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Hello,
I am considering buying this phone from Verizon. I have been looking at the phone spec, and found that its technical model is SM-N900V. Is it inferior to the international model N9005 in anyway?
Since I travel a lot, will the difference in the network band prevent me from using this phone in certain countries? Can this problem be solved by rooting and installing custom rom/software?
Thank you!
I don't know what the complete differences are. However I do know it's an unlocked phone and can be used with other Sims.
I have a ATT phone and switch the Sims out on a regular basis.
You shouldn't have any problems traveling with this phone.
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Bsmith0731 said:
I don't know what the complete differences are. However I do know it's an unlocked phone and can be used with other Sims.
I have a ATT phone and switch the Sims out on a regular basis.
You shouldn't have any problems traveling with this phone.
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So do you mean you are able to use this phone on ATT network without a problem?
garuda3 said:
So do you mean you are able to use this phone on ATT network without a problem?
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No problem at all. Just change the apn settings after you insert the sim and you are good to go.
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Bsmith0731 said:
No problem at all. Just change the apn settings after you insert the sim and you are good to go.
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Really? SO since we are in a Verizon thread, I just want to make sure. If we bought the retail Verizon Note 3 and have a Verizon 4g SIM in it, we can remove that, put in a ATT SIM, change the APN settings, and it will work on ATT network? Calls and Data?
christianpeso said:
Really? SO since we are in a Verizon thread, I just want to make sure. If we bought the retail Verizon Note 3 and have a Verizon 4g SIM in it, we can remove that, put in a ATT SIM, change the APN settings, and it will work on ATT network? Calls and Data?
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Correct. hspa but not LTE I haven't seen LTE yet but then again I haven't tried an ATT LTE apn either. I believe LTE is on a different band anyway.
But it absolutely gives people in my contacts the impression that I'm calling or texting from my ATT phone. It's sweet.
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Thank you for your reply. This definitely make me feel a bit better if I need to change carrier in the future.
In the mean time, can anyone here with technical knowledge tell me if there is any disadvantage in choosing Verizon's N900V over N9005? Especially for using them outside the US?
Thanks!
the title says it, i kind of want to do this, maybe not for that long, most likely it would be temporary.
jrpjordan24 said:
the title says it, i kind of want to do this, maybe not for that long, most likely it would be temporary.
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No. Google it and you will find that Verizon and tmobile networks are different. Verizon is CDMA and tmobile is GSM. Or something like that.
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Mr. bird said:
No. Google it and you will find that Verizon and tmobile networks are different. Verizon is CDMA and tmobile is GSM. Or something like that.
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I use Verizon phone on T-Mobile network. Verizon S5 has sim slot for sim cards. All Verizon 4LTE phones, GSM unlock.
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I use Verizon phone on T-Mobile network. Verizon S5 has sim slot for sim cards. All Verizon 4LTE phones, GSM unlock.
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This is true.
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U can use it but lte will not work tmobile is not compatible with Verizon lte
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U can use it but lte will not work tmobile is not compatible with Verizon lte
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It not true. I confirm LTE works fine with out any problem.
If you are able to use other carrier phones and just pop a Sim card in and your good to go, then in the future can I buy a variant of the phone I want with an unlocked bootloader and be rooted with no issues?
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Odin80 said:
If you are able to use other carrier phones and just pop a Sim card in and your good to go, then in the future can I buy a variant of the phone I want with an unlocked bootloader and be rooted with no issues?
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Nope, i'm actually surprised that Verizon didn't lock the phone if what the above poster said is true. The bootloader isn't what you need unlocked to move from carrier to carrier. Phones with sim cards are generally GSM and phones without sim cards are generally CDMA. GSM phones are normally locked to the specific carrier that you bought it from. CDMA phones are not usually taken on any other networks unless you are moving to a network like cricket which takes what it can get
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Nope, i'm actually surprised that Verizon didn't lock the phone if what the above poster said is true.
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As he said, Verizon 4G phones are all sim unlocked. Phones like this and the Note 2, which I just came from, have the CDMA and GSM bands. It is just as simple as putting in the SIM, change the APN, and be working. That said, the Note 2 could not get a 4G GSM signal only HSPA+ because of the bands it supported. I haven't checked the S5 yet, but I do believe I have seen that it does support some of the 4G GSM bands.
You are right about the CDMA part which is why it wouldn't be wise to buy, say a Sprint S5, and then come to Verizon because it does not support any CDMA bands.
so you guys can confirm that it is sim unlocked?
They always are. All Verizon Wireless 4G phones are SIM unlocked.
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As he said, Verizon 4G phones are all sim unlocked. Phones like this and the Note 2, which I just came from, have the CDMA and GSM bands. It is just as simple as putting in the SIM, change the APN, and be working. That said, the Note 2 could not get a 4G GSM signal only HSPA+ because of the bands it supported. I haven't checked the S5 yet, but I do believe I have seen that it does support some of the 4G GSM bands.
