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s7 edge tmobile or international version?

Hi Guys,
Im in a little dilemma, I purchased the S7 G935T and it is coming in tomorrow. So I've been reading a lot about the phone and the known stuff about the bootloader and what not. So should I just return it(Costing $800+) and get the international version (G935F costing $700 on ebay)? I know Samsung Pay will not work and I really don't care about that that much. I mean it's something cool but not a die for feature. I really want the video calling feature that tmobile offer on these higher smartphones though. Are there any other features that the tmobile version might have over the international version? I tried to look but couldn't find much. If I get the international version, that means I can root the phone install custom roms and have less to no bloatwares. Let me know what are the Pros/Cons of getting the international version. Thanks

I struggled with this too, but ultimately it came down to needing Band 12 compatibility. Won't get that with international variant.
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YankInDaSouth said:
I struggled with this too, but ultimately it came down to needing Band 12 compatibility. Won't get that with international variant.
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Can you tell me more about the 12 band compatibility? Is it just so that VoLTE can work? What other functionalities does this support? Also how is your s7 heat problem? I've been reading a lot about the overheating problem with the SD820

rpham said:
Can you tell me more about the 12 band compatibility? Is it just so that VoLTE can work? What other functionalities does this support? Also how is your s7 heat problem? I've been reading a lot about the overheating problem with the SD820
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B12 is basically a lower frequency signal so it penetrates buildings better. It also allows you to have LTE available while on a call.
Can't comment on the heat as I just my S7E this afternoon. It did get warm during initial setup, but every phone does ...
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YankInDaSouth said:
B12 is basically a lower frequency signal so it penetrates buildings better. It also allows you to have LTE available while on a call.
Can't comment on the heat as I just my S7E this afternoon. It did get warm during initial setup, but every phone does ...
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I actually just saw this on for the international version? Is this true?
"UPDATE: 2016/03/31 5:07PM PDT
The previous deal is sold out, but a new one popped up at the same price from another seller (232tech).
In the event your Galaxy S7 pre-order has been delayed, you can just cancel that sucker. As with the S7 Edge, the regular Galaxy S7 has appeared on eBay in its unlocked form. For $599.99, you can get the SM-G930F with support for most GSM/LTE networks. That's about $100 cheaper than the full price GS7 on US carriers.
Importantly, this is an international phone. That means it has an Exynos 8 SoC instead of the Snapdragon 820 in US models. The LTE bands should be great, though. It even has band 12 for T-Mobile. 3G is missing Tmo's band 4, but you'll be fine on HSPA+ data in areas where T-Mobile runs 1900MHz."

I might get the G935F since this thread says it has 12 band
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/detailed-sm-g935-s7-info-t3326180

Interesting ... I wonder if Band 12 will actually work though. I had the Moto X Pure Edition that had to wait for T-mobile to certify (or something) the device before B12 would work. Seeing how that one would likely have different model numbers than those T-mobile sells, band 12 may not work out of the box.
I am no expert by any means, so I could be wrong ...
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Man so little information, I CAN'T DECIDE!!!!! lol. Need more digging because if I get the ebay one then I won't open the tmobile that will be arriving tomorrow since they say the refund should be faster if it's unopened, or else it takes 2 business cycle = 60days for the refund.

I'm on the fence as well. I know I can add VoLTE with my own modifications. I'd also like to port the video calling in dialer. WiFi calling would be nice also but isn't a deal breaker for me. Band 12 is on all variants I believe but is just disabled. Since the international is modifiable, I'd assume there is a way to enable it.
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Rydah805 said:
I'm on the fence as well. I know I can add VoLTE with my own modifications. I'd also like to port the video calling in dialer. WiFi calling would be nice also but isn't a deal breaker for me. Band 12 is on all variants I believe but is just disabled. Since the international is modifiable, I'd assume there is a way to enable it.
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Read from c#23 onward, it seems to work but not VoLTE, wifi calling, and samsung pay. Im still digging to see if it's worth it to get the international version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s7/help/using-sm-g930f-t-mobile-t3335753/page3

There are at least 2 variants of band 12, 3 if I'm not mistaken. Does t TMob use 12b? And does t the int'l version use band 12a and 12c?

There is a possible alternative to 935F.
That is the Chinese released 9350, which is a snapdragon like the TMo, and it might be possible to flash TMo firmware on it after unlocking the bootloader (don't know if this would work or if that would re-lock the bootloader ). Hoping someone with the appropriate skill set would comment on this or even give it a try.
Believe these are available on eBay also.

