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I am selling my Galaxy Tab 7.7.
1. Its a little too big to fit nicely in my pockets (that extra .7 was the difference as the original Tab 7 fit better.
2. There is very little development going on for the 7.7
3. I have the international version bought off of Negri that does not have an IR blaster. This was actually a big selling point for me as I have a smart home system that is compatible with this.
I am going to switch to the Galaxy Note.
1. It will fit nicely in my pocket.
2. There are already several ICS Roms available for it.
3. No IR Blaster :-(
My question is how much is the International 7.7 selling for? More importantly what carriers is it compatible with? That is the most important question which carriers can use the 7.7 that I bought off of Negri?
You want some galaxy Note? Where do you live? Country?
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That's funny. I just bought a new 7.7 to go along WITH my Note. I love them both. I guess I'm just a sucker for AMOLED displays.
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I also have both, and if someone made me choose I'd lean towards keeping the Note over the 7.7. But, that's mainly because I have a new iPad at home.
Me too, i also have New ipad, Note and Thema 7.7
The only thing i found **** is The horryble scrolling in Facebook and dolphin Browser:-(
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The Galaxy Note is perfect for those people who just want or can only afford one device. The combination of the large high resolution screen and S-Pen allows it to work well as Tablet and it is portable enough to be used as a mobile phone. If I had to choose between the Note and 7.7 for my only device then I would get the Note.
I bought both and returned the note
This topic caught my eye as just today I returned the note after using it only for a week. I have had the galaxy tab 7.7 for 2 months now. I have the galaxy nexus as my phone.
The reason I decided to purchase the galaxy note:
1) Note taking
2) More portable yet bigger screen than most phones
What I liked during my trial:
1) Ability to write out my notes in the pen memo app
2) More portable than any other tablet
3) Display was quite good (yet not without fault, see below).
4) It was super fast in use. Apps seemed to install and launch much faster than any android device I have ever owned. The browser was silky smooth (apparently stick browser was optimized by samsung). No stutter or lag anywhere. Even with the same CPU, GPU and RAM specs galaxy tab 7.7 feels slower by a bit for the same tasks (due to honeycomb).
The reason I decided to return the galaxy note:
1) Black wallpaper when viewed in dark shows grey banding. This ruins the perception of the Super AMOLED display which is supposed to especially shine for black color due to infinite contrast. This has been widely reported. However I won't say that just this reason should sway you away from it, as the display otherwise is on par with the galaxy tab 7.7 although slightly less bright.
Galaxy tab 7.7 doesn't have this issue.
2) Galaxy note screen is big but not that much bigger than my galaxy nexus screen (5.3" vs. 4.65"). Screen feels small when compared to other tablets. Can't install tablet format of apps, so that negates the slightly larger screen.(There are ROMs available to make it act like a tablet, but you end up with faulty pen support and really small icons).
3) The micro-SD card slot access requires you to take out the battery. Galaxy tab 7.7 has an exposed slot which is very convenient.
I used galaxy note as a tablet (no SIM card) and decided that it didn't offer much beyond what my galaxy nexus already did screen space and app-wise although the pen functionality was extremely appealing. The smoothness and maturity of ICS was lacking and I didn't want to even risk losing the pen functionality by installing some custom ROMs.
Hope this helps with your decision.
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I also have both, and if someone made me choose I'd lean towards keeping the Note over the 7.7. But, that's mainly because I have a new iPad at home.
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I have an iPad as well which is my primary tablet. The Note is going to be my primary phone.
I've had both the 7.7 and Note (both International versions before their US counterparts were released).
I long for the day Samsung and VZW reach a deal on the Note or Note2.
I used straight talk for my Int'l Note and it was good, but I missed 4G speeds.
The thing I find with all my devices is I like development. I really should learn how b/c if a device doesn't have development I get bored quickly.
My razr is amazing so far even with it's locked bootloaders, but OMG the dev work on the Note is second to none it seems. (At least for the international version).
The Note, the longer I haven't had it the more I miss it. It was speedy, great support/development, and could double up as both a phone and tablet.
The 7.7 I haven't missed one bit since I sold it. It was a 6810 (wi-fi) and virtually no development going on at all for the 7.7, especially the wi-fi version. Secondly, it just didn't impress me the way the original Galaxy Tab or 10.1 did. <<<I contribute a lot of that to lack of development and being stuck with stock crappy honeycomb.
OP, I think you will be much happier with the Note than the 7.7, but that's just my opinion. I really miss mine but I just can't bring myself to give up two grandfathered unlimited data plans on VZW.
UPDATE: Verizon will be discontinuing the unlimitted plan for all
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I've had both the 7.7 and Note (both International versions before their US counterparts were released).
I long for the day Samsung and VZW reach a deal on the Note or Note2.
I used straight talk for my Int'l Note and it was good, but I missed 4G speeds.
The thing I find with all my devices is I like development. I really should learn how b/c if a device doesn't have development I get bored quickly.
My razr is amazing so far even with it's locked bootloaders, but OMG the dev work on the Note is second to none it seems. (At least for the international version).
The Note, the longer I haven't had it the more I miss it. It was speedy, great support/development, and could double up as both a phone and tablet.