You are right about the CDMA part which is why it wouldn't be wise to buy, say a Sprint S5, and then come to Verizon because it does not support any CDMA bands.
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Bare with me if this seems like an absolutely stupid question.
When I travel I have a GSM HTC One S that I pop in a pre-paid SIM to use (say, 3 in Ireland). I believe this was a T-Mobile phone previously that I carrier unlocked. If I have a Verizon CDMA S5, I could pop in the 3 SIM and be able to use it (maybe not 4G depending on the bands) provided I updated the APN information?
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Bare with me if this seems like an absolutely stupid question.
When I travel I have a GSM HTC One S that I pop in a pre-paid SIM to use (say, 3 in Ireland). I believe this was a T-Mobile phone previously that I carrier unlocked. If I have a Verizon CDMA S5, I could pop in the 3 SIM and be able to use it (maybe not 4G depending on the bands) provided I updated the APN information?
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Correct. I used my Note 2 in multiple European countries, lastly in Rome where it was stolen. Take your Verizon sim out at the airport, put the new one in, change APN, and voila.
(carriers I have tested with - Orange, Vodafone(multiple places), 3, Rogers in Canada)
Your S5 on Verizon isn't solely CDMA. If you look up any website with the bands it supports, you will see the GSM bands.
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Correct. I used my Note 2 in multiple European countries, lastly in Rome where it was stolen. Take your Verizon sim out at the airport, put the new one in, change APN, and voila.
(carriers I have tested with - Orange, Vodafone(multiple places), 3, Rogers in Canada)
Your S5 on Verizon isn't solely CDMA. If you look up any website with the bands it supports, you will see the GSM bands.
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That's fantastic. Thank you!
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That's fantastic. Thank you!
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More than welcome. And here is the link so you can check the bands when looking at foreign carriers.
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=4408
And even without 4G, it is still plenty fast enough to use the internet, google maps, and stream music.
What if you canceled your service and went to tmobile. Would it still work?
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More than welcome. And here is the link so you can check the bands when looking at foreign carriers.
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=4408
And even without 4G, it is still plenty fast enough to use the internet, google maps, and stream music.
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Looks like the One S and S5 share the same GSM bands... I'll definitely have to try it out. I know my 3 SIM works here in the US too on the phone. Thanks again, really helpful.
ironfisted said:
What if you canceled your service and went to tmobile. Would it still work?
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Yes, or Straight Talk, or whomever.
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Yes, or Straight Talk, or whomever.
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But Straight Talk don't have LTE.
B767 said:
But Straight Talk don't have LTE.
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That wasn't the question. The question, as posed, was would it work? It absolutely will work with speeds up to HSPA+.
All,
It seems that the only way to get the XPE working on the Verizon network is to use an already activated SIM.
If I'm not mistaken, this is only for the LTE portion of the radio (since LTE is a GSM derivation).
To activate a phone on the CDMA network, I believe its IMEI has to be whitelisted.
So, my question is, can this phone use Verizon's CDMA network?
This is important because, while I do get some LTE service at work, the CDMA repeater network typically picks up my phone so that I can receive calls.
Thanks!
CDMA works fine. I don't get LTE at home, and my MXP works fine there.
spotmark said:
CDMA works fine. I don't get LTE at home, and my MXP works fine there.
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Great! So nothing more than a SIM swap is needed for CDMA activation?
tamas413 said:
All,
It seems that the only way to get the XPE working on the Verizon network is to use an already activated SIM.
If I'm not mistaken, this is only for the LTE portion of the radio (since LTE is a GSM derivation).
To activate a phone on the CDMA network, I believe its IMEI has to be whitelisted.
So, my question is, can this phone use Verizon's CDMA network?
This is important because, while I do get some LTE service at work, the CDMA repeater network typically picks up my phone so that I can receive calls.
Thanks!
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Easiest way definetly is sim swap. That being said. Being that i wanted a fresh sim. Went to store. Official vzw. All that needs to be done
If you don't have a activated nano or want to cut your micro. Go to store and let them know you wish to activate new MXP. Have them call level 2 tech and they can take care of it pretty quickly. Activated in hand. Or call #202 and explain samething and they will send it. Either way mine is activated and everything works great.
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Great! So nothing more than a SIM swap is needed for CDMA activation?
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I ran into trouble with Verizon activating my device. Apparently the IMEI wasn't white listed yet.
What I had them do is use and already activated S6 on my account (wifes device). To issue a nano sim. Then plugged into my device and that got it working.
Really not impressed with Verizon not having the devices white listed already. Not sure if it's because mine is custom (64gb/ leather). Either way, I'm activated.
Does tethering work fine for those of us on the UDP?
I've seen a few say tethering with UDP works fine.
