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I was just looking at the prices for the P10 Lite on Amazon and both the 3gb and 4gb RAM models are listed as International Versions. Does that mean it can't be used in the US?
adam79 said:
I was just looking at the prices for the P10 Lite on Amazon and both the 3gb and 4gb RAM models are listed as International Versions. Does that mean it can't be used in the US?
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Not necessarily. It may lack carrier features and it won't work on CDMA networks (Verizon and Sprint).
Remember to check the bands the phones support and compare it to the bands your network uses. You'll want all your network's bands to be supported for optimal performance and connectivity. It should still work even with a band or two missing but you may run into issues occasionally depending on what bands are missing.
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Not necessarily. It may lack carrier features and it won't work on CDMA networks (Verizon and Sprint).
Remember to check the bands the phones support and compare it to the bands your network uses. You'll want all your network's bands to be supported for optimal performance and connectivity. It should still work even with a band or two missing but you may run into issues occasionally depending on what bands are missing.
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I think I'm gonna go with the LG G5 RS988. It only has a quad-core processor and still out performs most phones, in it's price range, with octo-cores. It also runs on all three bands that MetroPCS uses. It destroys the P10 Lite in every category when comparing them side by side on GSMArena.
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I think I'm gonna go with the LG G5 RS988. It only has a quad-core processor and still out performs most phones, in it's price range, with octo-cores. It also runs on all three bands that MetroPCS uses. It destroys the P10 Lite in every category when comparing them side by side on GSMArena.
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Of course. LG G5 is a flagship device from last year, so it should be better than a budget phone. It's cheap now because of the poor sales.
I should note that you run the risk of bootloops which has plagued a lot of LG phones including the G5 I believe. Not trying to dissuade you but I feel like I should give you a heads up so you know what you're getting into (or potentially getting into).
Hi I am interested in buying the Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 5g mainly because T-Mobile is going live with 5g where I live on Decemeber 6th 2019. But from what I know the this phone doesn't support the 5g bands for T-Mobile.
I heard that there is a way to unlock those bands on Qualcomm devices and this phone uses the Snapdragon SOC.
Can this be done?
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Hi I am interested in buying the Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 5g mainly because T-Mobile is going live with 5g where I live on Decemeber 6th 2019. But from what I know the this phone doesn't support the 5g bands for T-Mobile.
I heard that there is a way to unlock those bands on Qualcomm devices and this phone uses the Snapdragon SOC.
Can this be done?
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So the bands for 5g that tmobile supports is not dependent on just the processor, its also dependent on what the manufacturer decides on. As with all phones, you need to see what is the most compatible cell phone provider for that phone. If the mi mix 3 does not support tmobile bands, there's no way to force it to.
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So the bands for 5g that tmobile supports is not dependent on just the processor, its also dependent on what the manufacturer decides on. As with all phones, you need to see what is the most compatible cell phone provider for that phone. If the mi mix 3 does not support tmobile bands, there's no way to force it to.
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Correct. I've had a discussion on a Mi Mix 3 5g thread where this guy says it's a update thing not a hardware thing. Which I feel he's clearly wrong. Cell bands have nothing to do with updates, it's a hardware thing.
Dear slimegpod,
The frequency is supported in hardware but we did trials and only the Vodafone and global rom version has the Vodafone de 5g Network activated.
So I am on eu rom and cannot use Vodafone de 5g only Telekom and I am planning to switch ROMs but waiting for a moment to unlock since I will lose all my data.
genstef said:
Dear slimegpod,
The frequency is supported in hardware but we did trials and only the Vodafone and global rom version has the Vodafone de 5g Network activated.
So I am on eu rom and cannot use Vodafone de 5g only Telekom and I am planning to switch ROMs but waiting for a moment to unlock since I will lose all my data.
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Yes but I'm in the States and no carrier supports the Mix 3 5g. What other ROMs are you waiting for to install?
Carrier Support Not needed for mi mix 3 5g
Dear slimegood,
I called my carrier and the result was that they communicated the values to connect to the 5g network to Xiaomi and they need to add it to their firmware. The problem being that some variants of the firmware have not picked up the configuration options.
Br
Stefan
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Correct. I've had a discussion on a Mi Mix 3 5g thread where this guy says it's a update thing not a hardware thing. Which I feel he's clearly wrong. Cell bands have nothing to do with updates, it's a hardware thing.
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Any luck? The phone does not support 5G out of the box. According to manufacturers website, "5G function will be available via OTA update. Update times depend on your specific carrier and network."
