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Hi Guys,
Greetings from Japan.
Change my smartphone regularly as I love gadgets and technology.
Daily drivers have included Galaxy Note 3, 5, A9 Pro, and most recently S7 Edge.
Have also owned, Xperia Z3, Z5 Premium, LG G3, G4, V10, V20, Blackberry Passport, Priv, Nexus 6P, Huawei Mate 7, P9, iPhone 6S Plus
Lots of people picking up the new Galaxy S8+ now which I considered along with the LG G6.
Been enamored with the MIX since I first saw it last year.
Price of the 6gb 256gb model came all the way down under 70,000 yen which is cheaper than both the the LG and S8+ (by a lot vs the Galaxy) so I jumped on it.
Few first impressions after a few days of it replacing my S7 Edge.
- Beautiful phone. Please note I love big phones. The finish and style is superb. As many have noted though, slipperiest phone I have ever used.
- Screen size is immersive and the screen to body ratio just awesome. I actually feel the S8+ screen is a bit to narrow and I like the resolution of the MIX. However, one negative is (and this is my personal taste), I find the colors not as punchy as I'm used to with the Amoled screens. I don't find the color accuracy as good as other high end phones. (no official testing, just by eye).
- Games and multimedia on this phone are amazing.
- Very surprised at the plug in sound quality. Currently use a Onkyo DP-X1 digital audio player which is in my opinion one of the best DAP's out there. To compare, the MIX is as powerful and the quality is much better than any Samsung phone. I don't have my LG phones on hand to compare directly anymore but I'd say its maybe a step below the DAC's on the V10 and V20. Compared to the DP-X1, slightly less clean, less punch on the low end, and a narrower sound stage but the DP-X1 will blow away any phone. Phone wise, I would not hesitate to plug in my Sony MDR-1A or Audio Technica MSR7.
- Sorry, I'll say it, camera is terrible. Many of the phones I owned in the past had amazing cameras. This does not. I think enough has been discussed on this so I'll leave it at that.
- I can't comment much on the MIUI skin/system launcher. After a few hours I threw on Nova Launcher. There are bugs with MIUI that I experienced as follows:
- Double knock to wake does not work after the phone has been sleeping for longer periods of time. If I shut the screen off and double tap within a few minutes it wakes the phone
but if I do it after say 20 minutes, it will not and I need to press the power button to wake.
- Notifications were hit and miss at the beginning. Was strangely unreliable as there were times the phone was locked and no notifications came through. I turned off a bunch of
MIUI optimizations and now they "seem" to work but will monitor.
- Speaking of notifications, when do not disturb is turned on, messages like LINE Messenger are not silenced, even I have I set to silence all with NO exceptions.
- The auto brightness performance is slow/poor. Turned it off and manually adjust brightness for now.
- I've allowed the dock to be hidden but sometimes really hard to swipe away in certain apps.
- Had to redo default apps several times as they kept getting reset.
- Setting wallpapers seems more difficult than it has to be whether it be in MIUI or Nova (which is even more buggy in this setup for wallpapers).
- Clock widgets don't work. Time does not reflect phone time (stands still) - this could be a Nova thing with MIUI.
- I've played around with the memory management and it seems MIUI does a poor job at it. When I have no apps running/open there are times the system memory and apps running
in background use up over 2gb - luckily this phone has 6gb. This worsens over time and is cleared with a restart.
- Seems like when phone goes to sleep it was no longer connected to wifi. I had to turn on the option to leave wifi and data on (Switch between Data and Wifi option) which
appears to fix this.
- and other things that are probably minor that I don't remember.
In general I love the phone for its design and hardware (except for the camera). In my opinion if it had an Amoled screen, a better, at least decent camera, and at least addressed some of the basic bugs (no matter how beautiful a phone is if notifications don't work out of the box... its unacceptable), this phone would be untouchable.
Of course some of the bugs could be just user error so feel free to point me in the right direction if this is the case.
Also I have rooted and flashed some of my devices in the past with custom roms. Let me know if you think flashing to another rom would solve some issues.
Should note the Rom it came with is MIUI Global 8.2 | Stable 8.2.1.0 (MAHMIDL).
Thanks for reading.
I share a lot of your frustrations, then I installed Epic rom. It's a totally different beast. I highly recommend it.
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gocchin said:
- I've played around with the memory management and it seems MIUI does a poor job at it. When I have no apps running/open there are times the system memory and apps running
in background use up over 2gb - luckily this phone has 6gb. This worsens over time and is cleared with a restart.
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Greetings from Bangkok
Are you aware, that an operating system using more RAM doesn't mean bad RAM management at all?
Here's a very good ELI5 (Explain like I'm 5) explanation of the misunderstanding:
"So, imagine you have a store full of books. Most of the books are in storage. So when someone walks in and says "I want Book Y" you walk to the storage, get up on a ladder, grab Book Y and go back and give it to them.
Then the next 10 customers walk in and ask for Book Y, and one customer asks for Book L. So you're smart and instead of continuing to go back to storage and grabbing Book Y 10 times you just grab a bunch of Book Y once and keep a bunch on a small shelf nearby. You still get stuck grabbing Book L from storage because it's less common so you weren't ready. But at least when people ask for Book Y you don't have to go to storage.
This is obviously a better system. You can be faster at selling because a bunch of Book Y is on a nearby shelf and people keep asking for Book Y. No need to go to storage except for sometimes.