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GrandMstrBud said:
Does tethering work fine for those of us on the UDP?
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Working for me. UDP on vzw
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NoFear1183 said:
I ran into trouble with Verizon activating my device. Apparently the IMEI wasn't white listed yet.
What I had them do is use and already activated S6 on my account (wifes device). To issue a nano sim. Then plugged into my device and that got it working.
Really not impressed with Verizon not having the devices white listed already. Not sure if it's because mine is custom (64gb/ leather). Either way, I'm activated.
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How long did that take? I'm sure it was a pain. But, it's just the CDMA stuff that needs activating, right? Did you get LTE right out of the box?
jaben2 said:
Working for me. UDP on vzw
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Cool, that helps a lot. Thinking on something new and the price is right
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How long did that take? I'm sure it was a pain. But, it's just the CDMA stuff that needs activating, right? Did you get LTE right out of the box?
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I had LTE once I got a nano sim. They couldn't issue me a nano sim. I'm coming from a galaxy s4 so needed to get a nano sim. Took almost 1.5 hours, but this was the employee calling someone and trying to find a way for a while. Then after all that I suggested using wifes device imei (which is on same account and takes nano sim). Which that process took maybe 10min tops and plugged the nano sim in and worked instantly. On my account shows my device as "non Verizon device". Didn't even know it is the moto x pure
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I had LTE once I got a nano sim. They couldn't issue me a nano sim. I'm coming from a galaxy s4 so needed to get a nano sim. Took almost 1.5 hours, but this was the employee calling someone and trying to find a way for a while. Then after all that I suggested using wifes device imei (which is on same account and takes nano sim). Which that process took maybe 10min tops and plugged the nano sim in and worked instantly. On my account shows my device as "non Verizon device". Didn't even know it is the moto x pure
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So you used a nano sim from your wife's phone? I have mine on a business account and one of my employees has a 2014 X. So maybe i could use his sim to activate mine?
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Oaklands said:
So you used a nano sim from your wife's phone? I have mine on a business account and one of my employees has a 2014 X. So maybe i could use his sim to activate mine?
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They used her devices imei to issue me a sim. They can't just give you a sim. Need an imei to assign it. They won't do a random imei or one off another account. Then they used a sim that was assigned the imei of my wife's device. Then the sim updated itself with my devices imei and everything.
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They used her devices imei to issue me a sim. They can't just give you a sim. Need an imei to assign it. They won't do a random imei or one off another account. Then they used a sim that was assigned the imei of my wife's device. Then the sim updated itself with my devices imei and everything.
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Great. Should not be an issue to use my employees phone. Thank you for the info.
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T-MOBILE S7 Edge works on Verizon, ATT with unlocked Sim card! I also have LTE on All 3 Networks.
First question is how did you get your phone unlocked? I thought tmobile made you wait 45 days before they would unlock the phone
2swizzle said:
First question is how did you get your phone unlocked? I thought tmobile made you wait 45 days before they would unlock the phone
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A lot of times if the phone is paid off, it'll unlock as long as it meets 1 requirement.
Sweet Verizon is super fast and coverage is virtually anywhere.
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droid rocks said:
T-MOBILE S7 Edge works on Verizon, ATT with unlocked Sim card! I also have LTE on All 3 Networks.
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Does it have CDMA support?
I am able to make calls. I'm not sure because I use dialpad for all of my calls.
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I said that I was going over seas for a trip. Then the device unlock app was activated.
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Verizon uses a lte sim card for data only. There will not be(shouldnt be anyway) any call support because the 935t does not have cdma, unless verizon is using different bands on newer devices like tmobile(band 12 - 700a)
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T-MOBILE S7 Edge works on Verizon, ATT with unlocked Sim card! I also have LTE on All 3 Networks.
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I unlocked my T-Mobile S7 Edge, I cant make it connect to Verizon network for some reason, when did you buy the phone and how did you unlock it? any special things you need to do?
droid rocks said:
I am able to make calls. I'm not sure because I use dialpad for all of my calls.
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can you show us the steps I just tried to add my unlocked sm-935t to. Verizon and they tried to add the imei but it's not in there system do you think if I flash sm-935u will it work ??
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droid rocks said:
T-MOBILE S7 Edge works on Verizon, ATT with unlocked Sim card! I also have LTE on All 3 Networks.
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how did you get sm-g935t to work in verizon please help me i have my s7 edge unlocked from t-mobile and i am trying to used it on verizon
I've searched and cant find anything but the bands for either service. Which they use a lot of the same. Is a T-Mobile branded S8 usable on Verizon? Full 4G or not? Thanks!
its a gsm device. i believe the internet data part will work but not phone calls
the_rooter said:
its a gsm device. i believe the internet data part will work but not phone calls
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Darn. I was hoping since they all have the same model number that it would be possible.
steven1193 said:
I've searched and cant find anything but the bands for either service. Which they use a lot of the same. Is a T-Mobile branded S8 usable on Verizon? Full 4G or not? Thanks!