The 7.7 I haven't missed one bit since I sold it. It was a 6810 (wi-fi) and virtually no development going on at all for the 7.7, especially the wi-fi version. Secondly, it just didn't impress me the way the original Galaxy Tab or 10.1 did. <<<I contribute a lot of that to lack of development and being stuck with stock crappy honeycomb.
OP, I think you will be much happier with the Note than the 7.7, but that's just my opinion. I really miss mine but I just can't bring myself to give up two grandfathered unlimited data plans on VZW.
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I guess this news will change your plans:
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/17/verizon-clarifies-shared-data-plans/
Verzion will be cancelling the grandfathered unlimitted plans. The only way you will b e ablet to keep it is if you pay full price for all your phone upgrades or stay with the phone you currently have.
I have your same exact problem!!!
Galaxy tab 7 fits in back pockets while 7.7 dont... but i just think im not putting that in my pockets... that tab is really good! I love it.
Just watched a benchmark comparison between the S and S2 and the S2 appears to be a dud. Only like 52000 on antutu. My Nexus 6 with snapgragon 805 scores higher than that. why samsung did not use the same exynos they put in the S6 is beyond me. What do you guys think about it? Supposed to be out by end of the month from what I read.
Still faster then most of the world has but should be a little better for a flagship. I'm happy that i don't need to upgrade this year!
But still the fastest tablet, yes they could use the S6 cpu, but why would they do that?
They are selling tablets to make money not to please their customers.
The YouTube video I watched showed it has double the scores than the original tab s... What's your point OP?
samsung will not sell a tablet that will outclass it's flagship phones, tab S2 is lucky enough to receive a core from S6 compared to our tablet which didn't even receive the S5's 5422 which is HMP capable (all cores firing) yet pushing a larger screen resolution 1440p.
Tab S2 could be worth the upgrade only if
1) they retain or make the screen reso higher
2) better camera WITH flash (why dont they use a bigger camera on a bigger device? )
3) forget being super thin, we need battery!!
4) (personal preference) thinner bezel on all sides
perhaps somewhere down the road, we'll see a tab S edge LOL
My only gripe is that they forgot support for our tab S! Where are these damn updates!
I don't think the specs are too bad. I like the new ratio 4:3 I primarly use the tablet to browse and read, "watching videos" comes third, (and I certainly won't watch complete movies. )
I love that the tablet is as light as possible, I hope it won't affect the battery too much
Yes the S2 should've received the new S6 cpu... But on the other hand, will it make any practical differences instead of a number in a benchmark? I doubt it.
They saved money by not implementing a flash. Which is a pitty for a flagship. But on the other side I don't think I ever made more than 10 photos with my old tablet.
Price is unfortunately not cheap, you pay a flagship price.
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My only gripe is that they forgot support for our tab S! Where are these damn updates!
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Remember the Tab Pro?
That hasn't seen one major OS update. Released a few months earlier than the Tab S. Samsung needs to support their tablet line up.
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Found this today:
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-tab-s2-initial-impressions-632447/
Specs for those who haven't seen (this is a review of the import model so USA specs might be different?)
Exynos 5433 Octa-core SoC
3GB of RAM
32 or 64GB of on-board storageand
8-megapixel rear, 2.1-megapixel front camera set-up (no front flash)
Android 5.0.2
and features
Same “touch-based” fingerprint sensor used in the Galaxy S6
MicroSD
9.7-inch variant includes a 5,870mAh battery - the 8-inch variant a 4,000mAh power-cell
4:3 aspect ratio- 2048×1536 SAMOLED display
I JUST bought my Tab S a few days ago knowing this was going to be formally announced within my 15 days return policy period. But I got the 8.4 Tab S on sale for $299 at Best Buy, which I think it a great price point. It would take OUTSTANDING battery life and some kind of totally revamped touchwiz or stock android option with the newest snapdragon for me to switch I think.
I don't want any updates, I could be on official lollipop but i decided to stick with kitkat that is super stable, no way am i going to upgrade to lollipop as it has too many bugs, that out-way the new features.
Yeah, I noticed that the Tab Pro owners are still on kitkat, I have been posting on their forum warning them about lollipop if they get version v5.0.2
If we get Android M, I will wait for any problems to show before i upgrade or not.
John.
Samsung just dump a product within a year. Hate to say it but I find that's why people buy Apple plus the residual sales values.
So as Samsung copy everything Apple can't they also copy software support.
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I don't want any updates, I could be on official lollipop but i decided to stick with kitkat that is super stable, no way am i going to upgrade to lollipop as it has too many bugs, that out-way the new features.
Yeah, I noticed that the Tab Pro owners are still on kitkat, I have been posting on their forum warning them about lollipop if they get version v5.0.2
If we get Android M, I will wait for any problems to show before i upgrade or not.
John.
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I personally love the Lollipop update !
Particularly the recent updates coupled with my SkyHigh kernel make it so much faster, smoother and stable than KK.
That's what we do here at XDA, we don't want to hear whining, we want to be proactive and try improve on it
So what other "bugs" if you haven't bothered to upgrade ? Some found on other websites and forums have mentioned poor RAM management, but this has been the "norm" for most Samsung devices and TW. My kernel goes someway to addressing that.
As far as Tab-S2 goes - I'm really disappointed in the SoC (amongst other hardware). Not premium at all....
Not everybody want to flash their Tab S due to warranty ect, A lot of people have reported problems with official lollipop v5.0.2, all i am saying is they should wait for any problems to be revealed before upgrading.