Let us know if you find a way to do it without the OTA update.
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Any luck? The phone does not support 5G out of the box. According to manufacturers website, "5G function will be available via OTA update. Update times depend on your specific carrier and network."
Let us know if you find a way to do it without the OTA update.
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There should be a option under network settings. I it seems the development for this device is crap though (as far as the updates are concerned). It sucks it's on MIUI v10 which I understand why but they still should've had this figured out before releasing it.
Thanks.
Well thanks for the feedback, if the firmware gets released somebody let me know. I really like the phone, but compatibility with USA 5g is really important to me.
i dont think it will ever get 5g support in the states - it uses a different 5g tech than what the us telecoms are proceeding with as far as i was told.
Stating that - i use it on t-mobile and i get great 4g in most places.
So is there a thread for this already? Anyone one else excited to see what 5g gonna be like?
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I think this topic is a first. If my S10+ can handle 5G then I will be excited.
StoneyJSG said:
I think this topic is a first. If my S10+ can handle 5G then I will be excited.
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Yeah I'm super happy I'm in miami and damn near every where i travel is covered so truly happy about that. I'm guess well get a surprise update to active the 5g in our phones first?
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I don't know if 5G is software or hardware related. If it's software yeah there will probably be some kind of update. If it's hardware then a new phone is required.
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I don't know if 5G is software or hardware related. If it's software yeah there will probably be some kind of update. If it's hardware then a new phone is required.
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Naw the new s10 models gonna require a update. Unless you bought the 5g model already than don't need it.
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I don't know if 5G is software or hardware related. If it's software yeah there will probably be some kind of update. If it's hardware then a new phone is required.
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I swear I read an article on the s10 would be able to receive 5g SMH guess not what a let down.
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When the 5g is available can handle it on s10+?
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When the 5g is available can handle it on s10+?
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From what I was told is that the S10 is capable of 5G and has 5G capability but doesn't have the 5G modem in the phone itself so therefore we cannot get 5G unless we purchase the 5G model.
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Modems used to be interchangeable and updateable back in the Galaxy S4 days. I guess that's changed with the newer phones.
Think about it. Why would S10 5G exist if the current models were 5G capable? And I don't mean what AT&T does in the US by replacing the 4G LTE icon with 5GE, I mean actual 5G
lol eh?
What's this?
Sorry, the S10/S10+ cannot and will not be 5G capable. It doesn't have the required hardware. Which is a 5G modem and associated components.
That's why there's an S10 5G: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s10-5g
I'm not sure where you read this, but it's very much false.
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lol eh?
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Sorry, the S10/S10+ cannot and will not be 5G capable. It doesn't have the required hardware. Which is a 5G modem and associated components.
That's why there's an S10 5G: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s10-5g
I'm not sure where you read this, but it's very much false.
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I read on the internet where else would I read it apparently there are fake articles on the internet.
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By the time 5G is available on a wide scale all premium devices will have 5G capability since realistically that's at least a year out. This is why I passed on the S10 5G model. There is no possibility a software update will enable a "5G Capable" S10 as it requires a modem. The S11 will have a Qualcomm 865 SoC (7nm) separate from it's modem which is fine however word has it Qualcomm's 875 Chipset (5nm) will have the modem integrated into the SoC.
Hi everybody,
We moved to T-Mobile and got a new iPhone XI and a OnePlus 7 T Pro 5G McLaren. My wife is not happy with the quality of the audio and what to switch back to Verizon or AT&T, and I wonder if any of you have tried the OnePlus with those carriers and if the phone works with them as well as 5G
Thanks for your responses.
Happy holidays,
Guillermo
Verizon is CDMA and I dont think the oneplus from tmobile will work
I tried mine on Sprint last night but I couldn't get it working. I read that once they merge it will work on that Network so I would think it would work but maybe I'm wrong. I'm going to play with it some more.
bcombel said:
I tried mine on Sprint last night but I couldn't get it working. I read that once they merge it will work on that Network so I would think it would work but maybe I'm wrong. I'm going to play with it some more.
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You may need to go into settings and sim unlock the device first if you haven't already
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Verizon is CDMA and I dont think the oneplus from tmobile will work
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CDMA doesn't matter anymore and is being shut down. Verizon only allows new devices on its VoLTE network and the phone supports all of Verizon's bands.
But the main problem is that Verizon won't allow the device for purely arbitrary reasons if the BYOD check rejection is any indication. Same goes for Sprint.