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Call Verizon with your IMEI # and they can check if it's compatible with their network.
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I've searched and cant find anything but the bands for either service. Which they use a lot of the same. Is a T-Mobile branded S8 usable on Verizon? Full 4G or not? Thanks!
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If you unlock it...it will work just fine.
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I've searched and cant find anything but the bands for either service. Which they use a lot of the same. Is a T-Mobile branded S8 usable on Verizon? Full 4G or not? Thanks!
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Did you ever figure out if this was possible? I can't seem to find a definitive answer.
Bump - anyone know if this will work?
As soon as I get mine unlocked I'll let you know as I have Verizon. All s8 models are the same but I'm sure the T-Mobile software has blocked Verizon bands. I'm sure if you flash Verizon software it will work just fine.
I have an unlocked T-Mobile Galaxy S8+ and it does not work on Verizon. I went into a Verizon store and they tried for an hour to activate the phone to no avail. They tried multiple different SIM cards and none of them worked. If anyone has better luck, please let me know. But they weren't able to figure it out at Verizon.
herbn said:
I have an unlocked T-Mobile Galaxy S8+ and it does not work on Verizon. I went into a Verizon store and they tried for an hour to activate the phone to no avail. They tried multiple different SIM cards and none of them worked. If anyone has better luck, please let me know. But they weren't able to figure it out at Verizon.
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You need an unlocked Tmobile S8 or S8 plus.
Read the instruction in "Flash any carrier 100%" to flash to the carrier you desired, activate all bands.
Then use it on Verizon.
You need to flash your phone to Verizon to work. I did the exact opposite actually. I bought a Verizon device and flashed it fully to T-Mobile. Works perfect on T-Mobile because every US Galaxy S8 for the major carriers is SM-G950U. They support each other's bands, their just disabled by the carrier firmware.
ItzApp said:
You need to flash your phone to Verizon to work. I did the exact opposite actually. I bought a Verizon device and flashed it fully to T-Mobile. Works perfect on T-Mobile because every US Galaxy S8 for the major carriers is SM-G950U. They support each other's bands, their just disabled by the carrier firmware.
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Wifi calling too? Digits?
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blaine07 said:
Wifi calling too? Digits?
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Don't know about Digits because I don't use it, but Wi-Fi calling does work. I get the T-Mobile boot logo too.
How do I flash verizon firmware to an unlocked mobile s8?
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How do I flash verizon firmware to an unlocked mobile s8?
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I did not have any luck flashing it to the official Verizon Firmware, but I was able to flash it to the G955U1 firmware. The official unlocked US Firmware. Make sure your t mobile device is SIM unlocked by TMOBILE before you do this.
1. SIM unlock device by tmobile (pay off device, meet the 40 day requirement, etc).
2. Flash to G955U1 (S8+) or G950U1 (S8).
3. Insert Verizon SIM or ATT or any SIM.
4. Your phone will give you pop up warning saying it needs to restart to configure the new SIM.
5. Enjoy your new carrier.
Did you use a Verizon SIM and did you get both VoLTE and WiFi calling to work with the G955U1 FW?
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Aephel said:
I did not have any luck flashing it to the official Verizon Firmware, but I was able to flash it to the G955U1 firmware. The official unlocked US Firmware. Make sure your t mobile device is SIM unlocked by TMOBILE before you do this.
1. SIM unlock device by tmobile (pay off device, meet the 40 day requirement, etc).
2. Flash to G955U1 (S8+) or G950U1 (S8).
3. Insert Verizon SIM or ATT or any SIM.
4. Your phone will give you pop up warning saying it needs to restart to configure the new SIM.
5. Enjoy your new carrier.
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equake said:
Did you use a Verizon SIM and did you get both VoLTE and WiFi calling to work with the G955U1 FW?
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I went to Verizon store and used one of their Verizon SIMS from a display model of the S8+. Voice over LTE works, Data works and I was not able to test Wifi Calling at the store. I even ran a speed test and had about 27mpbs down and the associate ran speed test on his phone and he got about 20mpbs down connected to the same server using the Speedtest app. I ran the LTE discovery app and shows me connected to LTE Band 13.
Hope all of this helps.
Bringing S8 to sprint?
Did you anybody try to use a TMobile or other branded S8 on Sprint? The Sprint customer support is not able to add the IMEI to their database for whatever reason.
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Silly question, but does doing all this void Warranty? or is there no such issue anymore?
For example flashing Verizon Firmware onto a Tmobile Unlocked.
I unlocked my t-mobile s8 plus and attempted to use a Verizon SIM. It does NOT work. Verizon states that the IMEI is not in there database and that they cannot activate it.