anyone going to get this and use it on at&t?
i was looking into that. it misses one LTE frequency but I cant get a clear answer as to whether it matters or not
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i was looking into that. it misses one LTE frequency but I cant get a clear answer as to whether it matters or not
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which one is it missing?
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According to the N930FD spec sheet, this phone has all the necessary hardware to operate on AT&T. It supports 1900MHz (B2), 850MHz (B5), LTE700 (B17), and LTE1700/2100 (B4). There is no reason why it wouldn't work.
I've got it pre-ordered from AT&T. Wish it was the 19th already lol
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missing 2 bands. b29 & b30
https://www.frequencycheck.com/comp...-td-lte/samsung-sm-n930a-galaxy-note-7-td-lte
That's why I ended up pre-ordering the ATT version
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The 2 missing bands don't seem to be a big deal
Band 29 - Pertaining to cellular networks, the radio downlink is the transmission path from a cell site to the cell phone. (A frequency for Tracking you)
Band 30 - The Wireless Communications Service (WCS) 2.3ghz Frequency that is mostly used for the "ZWave type technology" (ATT Alarms - like locking doors etc.)
I'm definitely going with Galaxy Note 7 N930FD DUAL SIM Factory Unlocked! I'm sure it'll feel nice to be free and feel free from a carrier like ATT. The last few devices I've purchased I felt like a mouse caught in a trap. The S6 Edge was & will be the last carrier locked device I will ever buy. Not all may feel my pain but that's way to much money to put out and be locked out of it.
One advantage of ATT is for WHEN the devices go wrong. I have had to switch practically evert note I ever had from Note 1 through 5. They are very good at that.
That's one worry about getting the device from a 3rd party seller, for me anyway.
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so in retrospect how important are the 2 missing bands? The one that tracks you does it cause issues with the GPS??
cmesmokeu said:
...I'm definitely going with Galaxy Note 7 N930FD DUAL SIM Factory Unlocked! I'm sure it'll feel nice to be free and feel free from a carrier like ATT......Not all may feel my pain but that's way to much money to put out and be locked out of it.
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ditto; having FULL control of what i paid for is more important to me. i realize/understand/accept the risk of ownership. i have the DUOS S7Edge (935FD) and it's working well for me. that being said, i'm not able to use ATT's VoLTE and ATT's Video call features. i suspect something in the ROM is missing from my device. nonetheless, not showstoppers for me. only Note 7 showstopper for me now is if the device cannot be rooted.
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Band 29 - Pertaining to cellular networks, the radio downlink is the transmission path from a cell site to the cell phone. (A frequency for Tracking you)
Band 30 - The Wireless Communications Service (WCS) 2.3ghz Frequency that is mostly used for the "ZWave type technology" (ATT Alarms - like locking doors etc.)
I'm definitely going with Galaxy Note 7 N930FD DUAL SIM Factory Unlocked! I'm sure it'll feel nice to be free and feel free from a carrier like ATT. The last few devices I've purchased I felt like a mouse caught in a trap. The S6 Edge was & will be the last carrier locked device I will ever buy. Not all may feel my pain but that's way to much money to put out and be locked out of it.
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I didn't even know what those 2 were since googling at&t bands only shows info on the ones used for calls and LTE.
Band 30 is newer spectrum they purchased last year, it's mainly for high congestion areas and hasn't been deployed in many places yet. Not sure how significant it will be in the near future, I do know that the iPhone SE was released without it, so it can't be that important, yet. Band 29 I have no idea, haven't researched it yet. I don't think I'd be afraid of this model in terms of reception, but you lose a lot of stuff like wifi calling, VOLTE, Samsung pay, etc.
Anyone know if the bootloader is unlocked? I'd be willing to lose the AT&T stuff if I could root it.
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ditto; having FULL control of what i paid for is more important to me. i realize/understand/accept the risk of ownership. i have the DUOS S7Edge (935FD) and it's working well for me. that being said, i'm not able to use ATT's VoLTE and ATT's Video call features. i suspect something in the ROM is missing from my device. nonetheless, not showstoppers for me. only Note 7 showstopper for me now is if the device cannot be rooted.
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He man, how've you been? :good:
I ordered a Note 7 Duos N930FD . It scheduled to be delivered tomorrow so we'll see how it goes.....
Very interested to hear how you get on on AT&T. Where did you buy it to get it delivered tomorrow?
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I just pre-ordered mine from Best Buy on AT&T. I am planning to to payout the full cost immediately after getting the device. And currently I don't have any contract with AT&T. Will I be able to unlock my Note 7 easily? Will it affect my warranty in any manner?
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ekerbuddyeker said:
Very interested to hear how you get on on AT&T. Where did you buy it to get it delivered tomorrow?