It`s great that you found a lollipop rom that works for you.
John.
UpInTheAir said:
I personally love the Lollipop update !
Particularly the recent updates coupled with my SkyHigh kernel make it so much faster, smoother and stable than KK.
That's what we do here at XDA, we don't want to hear whining, we want to be proactive and try improve on it
So what other "bugs" if you haven't bothered to upgrade ? Some found on other websites and forums have mentioned poor RAM management, but this has been the "norm" for most Samsung devices and TW. My kernel goes someway to addressing that.
As far as Tab-S2 goes - I'm really disappointed in the SoC (amongst other hardware). Not premium at all....
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
Not everybody want to flash their Tab S due to warranty ect, A lot of people have reported problems with official lollipop v5.0.2, all i am saying is they should wait for any problems to be revealed before upgrading.
It`s great that you found a lollipop rom that works for you.
John.
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Users should make up their own minds rather than taking advice from someone who (by admission) hasn't bothered to try themselves.
For those that worry, the latest LL firmwares far exceed the old KK firmwares as far as stability and smoothness in it's stock state. Take it from someone whom has flashed both stock and customized KK and LL firmware for T705.
It's easy to find out yourself and just as easy to downgrade via Odin without breaking warranty.
But things can always be improved upon (depending on point-of-view) and modified with options. Why ? Because this is XDA-DEVELOPERS, not sammobile.com.
Anyway, sorry OP for the OT.
So what lollipop rom and kernel do your recommend, I have an UK T800.
John.
UpInTheAir said:
Users should make up their own minds rather than taking advice from someone who (by admission) hasn't bothered to try themselves.
For those that worry, the latest LL firmwares far exceed the old KK firmwares as far as stability and smoothness in it's stock state. Take it from someone whom has flashed both stock and customized KK and LL firmware for T705.
It's easy to find out yourself and just as easy to downgrade via Odin without breaking warranty.
But things can always be improved upon (depending on point-of-view) and modified with options. Why ? Because this is XDA-DEVELOPERS, not sammobile.com.
Anyway, sorry OP for the OT.
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my tablet use always 60% movie, 20% browsing/reading news, 20% gaming.
I don't think 4:3 will do much good for me.
I just got this little beast yesterday. I live in Thailand where it was released about 4 days ago, i paid exactly $451 for the 32gb LTE 8-inch version. In the past 5 years that i have been on and off samsung devices, this is the first time that i notice a smooth, lagless touchwiz experience. Actually, before i even buy any samsung devices i make sure they have been in the market a few months, and there a few customs roms out. This time around samsung did a good job cutting down on the bloatware and the new redesigned touchwiz is surprisingly good.
The 4:3 ratio is perfect for me as i will be using it mainly for school.
The only thing i am concerned about is battery life, The Huawei Ascend Mate 7, a 6-inch phablet, has a 4100mah battery. This 8-inch tablet has a 4000mah battery.
Samsung claims:
9 hours of LTE web browsing,
10 hours of WIFI web browsing
14 hours of video.
Here are my stats for the first 5 hours:
Turned on with 55%,
after 5 hours it was sitting at 10% with 3 hours of SOT,
somewhat heavy usage downloading apps, setting it up, installing everything, and testing it.
That oled display is going to kill your battery for school work, all that white gulps down the power, you would gave been better off with an lcd display that does not care what colour the screen is.
Check to see if your apps/browser has an night mode that turn white to black, If your prefer white just keep the brightness low to save as much power as possible.
John.
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I just got this little beast yesterday. I live in Thailand where it was released about 4 days ago, i paid exactly $451 for the 32gb LTE 8-inch version. In the past 5 years that i have been on and off samsung devices, this is the first time that i notice a smooth, lagless touchwiz experience. Actually, before i even buy any samsung devices i make sure they have been in the market a few months, and there a few customs roms out. This time around samsung did a good job cutting down on the bloatware and the new redesigned touchwiz is surprisingly good.
The 4:3 ratio is perfect for me as i will be using it mainly for school.
The only thing i am concerned about is battery life, The Huawei Ascend Mate 7, a 6-inch phablet, has a 4100mah battery. This 8-inch tablet has a 4000mah battery.
Samsung claims:
9 hours of LTE web browsing,
10 hours of WIFI web browsing
14 hours of video.
Here are my stats for the first 5 hours:
Turned on with 55%,
after 5 hours it was sitting at 10% with 3 hours of SOT,
somewhat heavy usage downloading apps, setting it up, installing everything, and testing it.
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Tinderbox (UK) said:
That oled display is going to kill your battery for school work, all that white gulps down the power, you would gave been better off with an lcd display that does not care what colour the screen is.
Check to see if your apps/browser has an night mode that turn white to black, If your prefer white just keep the brightness low to save as much power as possible.
John.
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I thought so too, My next option was the iPad mini. I'll just use this one for now and see how well it performs, and when the new iPad mini comes out, i'll decide which is better.
Oled display are really best for Video the colors look amazing and power used when playing a video is lower than any lcd tablet according to power consumption group tests.
John.
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I thought so too, My next option was the iPad mini. I'll just use this one for now and see how well it performs, and when the new iPad mini comes out, i'll decide which is better.