It should work fine on AT&T minus 5G support. If you had bought the Note 10+ 5G from T-Mobile, I believe that does support AT&T's low-band 5G (assuming you have the right plan) that just launched.
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You may need to go into settings and sim unlock the device first if you haven't already
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I have done the temporary one, but not the full unlocked as I haven't paid in full the phone.
hittori said:
Hi everybody,
We moved to T-Mobile and got a new iPhone XI and a OnePlus 7 T Pro 5G McLaren. My wife is not happy with the quality of the audio and what to switch back to Verizon or AT&T, and I wonder if any of you have tried the OnePlus with those carriers and if the phone works with them as well as 5G
Thanks for your responses.
Happy holidays,
Guillermo
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So far no one has tried. :crying:
I had my T-Mobile 5G McLaren unlocked for T-Mobile.
It works with a Verizon Sim with data only.
When I try to make it a outgoing call the phone app crashes and there is no incoming and outgoing text messages but data works just fine.
The OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren takes advantage of T-Mobile 600 MHz lowband 5G; currently, no other US carrier supports 600 MHz lowband 5G. Consequently, if you unlocked the sim on the 5G McLaren, you could use with other carriers but you would currently lose access to lowband 5G with other carriers. Moreover, as far as I know, the 5G McLaren does not have an antenna for mmWave 5G, so you would not be able to utilize mmWave 5G on any carrier. In my experience, modern call quality is more dependent upon the particular phone than carrier, so maybe your spouse could try a different phone than whatever current one? Good luck!
I messed with it some more and have had some success. I already have mine sim unlocked. I'm not worried about the 5g as that is a joke. I can't get more than 2mb down and 1mb up with 5g. Yes you are reading that correctly. TMobile sucks in new Orleans. I am getting LTE with Sprint and was able to make calls. I will post back once I get it all figured out.
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The OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren takes advantage of T-Mobile 600 MHz lowband 5G; currently, no other US carrier supports lowband 5G. Consequently, if you unlocked the sim on the 5G McLaren, you could use with other carriers but you would currently lose access to lowband 5G with other carriers. Moreover, as far as I know, the 5G McLaren does not have an antenna for mmWave 5G, so you would not be able to utilize mmWave 5G on any carrier. In my experience, modern call quality is more dependent upon the particular phone than carrier, so maybe your spouse could try a different phone than whatever current one? Good luck!
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This is false. AT&T is live with n5 (850 MHz) in a dozen or two cities. It's the same dumb approach they used for HD Voice, but 5G is being lit up market by market.
https://www.att.com/5g/consumer/
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This is false. AT&T is live with n5 (850 MHz) in a dozen or two cities. It's the same dumb approach they used for HD Voice, but 5G is being lit up market by market.
https://www.att.com/5g/consumer/
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I don't think n5 is enabled in the firmware. T-Mobile's 600 MHz lowband 5G uses n71. T-Mobile planned to add n41 if the Sprint Merger goes through. So, I don't think someone would be able to use it on AT&T n5, because the n5 band is not enabled in the firmware.
Correct. n5 is only enabled on the AT&T and T-Mobile branded Note 10+ 5G. Maybe Sprint's too if it ever shows up. Even then, I'd only trust the AT&T one for obvious reasons.
If anyone ever gets around to playing around with the McLaren 5G in QXDM or QPST, it would be fascinating to see what the modem is actually capable of and whether anything can be enabled. There should be no problem with the antenna and chip supporting it.
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The OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren takes advantage of T-Mobile 600 MHz lowband 5G; currently, no other US carrier supports 600 MHz lowband 5G. Consequently, if you unlocked the sim on the 5G McLaren, you could use with other carriers but you would currently lose access to lowband 5G with other carriers. Moreover, as far as I know, the 5G McLaren does not have an antenna for mmWave 5G, so you would not be able to utilize mmWave 5G on any carrier. In my experience, modern call quality is more dependent upon the particular phone than carrier, so maybe your spouse could try a different phone than whatever current one? Good luck!
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The OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren 5G has the Snapdragon X55 chip in it. Which means it supports all current US based forms of 5G. However the chip is software locked by OP to just low band, I assume until TMobile releases mid and high band.
I have a unlocked 7t pro mclaren that i got from t mobile. I have it on at&t right now. It's working out great. But as said be for the 5g does not work on at&t right now. The one thing that i did do was update the oneplus logkit. So i could enable volte and video calling. But still no calling over WiFi with at&t.
