Hello,
Does anybody have issues with portrait mode pictures - comes out mostly blurry or grainy (especialy indoors). There seems to be too much zoom?
I'm on global miui 11
Portrait mode takes shots with a telephoto (2x zoom) camera which resolution is 8 mpx compared to the main camera 48 mpx. IF you want to shoot a portrait with the main camera you need to enable a full-body setting in the top left corner I think. Btw happy Christmas
Dawidqo said:
Portrait mode takes shots with a telephoto (2x zoom) camera which resolution is 8 mpx compared to the main camera 48 mpx. IF you want to shoot a portrait with the main camera you need to enable a full-body setting in the top left corner I think. Btw happy Christmas
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Pop Up selfie camera is 20MP and makes very decent photos, it's way better compared to my previous Mix 2S, but really depends what you compare it to. Keep it in Auto HDR and it's foolproof
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Hello all ..,
today i bring you a little comparison of the top 2 i say cameras till now on the market .. Mighty bright Z1 vs Chunky camera zoom
maybe some of you know that i gave my wife the Z1 and got me the S4 zoom cause i was more into more manual control ... any yes its a camera not a phone but with compromising to the form factor.
so today jumped to my mind to do a comparison between both ... how do the Bright f/2.0 lens will match the dim f/3.1 in low light quick snaps ... why in quick snaps because the zoom could manipulate anything u need to give you the type of picture you want BUT in quick snaps you will not stand a time to play with manual settings. so for casual shots which is which ?
it turned out a little surprise ... the Z1 is a very good very good shooters for casual shots.
to make it easy i used manual mode 8mp (to allow over sampling) 16:9 all auto on the Z1 and 4:3 16mp (default) all auto (except some highlighted photos) to the zoom.
so lets roll to the photos ... all low lights
Galaxy Camera Auto settings all ranged between 1/6sec iso1250 while Z1 auto settings ranges from 1/10-1/16 iso400
Dim room
Zoom Auto
Z1 night mode
Zoom auto
Zoom night mode
Z1 3x lossless Zoom Auto 8Mp
Zoom Zoom Auto
Super dim Z1 Night mode 0.8sec iso200 f/2
Here i set the Zoom to same parameters as Z1 0.8sec iso200 but f/3.1 .. see the difference of the wider aperature Amazing
Some Manual adjustments with the Zoom Longer shutter
Z1 3x lossless zoom flash on
Zoom Zoom Auto
Zoom Zoom falsh Off
Strong Artificial light Inca.flour. Tungesten
Z1
Zoom Camera
Z1
Zoom
For me ... Z1 is better in quick snapshots press and shot due to bright f/2 better contrast added sharpness too but the white balance isn't accurate while galaxy camera better white balance the Zoom if played in Expert mode will give u any output u need but u have to know whats ur doin.
I will do some crop vs crop later this night to be added for the comparison
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Interesting comparison, are you running the new camera firmware on your z1?
Didnt get it yet still 4.3
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The advantage of the s4 zoom is the optical lens, beside that its more or less Equal to other top smart phones on the market today (camera speaking)
owner of s4 zoom.
ashouhdy said:
Didnt get it yet still 4.3
.136 ??
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nice comparism thanks
why? we in iraq got the update via pc companion try it
Thx all for reply ... But I admit that if u inspect closer the noise is less at the z1 if we play auto vs auto between both
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Samsung can't make cameras pfttsss
I have the S4 zoom and it is the best when it comes to zoom.All devices that claim "lossless zoom" have some compromise in the image quality while the S4 zoom have optical zoom wich makes it better.Even when compared to Lumia 1520 20mp camera.
The zoom feature on the Z1 is shocking, so much grain it's unreal.
As a point and shoot it's a half decent camera.
In all fairness i'd have my Galaxy Camera over either of them anyday.
Between the two i'd say the Zoom is the better camera.
When you hear 20mp you think this is going to be good, but it does let you down a little when you take a good look at your snaps.
Macro photograph from HONOR 20 Pro is amazing, I was shocked when I see the photo "Oh, is it the skin texture?!"
The first p
hoto was shot by Honor 20 Pro, the second is iPhone 7's
Disagree.
The 2mp macro camera is trash.
You can always take better result macro photo with main camera!
leedashone said:
Disagree.
The 2mp macro camera is trash.
You can always take better result macro photo with main camera!
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I agree with you.If you want a nearer picture,use the 8MP camera with 3x zoom is still better!
I noticed on the mi 9 camera there is a macro mode available, however, I have not been able to find a macro mode on my Mi 9T. Does anybody know how I can enable this?
Anyone?
well, it is not there, so how can you enable it? Mi9T camera doesnt support macro mode - at least in this version available. Maybe in future, who knows?