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I was always a dual user of both iOS and Android, but when the iPhone 6 came out, I decided to opt for the iPhone 6 Plus and use it primarily and gave my HTC M8 to my mother. I must say I had an amazing experience with HTC, using both the M7 and M8 consecutively. Recently I've been experiencing issues with the iPhone and the 6S does not really interest me, so I was thinking of going back to Android. The options I am looking at are the S7 Edge and HTC 10.
Since I've had a great experience with HTC, I thought I would go for the 10 but I read a lot of mixed reviews about it and from the looks department, it looks really similar to my M8 so it won't feel much different, and I believe HTC Sense has not been overhauled recently so it's going to feel almost exactly the same. I had horrible experiences with both the Galaxy S3 and S5, the latter being the WORST device I've ever used in my life (and I've used so many), which is why I am scared about going for the S7 Edge.
My experience with the S5 started well, but gradually kept getting worse and worse until it was time to give it up - it had the Exynos (not sure of the spelling) processor, so perhaps that is why? But I've always found TouchWiz to be quite laggy compared to stock Android, for example. I have read good reviews about the S7 Edge, however, and I have a couple of questions before going ahead and buying it:
1) How is TouchWiz nowadays? Is it smooth and snappy or would I need install custom ROMs and such? I really love custom ROMs and changing it up every now and then so I won't have problems with that.
2) Is there a noticeable difference between the Snapdragon and the Exynos? On the S5, the latter was NOT supported by developers at all, so it is the same case here or not?
3) Samsung seems to have many variants of the S7, but to my understanding there are two S7 Edge variants, one with a dual-sim (DUOS) and one with just one, so is that true? And if so, are they both supported by developers or just one of them?
4) How is your overall experience with the device so far? And is the S8 possibly coming out soon? I wouldn't mind waiting if it's going to be released very soon.
Thank you for your time.
p.s. I recently purchased a Moto 360 2nd gen smart watch which I absolutely watch and is one of the main reasons I want an Android device because its iOS support is horrendous; is the S7 Edge compatible with the Moto 360 fine? Or is the dependability solely relying on the Android Wear app itself rather than the actual device?
Rooting and developer support seem to crop up frequently in your post.
For that reason the Exynox version is probably more of interest.
However, I would suggest another option if you really feel that strongly about playing around with rom's and that is the Oneplus3. It has all the support you need.
Personally, the worst thing I can say about the Edge is that the alarm doesn't go quiet enough ... . I also use the Op3 though I have not rooted, it works just fine as is (as does the S7E).
Both are plenty fast enough for any software currently available. - I think half the problems some seem to have with the S7(E) seems to originate with the need to customize every little bit.
TouchWhiz is good (imho) and even the browser is optimized and blazingly fast. At the end of the day it comes down to UI preference. Op's UI is much closer to stock Android and I like that too.
When it comes to form factor and pride of ownership, there is only one winner though and I doubt many could argue with that one.
1) Honestly I can't think of a single bad thing about the TouchWiz on the S7 Edge. Works just fine, My only serious complain is that dark themes don't theme some parts of the overall UI (such as the battery graph, and set alarms) and therefore are left white and looks... unfinished. In terms of performance no issues whatsoever.
2) There is difference yes, the Exynos being the better option. People have reported better user experience, as well as better battery life on the Exynos version. However don't expect much development for the version with Samsung's cpu.
4) The S7 is a few months old, way too early to talk about S8. It is a really good phone, probably the best I've had and I've had my fair and square experience with smartphones. The battery life for me alone is better than anything I've tried, maybe only for the 6S Plus. Overall 4+ hours SoT on heavy day.
The HTC is a good phone, but I personally believe the S7 edge is the better option here. The M10 is not worth the askes price.
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Thank you for your replies, gentleman. I'm sorry it has taken me so long to reply but I got caught up in other things and for some reason I did not receive email notifications of your replies even though I have subscribed to the thread.
I believe I'm going for the S7 Edge today since I'm off work. I would like to know how to tell between a Snapdragon or Exynos processor? Is it perhaps written on the box itself?
And your posts seem to be conflicting since drummerman says the Exynos processor is better for development while derWolf says otherwise. Which one is it? Did I misunderstand your posts, perhaps?
Thank you!
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Thank you for your replies, gentleman. I'm sorry it has taken me so long to reply but I got caught up in other things and for some reason I did not receive email notifications of your replies even though I have subscribed to the thread.
I believe I'm going for the S7 Edge today since I'm off work. I would like to know how to tell between a Snapdragon or Exynos processor? Is it perhaps written on the box itself?
And your posts seem to be conflicting since drummerman says the Exynos processor is better for development while derWolf says otherwise. Which one is it? Did I misunderstand your posts, perhaps?
Thank you!
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The Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge with the Exynos processor is the best in my opinion. The Galaxy S7 with the Exynos processor is the SM-G930F and the S7 Edge is the SM-G935F. The "F" is the designation for the Global model with an unlocked bootloader and can easily be rooted with CF Autoroot and Odin. TWRP is available for both variants of the S7 as well.
If you can open the box at the store and power up the device, go to Settings - About Device
You will see the model number.
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Hey guys.
I have the Galaxy S6 and I'm wondering if it is worth to upgrade from S6 to S8.
I've been using the S6 for quite some time, and now they launched Android Nougat (7.0) to the Galaxy S6, which I am currently using the official version.
