernel and AOKP with same kernel and GovTuner...but I know that will be back to MIUI.eu
Hi All, I have purchased a Mi phone for the first time ever – the Redmi Note 6 pro. The hardware specs are amazing and so is the quality of the hardware, but the MIUI is just too pathetic.
I was earlier using a Moto G4 plus running on Android Nougat 7. I wonder why anyone has to build a skin above Android, which runs so well!
I feel I have actually been downgraded by switching to Redmi Note 6 instead of getting an upgrade! Basic functions as listed below are missing in MIUI 10 compared to my good old G4 Plus:
1. Does not have a section for frequently called contacts (have to save nos. on speed dial and remember them like old days)
2. Not able to easily block calls – in my G4 plus, I could simply long press the contact and block it, now I have to go to settings and block contact… such a long process
3. Above blocking of contacts is complicated for SMS also unlike my G4 plus
4. There is no cast icon (screen mirroring) in the notification slider – have to go in to settings to do so
5. Not able to set separate ringtones for each app like GMail, my office email, etc (this could be done in MIUI 9 – checked on my friend’s Redmi Note 4)
6. My employer provides me VMWare boxer as the enterprise email client, it vibrates when new email arrives but does not play notification sound. Furthermore, although the app allows changing the ringtone, on trying to do so the phone nothing happens
7. Notification icons are not appearing on the top left corner of the screen
8. Does not display no internet on wifi, phone just automatically switches to Data – but I cannot keep checking whether my phone is on wifi or data all the time (in G4 plus, it used to indicate no internet on wifi with an exclamation symbol on the wifi icon in the notification bar)
9. Quick charge 3.0 takes 2 hours to charge the phone to 100%. The G4 plus, although with a smaller battery of 3000mAH used to charge in approximately 50 mins, why should 1000mAH more take almost 1 hour more?
10. Vodafone VoLTE is not support on this latest device.
In the last week I have spent hours browsing forums understanding how to fix issues or find alternative ways to work out. I never had to do so for my G4 plus.
I really regret the decision of buying a Xiaomi device and I wish I could go into the past and revert my decision and would have rather brought Nokia 6.1 puls, Moto One power or the Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1… wonder why I brought the Redmi note 6 pro…
The forums have so many users who are very helpful and thanks to them I am able to use the phone. But, why should I browse forums for such basic issues after investing so much money in a new phone which was supposed to be an upgrade?
Since I have criticized the phone so much, I would also like to mention the reasons I brought this phone and the advantages of this phone over my G4 plus:
1. Significantly better camera, actually excellent camera
2. Almost full view screen with a good screen size
3. Hardware is good hence the phone is faster
4. Very good battery life
These are all in terms of hardware, I wish the software was robust as well. I can’t even root the phone or use custom roms as my enterprise apps will not work them. So, now I am stuck with this phone hoping that someday updates will resolve the basic issues I need….
keep going on motorola.
waiy for a few days.. maybe stable GSI starts to roll and u can flash custom roms
Well that´s your opinion and I respect it. But you are mentioning issues related to MIUI and not exactly exclusives to this device. I think you should have done a little research on MIUI to know if you´ll like it before.
Also you can wait for the development of custom ROMs with closer experience to pure Android .
lmesar said:
Well that´s your opinion and I respect it. But you are mentioning issues related to MIUI and not exactly exclusives to this device. I think you should have done a little research on MIUI to know if you´ll like it before.
Also you can wait for the development of custom ROMs with closer experience to pure Android .
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Yes I agree with you I have issues with MIUI.... I did check the MIUI 9 on my friends phone before buying this device... MIUI 9 was much better... I feel more frustrated because the enterprise apps provided by my employer do not work on rooted devices and customer ROMs, so I am stuck!
y5krahul said:
Yes I agree with you I have issues with MIUI.... I did check the MIUI 9 on my friends phone before buying this device... MIUI 9 was much better... I feel more frustrated because the enterprise apps provided by my employer do not work on rooted devices and customer ROMs, so I am stuck!
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Have you tried Magisk (systemless root) and Magisk hide per app settings?
Quick Charge
Quick Charge 3.0 is working fast for me, try changing the charging with the 12v/1.5A. My redmi note 6 pro charges in less than 1:30hrs.
