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Most of us here love our Nexus S phones. We love Android 2.3's speed and the neat little TV effect when we lock our screens. Since Friday morning, (Feb. 11th) my Nexus S seems to be having another TV effect: nightly "sign offs."
It does not matter if I was charging the phone or not, the phone would just stop working. The strip of touch buttons along the bottom of the phone could be lit or unlit, but the screen would just turn off and no button presses would wake the phone. If I plugged it in to a computer, you could hear a "device connect" noise and see the Android hard drive appear under the Device Manager in Windows.
All of this means that the Nexus S was powered, but not responding. It would not reboot itself, and yes, I have experienced the reboot issue. This seems to be a separate issue. This only seems to happen after midnight.
The only solution is to pull out the battery and reboot it manually.
If my Nexus S is still on when this silent crash occurs overnight, my battery could be completely drained by the time I wake up, making me plug it in AND requiring a battery pull.
Has anyone else had this issue occur? According to the Android Market, I've only updated a few programs recently, one of them being Twitter.
Some Recently Updated Programs: (most recent first)
T-Mobile My Account (to 5.0.15)
Google Authenticator (installed, 0.54)
Google Goggles (to 1.3.1)
Twitter (to 2.0.0)
Amazon MP3 (to 1.8.30)
Google Books (to 1.1.4)
System Info:
Stock, unrooted Nexus S
Launch day unit
T-Mobile USA
Android 2.3.2
Baseband I9020XXJK8
Kernel 2.6.35.7-g7f1638a [email protected] #1
Build GRH78C
When I woke up on Friday, I called Samsung and they did note the issue under my phone number. I will call them again Monday and let them know I'm still having issues.
Any help/suggestions from the XDA community would be appreciated.
Thank you!
Just checked this morning, (Monday) and I had to pop out the battery to turn the phone back on. Before I went to sleep, my battery was at 100%. When I woke up and booted the phone up, it was around 30%. A 70% drop in 8 hours. Time to call Samsung again.
No one else is having this issue?
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Sounds like either a defective unit, or messed up software.
Try doing a factory reset and use don't install many apps and see if that resolves for problems for a day or 2.
Well I had a strange issue that I had never seen before... at around midnight last night both my NS and my gf's went into bootloop at the same time, it was freaky. We're both on CM7 but hers is an older build and mine has netarchy's but it's never happened before... pulling the battery and powering back on fixed both phones but it's still very weird.
I have never actually called the manufacturer before about any issues with a device. Do they do anything for you? Or help you in any way?
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Samsung suggested that I do a factory reset and then if that does not fix the issue, then I'll have to send the phone into them. The tech I got on Friday was more knowledgeable than the one I got today. I'm going to backup my data and then do a factory reset, making sure not to "pull" my data from Google's servers.
Man, not doing that is going to suck.
I am also using Google Voice for my voicemail. Just wanted to throw that out there in case any running services or something is causing all of this. I'm thinking that the new version of Twitter is causing this, as it's baked into Android now and there was an update recently. Thoughts?
Here's a small update on my issue: it seems to be software-related. My Nexus S crashes during the day as well, requiring a battery pull as described above. Disabling sync does not solve the issue, so it doesn't seem like it's coming from that area. What would you guys suggest my next place to look be?
Thanks!
Well, have been having almost the same issue for the past two days. Go to bed with 57 & 63%. Get up in the morning and the phone is dead. Not sure of the exact time it.passes away, but yeah.
Can't understand why the phone has to drink while I sleep.
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Same prob, only intermitant though. Im using rc1 now, with no custom kernel.
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I've been having the same issue since the 13th of Feb. At first it would freeze only overnight. Now, since the 14th it freezes while asleep 4-5 times a day, and the only way to get it working is to do a battery pull. I've tried to remove recently installed apps and widgets, but that has made no difference. I really don't want to have to do a factory reset, especially after I've been reading on google forums about other users not noticing a difference after a factory reset. This is getting ridiculous.
Unrooted Nexus S
Android 2.3.2
Baseband I9020XXJK8
Kernel 2.6.35.7-g7f1638a [email protected] #1
Build GRH78C
T-Mobile US
Agreed. Mine started to freeze during the day as well, requiring a battery pull. Do you have the new Twitter installed? Do you use Google Voice for voicemail? I'm trying to pull together some common threads. It's definitely software related.
Edit: OK, now this is just stupid. It seems like I'm freezing up every half an hour by now. I pull the phone from my pocket to check on something and I push the power button. The lockscreen shows, but the screen and touch buttons don't respond. Battery pull is the only option.
Yes, I do have the new Twitter installed, and yes, I do use Google Voice.
It seems to be happening more often now for me as well. Sometimes it takes two to three times for it to fully restart and get to the home screen, or the lock screen, and sometimes it will wake and then freeze on my pattern lock which also requires a battery pull.
I've starred a few forums on this same issue on the Google support forums, I hope others do the same to show support for a quick fix.