But, I am wondering if I should upgrade to the Galaxy S8 (Non Plus) variant.
I'm in love with s8's screen.
If you can, please post a "reason" why I should or not be upgrading.
Thanks!
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Hey guys.
I have the Galaxy S6 and I'm wondering if it is worth to upgrade from S6 to S8.
I've been using the S6 for quite some time, and now they launched Android Nougat (7.0) to the Galaxy S6, which I am currently using the official version.
But, I am wondering if I should upgrade to the Galaxy S8 (Non Plus) variant.
I'm in love with s8's screen.
If you can, please post a "reason" why I should or not be upgrading.
Thanks!
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Better SOC, better graphics, better screen, more ram, more memory 64gb, sd card, better battery, better camera front and back, usb C, better performance overall......BUT if you didn't see all this already and you're still in doubt, might be that it doesn't worth the upgrade for you.
I did this. Battery almost 2x, Speed great, too.
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Same here. Switched from S6 Edge. It is a major upgrade in every way, just like OP said. No regrets.
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I upgraded from the S6 Edge to the S8
As the title says I upgraded from the s6 edge and let me tell you it is worth the upgrade! :good:
Not least of all the S8 is waterproof, having paid £250 to repair a water damaged s6 edge last year i think its worth upgrading for this reason alone.
I like the fact the finger print scanner is on the back - it never made sense to me that it was on the front in the first place.
Face unlocker is fast to react.
And I am just chumping at the bit to get a DEX like dock (however at this point not willing to pay £110 for it).
Interesting comments.
I am really tempted into upgrading it. Since my S6 sometimes struggle when I'm scrolling on Chrome or Facebook, and I'm too far down.
I think it is time for that upgrade!
Is the battery really enough? I mean.. 3000 mAH on the S8.
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Interesting comments.
I am really tempted into upgrading it. Since my S6 sometimes struggle when I'm scrolling on Chrome or Facebook, and I'm too far down.
I think it is time for that upgrade!
Is the battery really enough? I mean.. 3000 mAH on the S8.
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Battery life has been a mixed bag for me - I'm not quite seeing as good a result as I've seen many post but it's likely due to varying conditions. It definitely gets better life than my S6 - I wouldn't make it to Noon with that and I start my day, off the charger at 430am. With the S8, I get through the entire day, no problem but might need a hit from the fast charger if I do some browsing after dinner...
ruanterino said:
Hey guys.
I have the Galaxy S6 and I'm wondering if it is worth to upgrade from S6 to S8.
I've been using the S6 for quite some time, and now they launched Android Nougat (7.0) to the Galaxy S6, which I am currently using the official version.
But, I am wondering if I should upgrade to the Galaxy S8 (Non Plus) variant.
I'm in love with s8's screen.
If you can, please post a "reason" why I should or not be upgrading.
Thanks!
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Well you can upgrade but i recommend waiting for another phone with the same SOC...
My dad bought the S8 and is pretty meh...Narrow design, same screen as the s6 just bigger and slightly higher res which makes it looks strange...camera is the same as an S6 on good light conditions and slightly better on dark conditions...Figerprint positioning is absurd...Battery is not that good...SOC is newer but you wont notice any difference unless you try hard...And the price is way too high for whats is worth...
I dont want to start a new thread but i am wondering the same but i am coming from a oneplus one.. again is their any bonus in upgrading.. and how is development for samsung devices
i went from s6 edge + to s8. Very happy so far. the form factor fits better in the hand, software is fine. I like the back being glass. good feel overall.
A BIG YES. I upgrade from a s7 edge and to me it was so worth it
If you like the S6 and want to stay with Samsung, I'd say yes. Otherwise, I'd say wait until more info is available on the Google Pixel 2.
It's such a large upgrade from the S6 it's silly to even have to talk about all the reasons why. For comparison, the S8+ made the S7 Edge seem very dated. There is no comparison, unless you like old, slow phones with far inferior displays, memory size, camera..... I could go on. Not even in the same ballpark. By far the best phone made to date - S8/S8+. That changes every 6 months or so with a new phone taking the crown, but right now this is the top dog.
Agree, S8&S8+ are top-of-the-foodchain!
How are the lags on the S8? Because on the S6 when I'm scrolling in chrome or facebook I get lags. Usual android thing. That's what making me wonder if I should wait iphone 8 or get the galaxy s8. Btw, I don't plan going to Google Pixel 2 because I like the Samsung devices. I've always had Samsung phones. Tried Nexus once but I'm not a fan of stock android.
Upgraded today to the Grey/silver version from S6.
Ordered awesome spigen case too.
Role on Friday.
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How are the lags on the S8? Because on the S6 when I'm scrolling in chrome or facebook I get lags. Usual android thing. That's what making me wonder if I should wait iphone 8 or get the galaxy s8. Btw, I don't plan going to Google Pixel 2 because I like the Samsung devices. I've always had Samsung phones. Tried Nexus once but I'm not a fan of stock android.
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Zero lag in anything I have done on my S8+. Smoothest, fastest phone I have ever used.
I went from s6 Edge to S8. I think it's worth it. The battery is much better. Bigger screen, not as wide so easier to hold. It's pretty better all around. If you got nougat on your s6 then the software experience will not feel drastically different. Haven't really tested the camera head to head yet.
