return xt1687 to stock - Moto G5 Plus Questions & Answers

I'm trying to get some definitive info on going back to stock so I can sale the phone. I can't find any guides that detail how to do this. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance

goast said:
I'm trying to get some definitive info on going back to stock so I can sale the phone. I can't find any guides that detail how to do this. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance
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You'll find all needed information in the first part of this tutorial (just skip the rooting part):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/how-to/how-to-root-moto-g5-plus-t3579659/post74673573
Remember to flash your last used stock firmware or a newer one, available latest firmwares for reteu/retus are 93-4 (january security patch) and 92-8 for retin (march security patch). There's also a tutorial to relock your bootloader if you wish to:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...der-moto-g5-plus-indian-t3638835/post73082304
It has to be said that a lot of users coming from 64bit custom ROMs are losing their voLTE, 4G or even IMEI when returning to stock.
If you have a nandroid backup of your stock ROM (you better have one) restore it, that would be the safest way. Or at least restore the EFS partition.
If you don't have a nandroid make one of EFS from your custom ROM and restore it if you run into one of the mentioned problems after flashing your stock firmware.
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Correction: Indian firmware is named 92-8 for march security patch not 93-8 which is for europe and US.

Wolfcity said:
You'll find all needed information in the first part of this tutorial (just skip the rooting part):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/how-to/how-to-root-moto-g5-plus-t3579659/post74673573
Remember to flash your last used stock firmware or a newer one, available latest firmwares for reteu/retus are 93-4 (january security patch) and 93-8 for retin (march security patch). There's also a tutorial to relock your bootloader if you wish to:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...der-moto-g5-plus-indian-t3638835/post73082304
It has to be said that a lot of users coming from 64bit custom ROMs are losing their voLTE, 4G or even IMEI when returning to stock.
If you have a nandroid backup of your stock ROM (you better have one) restore it, that would be the safest way. Or at least restore the EFS partition.
If you don't have a nandroid make one of EFS from your custom ROM and restore it if you run into one of the mentioned problems after flashing your stock firmware.
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Do you know if i can relock bootloader. I unlocked it while i was on 93-8 reteu, that firmware is not available anywhere, i have full nandroid backup of it but when i restore stock firmware i still can't unlock bootloader? Is my only way to wait for 93-8 firmware to come up?

Dejan Kruljac said:
Do you know if i can relock bootloader. I unlocked it while i was on 93-8 reteu, that firmware is not available anywhere, i have full nandroid backup of it but when i restore stock firmware i still can't unlock bootloader? Is my only way to wait for 93-8 firmware to come up?
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Yes. Without the firmware you are going to flash (or restore) there's no way to relock the BL.
You could try to use the indian variant which is uploaded (92-8) but that may cause trouble, the inability to receive and install future OTA or other software related issues.
The best way should be waiting for the 93-8 firmware.
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Wolfcity said:
Yes. Without the firmware you are going to flash (or restore) there's no way to relock the BL.
You could try to use the indian variant which is uploaded (92-8) but that may cause trouble, the inability to receive and install future OTA or other software related issues.
The best way should be waiting for the 93-8 firmware.
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Then i'll wait, as i wanna get official Oreo OTA. Thanks. :good:

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Not getting OTA after flashing Jan patch and the May patch as well. G5 Plus XT1686.