Now imagine some asshole comes in and takes all of the books off that nearby shelf every single ****ing time you stock it up. Literally you HAVE to walk all the way to storage every time because of this idiot. This guy claims he's helping to "keep your shelf clean". Meanwhile you're TRYING to use that shelf to store best-seller books.
That idiot is a RAM cleaner. Don't hire that idiot."
- https://np.reddit.com/r/Android/com...ns_antivirus_and_apps_that/d1qstqt/?context=3
And here the real, fairly more technical explanation:
"On Windows, you want to keep as much RAM available as you can so that programs have enough room to operate. When RAM fills up, Windows is forced to start using hard drive space as virtual RAM and hard drives are much slower than physical RAM.
This is not true for Android.
Android’s operating system has its own native handler for assigning RAM to apps and making sure that all of it is being used in the most optimal way. In fact, Android purposely tries to keep apps loaded into RAM for better performance. RAM is fast, remember? On mobile devices, every bit of speed is critical for a good user experience, so keeping apps in RAM is actually a good thing.
Not only does Android handle RAM assignment, but it also keeps track of background apps so they don’t use up unnecessary processor resources. There’s no noticeable performance hit for leaving apps loaded in RAM."
- http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ram-boosters-task-killers-bad-android/
underlines said:
Greetings from Bangkok
Are you aware, that an operating system using more RAM doesn't mean bad RAM management at all?
Here's a very good ELI5 (Explain like I'm 5) explanation of the misunderstanding:
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Thanks a lot for the analogy which certainly does make sense.
Perhaps I should not have used the words "poor job".
I certainly do understand the benefits of keeping apps loaded in ram for speed. I just found it odd that even before I turned off the MIUI optimizations which were supposed to be killing off apps, I would watch ram in use creep from 1gb to 2gb even after launching no apps.
I am still in the learning phase for this phone so will surely pick up its tendencies and quirks more as I go along.
Thanks for the input.
thklinge said:
I share a lot of your frustrations, then I installed Epic rom. It's a totally different beast. I highly recommend it.
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Care to elaborate?
I am also using the stock global 8.2.1 and I am really curious as to what you mean with totally different beast..
I already unlock bootloader so I can flash custom ROM, but I was actually living with stock global until ResurrectionRemix or LineageOS would be more bug free and go with them ad I love the "stock Google - Pixel esperienze" (running Pixel Launcher atm)..but I could surely benefit of a better ROM meanwhile.
Thanks in advance!
No more weird Chinese letters in some apps, no Chinese apps running in the background, no more lost notifications, better battery life, snappier response, and so on. I use nova launcher anyways so not sure about the launcher. But it's a real waste of space to have so few icons on such a large screen. I use a 8x5 grid.
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gocchin said:
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Also I have rooted and flashed some of my devices in the past with custom roms. Let me know if you think flashing to another rom would solve some issues.
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Ressurection Remix rom will solve all your software issues.
I too hope MIX 2 will have a good dual camera setup, and an amoled qhd screen
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OTA for 8.2.4 Global Stable came yesterday. Seems to have fixed my do not disturb issues.
Double tap to wake still inconsistent.
Will try for a few days before considering flashing to a custom ROM.
I have been using my MIX for three days now and I am very impressed with it. Along with mix in our circle of friends there is an iPhone 7 plus and Galaxy S8 Plus.
Experiencing with all 3, I love my MIX, its speed looks, and features. I am happy that I got it.
Before this I had Mi5, I still miss my mi5 size and beauty but I don't regret getting the MIX.
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I got my MIX from Dubai, I live in the UK, my phone was sealed and came with 8,2 stable global. I am just curious that it came bootloader unlocked. As soon as I turned on the phone, set it up I got the update for 8.2.40 which mean genuine Xiaomi Rom. did anyone else get their phone bootloader unlocked. due to this my phone shows device not certified on google play, due to this I cant download Netflix and I don't know which app will stop working next
zabihjan said:
...I got my MIX from Dubai, I live in the UK, my phone was sealed and came with 8,2 stable global. I am just curious that it came bootloader unlocked. As soon as I turned on the phone, set it up I got the update for 8.2.40 which mean genuine Xiaomi Rom.
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Let's assume that Xiaomi ships the devices from the factory with bootloader locked.
Even if the reseller has a way to unlock the bootloader without the usual method with a MI account, it is certain that they cannot do it wirelessly with the device powered down and inside the box.
So it is either that Xiaomi ships it unlocked, or the box has been opened, the device unlocked, and the box resealed again.
zabihjan said:
....due to this my phone shows device not certified on google play, due to this I cant download Netflix and I don't know which app will stop working next
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Try the Magisk module which is for passing the safetynet check
Nikos2k said:
Let's assume that Xiaomi ships the devices from the factory with bootloader locked.
Even if the reseller has a way to unlock the bootloader without the usual method with a MI account, it is certain that they cannot do it wirelessly with the device powered down and inside the box.
So it is either that Xiaomi ships it unlocked, or the box has been opened, the device unlocked, and the box resealed again.