Mi 9 has auto focus on it's ultra wide camera allowing it to focus on very close objects, which is what you need to make macro shots (there's also the option of a dedicated macro camera that some huawei phones have). Mi 9T's ultra wide camera has no auto focus, which means no macro mode.
Finn3gan said:
Mi 9 has auto focus on it's ultra wide camera allowing it to focus on very close objects, which is what you need to make macro shots (there's also the option of a dedicated macro camera that some huawei phones have). Mi 9T's ultra wide camera has no auto focus, which means no macro mode.
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Despite I have no clue, why anyone would use a (the) ultra-wide-angle lens for a macro shot (impractical focal length and inferior sensor) - the Mi9T has a macro mode (main & tele) - though the minimal focus distance is not that impressive.
Stock cam > PRO mode > enable 48MP (for best quality, tele sucks due to inferior sensor) > set "F" to a value of "40" or below > "M" turns into a flower - and now you can even enable focus peaking (top bar).
From my experience it's basically the same as using the main 48MP mode - but with a huge advantage: the ability to set/lock the focus to a certain (minimal) distance (and focus peaking).
edit: focus peaking disables itself, when switching to 48MP - vice versa
edit2: tele lens is basically completely useless
edit3: autofocus needed for macro - hilarious
callmeWhiskers said:
Despite I have no clue, why anyone would use a (the) ultra-wide-angle lens for a macro shot (impractical focal length and inferior sensor) - the Mi9T has a macro mode (main & tele) - though the minimal focus distance is not that impressive.
Stock cam > PRO mode > enable 48MP (for best quality, tele sucks due to inferior sensor) > set "F" to a value of "40" or below > "M" turns into a flower - and now you can even enable focus peaking (top bar).
From my experience it's basically the same as using the main 48MP mode - but with a huge advantage: the ability to set/lock the focus to a certain (minimal) distance (and focus peaking).
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Yeah but that doesn't improve the minimal focus distance. I had a mate 20 pro and that phone was able to focus on objects as close as 2.5 cm with it's ultra-wide camera. But if it's good enough for you then use it.
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Yeah but that doesn't improve the minimal focus distance. I had a mate 20 pro and that phone was able to focus on objects as close as 2.5 cm with it's ultra-wide camera. But if it's good enough for you then use it.
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Yes, I agree - having a macro mode is to a certain degree useless considering the minimum focal distance of Mi9T's lenses (which has nothing to do with the lack of auto-focus).
callmeWhiskers said:
Yes, I agree - having a macro mode is to a certain degree useless considering the minimum focal distance of Mi9T's lenses (which has nothing to do with the lack of auto-focus).
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I can see it really bothers you that i was wrong about certain things. I apologize for it, i wasn't aware. Never cared much about photography, which explains why i ditched the Mate 20 Pro. Anyway, thanks for pointing it out, i "fixed" my original post.
Hi guys I just found a very strange problem.
I'm on the latest dev xiaomi.eu build.
I just discovered the following.
The wide camera (48mp) does not work.
Actually if I block it with my finger, and change between ultra wide, wide or tele I can still see through camera.
It is like the 48mp camera never used...
for ultra wide, it uses the bottom camera and for 1x & 2x it uses the middle camera.
The upper camera (48mp) is never used... Pictures though are super... is this normal?
The above is if I use the default camera app.
If I use a gcam then
ultra wide is again the bottom camera
1x is the middle camera and 2x is the (48mp) wtf?
Thank you in advance!
Same here! Really strange..... Someone with original rom can confirm this too?
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Yes, looks like it's normal...
In MIUI Camera app:
"top" camera is used in "Portrait" mode (= pratically same as 2x with "middle" camera).
"middle" camera is used for 48mp / 1x and 2x
"bottom" camera is used for ultra-wide / 0.6x
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It`s because MIUI camera in auto mode uses main sensor for 2x zoom. It does not happen when you choose telephoto in pro mode. Gcam have no such "feature" it seems xd
So if we use xiaomi.eu roms then we do not have the full potential of the camera correct?
The only way to actually use the wide lens is to switch again to global?
Did you try to just replace the cam app from the global?
megam4n said:
So if we use xiaomi.eu roms then we do not have the full potential of the camera correct?
The only way to actually use the wide lens is to switch again to global?
Did you try to just replace the cam app from the global?
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It`s the same. I am on official global and i confirmed this. It seems it`s intended to be this way by Xiaomi. Also i really doubt you lose much camera potential. Telephoto lens sucks and i wish it to disappear. Waste of space IMO.
Yes I agree with you but from what it seems
It uses the supposedly telephoto for normal and in portrait the 48mp as telephoto.
