Hi Guys,
Im in a little dilemma, I purchased the S7 G935T and it is coming in tomorrow. So I've been reading a lot about the phone and the known stuff about the bootloader and what not. So should I just return it(Costing $800+) and get the international version (G935F costing $700 on ebay)? I know Samsung Pay will not work and I really don't care about that that much. I mean it's something cool but not a die for feature. I really want the video calling feature that tmobile offer on these higher smartphones though. Are there any other features that the tmobile version might have over the international version? I tried to look but couldn't find much. If I get the international version, that means I can root the phone install custom roms and have less to no bloatwares. Let me know what are the Pros/Cons of getting the international version. Thanks
I struggled with this too, but ultimately it came down to needing Band 12 compatibility. Won't get that with international variant.
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YankInDaSouth said:
I struggled with this too, but ultimately it came down to needing Band 12 compatibility. Won't get that with international variant.
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Can you tell me more about the 12 band compatibility? Is it just so that VoLTE can work? What other functionalities does this support? Also how is your s7 heat problem? I've been reading a lot about the overheating problem with the SD820
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Can you tell me more about the 12 band compatibility? Is it just so that VoLTE can work? What other functionalities does this support? Also how is your s7 heat problem? I've been reading a lot about the overheating problem with the SD820
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B12 is basically a lower frequency signal so it penetrates buildings better. It also allows you to have LTE available while on a call.
Can't comment on the heat as I just my S7E this afternoon. It did get warm during initial setup, but every phone does ...
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YankInDaSouth said:
B12 is basically a lower frequency signal so it penetrates buildings better. It also allows you to have LTE available while on a call.
Can't comment on the heat as I just my S7E this afternoon. It did get warm during initial setup, but every phone does ...
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I actually just saw this on for the international version? Is this true?
"UPDATE: 2016/03/31 5:07PM PDT
The previous deal is sold out, but a new one popped up at the same price from another seller (232tech).
In the event your Galaxy S7 pre-order has been delayed, you can just cancel that sucker. As with the S7 Edge, the regular Galaxy S7 has appeared on eBay in its unlocked form. For $599.99, you can get the SM-G930F with support for most GSM/LTE networks. That's about $100 cheaper than the full price GS7 on US carriers.
Importantly, this is an international phone. That means it has an Exynos 8 SoC instead of the Snapdragon 820 in US models. The LTE bands should be great, though. It even has band 12 for T-Mobile. 3G is missing Tmo's band 4, but you'll be fine on HSPA+ data in areas where T-Mobile runs 1900MHz."
I might get the G935F since this thread says it has 12 band
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/detailed-sm-g935-s7-info-t3326180
Interesting ... I wonder if Band 12 will actually work though. I had the Moto X Pure Edition that had to wait for T-mobile to certify (or something) the device before B12 would work. Seeing how that one would likely have different model numbers than those T-mobile sells, band 12 may not work out of the box.
I am no expert by any means, so I could be wrong ...
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Man so little information, I CAN'T DECIDE!!!!! lol. Need more digging because if I get the ebay one then I won't open the tmobile that will be arriving tomorrow since they say the refund should be faster if it's unopened, or else it takes 2 business cycle = 60days for the refund.
I'm on the fence as well. I know I can add VoLTE with my own modifications. I'd also like to port the video calling in dialer. WiFi calling would be nice also but isn't a deal breaker for me. Band 12 is on all variants I believe but is just disabled. Since the international is modifiable, I'd assume there is a way to enable it.
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I'm on the fence as well. I know I can add VoLTE with my own modifications. I'd also like to port the video calling in dialer. WiFi calling would be nice also but isn't a deal breaker for me. Band 12 is on all variants I believe but is just disabled. Since the international is modifiable, I'd assume there is a way to enable it.
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Read from c#23 onward, it seems to work but not VoLTE, wifi calling, and samsung pay. Im still digging to see if it's worth it to get the international version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s7/help/using-sm-g930f-t-mobile-t3335753/page3
There are at least 2 variants of band 12, 3 if I'm not mistaken. Does t TMob use 12b? And does t the int'l version use band 12a and 12c?
There is a possible alternative to 935F.
That is the Chinese released 9350, which is a snapdragon like the TMo, and it might be possible to flash TMo firmware on it after unlocking the bootloader (don't know if this would work or if that would re-lock the bootloader ). Hoping someone with the appropriate skill set would comment on this or even give it a try.
Believe these are available on eBay also.
Dang, from these comments, maybe I should keep the tmobile version?
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Dang, from these comments, maybe I should keep the tmobile version?
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That's what I would recommend. I have been rooting/tinkering for years and although I've had this phone a very short time, aside from ad blocking I honestly see no need to root this phone.
Of course that's subject to change in a matter of weeks, days or months LOL
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I actually just returned my tmobile one. Im looking to get the s7 canadian model. Heard it is the same bands as the one from Tmobile or has all the bands that works with tmobile. I'll let you guys know in a couple of weeks.
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I actually just returned my tmobile one. Im looking to get the s7 canadian model. Heard it is the same bands as the one from Tmobile or has all the bands that works with tmobile. I'll let you guys know in a couple of weeks.