Try the Magisk module which is for passing the safetynet check
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I get cts profile mismatch
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zabihjan said:
I get cts profile mismatch
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Here's the thread for this module:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/xiaomi-safetynet-fix-t3600431
Send him your magisk log and your xiaomi-safetynet-fix.log
(/magisk/xiaomi-safetynet-fix/xiaomi-safetynet-fix.log)
Nikos2k said:
Here's the thread for this module:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/xiaomi-safetynet-fix-t3600431
Send him your magisk log and your xiaomi-safetynet-fix.log
(/magisk/xiaomi-safetynet-fix/xiaomi-safetynet-fix.log)
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Thank you for reminding me of this. I will get on with it asap
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i did a full wipe and flashed using miflash latest global and locked the bootloader. after one day of use when I heard the global dev is coming out I unlocked bootloader again and guess what Netflix is working, cts mismatch is gone and device is certified on google play. now waiting global dev and official lineage
Bought Mi Mix 6gb yesterday (Sold my Galaxy Tab S2 T710 as the promised upgrade seems never happen, and my LG V10 due to heat issue) using global ROM and updated it to 8.2.5.0. Everything seems alright so far except it doesn't have Japanese locale. The translation project says it is 94% complete.
Audio quality is as great as LG G6, with my RHA T10 in ear headphone.
I prefer Mi Mix (or LG G6) to GS8+.
Now have to wait for the delivery of transparent cases...
Hi,
I hope you don't mind where you bought your Mix in Dubai? As I am interested in buying one and not sure where to get it as I am in DUbai also.
zabihjan said:
I have been using my MIX for three days now and I am very impressed with it. Along with mix in our circle of friends there is an iPhone 7 plus and Galaxy S8 Plus.
Experiencing with all 3, I love my MIX, its speed looks, and features. I am happy that I got it.
Before this I had Mi5, I still miss my mi5 size and beauty but I don't regret getting the MIX.
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I got my MIX from Dubai, I live in the UK, my phone was sealed and came with 8,2 stable global. I am just curious that it came bootloader unlocked. As soon as I turned on the phone, set it up I got the update for 8.2.40 which mean genuine Xiaomi Rom. did anyone else get their phone bootloader unlocked. due to this my phone shows device not certified on google play, due to this I cant download Netflix and I don't know which app will stop working next
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macmel said:
Hi,
I hope you don't mind where you bought your Mix in Dubai? As I am interested in buying one and not sure where to get it as I am in DUbai also.
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https://uae.souq.com/ae-en/xiaomi-m...PJ3Q.0&utm_referrer=https://www.google.co.uk/
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zabihjan said:
https://uae.souq.com/ae-en/xiaomi-m...PJ3Q.0&utm_referrer=https://www.google.co.uk/
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Thank you very much , appreciate it.
Currently my rooted 6T has been playing backup to my un-rooted T-Mobile Note 9 (on Oreo) but I keep feeling tempted to go back to the 6T as my daily. Then after a couple of weeks I start to miss the Note 9. I use a Bamboo Tip on the 6T so the S-Pen envy stays at a minimum when using the 6T but then small things like Samsug's calendar app (that I can't get to work on the 6T), the Note 9's brighter display at its halfway brightness setting, WIRELESS CHARGING and the purpose-built stereo speakers (although the 6T's single speaker is quite loud).
Those are just things I'm actually struggling to define but when I'm one device I'm missing the other and visa versa. Is anyone else crazy like me with this topic? Maybe I just have commitment issues. Shut up! You're not my ex wife! Jokes aside, I keep switching back and forth between my 6T and Note 9. Is anyone else doing this with other devices? How do you deal with the itch to keep swapping phones? Thanks for sharing!
I switch almost weekly to my Pixel 3 XL. There are things I like about both phones.
Well I made a complete switch today from the note 9 running pie to the 6t yeah I miss the brighter screen and the screen being a bit bigger horizontally but that is about it, I love how has this thing is a bit faster than my pixel 2 xl running pie.
Let see how the battery holds
Ok...maybe I'm worse and a bit of an idiot but....I'm currently paying on and dont laugh when I say this but s8+,x2 lg g6(one for the wife),s7 edge,note 8 and one plus 6t
right now the note 8 one ui pie beta
and one plus 6t is what I'm going back and forth with
but I'm currently running note 8 as the whole system is dark mode out without customization apps but then I'll start to think about my oneplus which is by far the most stable phone without lag i have ever used so yeah it's a toss up
I'm the same I have a S9 and the 6T that I switch between I mostly use the 6T but about once a month I switch to the S9 for a couple of days then back to the 6T. My biggest issue with the S9 is it seems small to me because I have big hands and the 6T feels just right. I like the S9 features but like I said the size bothers me which I should have gotten the S9+ which would have fit my hands better and maybe I would stay with that one since I like the S9 features.
No AOD means no OP6t for me (I'd have one otherwise£ but I do switch between note 9, 3 XL and xs max. I hate it but I guess that means not one of them tick all the boxes.
Xs max to use the apple watch
3 XL for camera and vanilla android zippyness
Note for all round and extra storage (over pixel)
Or maybe I just need help!
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arsenal74 said:
No AOD means no OP6t for me (I'd have one otherwise£ but I do switch between note 9, 3 XL and xs max. I hate it but I guess that means not one of them tick all the boxes.
Xs max to use the apple watch
3 XL for camera and vanilla android zippyness
Note for all round and extra storage (over pixel)
Or maybe I just need help!
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I have and on McLaren model stock, and they do have a magisk module for it on the regular 6t
I use the 6T then switch back to my iPhone 6s when the 6T does something that irks me. Today I pulled the SIM because I get sick of my cheek selecting the drop down and clicking icons. The proximity sensor works fine when I test it but for some reason my cheek will do crazy stuff. Time before last my cheek dragged the notification shade down and selected airplane mode and disconnected me from my call.