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The OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren takes advantage of T-Mobile 600 MHz lowband 5G; currently, no other US carrier supports 600 MHz lowband 5G. Consequently, if you unlocked the sim on the 5G McLaren, you could use with other carriers but you would currently lose access to lowband 5G with other carriers. Moreover, as far as I know, the 5G McLaren does not have an antenna for mmWave 5G, so you would not be able to utilize mmWave 5G on any carrier. In my experience, modern call quality is more dependent upon the particular phone than carrier, so maybe your spouse could try a different phone than whatever current one? Good luck!
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Thanks for the explanation, I am willing to sacrifice the none 5G but I need to know it works, otherwise... I cannot do it.
BtuMars said:
I have a unlocked 7t pro mclaren that i got from t mobile. I have it on at&t right now. It's working out great. But as said be for the 5g does not work on at&t right now. The one thing that i did do was update the oneplus logkit. So i could enable volte and video calling. But still no calling over WiFi with at&t.
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Thanks for the comment, really helpful, I wish you have it tried in Verizon as well
tanman21 said:
I had my T-Mobile 5G McLaren unlocked for T-Mobile.
It works with a Verizon Sim with data only.
When I try to make it a outgoing call the phone app crashes and there is no incoming and outgoing text messages but data works just fine.
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Thanks for the update... but as you can imagine, I need the phone fully operational.... so it looks like going to Verizon is not an option for me so far.
hittori said:
Thanks for the update... but as you can imagine, I need the phone fully operational.... so it looks like going to Verizon is not an option for me so far.
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The phone can be used on Verizon fully. You need a Sim and you also need to call in to tech support and have them set your account up for CDMAless.
Hello,
Idk how much this will help you but, I’ve been an ATT subscriber for over 5 years, I live in Naples FL, and have traveled around the state and always have good service. I keep ATT because it’s easy to switch your SIM card and use the next phone on the networt, I buy a lot of unlocked phones. I am currently using the OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren edition, not the 5G version, on the network and all is well. ATT is great but, I am thinking of switching to T-Mobile once the other phones on my account are paid off, only because of T-Mobiles less expensive plans.
Looking at eBay for the OnePlus 8 Pro has led me to a few listings with the title having "iN 2020"
Is this a specific region designation? Does it differ from the USA model at all?
If anyone has any additional information, that'd be great. Thank you!
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Looking at eBay for the OnePlus 8 Pro has led me to a few listings with the title having "iN 2020"
Is this a specific region designation? Does it differ from the USA model at all?
If anyone has any additional information, that'd be great. Thank you!
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IN2020 refers to the International one, that's the one I got from OP to the US. It also means it's unlocked.
I have the IN2025 and also in US. Bought straight from OnePlus.
Poloasis said:
IN2020 refers to the International one, that's the one I got from OP to the US. It also means it's unlocked.
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Ldbrown01 said:
I have the IN2025 and also in US. Bought straight from OnePlus.
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Questions to you guys.
Does that version work with dual Sim?
Did you get the 256Gb green version?
How is it working for you guys in USA?
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I have the IN2025 and also in US. Bought straight from OnePlus.
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Ditto here. I'm not sure what IN2020 is.
Pr20 said:
Questions to you guys.
Does that version work with dual Sim?
Did you get the 256Gb green version?
How is it working for you guys in USA?
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It is the 256Gb glossy back. So far I have seen no defects. It has been working good for me. I am coming from the 7 pro and love this device!
I opted for the iN2020 from eBay also. Works flawlessly. Took the latest OTA(10.5.6) and retained root. No issues with 5G on T-mo. Glad I got it instead of waiting for stock from OnePlus.
I just received this model today and the bootloader unlock is greyed out
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bradhoschar said:
I opted for the iN2020 from eBay also. Works flawlessly. Took the latest OTA(10.5.6) and retained root. No issues with 5G on T-mo. Glad I got it instead of waiting for stock from OnePlus.
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What kinds of speeds are you getting? I am in same boat and I have "5g" but it seems like my speeds aren't all that much faster than 4g
I just received my OnePlus 8pro IN2020 no service
bradhoschar said:
I opted for the iN2020 from eBay also. Works flawlessly. Took the latest OTA(10.5.6) and retained root. No issues with 5G on T-mo. Glad I got it instead of waiting for stock from OnePlus.
