Hi,
Is the Exynos 5433 processor found in the Galaxy Note 4(SM-N910C) is a 64 bit processor or is it a 64 bit capable but a 32 bit processor in Note 4?
Gowtham34 said:
Hi,
Is the Exynos 5433 processor found in the Galaxy Note 4(SM-N910C) is a 64 bit processor or is it a 64 bit capable but a 32 bit processor in Note 4?
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64 bit processor running on 32 bit OS.
jdomadia said:
64 bit processor running on 32 bit OS.
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thanks..
so, the Android L update which will be coming in the future, will it be a 32 bit one or 64 bit?
Gowtham34 said:
thanks..
so, the Android L update which will be coming in the future, will it be a 32 bit one or 64 bit?
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We can hope but answer only Samsung knows.
Gowtham34 said:
thanks..
so, the Android L update which will be coming in the future, will it be a 32 bit one or 64 bit?
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Nothing's for sure yet, but I would say it's going to be 32 bit as well. I have my reasons which I wont bore you with right now. But the bottom line is, if you want a Snapdragon Note 4, don't let the distinct possibility of having a 64 bit device in the future alter your thinking process.
KarimSalloum said:
Nothing's for sure yet, but I would say it's going to be 32 bit as well. I have my reasons which I wont bore you with right now. But the bottom line is, if you want a Snapdragon Note 4, don't let the distinct possibility of having a 64 bit device in the future alter your thinking process.
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What I would love is a 64 bit device from Samsung and my plan was for Galaxy S6.
But, I also need a device with removable battery as this can help me in recovering from most Custom Rom flash problems. And after seeing the latest Unibody leaks of S6, I have decided for Note 4 if this is going to be true since Note 5 will also be a unibody if S6 is.
Also, I dont rate the Samsung Battery to be as good as Apple and sure would cause battery drain problems in 2 years and I am not one who buy a new phone for every year.
Actually, I am still living with my Galaxy S1 and is nearly 4 years old right now. I would really appreciate if someone can upgrade my GS1 with latest hardware as it is already running Kitkat CM11 ..
Gowtham34 said:
What I would love is a 64 bit device from Samsung and my plan was for Galaxy S6.
But, I also need a device with removable battery as this can help me in recovering from most Custom Rom flash problems. And after seeing the latest Unibody leaks of S6, I have decided for Note 4 if this is going to be true since Note 5 will also be a unibody if S6 is.
Also, I dont rate the Samsung Battery to be as good as Apple and sure would cause battery drain problems in 2 years and I am not one who buy a new phone for every year.
Actually, I am still living with my Galaxy S1 and is nearly 4 years old right now. I would really appreciate if someone can upgrade my GS1 with latest hardware as it is already running Kitkat CM11 ..
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If you're changing your phone every 4 years, you should wait for a SD 810 device for sure. It's much more future-proof.
The Exynos Note 4 runs 32-bit software on 64-bit hardware. So far, I wasn't even able to find 64-bit custom ROMs for it.
However, the Galaxy A7 has the same CPU (Exynos 5433), and apparently has 64-bit Android.
Would it be possible to get 64-bit support on the Note 4 by porting A7 ROMs?
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EDIT: It seems the A7 is 5430, not 5433. However, the Tab S2 9.7 has an an Exynos 5433 CPU (rebranded as "7410" according to some sources), and is 64-bit - although the tablet-specific userland unlikely to make sense on a Note 4, combining Tab S2 frameworks with Note 5 userland apps could work.
Tab S2 firmware is also 32bit.
.NetRolller 3D said:
The Exynos Note 4 runs 32-bit software on 64-bit hardware. So far, I wasn't even able to find 64-bit custom ROMs for it.
However, the Galaxy A7 has the same CPU (Exynos 5433), and apparently has 64-bit Android.
Would it be possible to get 64-bit support on the Note 4 by porting A7 ROMs?
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EDIT: It seems the A7 is 5430, not 5433. However, the Tab S2 9.7 has an an Exynos 5433 CPU (rebranded as "7410" according to some sources), and is 64-bit - although the tablet-specific userland unlikely to make sense on a Note 4, combining Tab S2 frameworks with Note 5 userland apps could work.
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The exynos note4 is locked 32 bit. We would need Samsung to either unlock it or release the bootloader source code. AFAIK without a 64 bit bootloader the n4 will stay 32 bit
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Asking for this because there is not a single thing like armv8a written in build.prop , So i guess we r using 32 bit android, also this is in build.prop
ro.product.cpu.abi=armeabi-v7a (not armv8)
ro.product.cpu.abi2=armeabi
ro.product.cpu.abilist64= (just empty)
ro.product.cpu.abilist32=armeabi-v7a,armeabi
JJSingh said:
Asking for this because there is not a single thing like armv8a written in build.prop , So i guess we r using 32 bit android, also this is in build.prop
ro.product.cpu.abi=armeabi-v7a (not armv8)
ro.product.cpu.abi2=armeabi
ro.product.cpu.abilist64= (just empty)
ro.product.cpu.abilist32=armeabi-v7a,armeabi
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Yes bro its OS is 32 bit. Since its processor are based on armv7. And it won't be a trouble as the chip inside is not that powerful.
Ankit_29 said:
No bro. Common its 2017 almost every device is 64 bit.
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al the latest moto G phones have 64 bit processor and 32 bit system... and the g5 plus is not an exception.
Then the software of both devices is 32 bit? That's a little disappointing
dhk.- said:
al the latest moto G phones have 64 bit processor and 32 bit system... and the g5 plus is not an exception.
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Sorry I read it wrong. I thought he was talking about processor. Edited my post hope so this time I am correct.:silly:
dhk.- said:
al the latest moto G phones have 64 bit processor and 32 bit system... and the g5 plus is not an exception.