This silly stuff just does not happen on my iPhone.
Why not just root and switch roms? That's what I do when I get bored of the phone
I hop between my 6T modded and my S9+ Modded. Why? Front mounted stereo speakers are so much better for gaming. Performance is identical and sadly, even without root on my S9+, I've achieved nearly the same amount of necessary customization. I came back to OnePlus for the freedom and dev-friendliness but that seems to not be a thing anymore.
Well I'm just glad I'm not the only one, and here I was thinking I had a real problem, almost started drinking full time to cope. I have the note 8 and 6t. I got the 6t day one from tmo, one of 2 in the area from what I was told and have used it for a total of about 1 month. I use my note 8 for work as there is no better work phone and on the weekends I was using the 6t until I wanted to use it longer so start using it after work on the way home while driving but needed more of it so in the morning to work as well. After a week I said I wanted to save the battery and could just use the note as it does everything, so back in the box went the 6t for about another week or 2. Then I told myself I was just going to use it for Christmas for pictures and then put it away until my birthday in April. Well I ended up using both for pictures for about 2 weeks until I rooted the 6t with McLaren edition. Did that for about another 2 weeks and went back to the stock rom while still placing it back and forth in the box for a day or 2. Keep in mind I'm starting to think I'm going crazy and I really mean it. I had a 6s plus in the mix but sold it on Christmas and I thought that would help, it didn't. It's now been 2 weeks and I just today, I swear to all of you, I have been using the note 8 for the past 2 weeks and this morning i placed my 6t in my backpack thinking I would use it for the ride home but have yet to turn it on because I really want to make it until my Birthday. I'm so glad I'm not the only one like this, I really mean it. Thank you for this post.
toolhas4degrees said:
I have and on McLaren model stock, and they do have a magisk module for it on the regular 6t
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Kills battery I think though. Samsung, Google and LG have shown that a native AOD can work without too big a battery hit, LG even managed it on an LCD!
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I swap between the one plus 6t and the Razer phone 2. Used to swap between OnePlus 6t and pixel XL 2 but found someone who wanted to trade my pixel xl 2 for the newest Razer phone and I couldn't pass up that $400 savings deal as I paid $300 for my pixel XL 2 and the Razer phone 2 retails at $699. Love having a fast flagship in OnePlus 6t and a media/gaming giant in the Razer phone 2 with 8 Gb Ram and a 120 hz refresh rate!
arsenal74 said:
Kills battery I think though. Samsung, Google and LG have shown that a native AOD can work without too big a battery hit, LG even managed it on an LCD!
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I had a s7edge and note 8 never used it on those devices bc it drained battery bad. But on this device I don't see much or little drain. Battery is relatively great for me on stock kernel
Sorry if I have misunderstood but are saying that the McLaren has an AOD out of the box!
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yeah , me , i use oneplus 6t one day iphone xs max one day , i like the speakers from iphone ,
if i got a service day i will pick up oneplus 6t because i do tweaks install apps from black market and hacks ,
if a got a heavy day i will get the iphone xs max ,is the just do it phone for me ,
love the apple pay and speakers and the display, the brightness for my iphone stays at 30 procent,
with oneplus 6t i need to boost the brightness up to 75-80 procent to be easy redable and no , is not because the screen protector
is just the way oneplus tweaked ,
also what i like is how easy to use is the device , the fact that i got the flashlight in the lockscreen for iphone and
the first page on the left on iphone is imposible to reproduct on another devices
for me the first pick is iPhone XS max and 2nd pick is oneplus 6t
I can controll everything with my iphone xs LIFX light bulbs ,sockets on off ,and all of them they are there on first page
if you try to add the widget on oneplus first page witch they name it shelf ,they don't fit they are oversize or
the shelf did not show all the info , so for me android is not so polished seems to be unfinished , is not made to be compatible
thanks for reading and sorry for so much explanation
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Sorry if I have misunderstood but are saying that the McLaren has an AOD out of the box!
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Yes, it's called ambient display though in settings. the regular 6ts do not as far as I know. But the aid is in their system regardless, they just don't have it available in their settings
Hence the magisk module for it to be used on their devices
arsenal74 said:
Sorry if I have misunderstood but are saying that the McLaren has an AOD out of the box!
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No. It's the same Ambient display.
toolhas4degrees said:
Yes, it's called ambient display though in settings. the regular 6ts do not as far as I know. But the aid is in their system regardless, they just don't have it available in their settings
Hence the magisk module for it to be used on their devices
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Ambient display is not the same as AOD, it is more like the iPhone raise to wake.
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Ambient display is not the same as AOD, it is more like the iPhone raise to wake.
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Looks the same as Samsung aod. That's why I called it as such
I would swap my 6t with an s10+ when the price will fall (perhaps with note 10 unveiling).
Though I am curious to see if someone went from the 6t to s10+, if he or she regrets or is happy by doing it.
Also is the camera much better? The 2x optical zoom are good?
vegetaleb said:
I would swap my 6t with an s10+ when the price will fall (perhaps with note 10 unveiling).
Though I am curious to see if someone went from the 6t to s10+, if he or she regrets or is happy by doing it.
Also is the camera much better? The 2x optical zoom are good?