1. Download and use the Google Phone App (working on my Pocophone, should work on this phone too):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-google-dialer-t3557412
2. Download the Google Contacts app from the play store.
3. Use Android Messages
4.-6. Sorry I can't help with these
7. Sadly, you need root to fix this. If you're willing to root, try this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-6-pro/themes/mod-xiaomi-eu-rom-miui-10-t3869257
8. Can't help, sorry.
9. Are you using the included charger? I read that the included charger only supports 10W, not full QC 3.0 speeds. You need to buy a separate QC 3.0 charger if you don't have one.
10. Can't help.
I hope this helps a bit! I had some issues with MIUI on my Pocophone too, but doing the above made the experience great for me, and now I am enjoying MIUI overall!
4- install quick settings app from playstore.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=it.simonesestito.ntiles
Enable toggles you want inside app.. Then You can find them in more option in quick setting area.
y5krahul said:
Hi All, I have purchased a Mi phone for the first time ever – the Redmi Note 6 pro. The hardware specs are amazing and so is the quality of the hardware, but the MIUI is just too pathetic.
I was earlier using a Moto G4 plus running on Android Nougat 7. I wonder why anyone has to build a skin above Android, which runs so well!
I feel I have actually been downgraded by switching to Redmi Note 6 instead of getting an upgrade! Basic functions as listed below are missing in MIUI 10 compared to my good old G4 Plus:
1. Does not have a section for frequently called contacts (have to save nos. on speed dial and remember them like old days)
2. Not able to easily block calls – in my G4 plus, I could simply long press the contact and block it, now I have to go to settings and block contact… such a long process
3. Above blocking of contacts is complicated for SMS also unlike my G4 plus
4. There is no cast icon (screen mirroring) in the notification slider – have to go in to settings to do so
5. Not able to set separate ringtones for each app like GMail, my office email, etc (this could be done in MIUI 9 – checked on my friend’s Redmi Note 4)
6. My employer provides me VMWare boxer as the enterprise email client, it vibrates when new email arrives but does not play notification sound. Furthermore, although the app allows changing the ringtone, on trying to do so the phone nothing happens
7. Notification icons are not appearing on the top left corner of the screen
8. Does not display no internet on wifi, phone just automatically switches to Data – but I cannot keep checking whether my phone is on wifi or data all the time (in G4 plus, it used to indicate no internet on wifi with an exclamation symbol on the wifi icon in the notification bar)
9. Quick charge 3.0 takes 2 hours to charge the phone to 100%. The G4 plus, although with a smaller battery of 3000mAH used to charge in approximately 50 mins, why should 1000mAH more take almost 1 hour more?
10. Vodafone VoLTE is not support on this latest device.
In the last week I have spent hours browsing forums understanding how to fix issues or find alternative ways to work out. I never had to do so for my G4 plus.
I really regret the decision of buying a Xiaomi device and I wish I could go into the past and revert my decision and would have rather brought Nokia 6.1 puls, Moto One power or the Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1… wonder why I brought the Redmi note 6 pro…
The forums have so many users who are very helpful and thanks to them I am able to use the phone. But, why should I browse forums for such basic issues after investing so much money in a new phone which was supposed to be an upgrade?
Since I have criticized the phone so much, I would also like to mention the reasons I brought this phone and the advantages of this phone over my G4 plus:
1. Significantly better camera, actually excellent camera
2. Almost full view screen with a good screen size
3. Hardware is good hence the phone is faster
4. Very good battery life
These are all in terms of hardware, I wish the software was robust as well. I can’t even root the phone or use custom roms as my enterprise apps will not work them. So, now I am stuck with this phone hoping that someday updates will resolve the basic issues I need….
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Install a custom ROM like Pixel Experience, but don't root that rom, no problem arise with your enterprise apps. (If you enterprise apps Pixel Experience ROM as a custom ROM, then you can try OxygenOS port, it will definitely won't get detected as a custom ROM)
Install Custom ROM like Havoc OS or Superior OS. Will do the job for sure.. and my phone takes around 1 hour and 35 mins to fully charge from 0 to 100% , don't know what kind of charger you are using. i am using aukey QC 3.0 charger.
chris23445 said:
1. Download and use the Google Phone App (working on my Pocophone, should work on this phone too):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-google-dialer-t3557412
2. Download the Google Contacts app from the play store.
3. Use Android Messages
4.-6. Sorry I can't help with these
7. Sadly, you need root to fix this. If you're willing to root, try this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-6-pro/themes/mod-xiaomi-eu-rom-miui-10-t3869257
8. Can't help, sorry.
9. Are you using the included charger? I read that the included charger only supports 10W, not full QC 3.0 speeds. You need to buy a separate QC 3.0 charger if you don't have one.