Last night I had the battery at 90. Switched of Wifi, Data and Sync.
Got up this morning and ... no probs The battery dropped to just 88!
BTW. I have got a stock unrooted phone with no Google Voice or twitter so, could not really be a problem related to that.
I use the app addin timer to run stuff at particular times. Other apps that I downloaded are calcbuddy, barcode scanner (which I think is pointless and going to remove), pure messenger, calwidget, appbrain (again, did not like the new updated one), aTakephone, Flip4Silence, CoPilot, Fast Reboot, Docs to Go, Skype, Remote Desktop, StockIndia, Tunein Radio and Widgetsoid.
Thanks for letting me know the apps you have installed. The only common ones between us are:
Barcode Scanner
Skype
Barcode scanner is actually useful. (QR Codes, etc.) Skype may have something to do with it as it does integrate itself with data sync. Thoughts?
In order for this theory to hold water, your phone must:
Crash and require a battery pull to be responsive
Have Skype installed
Edit: My phone was crashing so much that the "first time/welcome" wizard was coming up. Swype, Facebook and GMail were crashing left and right. Time for another Factory Reset....
Edit 2: The phone has SOMEHOW survived a Factory Reset from the normal phone menu AND the Recovery menu! WHAT?!
My Nexus S is going back to Samsung for repair. *sigh* I wonder what they'll say caused the issues?
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Now, today, the phone doesn't get passed the initial "Google" screen. No matter how many times I pull the battery, plug it into a charger or usb port, it does not go past the first google screen. Very disappointing.
Can you get into the bootloader menu? (Volume Up + Power)
Yes, that allowed me to get to the bootloader menu, but I couldn't do a factory reset, it just sat at the screen with the android and an exclamation point inside a triangle. I then did a battery pull, tried a normal restart and got to my home screen.
Glad to hear that you got in. By the way, once you get to the exclamation point screen, you can push Power while holding the Volume Up button to bring up a menu.
Cool, thanks for the help!!
Earlier today, a few apps on my Nexus 7 have just started closing within one or two seconds of opening them.
Google Search Bar, Facebook and Catch Note all close within a couple of seconds after opening them. I have used them fairly frequently for the last few weeks with no problems. Other apps, such as Twitter, Chrome and some games all work fine.
I have turned my device on and off a couple of times, but the problem still persists. Any ideas?
The problem is still occurring for me.
Gmail, Calendar etc... all also closing within a second or two of opening. Is this a common problem?
Is your N7 all stock or do you have a custom rom?...custom kernel?
You really need to provide some information in order to get help.
I haven't seen it in the OP so: Reinstall them
Visa Declined said:
Is your N7 all stock or do you have a custom rom?...custom kernel?
You really need to provide some information in order to get help.
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I haven't rooted my Nexus, or anything like that, it's all stock.
I just uninstalled Facebook, then downloaded it again. It seems to be working. Other apps still have the same problem. I assume that I have to do the same for all other apps - but is that even possible for apps such as Gmail, Calendar and the Search Bar?
Uninstalling and re-downloading hasn't worked as I had hoped.
It seems to have worked for Facebook. But I did the same for Catch Notes, and although it worked for a minute or so when setting it up, after creating a test note, it force-closed, I opened the app up again, and the old problem of closing within 2 seconds happened.
Other apps such as Gmail, I uninstalled, 'updated' again, and nothing changed, still closes immediately. There is no error message, it just returns to the home screen.
I thought that Task Killer might have been a problem, but I uninstalled that, restarted the Nexus, and the problem persists. Actually, when I turned off my Nexus, and tried to turn it back on, it was stuck on the 'coloured X' screen for a few minutes, I had to hold the power button down, and turn it on again. I'm starting to worry about my Nexus now.
Update:
A couple of other odd ones.
Google Drive doesn't even open. When clicking on the icon, the normal shading effect happens, but nothing else, no window even for a second.
Google Calendar opens, and just has a white screen, as if it is ready to load the calendar, but nothing loads. It doesn't close, just remains on the white screen, which can't be backed out of without pressing the home button.
Have you tried doing a cold-boot on the device? Maybe another app running in the background is causing conflicts. Where there any recent apps that you've downloaded?
Asus_USA said:
Have you tried doing a cold-boot on the device? Maybe another app running in the background is causing conflicts. Where there any recent apps that you've downloaded?
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I have just followed the instructions for a 'cold-boot' and now my Nexus can't get beyond the 'X' screen...
I have held the power button down a number of times, and tried turning it on again - but the 'X' continues to be displayed for over 20 minutes.
Just managed to turn my device on - but the problem still exists.
I didn't download any new apps that seem to have caused this problem. Though I think an app might have force closed and the Nexus displayed an error message such as "android/Google system stopped working" (probably different) and my home screen went blank for a while. Everything reappeared though after a short while. It could have stemmed from that.
Sorry about another bump, but i'm wondering if anybody has any more ideas before I go for a factory reset?