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Just because it has band 12 out of the box, I'm not so sure it means that it'll be supported by T-Mobile. Again, I use the Moto X Pure Edition as an example, Motorola said that the device would support band 12, but it wasn't until the device went through T-Mobile's certication process and an OTA update that we saw Band 12 on the X. (And even still it's not working right - if VoLTE is enabled phones calls are choppy)
Like I said earlier, I am by no means an expert and can very likely be wrong (Heck I actually hope I'm wrong!)
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Just because it has band 12 out of the box, I'm not so sure it means that it'll be supported by T-Mobile. Again, I use the Moto X Pure Edition as an example, Motorola said that the device would support band 12, but it wasn't until the device went through T-Mobile's certication process and an OTA update that we saw Band 12 on the X. (And even still it's not working right - if VoLTE is enabled phones calls are choppy)
Like I said earlier, I am by no means an expert and can very likely be wrong (Heck I actually hope I'm wrong!)
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So from all the digging/comments here all I see is that VoLTE, Wifi Calling, and Samsung pay will not work on the S7 Edge G935F (International Version) and G935W8 (Canadian Version, a little more compatible with US Tmobile). I think this is fine with me because I am using the 5S right now and don't ever have a need for those. But we will see, I am still digging to see if all that are worth it over the Exynos. Which again, I don't have right now so I don't see why just get the Exynos
So just an update, I purchased a S7 Edge g935f. I am using it on Tmobile and also just rooted it. Anyone needs to know anything just give it a shout.
Keep us posted as to the coverage your getting... Also, can you download LTE Discovery and see if you ever get Band 12.
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So just an update, I purchased a S7 Edge g935f. I am using it on Tmobile and also just rooted it. Anyone needs to know anything just give it a shout.
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Thought you were getting the Canadian version ?
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This is a glorious day!!!!
Ok, so I was browsing Youtube for some reviews of the Ascend Mate 7 and I came across this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNVV20U5qtU (website here: http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/09/huawei-ascend-mate-7-first-impressions.html)
The reviewer (Alexander Maxham) said that he had a Chinese version that was sent to him by Huawei. I asked in the comments whether he had tried any North American SIM cards, and these are the responses I got:
Me:
Thanks for the video. Quick question. I assume you're in North America somewhere, have you tested the Chinese version that you have on any of the North American Networks? There seems to be some confusion about whether there will be a US-specific version of the device or if the Chinese version will give HSPA+ or LTE in the US and Canada.
Alex:
Right now, I have a AT&T sim in there, and it's only HSPA+. But it should work completely on T-Mobile's LTE network. I don't have their SIM right now but should have one in a few days.
Me:
Okay great. If you could give us update when you get it and try it, i'm sure many people would appreciate it. This phone looks great btw. It's almost certainly going to be my next phone (coming from Note 3). I'll subscribe so I can see your full review when it's posted.
Alex:
It fully works on T-Mobile. About the same speeds as my T-Mobile branded LG G3 is getting. Kind of weird usually foreign phones work completely on AT&T and only get EDGE and sometimes HSPA+ on T-Mobile. But it's full on LTE this time around, which is great.
I see no reason to doubt him. And this makes me very happy. Full LTE on T-Mobile!
Wooohoooooo!!!!!!!
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This is a glorious day!!!!
Ok, so I was browsing Youtube for some reviews of the Ascend Mate 7 and I came across this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNVV20U5qtU (website here: http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/09/huawei-ascend-mate-7-first-impressions.html)
The reviewer (Alexander Maxham) said that he had a Chinese version that was sent to him by Huawei. I asked in the comments whether he had tried any North American SIM cards, and these are the responses I got:
Me:
Thanks for the video. Quick question. I assume you're in North America somewhere, have you tested the Chinese version that you have on any of the North American Networks? There seems to be some confusion about whether there will be a US-specific version of the device or if the Chinese version will give HSPA+ or LTE in the US and Canada.
Alex:
Right now, I have a AT&T sim in there, and it's only HSPA+. But it should work completely on T-Mobile's LTE network. I don't have their SIM right now but should have one in a few days.
Me:
Okay great. If you could give us update when you get it and try it, i'm sure many people would appreciate it. This phone looks great btw. It's almost certainly going to be my next phone (coming from Note 3). I'll subscribe so I can see your full review when it's posted.
Alex:
It fully works on T-Mobile. About the same speeds as my T-Mobile branded LG G3 is getting. Kind of weird usually foreign phones work completely on AT&T and only get EDGE and sometimes HSPA+ on T-Mobile. But it's full on LTE this time around, which is great.
I see no reason to doubt him. And this makes me very happy. Full LTE on T-Mobile!
Wooohoooooo!!!!!!!
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thanks for the update, does he have any speed tests to show that his speeds are the same as on his G3?
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thanks for the update, does he have any speed tests to show that his speeds are the same as on his G3?
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He hasn't posted his full review yet, only the unboxing. I'm sure he'll discuss the speeds he's getting when he does his full review.
http://youtu.be/vnCR3G0b8oI?t=41m5s
Starting at 41:05 he talks about using it with att and T-Mobile. T-Mobile has LTE. Att dosent
t-Mobile yes?