Dang, from these comments, maybe I should keep the tmobile version?

rpham said:
Dang, from these comments, maybe I should keep the tmobile version?
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That's what I would recommend. I have been rooting/tinkering for years and although I've had this phone a very short time, aside from ad blocking I honestly see no need to root this phone.
Of course that's subject to change in a matter of weeks, days or months LOL
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I actually just returned my tmobile one. Im looking to get the s7 canadian model. Heard it is the same bands as the one from Tmobile or has all the bands that works with tmobile. I'll let you guys know in a couple of weeks.

rpham said:
I actually just returned my tmobile one. Im looking to get the s7 canadian model. Heard it is the same bands as the one from Tmobile or has all the bands that works with tmobile. I'll let you guys know in a couple of weeks.
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Just because it has band 12 out of the box, I'm not so sure it means that it'll be supported by T-Mobile. Again, I use the Moto X Pure Edition as an example, Motorola said that the device would support band 12, but it wasn't until the device went through T-Mobile's certication process and an OTA update that we saw Band 12 on the X. (And even still it's not working right - if VoLTE is enabled phones calls are choppy)
Like I said earlier, I am by no means an expert and can very likely be wrong (Heck I actually hope I'm wrong!)
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YankInDaSouth said:
Just because it has band 12 out of the box, I'm not so sure it means that it'll be supported by T-Mobile. Again, I use the Moto X Pure Edition as an example, Motorola said that the device would support band 12, but it wasn't until the device went through T-Mobile's certication process and an OTA update that we saw Band 12 on the X. (And even still it's not working right - if VoLTE is enabled phones calls are choppy)
Like I said earlier, I am by no means an expert and can very likely be wrong (Heck I actually hope I'm wrong!)
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So from all the digging/comments here all I see is that VoLTE, Wifi Calling, and Samsung pay will not work on the S7 Edge G935F (International Version) and G935W8 (Canadian Version, a little more compatible with US Tmobile). I think this is fine with me because I am using the 5S right now and don't ever have a need for those. But we will see, I am still digging to see if all that are worth it over the Exynos. Which again, I don't have right now so I don't see why just get the Exynos

So just an update, I purchased a S7 Edge g935f. I am using it on Tmobile and also just rooted it. Anyone needs to know anything just give it a shout.

Keep us posted as to the coverage your getting... Also, can you download LTE Discovery and see if you ever get Band 12.
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rpham said:
So just an update, I purchased a S7 Edge g935f. I am using it on Tmobile and also just rooted it. Anyone needs to know anything just give it a shout.
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Thought you were getting the Canadian version ?

the ROMs and development for the S10 plus and S10 5g models

I know this might be a little too early to ask. I also admit I am not up-to-date with all the news. But if there's anyone that can answer this, I would appreciate it.
Can anybody say if the ROM development for the normal S10 plus will also cover and work with the S10 5g model.
I'd like to get the 5g model. But if there's no development for it, it would be worthless.
That being said the question is valid if there would be a 5g model with Exynos chip.
But if the 5g model would also be available with Exynos chip and the ROMs for the S10 plus would work on it and thus the development for it would be the same, I would wait for the S10 plus 5g variant.
Could anybody share what're the news saying, please.

No one knows...
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Hard to say at this point in time... I do hope they get some good development.

Does Europe have 5g? That would answer your question if they don't. If they don't it'll probably only be released in markets with 5G

Thank you very much

S10 5g EXYNOS ?

Anyone bought the 5G version of s10 and use it on t mobile. i need to know if you'd get 5G instead of 4G

TheUndertaker21 said:
Anyone bought the 5G version of s10 and use it on t mobile. i need to know if you'd get 5G instead of 4G
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Lol. Well, yeah...you get 5G on it when TMobile turns on their 5G. Unless you are already in a test area.

Convert to International device

I have seen some discussion on converting the Pro McLaren to an international version, as it is supposed to allow updates to work after the device is rooted. Could some point at the procedure to do so, and is there any downside ?

you cannot do that atm because the interntional version does not support 5G so you could be losing ur 5G radio

Betrayy said:
you cannot do that atm because the interntional version does not support 5G so you could be losing ur 5G radio
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Is that even possible? I'd be fine with losing 5g for the moment if I could convert it. I've not been able to find anyone even getting that far.