Edit: Actually, I think that I have found the cause of the problem. I just opened a game (Let's Golf 3) that I was playing before the problem started and after a few seconds, a message popped up saying "Unfortunately, Launcher has stopped". When I press OK, it returns after a few seconds.
I pressed the sleep button, and my Nexus turned off. Now trying to turn it on again, having some problems getting past the 'X' screen again. If I finally get in, should I uninstall the game? Any other solutions to this problem?
If your N7 can boot up, go the isolate & identify routines - disable/uninstall or freeze the golf game - do a normal shutdown/restart.
If normal functionality is back, you've just found the source. Not a gamer myself except for Angry Birds ... , but from the Play Store description, it access & make changes to system & protocol, etc. as you should contact/email golf's tech support for resolution. Otherwise, take a look of any background running apps or widgets, newly added or updated.
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If your N7 can boot up, go the isolate & identify routines - disable/uninstall or freeze the golf game - do a normal shutdown/restart.
If normal functionality is back, you've just found the source. Not a gamer myself except for Angry Birds ... , but from the Play Store description, it access & make changes to system & protocol, etc. as you should contact/email golf's tech support for resolution. Otherwise, take a look of any background running apps or widgets, newly added or updated.
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Thanks for the help.
I couldn't get my N7 to boot up, so I finally gave in and did a hard reset (by holding power + volume down, Recovery Mode, then wipe data etc...) but my N7 still won't boot up
I have wiped it twice, and rebooted it, yet it is constantly stuck on the 'X' screen. What on earth can I do?
Gawge said:
Thanks for the help.
I couldn't get my N7 to boot up, so I finally gave in and did a hard reset (by holding power + volume down, Recovery Mode, then wipe data etc...) but my N7 still won't boot up
I have wiped it twice, and rebooted it, yet it is constantly stuck on the 'X' screen. What on earth can I do?
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I would flash the stock system image.
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korockinout13 said:
I would flash the stock system image.
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How would one do that?
My N7 isn't rooted or unlocked.
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How would one do that?
My N7 isn't rooted or unlocked.
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You will need to download the factory image, unlock your bootloader, and flash it. There is a guide on this forum, it might be stickied.
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I was hoping there was going to be a resolution to this other than a "flash to stock" suggestion... My Nexus started doing this exact same thing this past Sunday when it ran out of power completely and needed to be recharged. After it powered back up from charging the following apps quit working altogether or just started quitting once it appears they try to access data: Netflix, Currents, Zillow, Gmail, HBO Go, Press (though Google RSS Reader works), NVision, TegraZone and a couple others. I have done the reboot thing as well and almost had this thing brick again (stuck at X), but I managed to clear the data cache from the fastboot menu and it started up again. I'm now at the point where I'm troubleshooting individual apps but the clear data/cache, uninstall - reinstall process isn't working for any of the broken apps. This is now the 4th time I will be facing a 'flash to stock' situation as it appears that I've had every problem that leads to this 'fix'. I'll try a couple more things (mostly deleting and clearing everything) but I'm really frustrated with how many times I've had to flash this damn thing. sigh.
Hi,
Does anyone else have the same problem I have?
If I leave the phone running on battery for a couple of hours it is sometime impossible to wake it up by pressing the power button. Also the LED flashes white (not red). In order to get it working again I have to hold the power button a couple of seconds causing it to reset.
This happens on stock 4.2.1 and also in CM (4.2.1 and 4.2.2).
Seems like a HW problem? Should I send it in for repair?
BR/Svanteson
I've had this issue as well. It may be an issue with one of your downloaded apps. I have gone back to stock without any 3rd party apps and I haven't had the issue yet. Going to test a couple days and see what happens.
Edit: Maybe if you post some of your 3rd party apps you downloaded we can see if we have some in common.
Sure, here are some of my 3rd party apps
Moxier Mail
Eniro
Hitta
Wifi Analyzer
CPU Spy
Subnet calculator
Quadrant
Dropbox
Facebook
Whatsapp
Viber
Spotify
Shazam
MX Player
Truecaller
Llama
Android Lost
Out of those, Facebook and Android Lost are the only ones we had in common. I'll report back on this thread if this issue returns on my freshly flashed stock device without any 3rd party apps.
Similar problem here...
beand1p said:
Out of those, Facebook and Android Lost are the only ones we had in common. I'll report back on this thread if this issue returns on my freshly flashed stock device without any 3rd party apps.
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Similarly, on two occasions now, I've gone to bed with the N4 on the charger, only to find it completely shutdown in the morning, and the battery unchanged from where it was when I plugged it into the charger. It required holding the power button down for quite awhile before I got a response and the unit rebooted. The first time, I didn't bother doing anything at all, but this morning, when it happened again, I called N4 support. I was advised to do a factory reset, and monitor it. If it did it again, they'll do an RMA. It seemed they would have sent another one right then if that's what I wanted them to do, but I told them I'd try the factory reset. They also sent an email with a direct contact link to the agent I spoke with in the event I need to return it.