10pmStalker said:
http://youtu.be/vnCR3G0b8oI?t=41m5s
Starting at 41:05 he talks about using it with att and T-Mobile. T-Mobile has LTE. Att dosent
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Sorry, didn't look at the video, when you say that he talks about using it with at&t and t-mobile, are you saying he says LTE works on T-Mobile?
yes, I will go and look at the video, just can't do that at work.
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Sorry, didn't look at the video, when you say that he talks about using it with at&t and t-mobile, are you saying he says LTE works on T-Mobile?
yes, I will go and look at the video, just can't do that at work.
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Yes thats right. He got LTE on T-mobile. He said it was way better speeds than he got with his G3
I find this incredibly ridiculous that news sources, websites, and even Huawei themselves doesn't know what networks the Mate 7 works on. I'll wait for 2 or 3 more people to confirm this works on T-Mobile before buying it. I'd want the 32GB/3GB RAM version, will that work with TMo LTE?
Good news if it works with T Mobile
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I find this incredibly ridiculous that news sources, websites, and even Huawei themselves doesn't know what networks the Mate 7 works on. I'll wait for 2 or 3 more people to confirm this works on T-Mobile before buying it. I'd want the 32GB/3GB RAM version, will that work with TMo LTE?
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I will be going to Taipei and Thailand in November so maybe I can buy the Mate 7 there. My big worry is whether there would be various models or variations in hardware configurations. I still find it strange that it seems hard to determine if a phone works with a specific carrier until it gets used on that carrier. If the phone says it works on Bands 2 and 4 should it not definitely work on T Mobile's LTE network? I sometimes wonder if the cell phone companies purposely confuse the issue so you will not buy a different phone. I am not an iphone guy but I believe I read that the Sprint and US Cellular Iphones (and maybe Verizon?)
support virtually every cell phone band in the world, if true, that is what I would like to see in a phone. You never know when you might make a wrong turn and end up in Chad or Outer Mongolia!
Bill
Not sure what bands its connecting on... as Tmobile in USA looks like it has 700, 1700 and 1900... but none of those are the reported 1,3,7 LTE FDD bands that the the mate7 is supposed to have.... maybe it also has band 2?
EDIT: If this is true, then it all makes sense how the reviewer was getting full speeds on tmobile. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55468358&postcount=1 + http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55500623&postcount=3IF those bands are available while roaming, then it makes sense as band 2 would enable it. Also band 4.
http://www.zdnet.com/huawei-ascend-...inum-design-and-solid-performance-7000034132/
Further confirmation that the device gets LTE on T-mobile.
So according to this, it works on at LTE too?
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So according to this, it works on at LTE too?
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Yes. From the article:
" This version of the Ascend Mate 7 supports LTE and HSPA+ on T-Mobile and AT&T so I am enjoying it on T-Mobile's LTE network."
He didn't list a specific version, but I'm sure he would have mentioned if it were a US specific version as opposed to the normal Chinese version. So far all of the reviews that I have seen where Huawei has sent out a device have been the Chinese version.
Wonder which Chinese version it is since I want to pick one up next month when I travel. Any info is greatly appreciated.
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I don't know personally. Mayne you should go to the article and ask in the comments. They might be kind enough to let you know the specific model number.
I went ahead and asked which version he had working on t-mobile lte in the comments. He said...... "It shows model number MT7-L09. This one has 2GB of RAM and 16GB of internal storage"
He also mentioned with his pre paid ATT sim he was only getting HSPA+.
Interesting. It could be the APN with his att prepaid Sim. But at least it works for T-Mobile for sure.
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MT7-TL10 the 3 gig gold model appears to support identical bands as the 2 gig model above.
It appears aliexpress has updated the description online to include bands 2 and 4 now
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I went ahead and asked which version he had working on t-mobile lte in the comments. He said...... "It shows model number MT7-L09. This one has 2GB of RAM and 16GB of internal storage"
He also mentioned with his pre paid ATT sim he was only getting HSPA+.
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This confirms what I posted in the other thread from the Youtube reviewer (Alex from AndroidHeadlines) who stated that he had gotten HSPA+ on AT&T, but LTE on T-Mobile.
When I Googled the model number (MT7-L09) it brought me to this page (http://consumer.huawei.com/en/mobile-phones/support/manuals/ascend-mate7.htm) which has a US/English support manual for the phone and specs that list bands 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/20/28.
MT7-L09 doesn't appear to be on sale anywhere online? I would rather the 3 gig model anyway. Might just pony up and try it. Shows the band's I need supported now. Coming from the note 3 this is exactly what I hoped the note 4 to be.
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MT7-L09 doesn't appear to be on sale anywhere online? I would rather the 3 gig model anyway. Might just pony up and try it. Shows the band's I need supported now. Coming from the note 3 this is exactly what I hoped the note 4 to be.
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Yeah me too. I am just worried about ordering from Aliexpress and having it take a month to get to me. They are notorious for taking forever to ship to the US.