Flashed the NPN25.137-35 (Jan patch) stock rom on my moto g 5 plus to unbrick my phone. Went well but after booting, I'm not getting any OTA updates.
Flashed a newer version of the firmware - POTTER_NPNS25.137-35-5 (May patch) by following a video. Still not getting any updates.
PLEASE HELP!
Please reply guys!
roydhritiman said:
Flashed the NPN25.137-35 (Jan patch) stock rom on my moto g 5 plus to unbrick my phone. Went well but after booting, I'm not getting any OTA updates.
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I explain you based on my experience: You will never receive any more OTA as you don't have in sync the OEM partition. The OTAs check the "build.prop" in SYSTEM and the "oem.prop" in OEM. A lot of firmwares here for flashing your device lacks the OEM partition.
So, try to reflash a full firmware.
I hope it helps you!
manos78 said:
I explain you based on my experience: You will never receive any more OTA as you don't have in sync the OEM partition. The OTAs check the "build.prop" in SYSTEM and the "oem.prop" in OEM. A lot of firmwares here for flashing your device lacks the OEM partition.
So, try to reflash a full firmware.
I hope it helps you!
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how do i get a full firmware? links? moto g 5 plus INDIA
roydhritiman said:
how do i get a full firmware? links? moto g 5 plus INDIA
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Search in the forum!
Thread with all stock firmwares: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/how-to/firmwares-moto-g5-plus-t3593160
Repo 1: https://firmware.center/firmware/Motorola/Moto G5 Plus/Stock/
Repo 2: https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/potter/official/RETAIL/
I don't know why it's for Indian version. However, search for the "release number" in this thread of "TWRP" (not full) ROMs:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/development/rom-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-t3675616
Regards!
roydhritiman said:
how do i get a full firmware? links? moto g 5 plus INDIA
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/help/npns-version-to-npn-version-t3692516
There's a link posted there for the latest Indian firmware i.e NPN25.135-67-5
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Search in the forum!
Thread with all stock firmwares: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/how-to/firmwares-moto-g5-plus-t3593160
Repo 1: https://firmware.center/firmware/Motorola/Moto G5 Plus/Stock/
Repo 2: https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/potter/official/RETAIL/
I don't know why it's for Indian version. However, search for the "release number" in this thread of "TWRP" (not full) ROMs:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/development/rom-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-t3675616
Regards!
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I flashed the Brazil ROM (.15 version) on my G5 Plus and got the OTA update to the .67 version. After installing the update, the device went into a hard bricked state. No bootloader. Only the LED blinks when the device is connected. Tried reviving the bootloader using blankflash but it fails each time I try.
roydhritiman said:
I flashed the Brazil ROM (.15 version) on my G5 Plus and got the OTA update to the .67 version. After installing the update, the device went into a hard bricked state. No bootloader. Only the LED blinks when the device is connected. Tried reviving the bootloader using blankflash but it fails each time I try.
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Yeah, attempting to downgrade from the retail US May 2017 patch (NPNS25.137-35-5) to the Indian/Brazil .15 firmware and then attempting to take OTA updates has caused hard bricks previously.
Which blankflashes have you tried? Does the albus (Moto Z2 Play) blankflash work? https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73062532&postcount=15 I do not know if any of the Moto Z Play blankflashes may work (given the similar hardware) or may not depending on how new they are.
echo92 said:
Yeah, attempting to downgrade from the retail US May 2017 patch (NPNS25.137-35-5) to the Indian/Brazil .15 firmware and then attempting to take OTA updates has caused hard bricks previously.
Which blankflashes have you tried? Does the albus (Moto Z2 Play) blankflash work? https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73062532&postcount=15 I do not know if any of the Moto Z Play blankflashes may work (given the similar hardware) or may not depending on how new they are.
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Oh hey it got fixed. Flashed the debloated and deodexed ROM for the g5 plus. This is the ROM that's advised to flash after a hard brick, for this phone. And yeah I used the Albus blankflash. It worked successfully!
roydhritiman said:
Oh hey it got fixed. Flashed the debloated and deodexed ROM for the g5 plus. This is the ROM that's advised to flash after a hard brick, for this phone. And yeah I used the Albus blankflash. It worked successfully!
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Good to hear you got your device working. I imagine you could flash the TWRP flashables if you wanted a more updated system (since these flashables don't affect the GPT/bootloader, where the majority of the hard bricks seem to arise): https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/development/rom-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-t3675616
echo92 said:
Good to hear you got your device working. I imagine you could flash the TWRP flashables if you wanted a more updated system (since these flashables don't affect the GPT/bootloader, where the majority of the hard bricks seem to arise): https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/development/rom-twrp-flashable-stock-builds-t3675616
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Airtight I shall!