My Device:
Nexus 4 16GB
Android 4.2.1
Kernel 3.4.0-perf-ge039dcb
Not rooted
I'll also post if the factory reset works. I've also read online, that holding the Volume Down and Power Button both for about 10 seconds, disregarding anything that appears on your screen, will shut your device down. Restart and, at least for several posters, the problem disappeared. Just an FYI. I'll try it if the reset doesn't provide the cure.
No joy....
Phubai said:
Similarly, on two occasions now, I've gone to bed with the N4 on the charger, only to find it completely shutdown in the morning, and the battery unchanged from where it was when I plugged it into the charger. It required holding the power button down for quite awhile before I got a response and the unit rebooted. The first time, I didn't bother doing anything at all, but this morning, when it happened again, I called N4 support. I was advised to do a factory reset, and monitor it. If it did it again, they'll do an RMA. It seemed they would have sent another one right then if that's what I wanted them to do, but I told them I'd try the factory reset. They also sent an email with a direct contact link to the agent I spoke with in the event I need to return it.
My Device:
Nexus 4 16GB
Android 4.2.1
Kernel 3.4.0-perf-ge039dcb
Not rooted
I'll also post if the factory reset works. I've also read online, that holding the Volume Down and Power Button both for about 10 seconds, disregarding anything that appears on your screen, will shut your device down. Restart and, at least for several posters, the problem disappeared. Just an FYI. I'll try it if the reset doesn't provide the cure.
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Following up on my post yesterday, a hard reset did not help anything. Neither did an update to 4.2.2 for that matter. I also tried holding the Volume Down and Power Button until it shut down, and while the problem hasn't re-occurred, I really haven't provided enough time to tell yet. So Google is sending me another one and issuing an RMA. In the interim, while I'm waiting for the new one to arrive, I'll follow up if the VolDown and Power button has done anything.
I'm having the same issue. I just woke up, phone had a flashing white LED and would not boot. A reboot was neccessary. Is this a hardware failure?
The last couple of days I have not had WLAN activated. So far it is running fine.
I will activate WLAN today to see if the problem reappears.
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The last couple of days I have not had WLAN activated. So far it is running fine.
I will activate WLAN today to see if the problem reappears.
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Why would you think there's a correlation between the two? I do have problems with wireless-notifications; for example, messages on whatsapp are often delayed, where I get a notification at say 11PM when the message was sent 10:45PM. Do you also experience this?
No problem noted this morning...
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Following up on my post yesterday, a hard reset did not help anything. Neither did an update to 4.2.2 for that matter. I also tried holding the Volume Down and Power Button until it shut down, and while the problem hasn't re-occurred, I really haven't provided enough time to tell yet. So Google is sending me another one and issuing an RMA. In the interim, while I'm waiting for the new one to arrive, I'll follow up if the VolDown and Power button has done anything.
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I don't know whether holding the Vol Down and Power Button resolved the issue, but at least it didn't happen last night whereas it has been failing nightly when on the charger. Unfortunately, I was just notified that my replacement has already shipped, or I would tell them to hold off a day or two. For those of you experiencing this, you might try holding the Vol Down and Power Button at the same time until the device shuts down ignoring anything on the screen. Then simply restarting. I'm not saying that mine is fixed, only that it had a good night and that was the only thing I've done.
I will post again up until I have sent this device back. I have 21 days in which to return it or my credit card will be charged for real.
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I don't know whether holding the Vol Down and Power Button resolved the issue, but at least it didn't happen last night whereas it has been failing nightly when on the charger. Unfortunately, I was just notified that my replacement has already shipped, or I would tell them to hold off a day or two. For those of you experiencing this, you might try holding the Vol Down and Power Button at the same time until the device shuts down ignoring anything on the screen. Then simply restarting. I'm not saying that mine is fixed, only that it had a good night and that was the only thing I've done.
I will post again up until I have sent this device back. I have 21 days in which to return it or my credit card will be charged for real.
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Mine also failed while on the charger a few times, but it also happened when not charging, so.... I'll try your solution. Why not!
This just happened again this morning. My alarm failed to go off, but the phone LED was flashing white. I could not turn the screen on. I did install some 3rd party apps yesterday:
Facebook
Tasks Free
reddit sync
Ally
IMDb
Pandora
Twitter
I tried the Vol Down + Power and that didn't work for me. I think I am going to RMA the device.
Yea...I have a few apps on my device, but not the ones mentioned here. So I don't think that can cause it. Hoping for more responses! I subscribed to this thread now.
Does anyone know if there is a bug report for this issue?
Not sure, don't think so as I've googled this quite alot. I just saw my telephone, which was idle next to me for about an hour, reboot itself. I saw the google and then the nexus logo without me even touching it. No white flashing LED this time, allthough that also has happened to me. This is getting very annoying now...
Google Support's reply on this
I have seen this happen to my phone more than a few times. I can't make it happen consistently though. I contacted the support hoping for a RMA, and today I received this response from them.