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No regrets at all.
vegetaleb said:
I would swap my 6t with an s10+ when the price will fall (perhaps with note 10 unveiling).
Though I am curious to see if someone went from the 6t to s10+, if he or she regrets or is happy by doing it.
Also is the camera much better? The 2x optical zoom are good?
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Im happy with the decision!
Even tho, the Oxygen os is smother than the One UI but there are many different launchers for you to choose!,
Well, I switched from OP6 not T... Main issue with S10+ that I have is that the action bar (or whatever that thing at the top is) and the notification pull down menu thing seems so blown out of scale compared to OP6... I mean it is huge. I really wish there would be another option for making text and icons even smaller one step.
Another thing I noticed is that OP6 had better white colour of the display (S10+ seems a bit yellowish). At least to my taste... display adjustment sliders actually do something compared to S10+ (I imagine that is the same for any Samsung FW).
Another thing is screen real-estate. They are about so so, especially because of that stupid selfie cam positioned so far away from the top edge on S10+ which takes the advantage of screen to body ratio away from S10+ as it makes action bar really thick... I mean really thick. If you open youtube app you will see this humongous gray bar at the top which to me is very ugly. I get it they had to make something unique to Samsung design so that they actually get told apart from other brands. But still.. damn they could have just placed the cams in the top right corner and call it a day.
Navigation gestures instead of navigation bar are also more intuitive to use on OP, especially one handed since you have to reach the far corner to swipe up and open recent apps pm S10+ while on OP just just drag further up from the middle.
USB C port is better on my S10+ compared to OP6 though.... OP6 you can wiggle plugged in cable in it which drives me crazy. Curved screen is also annoying because you will be palm pressing stuff you didn't want to every time you will reach on the other side one handed. I have a case that is quite deep to fix that.
I can't say yet on the battery.
Signal wise they are so so, with OP6 having a slightly better WiFi reception. I'm talking like one side of the bead vs both sides of the bead.
On the other hand having all those optional samsung apps like music, calendar, on S10 is a real plus. I really did not like the way OP didn't include their own. App wise Samsung has nice little features OP doesn't like when a contact that you saved with company name as well calls you, that is displayed.
Oh and Samsung is whoring for icon pack and themes microtransactions, they won't let you do it anyway other than through their theme app. Quite annoying. Yeah you get custom launchers... But stock is good enough for me, I can't be bothered to get something custom and then fine tune it additionally. Also, hardware buttons are so badly placed it hurts my feelings.
I would say... skip S10+ and wait for S11+ or something that will have 5G as well. IMO it is not worth it. Hopefully they wizen up regarding selfie cam on next gen as well. I imagine their CPU will be more mature at that point as well.
Unless you get the thing for a bargain (that is why I have it) and turn a profit after the switch.
Why not swap for next months OnePlus 7 or 7 pro?
Went from 6T to S10+ last week and I'm happy with the phone. You absolutely need to wait until you get the biometric update though because before that, wow, the fingerprint scanner is garbage.
What I like : Screen cutout is fine and the display is beautiful, fast wireless charging is far more convenient than I imagined, One UI is good but not as snappy as the 6T, headphone jack is also really nice to have and I was concerned about the curved display but it's not nearly as bad as the Note 9 that I had for a few weeks. It's still easy to accidentally "palm touch" the screen but it's manageable. Bixby button, well, I remapped it to camera for now and I'll use that 3rd party app to change it to the assistant so it's okay but no button would be better.
What I miss : Hardware selector for ring/vibrate/mute, having the status bar icons all the way to the right, not closer to the middle, and as someone else mentioned, notifications seem way too big on One UI. It's a huge 6.4 inch display for 4 notifications and you are running out of screen space. I have a feeling Android Q will make notifications even better.
Better wait for OP7 unveiling then, if OP finally chooses a good camera setup then I will stay in OP territory.
What about custom roms? Is it a pain like on 6t because of encryption and dual slots?
I have both the unlocked OnePlus 6t and the T-Mobile version. I bought the S10 Plus knowing I would not be able to root it and thought I was going to hate it. Well both of my 6t's are sitting on my desk unused since I bought the S10 Plus.
The S10 Plus has so many options I have not missed root once (or some of the headaches that come with it...Google Pay not working because Google updates something that breaks Magisk hide). This is coming from someone who has rooted every phone I've had since the OG Droid. With the S10 Plus you can use themes (I just use dark mode) ad block system wide with Adhell3, hide notification bar icons and so much more.
Camera on the S10 Plus is so much better than the OnePlus 6t. Before I bought my first OnePlus 6t I had the Pixel 3 XL and I would switch between the two because of the camera. I ended up selling the Pixel 3 XL because of the battery life.
The hole punch did bug me at first with the icons being pushed towards the center but after a few days I didn't notice it anymore.
The gestures on the OnePlus 6t are hands down the best on any Android phone but with a guide on her I switched the stock S10 Plus gestures for ones that are pretty close to the OnePlus 6t.
Battery on the S10 Plus I'm getting between 9 to 12 hours of screen on time, which is better than the OnePlus 6t.
If someone asked me to trade a S10 Plus for my OnePlus 6t before I used the S10 Plus I would have laughed at them. Now if I was asked I wouldn't think twice.
I do miss the physical silent slider from the OnePlus 6t but I honestly think that's all I miss.
Don't get me wrong, I love the OnePlus 6t and will be buying the 7 or 7t, but the S10 Plus is just a hands down better phone.