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It's such a large upgrade from the S6 it's silly to even have to talk about all the reasons why. For comparison, the S8+ made the S7 Edge seem very dated. There is no comparison, unless you like old, slow phones with far inferior displays, memory size, camera..... I could go on. Not even in the same ballpark. By far the best phone made to date - S8/S8+. That changes every 6 months or so with a new phone taking the crown, but right now this is the top dog.
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I have to disagree with you on a few points:
"far inferior displays" - Just because the S8 has a more futuristic look with its smaller bezels and increased height over the S6 I don't see it being fair to consider the S6 to be far inferior. The S6 featured an incredible screen at its time, and compared to alot of flagships out there it still is an amazing screen anno 2017! (pixeldensity is still better on the S6 vs the S8 by the way)
"memory size" - Just because the S8 features 1GB more, it does not mean that you actually use it. Just because it looks better on paper does not make it essential in daily usage. 4GB future proof? Yes! Absolutely necessary at this moment? Probably not.
"camera" - If you are talking about the front facing camera, then yes probably you are right. The rear camera however is only marginaly improved over the S6.
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you that the S8 beats the S6 in all of those points, but I think its actual difference in daily usage is to be argued whether the TS needs to upgrade or not
From S6 Edge to S8 is a perfect upgrade at all levels. I gave S6 to dad and I am using S8
Wednesday I bought the S4 and keyboard.
Thursday it arrived, I was very surprised by it.
Friday, the next model s5e was announced, literally on every tech site.
Saturday I messaged Samsung via the members app as I was disappointed. Looks like the s5e has android pie already, but is missing the s pen. Apparently the processor isn't as good, but I think it will make little difference as the price is likely to be half of that which I paid for the s4. It will not have Dex mode, or spend. These are the only differences I can see. Ohh and the s5e offers fingerprint too.
I know Samsung.com offers 28 day returns which in likely to take them up on. Come the 20th Feb we will know more about the new devices which are coming. Yet the tablet, phones and wearables have all been leaked.
But if the foldable phone is actually announced, I may be better off. My S9+ is in the upgrade plan, so maybe I don't need the S4 at all!
As a consumer I'm torn, as a tablet user I'm impressed with the s4's battery life, but that could also be because of my tab S (original) not lasting as long as a day, yet this is pushing for 2days.
My question is, what would you do. What are your feelings on the s5e? Is it just a budget version of the S4? Or a very good deal at something like half the price
Price should be posted for consideration.
Tab s4 $650
Tab s5e $400
Thats a hard one to call, I mean its more than half extra for a better cpu and lack of stylus. Okay this might be a wild ride but lets do it. URL REDACTED seems to suggest that the 670 is about as powerful as an 820. The tab s4 has an 835. We can kinda get a feeling for what to expect, vaguely with this. URL 2 REDACTED
Tab s4
Multi: 6000~
Single: 1841~
Renderscript: 7780~
Tab s5
Multi: 3700~
Single: 1500~
Renderscript: 6800~
Obviously this is widely inaccurate as to how it will really perform, but it will be good to come back to this in 6 months or so to see the real results and how far they deviated. The major difference here seems to be the multi core processing speed. How much and how well the android ecosystem is multithreaded, that I don't know the answer to.
The tab s4 isn't a particularly strong CPU, so an even weaker one might be troublesome. For me I purchased the tab s4 so that I could watch an array of 4k remux videos on it, without stuttering and in HDR. I know the tab s4 tablet is capable of doing that. I don't know from these details whether the tab s5 could do that.
So it largely depends on your purpose for the device, if it is a general purpose device and you don't have one specific task / requirement for it then I would say go with the new tab s5e.
edit: seems im not allowed to post links because of low post count, gizmodochina and androidbenchmark were the sites you'll have to google them if you want the links.
I've been very happy with the S4, and don't view the S5e as a replacement. Overall it looks like they simply made a more affordable "essential" version for those who don't need the power of the S4, nor want to pay the price.
The S4 can be great for those who like the S-pen, or like Dex mode for a form of laptop replacement.
I think there's always a problem if you buy too close to a new model coming out. The S4 price is likely to come down as the S5e is announced and starts to be released. But then it can go back up as the S5e is released, S4 supply decreases, but some people still want the power of the S4. On the plus side, since the S4 has been out awhile, you're likely to get better deals on a case, screen protector, etc., and have better selection.
Personally, I don't push the S4 heavily, nor often use the S-pen or a keyboard, such as when I'd need a laptop. But I'm very glad it can do those things when I want it to. And the S4 Pie upgrade is supposed to be here by April.
What would you rather have, buyers remorse because you think you paid too much for the S4 or buyer's remorse because your less expensive Tab S5e is not performing as well as you'd like?
The former is in your head and the latter will be in your hands every day.
I think you're right about the S9+ though, you really don't need any other tablet unless like me, you're tired of looking at a tiny screen.
The used market is also something to consider. You can probably get a used tab s4 for the same price as a new tab s5e.
Do you need 3.5mm headphone jack in your tablet? Then get a Tab S4.
Do you already have some nice bluetooth headphones? Consider the Tab S5e.
I bought the s4 with keyboard Case for 600 over Christmas. Love it!