"Thank you for contacting us about your Nexus 4 and providing those details for clarification. This issue could be possibly not be a problem, it is a feature as with any Jellybean OS device; and goes in to the sleep state after some hours of inactivity - such as the details your describe when left overnight. It can go in to a deep sleep, where holding the power button for 30 seconds or more is what wakes the device up."
So this is a *feature*? It seems puzzling to me. I don't know if receiving a call would wake it up (if not, it would definitely be a problem).
I also tried different roms, PA and Xylon, and stock 4.22 with different kernels ranging from Franco to Motley. It would still happen. Rarely but it's still there. Also I am trying to see if changning the minimum clock speed to 1024 would change anything. I will report back once I have more info.
Still working so far...
I've not had a problem with mine since the Vol Down and Power Button shutdown. It may not even be related and may have just "healed" itself, or the problem has simply become intermittent and hasn't repeated itself yet...dunno unfortunately. Since my replacement will be arriving today, I may never know since I'll be shipping this one back to them. I may wait until Monday to ship it though, and see if it acts up again and repost if it does or doesn't.
Hopefully the replacement won't have this problem at all!
locked up
I don't think the flashing white-LED is a signifier of a problem. I think it is a different status message, like email or facebook, or something. I haven't found that documented anywhere, but I've noticed it is blue sometimes and white other times. Without being locked up.
My phone will lock up while charging overnight. I have turned off Dream State and the LED notifier thinking it was related to these. It did seem to be somewhat better after that, but the last two nights have seen the phone locked up.
Also, holding down the power button for 30 seconds will hard power it off at 10 seconds, it seems to me. That is typically how I deal with this lock up! Hold down the power button 10 seconds, release, press it again and wait for it to boot.
This is frustrating. I was thinking of rooting the phone so I can use a logwatcher, but I'm not sure I will see anything in the logs after booting the fracking thing.
But.. while I consider that I will start by uninstalling Facebook, Dropbox, and Twitter apps, based on seeing them on other people's lists.
I'm going to RMA the phone. Just a question, what charger do you guys use? I've been using a samsung charger (from my Galaxy S2), perhaps that's related? As it does happen while charging mostly, allthough I saw the phone reboot itself out of nowhere without it being plugged in yesterday too.
I've only used the Nexus 4 charger on mine. No others. I'm on my new device now but haven't sent the other one back yet. Probably tomorrow.
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I'm going to Copy and Paste a conversation between a girl who tried to help me and all the stuff I've done so far... any help would be great. Issues started upon download of Pokemon go....
Hi Aubry
This would also be faster to chat this way
Yeah, thanks for the help, btw
No problem
I like to help when I can
So, if you already have that message after the card is removed, it's possible you have malware
It's also possible that will the latest android update, something unexpected happened with your phone
Tech support is 99% troubleshooting
lol, yeah, I know
I'm just not as tech savvy yet, I wanna be..
If the memory card is out and you still get that message, I'm leaning toward the latest update acting up
That would make sense...
I had an update forced on me 2 nights ago, I think. Happened without my consent
So that's why I think it may be likely
Is the battery still out?
No, it won't turn on at all without a battery in
Even connected to power
That's a little odd. That might happen if you have a hardware problem but irrelevant to the current issue
Let's try this..... can you get it to turn off, perhaps by taking out battery? Wait a minute (or a few if you want to be safer) and then immediately upon Power up, go into safe mode by hitting home + volume up + power at the same time, holding for maybe 10 seconds
That may throw it out of the loop and into actually recovering itself
I got into safe mode previously by holding power + down
Should I do that or what you said?
There are several modes
lol, k
The combinations are android specific overrides
They're used for different purposes
We want to break the cycle, get out of a loop and begin to recover
You could alternatively do a factory reset, but you lose EVERYTHING that way, so I prefer to exhaust all possible options before recommending that
The main idea is that you have a soft brick, which is recoverable
I already did a factory reset earlier today
That didn't cause any change?
So anyway, now I'm Android System Recovery
It still was having the same issues yeah.. nt as bad at first, but once I put in the mem card, and it started installing my apps and stuff...
Same old BS
Hmmmm
If it's installing apps from the memory card that can be malware
I don't think it was, cause when I did the reset, I took the memory card out to protect my data.
My pictures and stuff
And it stayed out for a while.
Right but malware is code. So if the card itself contains the code, it will continue to install even if it stays out a while
If I'm understanding correctly
It gave me a few hiccups, this has stopped, that has stopped.. but then it worked ok. I was like Oh! It's good! Let's reinstall! ... and back to crap..
If it is malware, the second you put in the infected card, it installs
So if you put the card in the trouble starts, correct?
Sorry if I'm misunderstanding. It's a little harder to fully understand when the device isn't in hand ?
Sooooooo I should save my pictures off the card and reformat?