I had the 8/256g version of the 6T. TBH I really loved the stock android experience vs the S10+ samsung One UI. A side note, I bought the Hong Kong version of the S10+ with the SD855 (I didnt want the Exynos version sold where I live in Australia)
For me, here are the Pos + and Negs -
S10+
=Equal battery life (6hrs SOT on both)
+Better screen
+Better camera (way better!)
+Headphone Jack
+Waterproofing
+Ultra Fast
+Build quality
+dual sim (or Sim + SD card)
-updates still need to come faster
+speaker quality is excellent
OnePlus 6T
=Equal battery life (6hrs SOT on both)
-No waterproofing (splash proof only)
-No memory expansion
-Camera (good quality, but dont do panoramic photos)
=QHD screen (its awesome quality though and great for gaming - no touch lag)
+One of the fastest SD845 phones
+dual SIM
-No Headphone Jack
+Excellent cases (The Karbon bumper by Evutec is awesome!)
+fast Android updates (faster than almost Google)
I was going to wait for the OP7, but the pop up camera errked me a lot. I'm really glad I went S10+. It was definitely an upwards step, not sideways - but in saying that, the 6T is very much a complete phone (except for the panaromic photos)
Btw is the exynos camera that bad compared to snapdragon?
I hope samsung will drop prices of s10+ when note 10 will be annouced, the 970$ price here is way too much
I do.... The biggest upgrade for me is camera..its a way better than 6t. I miss oxygen OS cleanliness and neat. I also miss 6t optical FP, i dont know but it seems faster on 6t...and what i really miss is MOD for 6t and flexibility of rooting and modding.
vegetaleb said:
Btw is the exynos camera that bad compared to snapdragon?
I hope samsung will drop prices of s10+ when note 10 will be annouced, the 970$ price here is way too much
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The post image processing on the Exynos seems to be worse. I saw the review showing the differences, and its real...
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The post image processing on the Exynos seems to be worse. I saw the review showing the differences, and its real...
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Can a custom rom help?
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Can a custom rom help?
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Seems to be hardware related. I'll try to find the camera comparison and link it here
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Can a custom rom help?
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https://www.anandtech.com/show/14072/the-samsung-galaxy-s10plus-review/14
Seems related to HDR and wide angle cam shots.
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Seems to be hardware related. I'll try to find the camera comparison and link it here
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https://www.anandtech.com/show/14072/the-samsung-galaxy-s10plus-review/14
Seems related to HDR and wide angle cam shots.
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So the cpu can't handle photo processing at full potential, this is strange given exynos is perhaps not as good as 855 but certainly capable of complex image processing. I am not a big fan of super wide photos with a smartphone, so how's the difference with the normal lens and 2x optical zoom?
I came from the 6T to an S10+ and went back to the store yesterday to exchange the phone to a pixel 3. Couldn't get past the fingerprint sensor issues, duplicated apps including an app store, and Android auto didn't work as well in my civic as with my pixel 2 or 6T. Not sure why
How would you guys compare it to the pixel 3
On edge whether I should sell my pixel 3 and get a S10+
Is the camera (point and shoot) better than the pixel 3
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How would you guys compare it to the pixel 3
On edge whether I should sell my pixel 3 and get a S10+
Is the camera (point and shoot) better than the pixel 3
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I exchanged my S10+ for a P3XL because the fingerprint sensor, even with the update and the screen protector off doesn't work well at all. I have very dry hands, maybe that's why but for me it was bad. The 6T had no problems.
As to the UI, I actually like it. We can cry about updates all day but stock One UI has more features than Stock Android and some of them are really nice. Having a video on the lockscreen for example, themes, the animations, lots of very nice things about One UI but something that you can't get away from is duplicate apps. Samsung backup, android backup. Samsung play store, android play store, etc.
When you look at the phone's hardware, the S10 is so much nicer and the cutout, even the double one, is nicer than a notch. Using the phone though, for me, is much nicer on 6T and Pixel.
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I exchanged my S10+ for a P3XL because the fingerprint sensor, even with the update and the screen protector off doesn't work well at all. I have very dry hands, maybe that's why but for me it was bad. The 6T had no problems.
As to the UI, I actually like it. We can cry about updates all day but stock One UI has more features than Stock Android and some of them are really nice. Having a video on the lockscreen for example, themes, the animations, lots of very nice things about One UI but something that you can't get away from is duplicate apps. Samsung backup, android backup. Samsung play store, android play store, etc.
When you look at the phone's hardware, the S10 is so much nicer and the cutout, even the double one, is nicer than a notch. Using the phone though, for me, is much nicer on 6T and Pixel.
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How does the camera fare?
I came from the 6t and the only thing I miss is viper4android. Dolby sound is a step up from previous Samsung phones, but I still get better sound with viper on a rooted phone. I will have to say that Dolby is pretty good and it will have to do becAuse the snapdragon will never get root ?
Ok so ive always been a Nexus/Pixel guy, Had the Galaxy Nexus Nexus 5 Nexus 6P and Pixel 2 XL (current phone)
Mainly for fast updates
Always get new "Google" features first
Easy Root / Substratum
Buuuuuuut the Pixel 3, 3a Especially the 4, 4A were all a huge MEH and the 5 looks to be the biggest MEH ever.
So ive been looking at the OnePlus 8 Pro looking through the forums it reminds me of the Nexus days with ROMS and Kernals MODs etc.