How to downgrade to stock from soak test oreo

So I installed Oreo soak test on Moto G5 plus which was shared by link over stock Nougat build with august security patch.But i want to go back to nougat with august security patch from this soak test build...How can i do that without bricking and losing imei etc.I have not rooted or unlocked bootlader ever...and yes i read some threads but none of them are matching my current situation ,so please guide me through proper process .
Well I'm in the same situation. And I was having wifi issues. Bt I managed to fix it. From what I've read so far you cannot downgrade the bootloader. So you can flash using fastboot bt leave out the gpt and bootloader commands. I'm not sure if this will let you download OTAs. I haven't tried it out yet. Or if u manage to get the C092 bootloader unlocked ( some people managed) then you install TWRP and flash a stock nougat zip. Or you will have to wait for someone to capture the actual 85-16 OTA , make a zip of it and then update. There was a guide for flashing, it was for g4 series to downgrade from N to MM, the commands should be the same. Hope this helps.
Can anyone share official oreo update zip?Not talking about soak test one.

Checking bootloader version on the phone

Hi, how do I check my current bootloader version that is on my phone? And how do i know what version of bootloader will be in any stock rom i want to flash?
I don't want to overwrite with older bootloader. Need to know the current and the next one i will flash.
My device is from Europe and I have NPN25.137-92 installed.. I think this is not the latest stock nougat for my region.
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wiceqq said:
Hi, how do I check my current bootloader version that is on my phone? And how do i know what version of bootloader will be in any stock rom i want to flash?
I don't want to overwrite with older bootloader. Need to know the current and the next one i will flash.
My device is from Europe and I have NPN25.137-92 installed.. I think this is not the latest stock nougat for my region.
Cheers.
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No need to push your question everyday. If someone is able/wants to answer he will do.
First of all: NPN25.137-92 is not the European firmware, it's the one for India and Brazil.
The latest one in Europe seems to be NPN25.137-93-14, since yesterday there is another update with version number NPN25.137-93-18 out incl. August security patch but until now only US users (software channel RETUS) have confirmed it. For India/Brazil (your firmware) the latest Nougat firmware is NPN25.137-92-14.
Have you fastboot flashed some firmware on your device so that you are on NPN25.137-92 now? That could be the reason you donĀ“t receive any further OTA updates.
Your bootlader version should be visible when you boot into stock recovery.
Yes, I must have flashed pretty wrong firmware, and now I want to get back on the track. Though I dont remember and I dont have knowledge what was flashed before that. Now I wonder what should be my next step in order to have latest European nougat, or oreo.
wiceqq said:
Yes, I must have flashed pretty wrong firmware, and now I want to get back on the track. Though I dont remember and I dont have knowledge what was flashed before that. Now I wonder what should be my next step in order to have latest European nougat, or oreo.
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Flash latest european firmware NPN25.137-93-14 via fastboot. It can be found somwhere here in the Moto G 5+ threads or you can download it with Lenovo Smart Assistant: https://support.lenovo.com/de/de/downloads/ds101291
That should keep you back on track.