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Just got it today. and so far so good. Just popped in the SIM and all good LTE, voice, etc. Tomorrow I will put through the paces and report back.
I got it from https://www.from.ae/en/
They were great in communication and fast shipping.
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Just got it today. and so far so good. Just popped in the SIM and all good LTE, voice, etc. Tomorrow I will put through the paces and report back.
I got it from https://www.from.ae/en/
They were great in communication and fast shipping.
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Can you see if wifi calling works? I'm pretty sure it's no, but I wanted to hear it first hand. If it doesn't maybe it's worth a call to att tech support and maybe they can add it. Also does Samsung pay work?
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Can you see if wifi calling works? I'm pretty sure it's no, but I wanted to hear it first hand. If it doesn't maybe it's worth a call to att tech support and maybe they can add it. Also does Samsung pay work?
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No Wi-Fi calling. Samsung pay is not included in the default apps. I'll play more tomorrow to see.
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i briefly owned a note 5 international device without samsung pay. to get it to work you need a ROM from a country where Samsung pay is active. Like US, UK, Australia dn i think Singapore now. At the time the only roms were from countries that hadnt activated samsung pay and therefore the app didnt work. Not the end of the world as there is android pay.
I am really interested to see how you get on with LTE without that band. Can you do a compare to an AT&T device?
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i briefly owned a note 5 international device without samsung pay. to get it to work you need a ROM from a country where Samsung pay is active. Like US, UK, Australia dn i think Singapore now. At the time the only roms were from countries that hadnt activated samsung pay and therefore the app didnt work. Not the end of the world as there is android pay.
I am really interested to see how you get on with LTE without that band. Can you do a compare to an AT&T device?
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So far so good today. I drive a lot for work and signal / lte has been working fine. Basically haven't noticed anything wrong with data/signal so that's a good thing. I haven't cancelled my pre order with ATT so I might compare it to that one when it comes in.
Tonight I can run speed test side by side with my wife's iPhone tonight at home. Not really sure if that would help, but I can do it.
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We all saw the Verizon version will soon be on sale but has anyway read anything about a possible AT&T version? I kind of a recall a while back some article saying it went through FCC with AT&T frequencies but it may have been confused with the Galaxy Plus...
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We all saw the Verizon version will soon be on sale but has anyway read anything about a possible AT&T version? I kind of a recall a while back some article saying it went through FCC with AT&T frequencies but it may have been confused with the Galaxy Plus...
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Never, ever, EVER, EVER, EVER buy a device which has been carrier subsidized!
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Never, ever, EVER, EVER, EVER buy a device which has been carrier subsidized!
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While I agree that you should always buy an unlocked phone if possible, if he wants ATT LTE (4G) he's kinda stuck with buying it from them.
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While I agree that you should always buy an unlocked phone if possible, if he wants ATT LTE (4G) he's kinda stuck with buying it from them.
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True... For now... At least until manufacturers start making unlocked multi-band LTE devices.
Besides, with LTE not being unlimited, it's kinda pointless at this stage. Let the technology (and rate plans) mature a bit more first.
If you must really have the LTE then I would wait for either Verizon or ATT version. But remember you wont have phone capabilities with the Verizon or ATT version.
I am using ATT Go Phone Prepaid on my 7.7. I am in NY and the data speeds are actually pretty fast. I average about 4-6mbps download speeds. Web pages load very fast. For me its good enough.
Yeah, while LTE speeds are amazing, at present I don't have a whole lot of use for them on a tablet. I suppose one should really determine if they need to use it for video streaming/conferencing where there is no WiFi. Otherwise, 3G suffices for most casual use.
The US could actually do with a bit more oversight and regulation in this area so we could use LTE without having to worry about asinine limitations.
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Never, ever, EVER, EVER, EVER buy a device which has been carrier subsidized!
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I bought my original Tab from AT&T but didn't buy the subsidized version...
Anyway although I understand it has downsides since the IMEI is in the database of the carrier (Yeah it costed me my unlimited plan last year...) t doesn't create that many problems after a bit of clean-up (I use a derivative of CM7.2 (Boca) and also unlocked the device)
Anyway go for he international if you wish, on my side I would really like to have the IR port (No saying the AT&T version will have it but oping for it). And if you want to enjoy LTE speeds just forget about the international version
Anyway... waiting for more versions to be out worldwide in order to pick the best one for me
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If you must really have the LTE then I would wait for either Verizon or ATT version. But remember you wont have phone capabilities with the Verizon or ATT version.
I am using ATT Go Phone Prepaid on my 7.7. I am in NY and the data speeds are actually pretty fast. I average about 4-6mbps download speeds. Web pages load very fast. For me its good enough.