If you place the card into a computer (presumably with an adapter, if it's microsd), you run possible risk of infection. I would run a virus scan on the card itself, but outside the phone
If you can save the pictures, that's ideal. In the future, consider google backups to the cloud or amazon prime photos
Well, I tok out the card. Then I did a factory reset.... it gave me a FEW of the annoying "this has stopped" or that has stopped, but I don't remember what, now.... It started installing stuff, but some programs it refused to. Clean Master, Pokemon Go.. it gave me error code -504. Then I forced some and it seemed like they were working ok and installing, so I figured maybe I was just DLing too much all at once. So I went back and put in my mem card in, and it froze. rebooted, and **** went to pot again.
I had Google Drive, but it kept filling up my phone's hard drive and prevented me from doing stuff, DLing more.. I had to clear all the data.
Hmmm
I'm lookin up error code
kk
-504 is specific to memory and data collision
Basically, one aplication said "I want to be king of the playground" the firmware said the same thing and they shoved themselves off the playground and both broke their arms
My analogies are bad at 2am
Anyways, when this happens, it's also related to the Google account data having issues with software
Ultimately, the Google services framework needs to be cleared
But how to do that without being able to boot is the problem
I can boot.. kinda.
But it freezes up quick
Right, but the associations and cache will freeze ir
Exactly
Who is your carrier?
Straight Talk
Ah.
That may be trickier
A regular kiosk usually has the software that overrides this to fix the firmware
Like,most of the time, it gets to the "A service of Straight Talk Wireless" and stopps there
Yeah that can't boot fully
You can't get into the settings, right?
(and I am really sorry for my typos, my husband is a slob and his keyboard on this laptop is filled with gunk.)
I can, sometimes~! I can try
If you can get into settings, the cache could be cleared
So just reboot normally?
If you can
But you likely need to be in a recovery mode
Hmm. Would it be best to go into safe mode for this or normal?
The developer resource says:
Go to ”Settings”-> “Applications”-> “Manage Applications” and select “All”
Go to “Google Services Framework”and select “Clear Data & Clear Cache”to remove all the data regarding Google Service Framework.
Go to “Google Play Store”and Select “Clear Data & Clear Cache”to remove all the data regarding Google Play Store.
..one question... will that kill my data in Pokemon Go.
If you could get into recovery mode, which is holding down power + home + DOWN volume, that may work best
No
Go data is all server side
Whew, ok
In theory, it should never be lost
Ok, hang on, gonna try this
(Thank you SO much for all the help)
If the above steps don't work, a second "easy" method is de authenticate you, meaning remove your accounts
The recovery mode gives me the option to wipe the cache a head of time, should I do that too?
Yes
Absolutely
Deleting cache is our goal
Ok, now it's updating andriod.. but stopped cause I'm at 12 percent battery
Oh that's no good
If the battery is too low it might quit
Did it give you the low battery message?
No stayed on
I mean, told me the battery is low but
Ok, in settings
Hang on
Oh great I thought you mean it forced itself off
It HAS done that before, but not right now currently
Go to ”Settings”-> “Applications”-> “Manage Applications” and select “All”
Go to “Google Services Framework”and select “Clear Data & Clear Cache”to remove all the data regarding Google Service Framework.
Go to “Google Play Store”and Select “Clear Data & Clear Cache”to remove all the data regarding Google Play Store.
Ok, so I'm in settngs, applications, but I have Application Manager.
Ok
Might vary depending on version
When I go there it gives me a list
Ok what do you see?
Do you know what phone and android version you are running, by the way?
Android System Webview, ANT Radio Service, AANT+ Plugins Service, AVG Antivirus, BatteryDoctor, my apps.
I might have it memorized in the deep recesses of my brain
That's my device right now
You need google services framework
It may or may not be totally alphabetical
clearing the cache did seem to help though..Ok, so I need Google Play services? I found that
Ok great!
Now.....
Hit clear data and then after clear cache
Those buttons
Ok, so when I tap it it won't show it to me. It goes back to the Applications main menu
When you tap services?
Yeah
That's interesting
Can you try again?
it acts like it wants to, and then gets kicked back out
Sure hold on
Yeah same thing.
Ok try going to Google play store instead in that list
Something is preveting it.
It might be malware or issue with the firmware
Same thing with Google Play... or any app
Google play store is the name of the app
Yeah, I know
I tried it with a few of them randomly too
You should click on that and then attempt to clear that data
Its not letting me access any of them
Ok new plan
Go to “Settings”-> “Accounts”-> “Google” -> Select “Your Account”
Go to “Menu”and Select “Remove Account”, and then “Add Your Account”.
Now “Restart”your mobile device and try to perform update or download.
Ok, so delete my account or services?
If it doesn't say remove, you can delete
that won't delete my gmail and everything right? ?
I sure it won't but just making sure
Well your Gmail will still be on the server assuming you didn't pull it down
I probably sound like the typical idiot here.. yeesh
And delete it on the server
Nah
Then it should be ok
I won't do that, had the account for like 20 years lol
Ah ok
It wants to open it with Chrome or Internet?
Chrome is fine
I hate "internet"
....and now "Unfortunately, Chrome has stopped."