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lol that is freking weird. but that matters? i mean upto how much extent. what if we had 64 bit os?
Thanks guys, i also did confirmed this myself ,os is 32 bit only although we have 64 bit compatible processor and even 4 gb ram . I donno whats wrong with motorola....
Ankit_29 said:
Yes bro its OS is 32 bit. Since its processor are based on armv7. And it won't be a trouble as the chip inside is not that powerful.
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Bro snapdragon 625 is not a low end chip, it's powerful enough to run ur phone smooth, and it's based on armv8a and that makes it backward compatible to armv7....so this phone is supposed to run 64 bit os , but u knw moto
JJSingh said:
Thanks guys, i also did confirmed this myself ,os is 32 bit only although we have 64 bit compatible processor and even 4 gb ram . I donno whats wrong with motorola....
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bcz i think to unify the system for all variants. g5 plus also has 2 and 3 gb ram varints. it must be something which moto has taken into account while pushing 32 bit. so i guess we are good here.lol
rayzen6 said:
bcz i think to unify the system for all variants. g5 plus also has 2 and 3 gb ram varints. it must be something which moto has taken into account while pushing 32 bit. so i guess we are good here.lol
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Well i think u r right, 64 bit os would b heavy for 2 gb model... i hope we will get 64 bit lineage os sonn...
JJSingh said:
Bro snapdragon 625 is not a low end chip, it's powerful enough to run ur phone smooth, and it's based on armv8a and that makes it backward compatible to armv7....so this phone is supposed to run 64 bit os , but u knw moto
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Please let me know where I have said SD625 a "low-end chipset". As far I know and own the device and went through several test it shows armv7 (SS attached).
Ankit_29 said:
Please let me know where I have said SD625 a "low-end chipset". As far I know and own the device and went through several test it shows armv7 (SS attached).
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broo your imei.
@rayzen6
Thank you bro. I didn't noticed it.
I have changed it. Hope no one has downloaded the pic.
Ankit_29 said:
@rayzen6
Thank you bro. I didn't noticed it.
I have changed it. Hope no one has downloaded the pic.
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:good:
JJSingh said:
Well i think u r right, 64 bit os would b heavy for 2 gb model... i hope we will get 64 bit lineage os sonn...
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It is not software related. If the hardware is v7, you will not get 64 bit lineage
PunchUp said:
It is not software related. If the hardware is v7, you will not get 64 bit lineage
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SD625 is 64-bit capable.
KapilFaujdar said:
SD625 is 64-bit capable.
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You don't get the point. Even if it is a 64 bit SOC, rest of the hardware follows v7 architecture (as SD625 is backward compatible). So it impossible to run 64 bit OS on this device.
What about ram usability
Since we are running a 32 bit Android version 4 GB ram variant is good can Android OS utilise all the 4gb of ram?
ags34 said:
Since we are running a 32 bit Android version 4 GB ram variant is good can Android OS utilise all the 4gb of ram?
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4 GB is the maximum a 32 bit architecture can support. So yes, it's fully utilised
PunchUp said:
4 GB is the maximum a 32 bit architecture can support. So yes, it's fully utilised
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The physically addressable memory has not much to do with the "bitness" of the architecture. Most armv7a implementations support lpae (large physical address extension) and can thus address more than 4GB. Actually, I bet this extension is used on the 4GB variant as you also have I/O mapped into the physical address space and would be unable to utilize all of the RAM.
The 32 Bit architecture only confines the virtual address space *per process* to 4GB. Since some of that address space is used to map in shared objects (libraries), stack, kernel interfaces etc. you can usually only use 2-3 GB of RAM per process. This is hardly an issue for a phone (unless you run the Facebook app ). For servers (especially databases etc.) this limitation is an issue and the reason why 64 bit architectures are used there.
AArch64 has some other benefits, such as twice the amount of general purpose registers, 64 bit wide registers (obviously) which allow for 64 bit math, mandatory extensions (no need to check, compiler can just use NEON e.g.) etc. So it's sad that Motorola is not using the SoC's potential.
As for custom ROMs: You'd need a 64 bit kernel which supports the Moto's hardware, 64 bits gfx drivers. Not easy. And then you still need to hope that you can somehow convince the bootloader to boot your kernel in AArch64 state -- which may not be possible. Thus it is extremely unlikely that you get 64 bit support from the community.
Can someone check the bits of Android OS (Not CPU) on J7 Pro from AnTuTu benchmark? Info tab. Not do any benchmark, only OS info. Thanks..
veli123 said:
Can someone check the bits of Android OS (Not CPU) on J7 Pro from AnTuTu benchmark? Info tab. Not do any benchmark, only OS info. Thanks..
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The os is 32 bit
The soc is 64bit capable
razkal1 said:
The os is 32 bit
The soc is 64bit capable
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Oh.. I have J7 2017 and it's the same. What does it mean - I have 32 bit phone?? What's the logic of 32 bit OS on 64 bit CPU?
veli123 said:
Oh.. I have J7 2017 and it's the same. What does it mean - I have 32 bit phone?? What's the logic of 32 bit OS on 64 bit CPU?
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Good point a bit dumb really... There must be a reason, i dont know it though
Still no 64 bit (custom) roms available for the J7 2017 ?
The OS/kernel is compiled for 32bit because it uses slightly less memory. It's a bit dumb though, because the Exynos 7880 supports 64bit by default and the phones with it don't have much more memory than the ones with the 7870, the 7870 is in general older though.
What is the difference between 64 and 32 bit os?
I know i can launch 64 bit apps but is there any difference in performance or ram management and other that?