If you can't wait you can update to Oreo with the available OTA found here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...fficial-moto-g5-g5-plus-t3848246/post77856408 ( Read OP of that thread to find out how). But as I posted above there's a newer nougat firmware out in the US so you may not receive future Oreo updates if you use this OTA.
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Wolfcity said:
Flash latest european firmware NPN25.137-93-14 via fastboot. It can be found somwhere here in the Moto G 5+ threads or you can download it with Lenovo Smart Assistant: https://support.lenovo.com/de/de/downloads/ds101291
That should keep you back on track.
If you can't wait you can update to Oreo with the available OTA found here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5...fficial-moto-g5-g5-plus-t3848246/post77856408 ( Read OP of that thread to find out how). But as I posted above there's a newer nougat firmware out in the US so you may not receive future Oreo updates if you use this OTA.
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Need an advice: I'm currently on POTTER_NPNS25.137-93-10, OTA says i can update it to POTTER_NPNS25.137-93-14.. Then I could get Oreo OTA from the thread above. In case of any further trouble: will it be safe to return to nougat POTTER_NPNS25.137-93-10 via fastboot? If yes, if then I update again to POTTER_NPNS25.137-93-14, it is safe to take nougat OTA again? And then oreo OTA again? Hope you get my point.
wiceqq said:
Need an advice: I'm currently on POTTER_NPNS25.137-93-10, OTA says i can update it to POTTER_NPNS25.137-93-14.. Then I could get Oreo OTA from the thread above. In case of any further trouble: will it be safe to return to nougat POTTER_NPNS25.137-93-10 via fastboot? If yes, if then I update again to POTTER_NPNS25.137-93-14, it is safe to take nougat OTA again? And then oreo OTA again? Hope you get my point.
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No, that's not safe. Downgrading is always a risky thing because of the bootloader and taking OTA after that could completely hardbrick your phone.
So if you're once on 93-14 you shouldn't flash an older firmware than this. Same applies to downgrading from Oreo to Nougat.
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Wolfcity said:
No, that's not safe. Downgrading is always a risky thing because of the bootloader and taking OTA after that could completely hardbrick your phone.
So if you're once on 93-14 you shouldn't flash an older firmware than this. Same applies to downgrading from Oreo to Nougat.
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Well, in case of firmware, I cannot find direct 93-14 fastboot rom for download. I have found 93-10 only, that's why I'm concerned about not having the most up to date rom version on my hard drive to flash in case of<>.
wiceqq said:
Well, in case of firmware, I cannot find direct 93-14 fastboot rom for download. I have found 93-10 only, that's why I'm concerned about not having the most up to date rom version on my hard drive to flash in case of<>.
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You can download it with Lenovo Smart Assistant, worked for me. I can give you a mirror too, here it is:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e4VLFL0FzXsTycC78LPRxHaPqX8MJ3iy/view?usp=drivesdk
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Wolfcity said:
You can download it with Lenovo Smart Assistant, worked for me. I can give you a mirror too, here it is:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1e4VLFL0FzXsTycC78LPRxHaPqX8MJ3iy/view?usp=drivesdk
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Thank you. What in case I'm unlocked and in order to use google pay I need custom recovery and flashing magisk. How do i get back to stock oreo recovery then? I know it's a bit of offtopic, but maybe you can help me.