I really wish Huawei would get their stuff together and get this device in people's hands. Just put it on your website and let people pre-order it at least.
Right now (just started looking into this) this seems like a no-brainer. Performance is much better and it's rooted!!!! I know you lose wifi calling in theory (although mine hasn't worked since I purchased it despite hours of troubleshooting and tweaking (sucks bc no coverage at home (rural)), but that can potentially be addressed by a custom rom? Thoughts?
I did the switch. Battery life is better. Speed difference is unnoticeable. Signal/Calling quality is fine. I would most likely switch back if root was available for the t-mobile model (but wouldn't if advanced calling was available for international).
Getting wifi calling + VOLTE + video calling is no small task if that matters to you (the S6's wifi calling was never ported to international models even though they shared the same chipset). It would take porting a qualcomm written csc to a exynos chipset and either porting t-mobile's custom ims implimentation or making the standard ims implimentation work with t-mobile. That being said, it has been done. The Galaxy S5 saw advanced calling from the S6 ported back, HTC's flagships have had wifi calling ported.
I had an international Note5 on T-Mobile's network. I hated not having WiFi calling and advanced messaging features and such. I was able to flash a ROM that included some of the lost features luckily, but that would not be the case here since the chipsets are different (at least not possible now). Additionally, for some reason the signal was always worse than my girlfriend's Note5 even when side-by-side. Consistently worse... I wouldn't deal with the hassle again.
hi, I switched too and I'm glad I did, battery is definitely better and I didn't notice performance differences (nor reception). I believe wifi calling hasn't been/can't be ported but some roms support VOLTE. Just be advised that samsung doesn't honor the warranty of international variants in the US hence insurance companies such as Upsie won't insure your device.
How do you switch?
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You have no warranty though, and Samsung Pay can be tricky to get working.
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Just got an international variant yesterday. Loving it but been struggling to change my CSC to one that supports Samsung Pay. I know the LYS CSC supports it and I've flashed it in Odin which reported success and did fine but upon using my device it didn't change my CSC. So confused as to why...
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Buy a 935F from ebay/swappa. Pay off your 935t, sell it on swappa/ebay.
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How do you switch?
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This is the first phone I've owned that I really haven't felt the need to root. I used to want to root to disable bloatware and to change the theme of the system which I can do on the S7 edge without root. Only thing I do miss is the ad blocking with root but that's a small annoyance that I can live it. Also with the T-Mobile version you get all the necessary bands for extended range LTE which is amazing here in the LA area. Everywhere I go I have solid LTE whether it's indoors or oudoors. I also just used Samsung pay yesterday for the first time at Sprouts grocery store and it worked so easily on the first try! This pay system is flawless. The old lady behind me had a surprised look on her face when I payed that way. Got a free $20 gift card from Samsung for using it for the first time. Just my personal opinion on why the carrier branded T-Mobile version is better.
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The international variant supports all the LTE bands supported by the tmobile one (and more) see http://www.phonemore.com/compare/ph...-samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-sm-g935f-64gb/3305854
And the G935F connects fine to band 12
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This is the first phone I've owned that I really haven't felt the need to root. I used to want to root to disable bloatware and to change the theme of the system which I can do on the S7 edge without root. Only thing I do miss is the ad blocking with root but that's a small annoyance that I can live it. Also with the T-Mobile version you get all the necessary bands for extended range LTE which is amazing here in the LA area. Everywhere I go I have solid LTE whether it's indoors or oudoors. I also just used Samsung pay yesterday for the first time at Sprouts grocery store and it worked so easily on the first try! This pay system is flawless. The old lady behind me had a surprised look on her face when I payed that way. Got a free $20 gift card from Samsung for using it for the first time. Just my personal opinion on why the carrier branded T-Mobile version is better.
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This is my SM-935T Model phone two sim cards active okay..?
i bought it on ebay dual sim for 620$ shipped. its way snappier and the battery life is significantly better. i havent rooted it yet
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The international variant supports all the LTE bands supported by the tmobile one (and more) see http://www.phonemore.com/compare/ph...-samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-sm-g935f-64gb/3305854
And the G935F connects fine to band 12
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What CSC are you on?
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I had an international Note5 on T-Mobile's network. I hated not having WiFi calling and advanced messaging features and such. I was able to flash a ROM that included some of the lost features luckily, but that would not be the case here since the chipsets are different (at least not possible now). Additionally, for some reason the signal was always worse than my girlfriend's Note5 even when side-by-side. Consistently worse... I wouldn't deal with the hassle again.
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My experience with my international S6 was very similar to yours. I moved back to the states with it and signed up with T-mobile. In my gym, which is underground, I could barely get a 4G signal (or nothing at all). Emails and notifications wouldn't come through even when I was connected to 4G. I got the s7e on tmobile and although signal still isn't strong, notifications come through reliably.
Not too scientific as they are different phone models and I've never paid this observation too much mind but now that I've heard your story, I'm inclined to think that carrier specific models might be better at picking up signal on that carrier.