10. Can't help.
I hope this helps a bit! I had some issues with MIUI on my Pocophone too, but doing the above made the experience great for me, and now I am enjoying MIUI overall!
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Hello,
Thanks a lot for your help... I have also been searching for workarounds for quite sometime..
For 1. Did install google phone but sadly that does not display call log dont know for what reason - so I have created contact shortcuts on my home screen
2,3 Did as u suggested thanks again!
4 - no solution
5,6 - have rolled back to MIUI 9.6 wherein there are inbuilt options to set separate ringtones for all apps and my enterprise apps are also playing notifications correctly - alternatively u can also use the app notification manager pro
7. If u use latest MIUI 10, u can see notification icons for few seconds on unlocking ur screen - cant fix this as now I m on MIUI 9.6
8. will work only if u scroll down notification bar (not a good option though) - does show the exclamation mark when wifi is not working
9. I have a QC 3.0 charger which takes 2 hrs to fully charge the phone fully... cant do anything about this
10. VoLTE is now working - i also raised a complaint with vodafone to sort this out
I have realised that MIUI 9,6 was much stabler and rolled back to it... so the phone is much better now compared to MIUI 10
veenaprem said:
Install a custom ROM like Pixel Experience, but don't root that rom, no problem arise with your enterprise apps. (If you enterprise apps Pixel Experience ROM as a custom ROM, then you can try OxygenOS port, it will definitely won't get detected as a custom ROM)
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thanks for your response... i will definitely try looking for an oxygen OS port!
DarkCod3r said:
Install Custom ROM like Havoc OS or Superior OS. Will do the job for sure.. and my phone takes around 1 hour and 35 mins to fully charge from 0 to 100% , don't know what kind of charger you are using. i am using aukey QC 3.0 charger.
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I am using a QC 3.0 charger and also tried using the QC 3.0 charger provided with Moto G4 plus and G5 plus but my phone takes 2 complete hours to charge... my be some issue with my phone.
y5krahul said:
I am using a QC 3.0 charger and also tried using the QC 3.0 charger provided with Moto G4 plus and G5 plus but my phone takes 2 complete hours to charge... my be some issue with my phone.
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Buy this Charger for Quick Charge it supports Quick Charge 3.0 support with 24 Months warranty, I am using it from 2 years. It is the best charger. Price is a bit high from other charger as it is imported, but quality is definitely good. Link:
https://www.amazon.in/dp/B07CJRS8DN/ref=cm_sw_r_wa_apa_i_e68ACbF0WKEQP
Hello, i am getting this phone tomorrow and i would like info from existing users.
1) person i am buying the phone from said it has second latest firmware and that it has a bug where cores dont idle properly and therefor battery runs out faster. Anyone has this problem and how to solve it ?
2) i would like to avoid as much hassle with unofficial software, but will use it if it will really help the phone. What official or unofficial updates do you recomend ? What proved best for this phone ?
3) what is the easiest way to root this phone ? On my S4 mini phone i used 1 click root (kingoroot). I need this for phone call recording app.
To help you with your answer i will write how i plan to use the phone and what i want it to do.
1) i will mostly use it for calls, messages and camera.
2) I will rarely use it to browse internet, youtube, check facebook and gmail.
3) apps i will use are: sms backup and phonecall recorder
4) i will occasionaly use google maps or something similar
5) i will NOT play games on it, watch movies on it or run any cpu/mem intense operation on it.
6) i will use camera on it very often, for images and videos. I would like it to open fast and take images and videos as good as possible. I would like advices on what to install and how to tweak to accomplish this since reviews say camera is not very good on this phone.
Bonus question: Would anyone here dare to say how this phones camera will compare to camera on Samsung S4 mini and S5 mini ? Will camera on Z5 compact be worse, same or better than those 2 phones ?
Was user of this phone for around 2 years. Just upgraded from Z5C to Mi Mix 2.
Mine's battery got swell, but luckily back cover glass not broken, so I carefully removed cover and put needle on battery to take out pressure from battery. Put back cover, and it seems to be good so far. Keeping it as backup phone.
For idle / cpu sleep, disable movie maker app, its discussed in old threads as well.
Camera is just okay, and biggest let down on camera is, it takes photo after a second when you click the camera button.
On my new Mix 2, camera is super fast. It takes photo as soon as button is tapped.
2nd drawback is heating issue. It gets hot really quickly when using any app that uses more cpu, like recording a movie. You can cool it down by killing the app.