bootloader unlock Can You Receive Updates via Ota or No?

I am curious about these issues, my question is the following when I unlock my Bootloader I can do an update via OTA when it arrives on my device? Or is my phone going to have Hard Brick?
I want to give a Downgrande on my smartphone but it is still in stock without any modification. And through the tutorials I read ask for the unlock Bootloader. My intention is to only downgrade. A friend of mine gave the following idea: "unlock the bootloader to then downgrade and after it has been successfully done." I search how to lock the bootloader again using CMD to put a system with the bootloader locked and so in the future I will be able to receive updates via Ota. " Does This Worker Ideas In Practice?
This my Frist Post here If I make a mistake, tell me, we will not repeat.:fingers-crossed:
When it comes to being able to receive updates when bl is unlocked, that's a yes, it will work fine and won't affect your phone's functionality.
On the other hand downgrading is generally a bad idea. The problem is, when you update your phone your bootloader also gets an update. All parts of the OS except for the bootloader can be downgraded to a previous version, and if you do that, the downgraded OS can function normally on the newer bootloader.
Now comes the tricky part. If you try to do an OTA on a downgraded OS with a new bootloader, the OTA will treat the bootloader as if it were the old one, and will overwrite parts of it that it shouldn't, which will corrupt it. And there you have a pricey paperweight.
The only way of updating a downgraded device is to flash it clean with a newer version (or the version same as the bootloader).
Now what is the reason you'd want to downgrade?
After Unlocked Bootloader You Can't Get OTA Updated Even You Relock Bootloader ., tested On Moto G5s
Model X1795
However During try to Relock or downgrade Oreo 8.1 to 7.1.1 You May Get Complete Dead Your Phone as my phone goes During downgrade .
Rakesh Mahto said:
After Unlocked Bootloader You Can't Get OTA Updated Even You Relock Bootloader ., tested On Moto G5s
Model X1795
However During try to Relock or downgrade Oreo 8.1 to 7.1.1 You May Get Complete Dead Your Phone as my phone goes During downgrade .
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My bootloader is unlocked.
I wanted to upgrade to the latest firmware and because I was rooted I flashed the firmware I was on at that moment (no down - or upgrade) again and after that I was able to apply and install every single OTA up to the latest. I could have flashed the latest Oreo firmware directly too but I wanted to test this way and to update by flashing latest firmware would have been possible after that too.
So updating via OTA with an unlocked bootloader was no problem for me.
In the end you get the unlock code from Motorola itself and it would be kind of strange if they won't deliver updates anymore for a feature they provide for their devices.
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Need Android 8.1 Oreo February security Patch 2019
Wolfcity said:
My bootloader is unlocked.
I wanted to upgrade to the latest firmware and because I was rooted I flashed the firmware I was on at that moment (no down - or upgrade) again and after that I was able to apply and install every single OTA up to the latest. I could have flashed the latest Oreo firmware directly too but I wanted to test this way and to update by flashing latest firmware would have been possible after that too.
So updating via OTA with an unlocked bootloader was no problem for me.
In the end you get the unlock code from Motorola itself and it would be kind of strange if they won't deliver updates anymore for a feature they provide for their devices.
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Looking For Android 8.1 Oreo February security Patch 2019 For Moto G5s
Model: X1795
Twrp Backup Or Any Other Of Official Rom Of Android 8.1 Oreo , Including February security Patch 2019 Thanks
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Looking For Android 8.1 Oreo February security Patch 2019 For Moto G5s
Model: X1795
Twrp Backup Or Any Other Of Official Rom Of Android 8.1 Oreo , Including February security Patch 2019 Thanks
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This is a thread for potter (Moto G5+) so your question most probably won't be answered here.
Move to https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g5s
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I am planning on to unlock bootloader only will I continue recieving official updates from Samsung and able to install them (not flashing that, OTA ones). I am not going to install custom recovery or kernel or even custom rom. Will it work that way?

OEM ROMs help

Before I flashed to LineageOS, I performed a get var all and seen the phone was on 8.1.0_OPS28.85-17-6-2.
If I wanted to go all the way back to 7.0 (which the phone was on, but I updated it to 8.1 OTA), which 7.0_NPN25.137-xx file should I use ? Phone is US XT1687.
Thanks.
Nivead said:
Before I flashed to LineageOS, I performed a get var all and seen the phone was on 8.1.0_OPS28.85-17-6-2.
If I wanted to go all the way back to 7.0 (which the phone was on, but I updated it to 8.1 OTA), which 7.0_NPN25.137-xx file should I use ? Phone is US XT1687.
Thanks.
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You can install stock nougat of any version, just remove the bootloader and gpt commands from fastboot.
Nivead said:
Before I flashed to LineageOS, I performed a get var all and seen the phone was on 8.1.0_OPS28.85-17-6-2.
If I wanted to go all the way back to 7.0 (which the phone was on, but I updated it to 8.1 OTA), which 7.0_NPN25.137-xx file should I use ? Phone is US XT1687.
Thanks.
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Here are the most signed Motorola firmwares, yours should be RETUS:
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/potter/official/
And as written above never downgrade the bootloader, that will brick your device.
Which version is the last 7.0 can be found by Google, most probably it's 25.137-18 in the US.
May I ask why you want to roll back to 7.0?
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