Been using international version for a while, returned my t-mobile version on the 20th day, by that time it was apparent to me that the t-mobile version would not be getting rooted anytime soon. In my opinion this device is much better rooted, especially since i like a lot of color schemes on my status bar and the Ads were driving me crazy. would've preferred a rooted t-mobile version, but a rooted international version is light years better than a stock version of any kind imo.
I'm on MID (Iraq)
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What CSC are you on?
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anyone going to get this and use it on at&t?
i was looking into that. it misses one LTE frequency but I cant get a clear answer as to whether it matters or not
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i was looking into that. it misses one LTE frequency but I cant get a clear answer as to whether it matters or not
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which one is it missing?
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According to the N930FD spec sheet, this phone has all the necessary hardware to operate on AT&T. It supports 1900MHz (B2), 850MHz (B5), LTE700 (B17), and LTE1700/2100 (B4). There is no reason why it wouldn't work.
I've got it pre-ordered from AT&T. Wish it was the 19th already lol
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missing 2 bands. b29 & b30
https://www.frequencycheck.com/comp...-td-lte/samsung-sm-n930a-galaxy-note-7-td-lte
That's why I ended up pre-ordering the ATT version
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The 2 missing bands don't seem to be a big deal
Band 29 - Pertaining to cellular networks, the radio downlink is the transmission path from a cell site to the cell phone. (A frequency for Tracking you)
Band 30 - The Wireless Communications Service (WCS) 2.3ghz Frequency that is mostly used for the "ZWave type technology" (ATT Alarms - like locking doors etc.)
I'm definitely going with Galaxy Note 7 N930FD DUAL SIM Factory Unlocked! I'm sure it'll feel nice to be free and feel free from a carrier like ATT. The last few devices I've purchased I felt like a mouse caught in a trap. The S6 Edge was & will be the last carrier locked device I will ever buy. Not all may feel my pain but that's way to much money to put out and be locked out of it.
One advantage of ATT is for WHEN the devices go wrong. I have had to switch practically evert note I ever had from Note 1 through 5. They are very good at that.
That's one worry about getting the device from a 3rd party seller, for me anyway.
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so in retrospect how important are the 2 missing bands? The one that tracks you does it cause issues with the GPS??
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...I'm definitely going with Galaxy Note 7 N930FD DUAL SIM Factory Unlocked! I'm sure it'll feel nice to be free and feel free from a carrier like ATT......Not all may feel my pain but that's way to much money to put out and be locked out of it.
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ditto; having FULL control of what i paid for is more important to me. i realize/understand/accept the risk of ownership. i have the DUOS S7Edge (935FD) and it's working well for me. that being said, i'm not able to use ATT's VoLTE and ATT's Video call features. i suspect something in the ROM is missing from my device. nonetheless, not showstoppers for me. only Note 7 showstopper for me now is if the device cannot be rooted.
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Band 29 - Pertaining to cellular networks, the radio downlink is the transmission path from a cell site to the cell phone. (A frequency for Tracking you)
Band 30 - The Wireless Communications Service (WCS) 2.3ghz Frequency that is mostly used for the "ZWave type technology" (ATT Alarms - like locking doors etc.)
I'm definitely going with Galaxy Note 7 N930FD DUAL SIM Factory Unlocked! I'm sure it'll feel nice to be free and feel free from a carrier like ATT. The last few devices I've purchased I felt like a mouse caught in a trap. The S6 Edge was & will be the last carrier locked device I will ever buy. Not all may feel my pain but that's way to much money to put out and be locked out of it.
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I didn't even know what those 2 were since googling at&t bands only shows info on the ones used for calls and LTE.
Band 30 is newer spectrum they purchased last year, it's mainly for high congestion areas and hasn't been deployed in many places yet. Not sure how significant it will be in the near future, I do know that the iPhone SE was released without it, so it can't be that important, yet. Band 29 I have no idea, haven't researched it yet. I don't think I'd be afraid of this model in terms of reception, but you lose a lot of stuff like wifi calling, VOLTE, Samsung pay, etc.
Anyone know if the bootloader is unlocked? I'd be willing to lose the AT&T stuff if I could root it.
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ditto; having FULL control of what i paid for is more important to me. i realize/understand/accept the risk of ownership. i have the DUOS S7Edge (935FD) and it's working well for me. that being said, i'm not able to use ATT's VoLTE and ATT's Video call features. i suspect something in the ROM is missing from my device. nonetheless, not showstoppers for me. only Note 7 showstopper for me now is if the device cannot be rooted.
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He man, how've you been? :good:
I ordered a Note 7 Duos N930FD . It scheduled to be delivered tomorrow so we'll see how it goes.....
Very interested to hear how you get on on AT&T. Where did you buy it to get it delivered tomorrow?
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I just pre-ordered mine from Best Buy on AT&T. I am planning to to payout the full cost immediately after getting the device. And currently I don't have any contract with AT&T. Will I be able to unlock my Note 7 easily? Will it affect my warranty in any manner?
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Very interested to hear how you get on on AT&T. Where did you buy it to get it delivered tomorrow?
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Just got it today. and so far so good. Just popped in the SIM and all good LTE, voice, etc. Tomorrow I will put through the paces and report back.