Yaotl said:
Is that even possible? I'd be fine with losing 5g for the moment if I could convert it. I've not been able to find anyone even getting that far.
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Besides getting updates, what are the differences/benefits of the international version?
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gaww said:
Besides getting updates, what are the differences/benefits of the international version?
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to have Dual SIM capability, right now, t-mobile has restricted(software tm modified version) the mclaren hd1925 5G version only for one sim

I have a duel sim S9+, and never used it, so wouldn't want to mess with the phone for just that, but maybe to get updates.
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gaww said:
Besides getting updates, what are the differences/benefits of the international version?
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You would get updates directly from OnePlus instead of T-Mobile and you can flash ROMs as well as joining the open beta programs from OP. And ofc, dual sim support.

Betrayy said:
You would get updates directly from OnePlus instead of T-Mobile and you can flash ROMs as well as joining the open beta programs from OP. And ofc, dual sim support.
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Sounds interesting but is there an international for 7 pro 5G ??
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gaww said:
Sounds interesting but is there an international for 7 pro 5G
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There is not. Honestly, this used to be a big factor for me buying OnePlus phones. These days, buying a 5G model makes more sense than having dual SIM. Custom roms may also fill in the void at some point, but this is obviously something we have to wait for. The good news: unlike the Sprint OnePlus 7 pro 5G, we can unlock the bootloader on this device and cut a lot of time in the process of making custom roms for our device.

champ784 said:
There is not. Honestly, this used to be a big factor for me buying OnePlus phones. These days, buying a 5G model makes more sense than having dual SIM. Custom roms may also fill in the void at some point, but this is obviously something we have to wait for. The good news: unlike the Sprint OnePlus 7 pro 5G, we can unlock the bootloader on this device and cut a lot of time in the process of making custom roms for our device.
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The spring oneplus 7 pro 5g can be unlocked if you convert to the international 5g OnePlus 7 pro

luigi90210 said:
The spring oneplus 7 pro 5g can be unlocked if you convert to the international 5g OnePlus 7 pro
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Well now, yes. But it took a long time to get there and wasn't mandated by Sprint nor OnePlus from what I gather.

Yaotl said:
Is that even possible? I'd be fine with losing 5g for the moment if I could convert it. I've not been able to find anyone even getting that far.
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Did you convert your phone to international version? I am also fine losing 5G capability

Modify Carrier Policy to get 5G work

Hello, I have a SM-N9860 with TGY CSC. I was able to get carrier_policy files with QPST. Can anyone help me modify them so that 5G is enabled in any country that use N78 Band (in my case Switzerland). You'll find both files attached.
Or : if someone with a BRI SM-N9860 could share his Policyman folder that would be great.

Wow! Following this.
Is this the file that controls the ability to connect to 5G? No need for root?

That would be nice, following.
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That's amazing man.
I was wondering why we couldn't get 5g and got it on one plus 8 pro

Well it looks like that file already has band 78 enabled for sa and nsa 5g. So there might be an imei restriction you are running into.

dottat said:
Well it looks like that file already has band 78 enabled for sa and nsa 5g. So there might be an imei restriction you are running into.
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And in your opinion this imei restriction is added by Samsung or the carriers in each country? Or an agreement of between both?
Is it possible to ask a carrier to allow an imei to connect to their 5g network?
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theholyguy said:
And in your opinion this imei restriction is added by Samsung or the carriers in each country? Or an agreement of between both?
Is it possible to ask a carrier to allow an imei to connect to their 5g network?
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Carriers. They need to whitelist your imei for 5g roaming if you are roaming.

dottat said:
Carriers. They need to whitelist your imei for 5g roaming if you are roaming.
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I will buy snapdragon version but I read here in several topics is that in exynos regions even in your own country with your carrier sim you still not connecting to 5g with snapdragon note 20..
You think that carriers only have whitelisted exynos imei for they 5g network?
Strange is that with one plus it connects.
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tribalfs said:
Wow! Following this.
Is this the file that controls the ability to connect to 5G? No need for root?
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No need for root. I was able to get all the files from a S20 Ultra Snapdragon BRI (which connects to 5G here in Switzerland) and I replaced those of my Note 20 Ultra with them. Unfortunately I didn't change anything... I keep searching but I'm afraid that only flashing CSC could solve the issue...

