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return xt1687 to stock

I'm trying to get some definitive info on going back to stock so I can sale the phone. I can't find any guides that detail how to do this. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance

goast said:
I'm trying to get some definitive info on going back to stock so I can sale the phone. I can't find any guides that detail how to do this. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance
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You'll find all needed information in the first part of this tutorial (just skip the rooting part):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/how-to/how-to-root-moto-g5-plus-t3579659/post74673573
Remember to flash your last used stock firmware or a newer one, available latest firmwares for reteu/retus are 93-4 (january security patch) and 92-8 for retin (march security patch). There's also a tutorial to relock your bootloader if you wish to:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...der-moto-g5-plus-indian-t3638835/post73082304
It has to be said that a lot of users coming from 64bit custom ROMs are losing their voLTE, 4G or even IMEI when returning to stock.
If you have a nandroid backup of your stock ROM (you better have one) restore it, that would be the safest way. Or at least restore the EFS partition.
If you don't have a nandroid make one of EFS from your custom ROM and restore it if you run into one of the mentioned problems after flashing your stock firmware.
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Correction: Indian firmware is named 92-8 for march security patch not 93-8 which is for europe and US.

Wolfcity said:
You'll find all needed information in the first part of this tutorial (just skip the rooting part):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/how-to/how-to-root-moto-g5-plus-t3579659/post74673573
Remember to flash your last used stock firmware or a newer one, available latest firmwares for reteu/retus are 93-4 (january security patch) and 93-8 for retin (march security patch). There's also a tutorial to relock your bootloader if you wish to:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...der-moto-g5-plus-indian-t3638835/post73082304
It has to be said that a lot of users coming from 64bit custom ROMs are losing their voLTE, 4G or even IMEI when returning to stock.
If you have a nandroid backup of your stock ROM (you better have one) restore it, that would be the safest way. Or at least restore the EFS partition.
If you don't have a nandroid make one of EFS from your custom ROM and restore it if you run into one of the mentioned problems after flashing your stock firmware.
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Do you know if i can relock bootloader. I unlocked it while i was on 93-8 reteu, that firmware is not available anywhere, i have full nandroid backup of it but when i restore stock firmware i still can't unlock bootloader? Is my only way to wait for 93-8 firmware to come up?

Dejan Kruljac said:
Do you know if i can relock bootloader. I unlocked it while i was on 93-8 reteu, that firmware is not available anywhere, i have full nandroid backup of it but when i restore stock firmware i still can't unlock bootloader? Is my only way to wait for 93-8 firmware to come up?
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Yes. Without the firmware you are going to flash (or restore) there's no way to relock the BL.
You could try to use the indian variant which is uploaded (92-8) but that may cause trouble, the inability to receive and install future OTA or other software related issues.
The best way should be waiting for the 93-8 firmware.
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Wolfcity said:
Yes. Without the firmware you are going to flash (or restore) there's no way to relock the BL.
You could try to use the indian variant which is uploaded (92-8) but that may cause trouble, the inability to receive and install future OTA or other software related issues.
The best way should be waiting for the 93-8 firmware.
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Then i'll wait, as i wanna get official Oreo OTA. Thanks. :good:

Checking bootloader version on the phone

Hi, how do I check my current bootloader version that is on my phone? And how do i know what version of bootloader will be in any stock rom i want to flash?
I don't want to overwrite with older bootloader. Need to know the current and the next one i will flash.
My device is from Europe and I have NPN25.137-92 installed.. I think this is not the latest stock nougat for my region.
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wiceqq said:
Hi, how do I check my current bootloader version that is on my phone? And how do i know what version of bootloader will be in any stock rom i want to flash?
I don't want to overwrite with older bootloader. Need to know the current and the next one i will flash.
My device is from Europe and I have NPN25.137-92 installed.. I think this is not the latest stock nougat for my region.
Cheers.
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No need to push your question everyday. If someone is able/wants to answer he will do.
First of all: NPN25.137-92 is not the European firmware, it's the one for India and Brazil.
The latest one in Europe seems to be NPN25.137-93-14, since yesterday there is another update with version number NPN25.137-93-18 out incl. August security patch but until now only US users (software channel RETUS) have confirmed it. For India/Brazil (your firmware) the latest Nougat firmware is NPN25.137-92-14.
Have you fastboot flashed some firmware on your device so that you are on NPN25.137-92 now? That could be the reason you don´t receive any further OTA updates.
Your bootlader version should be visible when you boot into stock recovery.