There will be a keyboard Case for s5 email but no spen and in end I paid 100 more for better spec device in power and battery and can use it to draw take notes etc.
Pie will be coming to s4 by April.
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Only good thing the Tab S5E has going for it is the Display as it's Amoled.. The Speakers as they are Dolby Atoms that’s it..
it's got no Dex no s-pen it’s an entry level tablet i would go for the Tab S4 plus if you hunt around you will be able to get it for around 400 no way I would pay that for the Tab S5e..
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Only good thing the Tab S5E has going for it is the Display as it's Amoled.. The Speakers as they are Dolby Atoms that’s it..
it's got no Dex no s-pen it’s an entry level tablet i would go for the Tab S4 plus if you hunt around you will be able to get it for around 400 no way I would pay that for the Tab S5e..
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You are wrong. Tab s5e supports Dex. It is not entry level, it is almost identical to s4 except without s pen. The processor is not as bad as you think.
So, it is worth it to buy this device as I did, because I managed to buy the tab with the keyboard cover, and it is still cheaper than s4.
S4 is only meant for people who really need s pen.
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Do you need 3.5mm headphone jack in your tablet? Then get a Tab S4.
Do you already have some nice bluetooth headphones? Consider the Tab S5e.
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It comes with a wired headset with dongle to connect to USB port
torickray said:
You are wrong. Tab s5e supports Dex. It is not entry level, it is almost identical to s4 except without s pen. The processor is not as bad as you think.
So, it is worth it to buy this device as I did, because I managed to buy the tab with the keyboard cover, and it is still cheaper than s4.
S4 is only meant for people who really need s pen.
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It comes with a wired headset with dongle to connect to USB port
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Well no s pen or not. S4 has bigger battery and the processer even though older is still more powerful. I personally think it's more solid too. The s5e will bend or warp easily
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Well no s pen or not. S4 has bigger battery and the processer even though older is still more powerful. I personally think it's more solid too. The s5e will bend or warp easily
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It is only 260mAh different. But the weight is much lesser ( 400g vs 483g). Has android 9 on board.
I used tab 10.1 2014 before. I don't use s pen that offen. I'm not an artist. For people who just need a tab, s5e is a good option.
The processor is not that much different in performance, especially for daily reading, internet browsing. I'm not sure about gaming as that is not the reason I bought this tablet.
Saving RM1000 or USD250 is a lot. I bought the keyboard cover as well with came with DeX mode.
It is worth to buy this for the price. To buy a slightly better device with extra USD250 is too much for me.
It is really light, not easily bend as you said, but why would you bend it for?
torickray said:
It is only 260mAh different. But the weight is much lesser ( 400g vs 483g). Has android 9 on board.
I used tab 10.1 2014 before. I don't use s pen that offen. I'm not an artist. For people who just need a tab, s5e is a good option.
The processor is not that much different in performance, especially for daily reading, internet browsing. I'm not sure about gaming as that is not the reason I bought this tablet.
Saving RM1000 or USD250 is a lot. I bought the keyboard cover as well with came with DeX mode.
It is worth to buy this for the price. To buy a slightly better device with extra USD250 is too much for me.
It is really light, not easily bend as you said, but why would you bend it for?
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Yeah the tab s5e is a good option no doubt. I personally don't the tab S4 a bit smoother .
In the UK you can pick up a tab S4 easily for £400.
Both are good tabs just saying overall the tab S4 is better .
I don't mean physically bend. Metal can warp overtime or bend if left in the wrong place.
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I don't mean physically bend. Metal can warp overtime or bend if left in the wrong place.
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Like a back pocket for example ??
Too51oll said:
Like a back pocket for example ??
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Haha. Like the iPad pro or air 2. And the previous tab S2. There too thin for there own good, they can easily warp
Seen it many times and experienced it.
I was in this exact scenario. Bought s4 and then a week later, the tab s5e was announced. I was just as torn and decided to preorder the tab s5e (6gb model) just to see how it compared. Once I had it in hand, I was sold. The form factor is amazing for watching movies, reading, or browsing. I know some say that they are worried it will bend, and if you are going to be applying pressure on the tablet in that sort of way, then do not get this tablet - I cannot speak for metal warping however. For normal usage, this is a great tablet. I compared it between the s4 and here were my ultimate conclusions:
- The weight and size difference looks small on paper, but damn, this is a nice tablet to hold and the s4 feels like a tank in comparison.
- The S5e (and the s4) both ran very well in everyday tasks - did not experience any noticeable performance issues. The tab s4 did launch apps slightly faster, but nothing that would make you think the s5e was slow or laggy. Without a direct comparison, this would likely not even be noticeable.
- Screen quality was the exact same.
- The speakers on the s5e were surprisingly better, much louder and clearer. Nothing wrong with the s4 speakers, but these were better
- Call and message continuity is such a nice feature for those who don't want to have to carry their samsung phones with them when using the tablet around the house - I was very annoyed that this did not come to the s4 with the android pie update.
- The s5e can handle light gaming great - I do not play intensive games, but I am sure it would have issues with those due to less powerful hardware.
- Personally, I like the s5e's fingerprint scanner much more than the iris scanning on the s4 - but this is a matter of preference.
- So far, battery life seemed to be slightly better on the s4, but the s5e still does a great job lasting through the day.