So we do not actually take pictures with the actual wide... Or the wide is actually the middle cam and they put the 48mp letter to the telephoto?
I'm bloody confused hahaha
They are
Top: 8MP x2
Middle: 48MP x1
Bottom: 13MP x0.6
Letters and colored circle are misleading.
Honestly i only use 1, the main sensor.
The rest are way lower quality sensor.
8MP telephoto is still more detailed than zoom into a 48MP shot.
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They are
Top: 8MP x2
Middle: 48MP x1
Bottom: 13MP x0.6
Letters and colored circle are misleading.
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Thank you, but as I understand it actually uses the middle also when we press the x2 button.
The only way to use the actual telephoto is through the pro settings.
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Honestly i only use 1, the main sensor.
The rest are way lower quality sensor.
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I also only use the main sensor and sometimes the ultrawide.
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8MP telephoto is still more detailed than zoom into a 48MP shot.
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Probably you are right. I never take zoomed photos though so I can't really say.
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They are
Top: 8MP x2
Middle: 48MP x1
Bottom: 13MP x0.6
Letters and colored circle are misleading.
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Absolutely right!
It's very funny to read in some test articles for 9T that the top sensor is the Sony with 48MP.
It's also very astonishing that Xiaomi tries to let people think the upper camera is the flagship by printing 48MP next to it and paint the upper glas-ring in pretty red color (for the black model).
With global rom and stock camera app the behavior is like that:
In Auto-Photo mode:
0.6 - 0.9 Bottom Super-Wide-Lens
1.0 - 1.9 Middle 48MP Sony Wide-Lens
2.0 - max Top Tele-Lens
You can see the change of lens and also the change of color in the fiewfinder by zooming with 2 fingers from 1.9 to 2.0
In Pro-Mode:
If you choose Main-Sensor (Middle Sony Wide-Lens) you can zoom to max without switching to Tele-Lens.
In Portrait-Mode:
The top Tele-Lens is used for the picture and the middle Main-Lens is for bokeh-effect.
You can test it by taking a portrait-mode picture while putting your finger on the middle lens. Result will be a portrait picture without bokeh-effect.
Did a few tests with gcam/stock camera, to analyze the "usefulness" of the 8mp telephoto compared to main 48mp one, in a static and detailed scene
comparing a 8mp with a 12mp "resized" to match zoom size = 8MP is MUCH better and more detailed
comparing a 8mp with a 12mp zoomed 2x in camera to match zoom size = 8MP is MUCH better and more detailed
comparing a 8mp with a 48mp "resized" to match zoom size = 8MP is still better and more detailed
comparing a 8mp with a 48mp "resized" RAW to match zoom size = 8MP is still better, the raw one is "90%" there
so the 8MP tele camera is super useful and provide better image than any method of zooming the 48MP, unless you are taking 48MP RAW all the time. If you are using JPG, the telephoto is amazing. That's why the stock camera use the telephoto when zooming in good light conditions, but switch to the main camera when there is less light (it is better to have a less detailed and cleaner image than more detailed and noisier one, and the telephoto is very noisy in low light)
if anyone want it, i can provide 100% crop samples.
Hi
Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but after reading everywhere how great the 8 Pro is and how good the camera is, I expected something more. Don't get me wrong the camera can take great pictures, but not in Portrait mode indoors.
I've tried a lot of indoor shots and was shocked that a lot of them are just not really sharp. Hair is not sharp or even blurred out for the background. I've also noticed that the camera tends to use a much slower shutter speed than my Pixel 2 XL. Sharp photos taken with the Pixel 2 XL had a shutter speed of 1/289, where the OnePlus took the photo with 1/50. Which is then understandable if the subject is moving.
Sure, I could go into Pro mode and set the shutter speed myself, but this would require more time and also I'm loosing the blurry background. And in Pro mode I cannot switch to wide angle or telephoto lens.
And last but not least, the camera tends to be not as snappy. It takes a split second until it takes the photo. And indoors the portrait mode on the display seems to be stuttering. I guess because it tries to analyse the picture and show a "faked" live blurred background.
All in all, I'm very disappointed as I didn't think that my almost three year old Pixel can take better pictures and I hope that's my fault and some setting that I'm missing. E.g. is there a way to override the shutter speed in portrait mode?
And yes, I've also tried the GCam (7.3.018_Urnyx05-v2.1) with the config https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/p/f/2020/07/nrG-📸-Urnyx05-7.3.018_v2.0.xml. Although this is a lot snappier, it still produces subpar results compared to the Pixel in Portrait mode. Same shutter speed issues and colors are better on the Pixel.
Any ideas? Do you have the same issues?
Thanks