Sent from my Mi MIX 2 using Tapatalk
I've used the Z5C as my primary device for almost 3 years now and own two in case I need a backup. I can't address all of your concerns but I can definitely provide some input based on my experience.
Hello, i am getting this phone tomorrow and i would like info from existing users.
1) person i am buying the phone from said it has second latest firmware and that it has a bug where cores dont idle properly and therefor battery runs out faster. Anyone has this problem and how to solve it ?
The latest stock firmware from Sony is Android Nougat 7.1.1 (if that's what you mean by second latest firmware). I did experience a severe battery drain issue in my first Z5C and had to replace it, may or may not be related to the bug you describe. My current two devices do not have this issue.
2) i would like to avoid as much hassle with unofficial software, but will use it if it will really help the phone. What official or unofficial updates do you recomend ? What proved best for this phone ?
Berni's alternative Lineage Build is the best rom and comes with the latest security patch from Google. Highly recommended over stock.
3) what is the easiest way to root this phone ? On my S4 mini phone i used 1 click root (kingoroot). I need this for phone call recording app.
Follow the guide on how to root. It's not as easy as using Kingoroot but it's the best available method to date. Note that if you choose to root this phone, you have to unlock the bootloader, which also results in a loss of the DRM keys, which are tied to the camera's ability to process photos. This isn't a huge issue anymore since the camera on unofficial roms is more or less the same quality is stock now.
As for the camera, it's pretty subpar by today's standards. It takes decent photos in daylight but the sensor is terrible for low light photos. There is no tweaking that I know of that can fix this. In fact most of Sony's phones suffer from this problem - I believe they only truly improved the camera with the Xperia XZ2 Compact which came out last year. The Z5C does support the 4K video though, which is nice. I use Footej Camera pro on my Z5C and have not come across a better app for taking photos.
While I much prefer the design of the Z5C over the Z3C, the Z3C supports working unofficial builds of both Oreo and Android P - the hardware is also more or less the same as the Z5C. So if the firmware version is important to you the Z3C is a good option too.
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Was user of this phone for around 2 years. Just upgraded from Z5C to Mi Mix 2.
Mine's battery got swell, but luckily back cover glass not broken, so I carefully removed cover and put needle on battery to take out pressure from battery. Put back cover, and it seems to be good so far. Keeping it as backup phone.
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i saved my battery used only the original slow charger ,
mostly ive charge from 20 to 90%
and disconnected the phone from the charger when done chargering ,
not using the phone while is charge's
the result my phone is over years
if i put *#*#service#*#* in the dialer its saids my battery is 2400 instead of 2700 (only 300ma damge over 2 yrs!) stiil good to use
Don't use custom roms if you are going to use the camera very often.
The image quality on custom roms is much worse than the stock one. (Expecially with videos, you loose the extra smooth stabilization)
I raccomend you to use stock rom + root (magisk) + green kernel
I still use my Z5c as a daily driver. I keep a phone as a daily as long as possible but I plan to switch when something I like comes to market. 2018 sucks when it comes to new smartphones, IMO. I enjoy having front facing speakers and NO NOTCH.
- Stock ROM specific to my country (E5803_Customized PH_1298-5099_32.4.A.1.54_R1E). If you are in the US, I think flashing a stock ROM other than the US specific one enables the fingerprint scanner. I have tried Berni's Lineage 14.1 build and I would highly recommend it for an AOSP-based ROM. Unfortunately I loose camera features like digital stabilization in video and 60 fps recording so I went back to stock. With all the bloatware disabled, Sony's stock ROM is not bad.
- I was able to backup my TA partition when the Dirty Cow exploit was a thing. I was able to flash it back when I finally had TWRP, keeping the DRM stuff needed for the best camera performance.
- Magisk-v18 for root. But unlocking the bootloader and adding a recovery is a whole different story.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/general/guide-how-to-root-z5c-painful-using-t3549388
- Z5 FSC (Fast Smarter Cooler)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xp...d-fsc-1-0-dont-sacrifice-performance-t3670586
- Xposed mod so I can use RootCloak and hide my rooted status from banking apps.
Thank you all for replies, i didnt get my phone this friday, i am getting it on monday, i am anxious I am getting the latest technology of 2015 Yep, right now im on midrange 2013 phone, moving to highend 2015
I am not playing with anything that could harm my camera, its the most important thing to me. Basicly all i care about is rooting the phone. That rooting guide looks long and painful and im a software enginer
I guess i will have to do a little reading because right now i dont even know the difference between ROM and kernel. Maybe you could point me to some good reading ?