Those who need an s pen, headphone jack, vibration, camera flash, or heavy gaming usage should not get the s5e and instead look at the s4. I also tried to replicate the wifi antenna issue on the s5e and was unable to see any signal drop - although this might just be an issue with particular models/hardware batches (I have the US wifi model).
At the end of the day, no one can tell you what is the right device for YOU. You need to decide what is important to you in a device and pick the one that best fits your needs. If you decide to go with the bigger, more powerful tab s4, it will perform great. If you are willing to trade off some power and hardware features for increased mobility, the tab s5e is still a great tablet. I was initially intimidated by the benchmarks and people saying that the tab s4 was better... but in the end, I am extremely happy with the tab s5e and will be selling my tab s4.
Hi guys,
currently hesitating between s4 and s5e, what most preoccupy me is video decoding capabilities regarding hevc (aka h265) 10bits videos.
From spec it's clear s4 can hardware decode 10bit hevc, I have a phone with same snapdragon 835 chipset and such videos are indeed smooth to play on it.
For s5e I'm not sure as chipset spec seem to imply 10bits videos are not hardware decoded and I haven't been able to test it in any outlet yet.
Has anyone here with a s5e already tried to play hevc 10-bits videos like some found on http://jell.yfish.us/ for example?
For those who know mxplayer, are 10bit hevc videos read using HW+ mode or HW or SW?
do "codec infos" apps show Main10 support for hevc?
It must be remembered that Tab s5e has EMMC memories, which over time tend to slow down the device quite a lot while Tab S4 has UFS 2.1 memories, much more performance.
Tried "jellyfish-40-mbps-hd-hevc-10bit", it will play it if copied locally in MX Player Pro, I cannot get it to stream as it is challenging for my Wifi. It uses HW+ decoder when playing and plays smoothly. MX Player does not seem to handle HDR yet though.
truc113 said:
Hi guys,
currently hesitating between s4 and s5e, what most preoccupy me is video decoding capabilities regarding hevc (aka h265) 10bits videos.
From spec it's clear s4 can hardware decode 10bit hevc, I have a phone with same snapdragon 835 chipset and such videos are indeed smooth to play on it.
For s5e I'm not sure as chipset spec seem to imply 10bits videos are not hardware decoded and I haven't been able to test it in any outlet yet.
Has anyone here with a s5e already tried to play hevc 10-bits videos like some found on http://jell.yfish.us/ for example?
For those who know mxplayer, are 10bit hevc videos read using HW+ mode or HW or SW?
do "codec infos" apps show Main10 support for hevc?
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Tried "jellyfish-40-mbps-hd-hevc-10bit", it will play it if copied locally in MX Player Pro, I cannot get it to stream as it is challenging for my Wifi. It uses HW+ decoder when playing and plays smoothly. MX Player does not seem to handle HDR yet though.
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well that's great news! :good:
not surprised about HDR, even devices supposed to support it lack support from content provider (netflix, amazon, etc) anyway
jrac86 said:
I was in this exact scenario. Bought s4 and then a week later, the tab s5e was announced. I was just as torn and decided to preorder the tab s5e (6gb model) just to see how it compared. Once I had it in hand, I was sold. The form factor is amazing for watching movies, reading, or browsing. I know some say that they are worried it will bend, and if you are going to be applying pressure on the tablet in that sort of way, then do not get this tablet - I cannot speak for metal warping however. For normal usage, this is a great tablet. I compared it between the s4 and here were my ultimate conclusions:
- The weight and size difference looks small on paper, but damn, this is a nice tablet to hold and the s4 feels like a tank in comparison.
- The S5e (and the s4) both ran very well in everyday tasks - did not experience any noticeable performance issues. The tab s4 did launch apps slightly faster, but nothing that would make you think the s5e was slow or laggy. Without a direct comparison, this would likely not even be noticeable.
- Screen quality was the exact same.
- The speakers on the s5e were surprisingly better, much louder and clearer. Nothing wrong with the s4 speakers, but these were better
- Call and message continuity is such a nice feature for those who don't want to have to carry their samsung phones with them when using the tablet around the house - I was very annoyed that this did not come to the s4 with the android pie update.
- The s5e can handle light gaming great - I do not play intensive games, but I am sure it would have issues with those due to less powerful hardware.
- Personally, I like the s5e's fingerprint scanner much more than the iris scanning on the s4 - but this is a matter of preference.
- So far, battery life seemed to be slightly better on the s4, but the s5e still does a great job lasting through the day.
Those who need an s pen, headphone jack, vibration, camera flash, or heavy gaming usage should not get the s5e and instead look at the s4. I also tried to replicate the wifi antenna issue on the s5e and was unable to see any signal drop - although this might just be an issue with particular models/hardware batches (I have the US wifi model).
At the end of the day, no one can tell you what is the right device for YOU. You need to decide what is important to you in a device and pick the one that best fits your needs. If you decide to go with the bigger, more powerful tab s4, it will perform great. If you are willing to trade off some power and hardware features for increased mobility, the tab s5e is still a great tablet. I was initially intimidated by the benchmarks and people saying that the tab s4 was better... but in the end, I am extremely happy with the tab s5e and will be selling my tab s4.
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How does the screen brightness of the 2 tablets compare as according to online specs I've seen, the S4 has 463 nits and the S5e 600 so in theory the S5e screen should be slightly brighter.