I got it from https://www.from.ae/en/
They were great in communication and fast shipping.
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Just got it today. and so far so good. Just popped in the SIM and all good LTE, voice, etc. Tomorrow I will put through the paces and report back.
I got it from https://www.from.ae/en/
They were great in communication and fast shipping.
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Can you see if wifi calling works? I'm pretty sure it's no, but I wanted to hear it first hand. If it doesn't maybe it's worth a call to att tech support and maybe they can add it. Also does Samsung pay work?
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Can you see if wifi calling works? I'm pretty sure it's no, but I wanted to hear it first hand. If it doesn't maybe it's worth a call to att tech support and maybe they can add it. Also does Samsung pay work?
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No Wi-Fi calling. Samsung pay is not included in the default apps. I'll play more tomorrow to see.
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i briefly owned a note 5 international device without samsung pay. to get it to work you need a ROM from a country where Samsung pay is active. Like US, UK, Australia dn i think Singapore now. At the time the only roms were from countries that hadnt activated samsung pay and therefore the app didnt work. Not the end of the world as there is android pay.
I am really interested to see how you get on with LTE without that band. Can you do a compare to an AT&T device?
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i briefly owned a note 5 international device without samsung pay. to get it to work you need a ROM from a country where Samsung pay is active. Like US, UK, Australia dn i think Singapore now. At the time the only roms were from countries that hadnt activated samsung pay and therefore the app didnt work. Not the end of the world as there is android pay.
I am really interested to see how you get on with LTE without that band. Can you do a compare to an AT&T device?
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So far so good today. I drive a lot for work and signal / lte has been working fine. Basically haven't noticed anything wrong with data/signal so that's a good thing. I haven't cancelled my pre order with ATT so I might compare it to that one when it comes in.
Tonight I can run speed test side by side with my wife's iPhone tonight at home. Not really sure if that would help, but I can do it.
You can ask your questions about your ZenFone AR here.
Any questions about:software,hardware,system updates and etc.
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So I'm not too thrilled about the 6 GB/64 GB version we're apparently getting in Canada, and am seriously considering getting an 8 GB/128 GB version on eBay, but I'm concerned about it being a Taiwanese SKU/serial.
Does anyone have any experience or thoughts as to whether it would work in Canada, if updates would come properly, etc - or better still if I could just flash it to the NA version on arrival, etc.? Thanks!
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So I'm not too thrilled about the 6 GB/64 GB version we're apparently getting in Canada, and am seriously considering getting an 8 GB/128 GB version on eBay, but I'm concerned about it being a Taiwanese SKU/serial.
Does anyone have any experience or thoughts as to whether it would work in Canada, if updates would come properly, etc - or better still if I could just flash it to the NA version on arrival, etc.? Thanks!
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You must buy ww or Europe rom Version.
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Will any of the unlocked version work on Verizon?
I've been looking for complete specs... will any of the unlocked versions of this phone work on Verizon?
Make 8 GB Zenfone AR work on Verizon?
Hyacin said:
So I'm not too thrilled about the 6 GB/64 GB version we're apparently getting in Canada, and am seriously considering getting an 8 GB/128 GB version on eBay, but I'm concerned about it being a Taiwanese SKU/serial.
Does anyone have any experience or thoughts as to whether it would work in Canada, if updates would come properly, etc - or better still if I could just flash it to the NA version on arrival, etc.? Thanks!
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I am also super interested in the ability get an 8 GB version working on Verizon. If someone knows for sure a flash would get the correct bands and it's not a hardware issue, that would be terrific.
Buying the 8/256GB RAM/storage version in Europe.
At the moment I am only able to find this phone available for purchase in Sweden with 6GB of RAM and 128GB of internal storage. Does anyone know if a version with the highest specs will be available in the future? Why aren't the phone available with all options in every country? Where can I go to get a version with better specs?
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I am also super interested in the ability get an 8 GB version working on Verizon. If someone knows for sure a flash would get the correct bands and it's not a hardware issue, that would be terrific.
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Bought my Verizon one yesterday. Based on the unlocked one I briefly got to fondle it does look to be a hardware limit.
The unlocked ones will not work on Verizon Sprint says in specs on Amazon website
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The Verizon one seems good so far just hope we can get some development for it.
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Because Amazon website has misinformation.
Well, I bit the bullet and just picked mine up. Haven't done anything to it yet but plug it in. Battery was at 15% so I need to let it charge first. Hate saying goodbye to root though....
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The Amazon or global one is GSM network Verizon and Sprint use CDMA networks . So the info on their site is correct.
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I've been looking for complete specs... will any of the unlocked versions of this phone work on Verizon?
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From my testing, the unlocked version will pick up Verizon LTE bands but calls fail since there is no VoLTE option on the phone. Did not pick up any of their 3G signals, and their system would not accept my IMEI as a compatible device. So it may work if you can convince Verizon to add the phone to their system, which is unlikely since they already have their own version.
FWIW I also tried it with a Sprint SIM, but got no service whatsoever and their system would not accept the IMEI. Thew in a Cricket/AT&T SIM and the phone worked as expected.