That is unfortunate
Please turn on airplane mode
Airplane on
Ok we are going to wait a minute now
kk
For fun, let's go back into that app list and try clearing that cache again
While airplane is off
Also, if it's late, I can also send you messages later
I'm a 3rd shifter, I'm fine if you are
Yeah I couldn't really sleep
And just tried while Airplane was on, no dice, same BS
Try restarting while in airplane mode
You can hold power
And then restart
Ok
Ok, booted fine
Yay
Now once it's rebooted you can take out of airplane mode and see if the data can now be cleared
Now it won't go into the application list at all
That's sad
Ok time to try something else
On the settings screen, can you find "backup and restore"?
Backup and reset...
Yep that
Ok, in it, now what?
We can try a factory reset from here.
But before you do that
Already did this earlier but sure. XD
Hmm?
Uncheck the boxes that save the app data
So uncheck "Back Up My Data" and "Automatic Restore"?
Yes
You will lose your phone data
That's fine. I know what I need
But at this point, without installing firmware to fix it, it's pretty much the best bet
Is it normal when rebooting the phone it keeps the old apps up and running? I don't remember it doing this previously but it's been doing that lately
Alright.. So factory reset time yes?
I think so
The factory reset should wipe everything
But again, if firmware was badly enough affected you would need more than this
And it might possibly be better to get a new phone, depending on factors considered
But at least the most common solutions were tried
Ok
Welp, got to the tracfone screen... and it's stuck.
What do we mean by stuck?
Frozen?
Whatever is in there, it's in there good
Yeah. It does three boot screens. 1, the Galaxy Grand Prime screen. Then the Pretty Samsung one with the musical tone. Then the Tracfone screen, then it boots. Since these problems started, it will often freeze on the Tracfone one.. cause after a few seconds the screen will dim. And then it boots.. but like, before I took my husband to work.. it was still froze there. I had to pull the battery, cause it wouldn't move. Though, just now it did finally
If it is incapable of factory reset, it's the kernel. That really would have to be handled by the dealer who sold the phone (if under warranty and they feel like replacing it) or doing things that void the warranty anyway
Well, looks like it finally got to boot...
huh.
If it moves, I would say to give it a little more time
That's good news
We are hoping it's not the kernel
....and I selected English, and "Unfortunately, Settings has stopped"...
That might not be a huge problem if it progresses
Settings might be fussy but it can be overlooked for now
Does it look like a factory reset took place?
Like it's new without apps, data, etc?
Same start up and "Welcome!" screen from last time.. but now that I select English it won't go past it. Keeps saying settings stopped.
Oh. That's different than settings stopping on the home screen
Yeah, it's acting like I just bought the phone
If settings are failing to load during language selection and you can't get to the home screen, you can try takin out battery for 10 minutes and then try rebooting and trying again
If it still fails to work after 24 hours (sometimes if you leave it alone long enough it'll work) I'd go to where you bought it with proof of purchase and hope they'll help get a new one
Ok, battery removed. Is it possible it's an overheat issue? Cause when we were playing Pokemo Go Friday night, my phone froze.. and when I booted it the screen went black, and lines went through it, like it lost connection to the MB or something
I've had issue like that with like, DS lites when the ribbon cable gets crunched.. but...
It's possible the hardware overheated, but because it boots, it's not necessarily a gonner
I've taken very good care of this phone, no hard drops or water...
It seems it's definitely a firmware and software issue
If there is a malfunction and it overheats from processing too much at once, that is possible
If the memory can't handle it and it's overloaded
Ok. Cause when that happened it was hot as ****.. and that's when most of these issues really started
I was having the "stopped" messages but only about my SMSs
If it was hot out that is definitely a possibility then
Leave it alone for as long as you can. Maybe all night and up to 24 hours
And those started literally after Pokemon Go.. I would have to stop Pokemon Go cause it would freeze a lot, I don't know if that did anything
But all this happened after I started playing it.
The game may not be good for the phone
Honestly, a lot of the pay as you go phones are not really suitable for mucj processing
I've dealt with a lot of them
They sometimes have trouble with games
I would absolutely submit a bug ticket with Niantic
I soft bricked my phone (and recovered it) because of pokemon having an issue during a specific sequence in game play. It definitely has bugs
I warned friends about it and that other phones may not be recoverable. It really depends on many factors
I've noticed it allowed me to install it on both my tabley (really crappy NextBook from WalMart) and my husband's phone (LG Fuel) and it won't run on either.. I figured, 200 dollar phone, it should be able to handle it....
It ran fine, but now.. and it sucks cause this is how I run my etsy, is this expensive brick
For the record, I have now tried yet a third factory reset. Now my phone won't even get past set-up. Any help would be amazing...