Yes, I must have flashed pretty wrong firmware, and now I want to get back on the track. Though I dont remember and I dont have knowledge what was flashed before that. Now I wonder what should be my next step in order to have latest European nougat, or oreo.

wiceqq said:
Yes, I must have flashed pretty wrong firmware, and now I want to get back on the track. Though I dont remember and I dont have knowledge what was flashed before that. Now I wonder what should be my next step in order to have latest European nougat, or oreo.
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Flash latest european firmware NPN25.137-93-14 via fastboot. It can be found somwhere here in the Moto G 5+ threads or you can download it with Lenovo Smart Assistant: https://support.lenovo.com/de/de/downloads/ds101291
That should keep you back on track.
If you can't wait you can update to Oreo with the available OTA found here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...fficial-moto-g5-g5-plus-t3848246/post77856408 ( Read OP of that thread to find out how). But as I posted above there's a newer nougat firmware out in the US so you may not receive future Oreo updates if you use this OTA.
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Wolfcity said:
Flash latest european firmware NPN25.137-93-14 via fastboot. It can be found somwhere here in the Moto G 5+ threads or you can download it with Lenovo Smart Assistant: https://support.lenovo.com/de/de/downloads/ds101291
That should keep you back on track.
If you can't wait you can update to Oreo with the available OTA found here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...fficial-moto-g5-g5-plus-t3848246/post77856408 ( Read OP of that thread to find out how). But as I posted above there's a newer nougat firmware out in the US so you may not receive future Oreo updates if you use this OTA.
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Need an advice: I'm currently on POTTER_NPNS25.137-93-10, OTA says i can update it to POTTER_NPNS25.137-93-14.. Then I could get Oreo OTA from the thread above. In case of any further trouble: will it be safe to return to nougat POTTER_NPNS25.137-93-10 via fastboot? If yes, if then I update again to POTTER_NPNS25.137-93-14, it is safe to take nougat OTA again? And then oreo OTA again? Hope you get my point.

wiceqq said:
Need an advice: I'm currently on POTTER_NPNS25.137-93-10, OTA says i can update it to POTTER_NPNS25.137-93-14.. Then I could get Oreo OTA from the thread above. In case of any further trouble: will it be safe to return to nougat POTTER_NPNS25.137-93-10 via fastboot? If yes, if then I update again to POTTER_NPNS25.137-93-14, it is safe to take nougat OTA again? And then oreo OTA again? Hope you get my point.
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No, that's not safe. Downgrading is always a risky thing because of the bootloader and taking OTA after that could completely hardbrick your phone.
So if you're once on 93-14 you shouldn't flash an older firmware than this. Same applies to downgrading from Oreo to Nougat.
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Wolfcity said:
No, that's not safe. Downgrading is always a risky thing because of the bootloader and taking OTA after that could completely hardbrick your phone.
So if you're once on 93-14 you shouldn't flash an older firmware than this. Same applies to downgrading from Oreo to Nougat.
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Well, in case of firmware, I cannot find direct 93-14 fastboot rom for download. I have found 93-10 only, that's why I'm concerned about not having the most up to date rom version on my hard drive to flash in case of<>.

wiceqq said:
Well, in case of firmware, I cannot find direct 93-14 fastboot rom for download. I have found 93-10 only, that's why I'm concerned about not having the most up to date rom version on my hard drive to flash in case of<>.
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You can download it with Lenovo Smart Assistant, worked for me. I can give you a mirror too, here it is:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e4VLFL0FzXsTycC78LPRxHaPqX8MJ3iy/view?usp=drivesdk
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Wolfcity said:
You can download it with Lenovo Smart Assistant, worked for me. I can give you a mirror too, here it is:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e4VLFL0FzXsTycC78LPRxHaPqX8MJ3iy/view?usp=drivesdk
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Thank you. What in case I'm unlocked and in order to use google pay I need custom recovery and flashing magisk. How do i get back to stock oreo recovery then? I know it's a bit of offtopic, but maybe you can help me.

bootloader unlock Can You Receive Updates via Ota or No?