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I just received my in2020 and it will not read my TMobile sim is there something I have to do for it too read how did you get yours to work
IN2020 denotes the region which in this case means it is made for the Chinese market. You may find certain bands are missing so may not work correctly on some carriers.
tmac7728 said:
I just received my in2020 and it will not read my TMobile sim is there something I have to do for it too read how did you get yours to work
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Weird, should work. I also have same model and tmo and it works for me
False alarm
kevkid said:
Weird, should work. I also have same model and tmo and it works for me
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Ok false alarm I had to do the software update first
bradhoschar said:
I opted for the iN2020 from eBay also. Works flawlessly. Took the latest OTA(10.5.6) and retained root. No issues with 5G on T-mo. Glad I got it instead of waiting for stock from OnePlus.
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That's not actually 5G I'm sure, use cell mapper and see if it says LTE+NR or just LTE, If it doesn't show +NR, you're getting a false 5G flag that is reporting a 5G capable tower but you aren't actually connecting to 5G.
See the screenshots below for comparison:
kevkid said:
Weird, should work. I also have same model and tmo and it works for me
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Same for you ^
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tmac7728 said:
Ok false alarm I had to do the software update first
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And you ^^
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That's not actually 5G I'm sure, use cell mapper and see if it says LTE+NR or just LTE, If it doesn't show +NR, you're getting a false 5G flag that is reporting a 5G capable tower but you aren't actually connecting to 5G.
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Thank you for this! So these towers can't emit a 5g signal. Do you know why?
Along with the differences, can anyone on TMobile confirm this model works with dual Sims? Wanted to get it on eBay but US versions arent active yet, so need international version as long as 5g works on dual SIM.
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That's not actually 5G I'm sure, use cell mapper and see if it says LTE+NR or just LTE, If it doesn't show +NR, you're getting a false 5G flag that is reporting a 5G capable tower but you aren't actually connecting to 5G.
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Can you send to me modem log when phone shows LTE+NR same time and NR Connected?
OnePlus 8 Pro IN2020 China model support only n41 5G band used in USA. I try list all supported combos used in TMUS: https://cacombos.com/device?model=IN2020&combolist=america_tmus_plmns . This model example doesn't support widely used n71 low band 5G.
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Thank you for this! So these towers can't emit a 5g signal. Do you know why?
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T-Mobile is using the upper later indicator (a cell site that supports NR ENDC capability) to show the 5G signal icon in your status bar, not actual NR connectivity. So when you see the 5G indicator, it just means you're connected to a site and band that supports aggregating LTE+NR (ENDC), not that you're necessarily connected to NR.
So even if your phone does not support any T-Mobile 5G NR bands, it will still show 5G in the status bar if the cell site you're connected to supports aggregating LTE and NR together. T-Mobile even has cell sites broadcasting the upper later indicator with no 5G NR signal nearby, so even phones with T-Mobile NR bands will show the 5G icon a lot of the time without an actual NR signal.
The IN2020 does not support T-Mobile N71 NR.
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Can you send to me modem log when phone shows LTE+NR same time and NR Connected?
OnePlus 8 Pro IN2020 China model support only n41 5G band used in USA. I try list all supported combos used in TMUS: https://cacombos.com/device?model=IN2020&combolist=america_tmus_plmns . This model example doesn't support widely used n71 low band 5G.
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Those screenshots were taken by me on an HD1925, not the IN2020.
IN2020 this is the network straight from oneplus .cn
Network and connectivity
LTE
4×4 MIMO, support high-order modulation, up to downlink Cat18 / uplink Cat13 (1.2Gbps / 150Mbps), requires operator network support
Frequency band
GSM：GSM850、GSM900、GSM1800、GSM1900
WCDMA：B1、B2、B4、B5、B8、B9、B19
CDMA: BC0
LTE-FDD：B1、2、3、4、5、7、8、12、17、18、19、20、26
LTE-TDD ： B34、38、39、40、41
5G ： n1 n3 n41 n78 n79
MIMO ： LTE ： B1、3、41 ； NR ： n1 、 n3 、 n41 、 n78 、 n79
Note: The actual network and frequency band usage depends on the local operator's network deployment, n1, n3 must be supported by software upgrade after the operator releases
WLAN
2×2 MIMO dual antenna, support 2.4G / 5G, support Wi-Fi 6, support WiFi 802.11 a / b / g / n / ac / ax
Bluetooth
Bluetooth 5.1，支持 aptX & aptX HD & LDAC & AAC & SBC
NFC
stand by
GPS
GPS (Dual-band L1 + L5), GLONASS, Galileo (Dual-band E1 + E5a), Beidou Navigation, A-GPS