On an unofficial capacity, I think your phone may have been google account locked. This commonly happens when you forget to remove your google account before factory resetting the phone. You will know if your phone is google account locked by holding Volume up button + Power Button + Home Key, then when you get blue screen press volume up button, If the FAP lock: ON, then your account is google locked (Google locked phones tend to not allow you to go past the setup screen as you cannot click the "next" button). You can send it in to your phone dealer for them to send back to Samsung for repairs, however you seem to live in the U.S so I don't know their policies. I live in Canada and work as a part-time Samsung repair technician and our policy is to unlock the google lock and factory reset then return to phone company. However, that is not covered under warranty so we do it as a sort of "customer service" capacity.
Jonny W said:
-snip- , If the FAP lock: ON, then your account is google locked (Google locked phones tend to not allow you to go past the setup screen as you cannot click the "next" button). -snip-
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It is FRP, not FAP, it means Factory Reset Protection.
Well, if that is the case, on the setup you will get a window telling you to choose the WI-FI you want to connect to. Do it, then try to log in with your gmail account (This "gmail" account must be the same one you used last time otherwise it will not work.
Hello,
I have my Moto X Style for a little less than one year. Had no problems with it at all, enjoyed it a lot, until about 3 weeks ago. It then started to randomly reboot, 3 or 4 times a day. I searched on Google and saw many people had that issue. Tried several of the "solutions" I found, uninstalled some apps I thought could be the cause, with no success.
2 days ago, I decided to do a factory reset. Looked like it worked, for one day. Yesterday, it did reboot once again, only one time though. And now, it just rebooted again a few seconds ago...
What can I do now? The dull thing is that every time it reboots, I lose the Bluetooth association with my devices and have to reassociate them, like the sound system in my car, and it sucks to enter the 0000 code and then having to add the player to the "trusted devices" and all....
Phone is not rooted and running system (Android 6.0 with Dec. 1st security) . Build #MPHS24.49-18-16.
Thanks for any input.
metaleloi666 said:
Hello,
I have my Moto X Style for a little less than one year. Had no problems with it at all, enjoyed it a lot, until about 3 weeks ago. It then started to randomly reboot, 3 or 4 times a day. I searched on Google and saw many people had that issue. Tried several of the "solutions" I found, uninstalled some apps I thought could be the cause, with no success.
2 days ago, I decided to do a factory reset. Looked like it worked, for one day. Yesterday, it did reboot once again, only one time though. And now, it just rebooted again a few seconds ago...
What can I do now? The dull thing is that every time it reboots, I lose the Bluetooth association with my devices and have to reassociate them, like the sound system in my car, and it sucks to enter the 0000 code and then having to add the player to the "trusted devices" and all....
Phone is not rooted and running system (Android 6.0 with Dec. 1st security) . Build #MPHS24.49-18-16.
Thanks for any input.
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Does it do it Safe Mode?
acejavelin said:
Does it do it Safe Mode?
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Didn't try on safe mode? THis means the phone would be on, but without any apps working? Or only system apps?
metaleloi666 said:
Didn't try on safe mode? THis means the phone would be on, but without any apps working? Or only system apps?
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Only the core system apps, no other services are started... To access Safe Mode, press and hold power like you are going to shut off the phone, then when the Power Off message shows up, long press it until it says something about Restart in Safe Mode and select it. The next reboot will be in safe mode. To leave Safe Mode, just power off and restart again normally.
My guess is there is an app conflict somewhere... without a logcat of a random reboot it would be impossible to tell though.
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Only the core system apps, no other services are started... To access Safe Mode, press and hold power like you are going to shut off the phone, then when the Power Off message shows up, long press it until it says something about Restart in Safe Mode and select it. The next reboot will be in safe mode. To leave Safe Mode, just power off and restart again normally.
My guess is there is an app conflict somewhere... without a logcat of a random reboot it would be impossible to tell though.
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Thing is, it started to do the random reboot thing even if I didn't install any new apps in a while. So, why would some app that didn't cause reboots before would start to cause some suddenly?
metaleloi666 said:
Thing is, it started to do the random reboot thing even if I didn't install any new apps in a while. So, why would some app that didn't cause reboots before would start to cause some suddenly?
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I don't know, an update perhaps... But your only other option is to contact Motorola and send it in for repair, it is usually easier to eliminate everything on your end first.
acejavelin said:
I don't know, an update perhaps... But your only other option is to contact Motorola and send it in for repair, it is usually easier to eliminate everything on your end first.
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I'm from Canada, so can't use Lenovo US. Bought the phone from Expansys, with a 18-month total warranty, but I know they shut down their US office. They're supposed to still honor warranties though...
But still there must be a way to make the damn phone work without shipping it back... Would root and a custom OS be an option?
metaleloi666 said:
I'm from Canada, so can't use Lenovo US. Bought the phone from Expansys, with a 18-month total warranty, but I know they shut down their US office. They're supposed to still honor warranties though...
But still there must be a way to make the damn phone work without shipping it back... Would root and a custom OS be an option?
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It's always an option, but stock is generally more stable than any custom ROM.
Without knowing the cause, I can't say for sure.
Try the Safe Mode thing first... it wouldn't be first time an app update caused a device to reboot.