I am curious about these issues, my question is the following when I unlock my Bootloader I can do an update via OTA when it arrives on my device? Or is my phone going to have Hard Brick?
I want to give a Downgrande on my smartphone but it is still in stock without any modification. And through the tutorials I read ask for the unlock Bootloader. My intention is to only downgrade. A friend of mine gave the following idea: "unlock the bootloader to then downgrade and after it has been successfully done." I search how to lock the bootloader again using CMD to put a system with the bootloader locked and so in the future I will be able to receive updates via Ota. " Does This Worker Ideas In Practice?
This my Frist Post here If I make a mistake, tell me, we will not repeat.:fingers-crossed:

When it comes to being able to receive updates when bl is unlocked, that's a yes, it will work fine and won't affect your phone's functionality.
On the other hand downgrading is generally a bad idea. The problem is, when you update your phone your bootloader also gets an update. All parts of the OS except for the bootloader can be downgraded to a previous version, and if you do that, the downgraded OS can function normally on the newer bootloader.
Now comes the tricky part. If you try to do an OTA on a downgraded OS with a new bootloader, the OTA will treat the bootloader as if it were the old one, and will overwrite parts of it that it shouldn't, which will corrupt it. And there you have a pricey paperweight.
The only way of updating a downgraded device is to flash it clean with a newer version (or the version same as the bootloader).
Now what is the reason you'd want to downgrade?

After Unlocked Bootloader You Can't Get OTA Updated Even You Relock Bootloader ., tested On Moto G5s
Model X1795
However During try to Relock or downgrade Oreo 8.1 to 7.1.1 You May Get Complete Dead Your Phone as my phone goes During downgrade .

Rakesh Mahto said:
After Unlocked Bootloader You Can't Get OTA Updated Even You Relock Bootloader ., tested On Moto G5s
Model X1795
However During try to Relock or downgrade Oreo 8.1 to 7.1.1 You May Get Complete Dead Your Phone as my phone goes During downgrade .
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My bootloader is unlocked.
I wanted to upgrade to the latest firmware and because I was rooted I flashed the firmware I was on at that moment (no down - or upgrade) again and after that I was able to apply and install every single OTA up to the latest. I could have flashed the latest Oreo firmware directly too but I wanted to test this way and to update by flashing latest firmware would have been possible after that too.
So updating via OTA with an unlocked bootloader was no problem for me.
In the end you get the unlock code from Motorola itself and it would be kind of strange if they won't deliver updates anymore for a feature they provide for their devices.
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Need Android 8.1 Oreo February security Patch 2019
Wolfcity said:
My bootloader is unlocked.
I wanted to upgrade to the latest firmware and because I was rooted I flashed the firmware I was on at that moment (no down - or upgrade) again and after that I was able to apply and install every single OTA up to the latest. I could have flashed the latest Oreo firmware directly too but I wanted to test this way and to update by flashing latest firmware would have been possible after that too.
So updating via OTA with an unlocked bootloader was no problem for me.
In the end you get the unlock code from Motorola itself and it would be kind of strange if they won't deliver updates anymore for a feature they provide for their devices.
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Looking For Android 8.1 Oreo February security Patch 2019 For Moto G5s
Model: X1795
Twrp Backup Or Any Other Of Official Rom Of Android 8.1 Oreo , Including February security Patch 2019 Thanks

Rakesh Mahto said:
Looking For Android 8.1 Oreo February security Patch 2019 For Moto G5s
Model: X1795
Twrp Backup Or Any Other Of Official Rom Of Android 8.1 Oreo , Including February security Patch 2019 Thanks
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This is a thread for potter (Moto G5+) so your question most probably won't be answered here.
Move to https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g5s
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I am planning on to unlock bootloader only will I continue recieving official updates from Samsung and able to install them (not flashing that, OTA ones). I am not going to install custom recovery or kernel or even custom rom. Will it work that way?

Need help to go back stock

Hi,
i have unlocked my bootloader while i was on POTTER_RETAIL_8.1.0_OPSS28.85-17-6 . I installed twrp and a custom rom and that's fine. Now i want to go back to stock but i apparently can't because the latest firmware i can find on the internet is the OPSS28.85-17-4 and when i try to follow the guides it says i am downgrading the security patches. How can i solve this problem? Do i have to simply wait for the 17-6 firmware to be leaked? :crying:
Edit: I have a xt1687

You can just flash a twrp zip till the firmware is available

debdeep98 said:
You can just flash a twrp zip till the firmware is available
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Yes i did it. I was just wondering if that's my only option for now , ty