A few questions though before i pull the trigger (still trying to come to grips with a $900 price tag for a OnePlus)
Ill probably try to use the phone without rooting but most likely end up rooting.
1. Netflix L1/L3 Widevine. Can someone give me a definitive answer as to if we can get HD with unlocked bootloaders. I am getting conflicting info going though the forum. Some posts say NO. Some say they got it working through certain root methods.. Some say they have it working running certain custom roms or custom kernals or Magisk moduals such as XXX No Limits. And them some say that after a certain OP official update that it now works.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-8-pro/help/bootloader-widevine-l1-t4092027
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-8-pro/help/custom-rom-allow-hd-netflix-rooted-t4092093
2. Notification Light
All my Nexi/Pixels had a notification light and i used Light Manager to make them flash different colors and speeds depending on the app etc.
I know that the OP8 and most phones now a days dont have the light. But i see things like AODNotify do these apps work well? I dont really like AOD and always had it turned off on the pixel.
Any info is appreciated.
I sold my pixel 4xl for the OnePlus 8 Pro. Honestly, I regret it.
Even with gcam the camera doesn't come close. 8 should have waited for the pixel 5 ? I feel like the pixel phones are very simplistic, bit you get a very solid experience with them. I can't stand the curved edges of the op8pro and the camera is worse that what I had before, which kills me. If someone makes a pixel experience ROM I'll be happy but even then I won't be able to install my banks app due to root. The grass isn't always greener, friend.
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I sold my pixel 4xl for the OnePlus 8 Pro. Honestly, I regret it.
Even with gcam the camera doesn't come close. 8 should have waited for the pixel 5 I feel like the pixel phones are very simplistic, bit you get a very solid experience with them. I can't stand the curved edges of the op8pro and the camera is worse that what I had before, which kills me. If someone makes a pixel experience ROM I'll be happy but even then I won't be able to install my banks app due to root. The grass isn't always greener, friend.
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Yeah the P4XL to me was a step backward. I NEED a finger print reader. Faceunlock is dumb. SOLI or w/e it was called was a huge let down. And it was really the only "new" feature of the phone.
I would normally get a Pixel 5 but sorry a Snapdragon 765G really? And it will still cost probably $800+
I ditched the 3XL for the 8Pro before the payoff date and I don't have regrets. Yeah, the camera was nice but I had other reasons.
I see PE has built a ROM for the Nord but not the 8/8Pro, maybe one is coming......
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Oh. The curved edge was weird at first but I've adapted....
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I had exactly the same thoughts like you, but I came from the Pixel 1.
I didn't regret it one second going to Oneplus 8 Pro!
The updates are quick and much more easy to flash then I used to. Indeed, the phone is larger, but I knew that when I bought it.
First I thought root wasn't necessary but I ended up rooting and, again, it's much easier to do then with the Pixel.
I don't use netflix L1/L3 widevine but there's a thread about it somewhere on this forum
Notification light: there are moreapps but I use aodNotify and it works like a charm. (I have 3% battery consumption over the night, several colors eso) But: that's my experience.
Conclusion: for me it was and still is a go.
I hope it helps you with your decision.
Have already given my thoughts about moving to OnePlus from any other phone from the past or even currently available.
In short, it's a resounding yes.
Nice im sooooooo close to pulling the trigger.
It looks like according to what i can find. That as of update 10.5.10 (i think it was) that with a unlocked bootloader and proper Magisk Hide that you can get L1. And that was my biggest concern.
Sure the camera isnt as good but i dont think i use it enough (or enough where i would really look at the quality of a pic) to worry THAT much. I mainly use it to send a pic via MMS or RCS when i see something interesting at the store and send it to a friend or family member lol.
And i think a Snapdragon 865 and a larger 120hz 1440p display and super fast storage/RAM will suit me better then not those things but a good camera (Pixel 5)
This badboy OnePlus 8 Pro is the sweetest ride... especially on XDA!
I have pulled the trigger and am looking forward to it.
I bought the IN2020 version and was wondering if I'll be missing anything that the global IN2023 has?
Any thoughts?
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Nice im sooooooo close to pulling the trigger.
It looks like according to what i can find. That as of update 10.5.10 (i think it was) that with a unlocked bootloader and proper Magisk Hide that you can get L1. And that was my biggest concern.
Sure the camera isnt as good but i dont think i use it enough (or enough where i would really look at the quality of a pic) to worry THAT much. I mainly use it to send a pic via MMS or RCS when i see something interesting at the store and send it to a friend or family member lol.
And i think a Snapdragon 865 and a larger 120hz 1440p display and super fast storage/RAM will suit me better then not those things but a good camera (Pixel 5)
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You should be concerned about this if you need bank apps etc .
https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/03/11/safetynet-improvements-kill-magisk-hide/
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You should be concerned about this if you need bank apps etc .
https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/03/11/safetynet-improvements-kill-magisk-hide/
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Root is always on the chopping block. The only thing i really use root for on my Pixel 2 XL anymore is to use Substratum
The op8T/Tpro is so close to coming out is it not worth waiting for that?
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The op8T/Tpro is so close to coming out is it not worth waiting for that?
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Yes i might do this. Because then the OP8 Pro will be cheaper
Just looking for thoughts and opinions...