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Well, I bit the bullet and just picked mine up. Haven't done anything to it yet but plug it in. Battery was at 15% so I need to let it charge first. Hate saying goodbye to root though....
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I doubt you will miss it. The phone is beast enough. Enjoy it!
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I doubt you will miss it. The phone is beast enough. Enjoy it!
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I miss the high score I've built up in Klondike for the last 7 years and I miss all the notes I had in my Memo app and I definitely miss having Kernel options, because I'm not impressed with battery life at this point, but yeah, it's a beast. The screen is amazing. Like nothing I've ever seen before. The camera lives up to advertised and it's super fast.
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From my testing, the unlocked version will pick up Verizon LTE bands but calls fail since there is no VoLTE option on the phone. Did not pick up any of their 3G signals, and their system would not accept my IMEI as a compatible device. So it may work if you can convince Verizon to add the phone to their system, which is unlikely since they already have their own version.
FWIW I also tried it with a Sprint SIM, but got no service whatsoever and their system would not accept the IMEI. Thew in a Cricket/AT&T SIM and the phone worked as expected.
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Which LTE Bands are you getting?
I'm on T-Mobile,seems we only have Band 2 support on the WW unlocked 8GB/128 GB Model.
I've already initiated a return w/the e-Bay seller,more than likely,it's going back tomorrow.
I'd been OK with Bands 2 & 4,which are listed here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73425969&postcount=2
The fact that they let this .pdf out & it's not even accurate speaks volumes for North American support:Tone-Deaf would be a compliment...............
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Which LTE Bands are you getting?
I'm on T-Mobile,seems we only have Band 2 support on the WW unlocked 8GB/128 GB Model.
I've already initiated a return w/the e-Bay seller,more than likely,it's going back tomorrow.
I'd been OK with Bands 2 & 4,which are listed here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73425969&postcount=2
The fact that they let this .pdf out & it's not even accurate speaks volumes for North American support:Tone-Deaf would be a compliment...............
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I was able to get service on 4 and 13 for Verizon, and 2 and 12 for Cricket/AT&T. It may support more, but I'm not aware of any apps that will let me scan for service on all bands. LTE Discovery mentioned a "Potential eCSFB issue" with the Verizon SIM which is likely because there was no CDMA support.
Fun fact... apparently the phone supports XLTE with Verizon, which led to a rather depressing speed test compared to my service with Cricket.
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I was able to get service on 4 and 13 for Verizon, and 2 and 12 for Cricket/AT&T. It may support more, but I'm not aware of any apps that will let me scan for service on all bands. LTE Discovery mentioned a "Potential eCSFB issue" with the Verizon SIM which is likely because there was no CDMA support.
Fun fact... apparently the phone supports XLTE with Verizon, which led to a rather depressing speed test compared to my service with Cricket.
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Are your results with the VZW model,or,the unlocked model?
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Are your results with the VZW model,or,the unlocked model?
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These are from the Unlocked 8GB/128GB model from Amazon running the WW firmware.
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These are from the Unlocked 8GB/128GB model from Amazon running the WW firmware.
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THX!,just wanted to make sure we were talking about the same model phone.
I'm gonna give it one more day,get around town & see if the connectivity is OK.
If spotty (w/Band 2 only) ,I'm sending it back,or,selling it on Swappa.
Outside of sparse LTE Band support,it's a nice phone,I really don't wanna part w/it so soon after getting it.
Haven't tried out the AR/VR Capabilities yet,but,I do like the display & the speaker quality/loudness.
TBH,I'm covered in WI-FI Most of the time,but,I did expect better LTE Band support nevertheless,especially for a DualSIM/Unlocked phone.
The fact that it's being sold on Amazon as-is seems to be Asus shooting themselves in the foot,certainly there'll be quite a few returns,once people find out connectivity is less than ideal for an unlocked phone,one that is marketed to the US/North America.
Update on mine, battery life is getting better now as the phone settles in. NOT impressed with Data though. I was in the country yesterday, my ASUS Zenpad had 2 bars of 4G and the Zenfone was in roam. Everything else is great, and living without root is bearable, I guess. Fortunately, my 7 year high score on Klondike is an X-Box Live/Google Play game and the score were carried over from the X Box cloud. I know that sounds silly but 7 years over multiple devices is a long time to build up a high score and was a major stress point going to a locked down device
Hi there, I'm looking at buying an S10+ on eBay, and I see quite a few from AT&T (unlocked) that don't support Band 71. I'm on T-Mobile, and was wondering if I can install the T-Mobile firmware, since all of the G975U models supposedly support all the US firmwares, correct? If I do install the T-Mobile firmware on one of the AT&T unlocked models, will it activate Band 71? I live in a city and don't really need Band 71, but I do travel frequently and was just recently in an area of Band 71 coverage that my current phone LG G6 couldn't support, so I'm curious.
I'm using the following page for reference on which firmwares/phone models support which bands:
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-s10-plus-model-number-sm-g975-differences/
Thanks!