evenshop said:
No need for root. I was able to get all the files from a S20 Ultra Snapdragon BRI (which connects to 5G here in Switzerland) and I replaced those of my Note 20 Ultra with them. Unfortunately I didn't change anything... I keep searching but I'm afraid that only flashing CSC could solve the issue...
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Why s20 connects , and note 20 not? Is Samsung really scamming even more the costumers? One Plus is snapdragon and connects so is not SoC problem for sure.
That can confirm it is a scam, from Samsung, carriers or both.
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dottat said:
Carriers. They need to whitelist your imei for 5g roaming if you are roaming.
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And presumably for 5G access if you are not roaming (i.e., if we import an international phone)? Samsung has an issue with servicing international phones (they won't), but the carriers shouldn't have any issue providing service - that right?

jtOttawa said:
And presumably for 5G access if you are not roaming (i.e., if we import an international phone)? Samsung has an issue with servicing international phones (they won't), but the carriers shouldn't have any issue providing service - that right?
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Samsung keeps bullshi%*ing more and more every new generation of smartphones.
Now you can even easily change CSC.
I'm really considering lowering my overall standard and change to xiaomi or one Plus.
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theholyguy said:
Samsung keeps bullshi%*ing more and more every new generation of smartphones.
Now you can even easily change CSC.
I'm really considering lowering my overall standard and change to xiaomi or one Plus.
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I'm starting to feel the same way, and I've used Samsung phones ever since the original Galaxy S - even returned an iPhone 4 at the time to switch. What irritates me is how they have started taking their customers for granted, even with their top-tier phones - downgrading the memory capacity, eliminating the headphones (and not even offering a complementary set here in Canada). Samsung originally appealed to me as the underdog against Apple, who would take risks and truly innovate to attract customers - that role now seems to belong to others. And quite frankly, from what I've seen of the OnePlus Pro 8, it wouldn't be much of a lowering of standards to switch...

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I'm starting to feel the same way, and I've used Samsung phones ever since the original Galaxy S - even returned an iPhone 4 at the time to switch. What irritates me is how they have started taking their customers for granted, even with their top-tier phones - downgrading the memory capacity, eliminating the headphones (and not even offering a complementary set here in Canada). Samsung originally appealed to me as the underdog against Apple, who would take risks and truly innovate to attract customers - that role now seems to belong to others. And quite frankly, from what I've seen of the OnePlus Pro 8, it wouldn't be much of a lowering of standards to switch...
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of course is lowering a bit the standards... you get worst gorilla glass, a slightly worst amoled and the photos still not at the same level, but is not that much viewing the price difference and all the bull**** samsung is doing...
the only thing that keeps me waiting and see is the s-pen and DEX but dont gonna wait to much time loool

theholyguy said:
of course is lowering a bit the standards... you get worst gorilla glass, a slightly worst amoled and the photos still not at the same level, but is not that much viewing the price difference and all the bull**** samsung is doing...
the only thing that keeps me waiting and see is the s-pen and DEX but dont gonna wait to much time loool
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This information is incorrect. Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra takes as good pictures if not better and so does Oppo Find X2 Pro. My only reason to go for Samsung is US bands and mmWave bands. If I was elsewhere like some places in Europe or India would have definitely gotten a Find X2 Pro. (Dont trust Xiaomi much with ads etc). Look at that beauty Find X2 Pro with Vegan Leather.

warriorvibhu said:
This information is incorrect. Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra takes as good pictures if not better and so does Oppo Find X2 Pro. My only reason to go for Samsung is US bands and mmWave bands. If I was elsewhere like some places in Europe or India would have definitely gotten a Find X2 Pro. (Dont trust Xiaomi much with ads etc). Look at that beauty Find X2 Pro with Vegan Leather.
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i will check that for sure, if no solution coming in the next 3 weeks, is coming mi 10T pro 5g and maybe one plus 8t pro

Let's just hope for Samkey to support change CSC of GN20 Ultra 5G Snapdragon the soonest.

tribalfs said:
Let's just hope for Samkey to support change CSC of GN20 Ultra 5G Snapdragon the soonest.
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it would be nicier if samsung stops scumming their costumers, and sell flagships with only one SoC, snapdragon, and with all carriers bands free of use in every CSC. but maybe thats asking to much loool

Hi!
I successfully changed CSC from TGY to BRI and vice versa on my SM-N9860/DS. Please check this thread.

tribalfs said:
Wow! Following this.
Is this the file that controls the ability to connect to 5G? No need for root?
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Somebody knows what exactly "this" means. Are you referring to carrier_policy.xml file?