I am -very- new to OnePlus and have recently purchased (and returned) my first TWO OnePlus devices. I bought a 7 Pro model on amazon that was supposed to be a Gm1917, but turned out to be a Gm1925 (t-mobile), and returned it. Then I purchased a GM1910 (chinese non-carrier/GSM), but when received that one, was an HD1910 (7t Pro, not a 7 pro... which by the way won't even show up on OnePlus' website if it detects U.S. Ip address). So.. I returned that one too. I really want a One Plus Pro 7 Unlocked / Carrier free but it seems downright impossible to find one that is new. After two failed attempts at getting one, I'm getting disheartened. I specifically chose the OP7Pro because it seems to have everything I want from a post-purchase development side (working TWRP, Magisk, and Official Resurrection Remix Rom), as well as the fact that I already bought screen protectors and a Newendry Battery Case. I loved the camera's Pro functions and just about everything else... so here's my question/s...
Should I just buy the 8 Pro direct from OP and hope that TWRP get's up and running , as well as a Resurrection Remix port? Is the camera functions the same as the 7 Series? (I absolutely love the ability to select separate focal point from an auto-exposure point). Is it reasonable to believe that OP8Pro will indeed get an official or even unofficial but well-working TWRP?
I am so tired of dealing with misrepresented phones on Amazon, but from what I've read, Oneplus has no intent of producing more OnePlus 7 Pros and since they are all out of stock, it seems my only option is to keep playing Buy-and-return games with amazon and ebay until I actually get a phone that actually matches its listing, or to just buy a OnePlus 8 Pro.
Thoughts?
(Sorry if this is in the wrong place... feel free to scold and educate me if so.)
I would say the 8 Pro for the win! Had mine since launch and it's best device I've had. It's ultimately your call... Cheers
Go with oneplus 8 pro . I love mine. And I have latest greatest even after 8t. Still better option . I bought mine amazon .....unlocked and u will be able to twrp . Magisk etc ..
I'm with the above people... The OP8pro is a winner.
Yep, OP8P is great, I'm enjoying every minute using it.
It's fast, smooth and offers good battery life
Good luck
Don’t mean to hijack this thread but the in2025 is the USA all bands supported model dual sim unlocked right ?
8 Pro. Period.
Only thing to pay attention is model for the region you live in.
Try Swappa. Check seller ratings before purchasing too.
Well, seems to be a pretty clear cut decision for everyone. So I pulled the trigger on the OP 8Pro.
I bought direct from OnePlus this time so no false-title shenanigans. I did check swappa as well as a few other re-sell sights for the 7 pro first, as suggested, but most of the ones I found admitted to having slight burn-in at the top so.. the 8 it is. Should be receiving it today. Thanks for all your input everyone!
Had the 8 pro it's a great device, if you want a better camera though go with another phone, great all round device though
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Well, seems to be a pretty clear cut decision for everyone. So I pulled the trigger on the OP 8Pro.
I bought direct from OnePlus this time so no false-title shenanigans. I did check swappa as well as a few other re-sell sights for the 7 pro first, as suggested, but most of the ones I found admitted to having slight burn-in at the top so.. the 8 it is. Should be receiving it today. Thanks for all your input everyone!
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Nice to hear, I hope you're enjoying it mate, don't forget to share your experience
Well... Initial impressions...
I prefer the pop-up camera on the 7 more than the screen built in 8... That little black hole distracts the everliving bawhoosits out of me on the status bar... Buuuut... I can easily remedy the status bar placement with a few different xposed modules if it really bugs me later.
One thing I really like is fingerprint sensor. Seems much more accurate (or maybe inaccurate?) than the 7. That is to say, it actually registers my finger without me having to press it 4 times.
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Well... Initial impressions...
I prefer the pop-up camera on the 7 more than the screen built in 8... That little black hole distracts the everliving bawhoosits out of me on the status bar... Buuuut... I can easily remedy the status bar placement with a few different xposed modules if it really bugs me later.
One thing I really like is fingerprint sensor. Seems much more accurate (or maybe inaccurate?) than the 7. That is to say, it actually registers my finger without me having to press it 4 times.
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Download energy ring, it's on the play store, then remove the battery icon. I couldn't have this phone without it.
Free app btw..thread in the themes section.
Finger print is superb.
Is it still worth buying right now? Talking about the camera (versus P40 PRO or similar). I'm especially interested in the camera. Then , screen, batter. I know screen is amazing.
Price tag would be 850 USD
People say that camera is better on P40 Pro. The new 8T is not better then 8 pro. Is better then 8.
The OnePlus 8 Pro has some pretty bad WiFi / Bluetooth interference issues that are somewhat (though not fully) resolved in Android 11. So if you rely on VOWiFi calling with a bluetooth headset, this is not a good phone for you. Some of these may be related to the Qualcomm SOC / hardware and may not be fixable
Also if you search the site, you will see many comparisons of people getting all around better wireless speeds on the 7 Pro or even 6 series or other phones because of these issues.
I have kept mine, but I also kept my OP7Pro and have had to use it in cases where the OnePLus 8 wouldn't do VOWiFi (voice cutting in and out).
Also someone asked about dual SIM -- in the USA, I believe you need the Android 11 beta to use this. I have not tested it, but saw tons of people griping about it.
I am hoping the official Android 11 build fixes the remaining WiFi/Bluetooth issues, otherwise I am going back to OP7 Pro.
Everything else about the OP8 Pro is very nice.
Yes, you should.