Prowy333 said:
Hi,
i have unlocked my bootloader while i was on POTTER_RETAIL_8.1.0_OPSS28.85-17-6 . I installed twrp and a custom rom and that's fine. Now i want to go back to stock but i apparently can't because the latest firmware i can find on the internet is the OPSS28.85-17-4 and when i try to follow the guides it says i am downgrading the security patches. How can i solve this problem? Do i have to simply wait for the 17-6 firmware to be leaked? :crying:
Edit: I have a xt1687
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You can try Lenovo Motorola Smart Assistant:
https://support.lenovo.com/de/de/downloads/ds101291
It should find the latest security patch for your device and save in on your PC.
You can fastboot flash it than.
Btw, it's not that bad to be on 17.4 because 17.6 is the last official security patch/update that Lenovo will release at all.
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Wolfcity said:
You can try Lenovo Motorola Smart Assistant:
https://support.lenovo.com/de/de/downloads/ds101291
It should find the latest security patch for your device and save in on your PC.
You can fastboot flash it than.
Btw, it's not that bad to be on 17.4 because 17.6 is the last official security patch/update that Lenovo will release at all.
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Thank you. I used the lenovo motorola smart assistant and i managed to download the latest stock rom for xt1687 which is POTTER_OPSS28.85_17_6_cid50_subsidy_DEFAULT_regulatory_DEFAULT_CFC.xml.
I don't know if i can post the image here but you can do it the same way i did. Plug the phone to your pc with the lenovo desktop app installed, enable usb debugging and go to flash. From there select manually from rescue the device and then go to fastboot. It will show the latest official image present in the phone ( even if you have a custom rom) and simply download it. When it finished don't press rescue and the image will be in
C:\ProgramData\LMSA\Download\RomFiles . If this is a repost of any kind i apologize.

Prowy333 said:
Thank you. I used the lenovo motorola smart assistant and i managed to download the latest stock rom for xt1687 which is POTTER_OPSS28.85_17_6_cid50_subsidy_DEFAULT_regulatory_DEFAULT_CFC.xml.
I don't know if i can post the image here but you can do it the same way i did. Plug the phone to your pc with the lenovo desktop app installed, enable usb debugging and go to flash. From there select manually from rescue the device and then go to fastboot. It will show the latest official image present in the phone ( even if you have a custom rom) and simply download it. When it finished don't press rescue and the image will be in
C:\ProgramData\LMSA\Download\RomFiles . If this is a repost of any kind i apologize.
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You're welcome and thank you for sharing your experience. You are allowed to share that firmware, just zip it and load it up to one of the known hosters like Dropbox or similar. But you're also right, should be possible for everyone else to do the same that you did.
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If anyone wants the stock firmware for xt1687 US version (4/64) OPSS28.85_17_6 this is it. I take no responsibility if this causes you any damage , hope it helps anyone. https://www.dropbox.com/s/pah5x5g1h...y_DEFAULT_regulatory_DEFAULT_CFC.xml.zip?dl=0
EDIT ( Just to let you know, i was on PixelExperience with android 9 before doing the procedure).

Wolfcity said:
You can try Lenovo Motorola Smart Assistant:
https://support.lenovo.com/de/de/downloads/ds101291
It should find the latest security patch for your device and save in on your PC.
You can fastboot flash it than.
Btw, it's not that bad to be on 17.4 because 17.6 is the last official security patch/update that Lenovo will release at all.
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IMO it's a shame that Lenovo has stopped supporting this phone only after two years! IMO the phone is great for it's price/performance. These short planned obsolescence is ecologically harmful. I am certainly not planning on replacing this phone unless there is another in the price range that is quantum leap better, or until 5G is ubiquitous.

Moto G4 Amz Version

Hello, i would like to ask here if someone has the same issue, i had a fully working Moto G4 AMZ Version Running Nougat, however after waiting too much and the oreo version never was released, i wanted to try to flash the firmware and update it via rsd lite with oreo version, however this resulted in my phone bricked, i tried some ways to downgrade again to nougat however i was not able since it is not possible to downgrade to stock amz firmware once i had updated it with wrong version of 8.0, so may i ask if after maybe 1 year is there any advance or release for the 8.0 amz version firmware? i think the only solution for this is to send the device back to motorola, but i will ask first here any other ideas?
Thank you in Advance
Henser.

Use lenovo save and rescue to unbrick your phone.
I’ve tried installing stock moto G4 Android 8.1 and no luck. This is with boot loader unlocked, custom kernel and root. No luck.

same issue, i try from time to time to recover the device with no luck, still waiting for a solution with bootloader locked