Just to be safe. When i get my phone. If i do every single official upgrade that the phone offers me (android version, sony stuff, etc.). Will i still be able to use the Magisk-v18 for rooting? The reason i am asking is that if possible, i would like to first upgrade everything and test my phone call recording app and see how it works. If it works, i would save myself a whole load of time doing that painful rooting thing. But, i am afraid that upgrading the phone will make it harder to root (dirty cow and such). So can i safely upgrade everything ?
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Just to be safe. When i get my phone. If i do every single official upgrade that the phone offers me (android version, sony stuff, etc.). Will i still be able to use the Magisk-v18 for rooting? The reason i am asking is that if possible, i would like to first upgrade everything and test my phone call recording app and see how it works. If it works, i would save myself a whole load of time doing that painful rooting thing. But, i am afraid that upgrading the phone will make it harder to root (dirty cow and such). So can i safely upgrade everything ?
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Updating the phone won't make it harder to root, and it's already extremely easy
you just need to:
1. Unlock the bootloader (Easy process, you just need to follow a few instructions from https://developer.sony.com/develop/open-devices/get-started/unlock-bootloader/)
2. Install a custom recovery (Just a few adb commands)
3. Flash Magisk via the recovery you just installed
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Updating the phone won't make it harder to root, and it's already extremely easy
you just need to:
1. Unlock the bootloader (Easy process, you just need to follow a few instructions from https://developer.sony.com/develop/open-devices/get-started/unlock-bootloader/)
2. Install a custom recovery (Just a few adb commands)
3. Flash Magisk via the recovery you just installed
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The part that bothers me is the backup of the keys for camera. I dont even know what this keys are nor why are they needed but i am afraid i will lose them, as ppl tend to lose keys.
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The part that bothers me is the backup of the keys for camera. I dont even know what this keys are nor why are they needed but i am afraid i will lose them, as ppl tend to lose keys.
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That's the trickiest part. I followed the guides carefully, backed up my keys and later when I tried to restore they keys my phone soft bricked and I was never able to restore them again. Not a huge loss for me because I want to stay on a custom rom with root.
Also is quite easy to downgrade for phone to old firmware if you decided to update it. The Sony flash tool is great. But there is a learning curve to all of this so I suggest you read up and learn it well if you really want to use this device.
Well this is a disapointment. Camera is worse than on S5 mini which is 1 year older, a lot cheaper and "only" 8MP. And battery seems to run down mighty fast even when i am not touching the phone. I decided to use s5 mini until i figure out of there is any worthy upgrade.
Could someone please record video with Z5 compact in silent room and check if there is any background noise ? Because on my phone, there is a lot of background noise when i record video and audio quality is really bad. I tried all 3 compatible android roms so far.
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Could someone please record video with Z5 compact in silent room and check if there is any background noise ? Because on my phone, there is a lot of background noise when i record video and audio quality is really bad. I tried all 3 compatible android roms so far.
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Hi, Yes i have some noise when recording.I only use official stock rom 7.1.1, I also put the phone in a box and closed it to do the recording.
I did not really noticed it before because i usually only take pictures and when i shoot to record something, it is outside to record music or something, so no real silence.
I can hear the background noise (recorded from a silent) when pushing volume level over 50% and i don't think it is that bad.
1) I think, the microphone is on some kind of auto adjustmode and boost its sensibility to pick low noise.
2)Some noise do come from the Z5 circuitry, if you put your ear on the Z5 phone back,you can hear some noise...So i am sure this noise is picked as well.
3) I also recorded the video with the sony NC-750 earbuds (binaural audio) and i got also some noise noise as well.
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Can i ask you which alternate rom are you using?
I don't think Sony's still work :
Radio FM RDS, Noise cancelling with Sony's earbuds, binaural recording, Steady Shot Tm, 23MPX camera...
(Those last two i coud live without if there is a good alternative solution as camera app), not sure about battery life either.
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Could someone please record video with Z5 compact in silent room and check if there is any background noise ? Because on my phone, there is a lot of background noise when i record video and audio quality is really bad. I tried all 3 compatible android roms so far.
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Running latest Lineage 14.1 build from Berni without DRM keys. I use the Footej camera app. When recording there is some noise but it's quiet so I've never noticed it before. Audio quality overall is good.
My best camera experience has been using Footej but also CameraMx with HDR enabled. Also if you rooted with Magisk, download and install the Camera2 API Enabler module.