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Hi there, I'm looking at buying an S10+ on eBay, and I see quite a few from AT&T (unlocked) that don't support Band 71. I'm on T-Mobile, and was wondering if I can install the T-Mobile firmware, since all of the G975U models supposedly support all the US firmwares, correct? If I do install the T-Mobile firmware on one of the AT&T unlocked models, will it activate Band 71? I live in a city and don't really need Band 71, but I do travel frequently and was just recently in an area of Band 71 coverage that my current phone LG G6 couldn't support, so I'm curious.
I'm using the following page for reference on which firmwares/phone models support which bands:
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-s10-plus-model-number-sm-g975-differences/
Thanks!
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I'f you flash to t.mobile firmware then you should be good to go.
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Thanks, LimeyBastard. So just to confirm I understand this correctly, all of the Snapdragon/US based models have the exact same hardware, which supports Band 71, but only Tmobile and US Cellular activate Band 71 support in the firmware? Therefore, simply flashing the tmobile firmware onto any G975U unit will result in a phone that can use Band 71?
The ATT phones for sale seem considerably cheaper than the tmobile ones for some reason, so this seems like a good way to save money.
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Thanks, LimeyBastard. So just to confirm I understand this correctly, all of the Snapdragon/US based models have the exact same hardware, which supports Band 71, but only Tmobile and US Cellular activate Band 71 support in the firmware? Therefore, simply flashing the tmobile firmware onto any G975U unit will result in a phone that can use Band 71?
The ATT phones for sale seem considerably cheaper than the tmobile ones for some reason, so this seems like a good way to save money.
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Correct.
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Excellent, thank you! As it turns out, there's also a flamingo pink phone that is only sold by AT&T. I'd love to use that on T-Mobile. Of course, I can without Band 71, but now if I find myself stuck somewhere in the country, I might be able to have a pink phone to ward off the wolves! Haha. Now I just have to see if it's easy to unlock an AT&T carrier locked phone.
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Excellent, thank you! As it turns out, there's also a flamingo pink phone that is only sold by AT&T. I'd love to use that on T-Mobile. Of course, I can without Band 71, but now if I find myself stuck somewhere in the country, I might be able to have a pink phone to ward off the wolves! Haha. Now I just have to see if it's easy to unlock an AT&T carrier locked phone.
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You remind me of me, likes to go unique colors if possible [emoji106]
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gwbyrd said:
Excellent, thank you! As it turns out, there's also a flamingo pink phone that is only sold by AT&T. I'd love to use that on T-Mobile. Of course, I can without Band 71, but now if I find myself stuck somewhere in the country, I might be able to have a pink phone to ward off the wolves! Haha. Now I just have to see if it's easy to unlock an AT&T carrier locked phone.
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The U1 S10s have B71. Why do you want to bother with the ATT variant?
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The U1 S10s have B71. Why do you want to bother with the ATT variant?
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He or she said its because they can get hold of this variant at a better price.
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The U1 S10s have B71. Why do you want to bother with the ATT variant?
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Hi Ace42! I don't need the ATT variant, it just so happened the cheapest model I found on eBay was an ATT variant, so I thought I could save money that way. I'd be perfectly happy if I could find a U1 variant, or at this stage any of the unlocked carrier variants. It seems unlocking these phones isn't a guaranteed thing yet? There are some really cheap ones from Sprint.
On this subject, does anyone know if these 3rd party unlock services are reliable/safe? I hate to spend money to unlock my phone, but if it costs $25 and I can use my phone on another network, I suppose it's worth it. I believe I can request an unlock from the carrier in many cases, but if they turn me down, I don't want to spend money on a phone I can't use, as there isn't currently a DIY method to unlock the G975U, correct?
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On this subject, does anyone know if these 3rd party unlock services are reliable/safe? I hate to spend money to unlock my phone, but if it costs $25 and I can use my phone on another network, I suppose it's worth it. I believe I can request an unlock from the carrier in many cases, but if they turn me down, I don't want to spend money on a phone I can't use, as there isn't currently a DIY method to unlock the G975U, correct?
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I can only go by who I've used in the past. Cellunlocker net. Used them twice.
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He or she said its because they can get hold of this variant at a better price.
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Ah, makes sense! SIM unlocking ATT phones is the annoying bit so I generally keep my distance.
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Hi Ace42! I don't need the ATT variant, it just so happened the cheapest model I found on eBay was an ATT variant, so I thought I could save money that way. I'd be perfectly happy if I could find a U1 variant, or at this stage any of the unlocked carrier variants. It seems unlocking these phones isn't a guaranteed thing yet? There are some really cheap ones from Sprint.
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I've used ATT's device unlock multiple times in the past. The only issue is that requests are denied for no reason, which means resubmitting your request. You don't have to be an ATT subscriber (T-Mobile user).
https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/
I know this is an old thread, but were you ever successful in enabling band 71 on the S10?
I am curious as to doing the same thing on an S10e - which also has a US and an international version. My main reason for wanting to do it is not cost, but the fact that the S10e comes with dual-SIM support, whereas for some insane reason, the US version does not. It seems to be that many of Samsung's US phones drop 2-SIM support.