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Verizon no thanks... I travel extensively outside the US and want to be able to use my Tab abroad
For the AT&T version I don't know if it will have voice enabled or not. That's why I am asking i anybody has any news about it. I am curious to see if it has voice enabled or the IR port. Just remember the initial Tab on AT&T was not offciially voice capable but this was fixed quite easily...
Again I am more into checking my options than purchasing anything. My original Tab is actually pretty fast and if my battery life was not getting more and more scarce I would probably wait a while before buying anything new
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Verizon no thanks... I travel extensively outside the US and want to be able to use my Tab abroad
For the AT&T version I don't know if it will have voice enabled or not. That's why I am asking i anybody has any news about it. I am curious to see if it has voice enabled or the IR port. Just remember the initial Tab on AT&T was not offciially voice capable but this was fixed quite easily...
Again I am more into checking my options than purchasing anything. My original Tab is actually pretty fast and if my battery life was not getting more and more scarce I would probably wait a while before buying anything new
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I can just about guarantee that the AT&T version will NOT be voice enabled. Read my article linked in the previous posts, and you'll understand why.
Buy the international/unlocked 7.7, especially if you travel a lot, and don't look back.
P.S. Don't forget to make sure that AT&T gets a good look at your proud middle finger!
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I can just about guarantee that the AT&T version will NOT be voice enabled. Read my article linked in the previous posts, and you'll understand why.
Buy the international/unlocked 7.7, especially if you travel a lot, and don't look back.
P.S. Don't forget to make sure that AT&T gets a good look at your proud middle finger!
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What is for sure is about products that are already out... So what is 100% sure is your international version won't have the IR port. Period. And this is a function I really want to have
For the AT&T version although I believe it is likely it won't have voice enabled, let's wait and see. I am not in a hurry since anyway there is so far no custom ROM for the Tab 7.7. Besides it is quite possible the AT&T will be able to get voice capability
Ideally I'd like voice + IR while I can do without LTE (Even though living in NYC and travelling often to Japan, LTE is actually an interesting option)
Anyway hopefully we will see more and more versions out here and some countries may have it all. If not then I'll pick what seems the best compromise for me
I was just looking at these they negri electronics for the price of a 3g/wifi version for voice usage. If the 7 plus had the same screen and ran 3g if be interested but I'll take the 7.7 with no issue. Anyone know the cheapest place to get one. Negri was at $678 if I remember correctly.
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Does anyone know how much the Verizon version will cost at subsidized prices? I mean if it's going to be like the zoom ($499 - $599) when it was first release, might as well get the international version since price won't be that much different.
By the way Jade Eyed Wolf, were you able to sell your Galaxy Note? I have mine and love it but also want the galaxy tab 7.7... my wife is going to kill me if I keep both... it's going to be like $1400 for both devices... I'm trying to sell all my tablets so that I can afford it though.
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Does anyone know how much the Verizon version will cost at subsidized prices? I mean if it's going to be like the zoom ($499 - $599) when it was first release, might as well get the international version since price won't be that much different.
By the way Jade Eyed Wolf, were you able to sell your Galaxy Note? I have mine and love it but also want the galaxy tab 7.7... my wife is going to kill me if I keep both... it's going to be like $1400 for both devices... I'm trying to sell all my tablets so that I can afford it though.
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I still have my Note at this time. I haven't yet put it up on eBay. I'm debating on whether or not I want to hang onto it until it get's official ICS and see what it's like then. Depending on that experience, it's either my Note or my GS2 that goes. Both are in perfect condition though!
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Yeah have a look there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1468066
Buying a (more expensive) international version doesn't guarantee you'll manage to go unnoticed by these $$$ suckers...
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What is for sure is about products that are already out... So what is 100% sure is your international version won't have the IR port. Period. And this is a function I really want to have
For the AT&T version although I believe it is likely it won't have voice enabled, let's wait and see. I am not in a hurry since anyway there is so far no custom ROM for the Tab 7.7. Besides it is quite possible the AT&T will be able to get voice capability
Ideally I'd like voice + IR while I can do without LTE (Even though living in NYC and travelling often to Japan, LTE is actually an interesting option)
Anyway hopefully we will see more and more versions out here and some countries may have it all. If not then I'll pick what seems the best compromise for me
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I just posted my thoughts on the IR port over in the general thread. You should have a read.
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Alcibiade said:
Yeah have a look there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1468066
Buying a (more expensive) international version doesn't guarantee you'll manage to go unnoticed by these $$$ suckers...
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Yeah I read that... Bad news indeed if this universally applies. However, I haven't personally experienced any issues apart from being notified that I'm among the top 5% of data users and that I may get throttled blah blah blah. So we'll see...
Anyone using S7 International version on US AT&T carrier?
Care to report any issues? Drawbacks? Limitations, etc?
I'm curious about the this as well
If so, any issues, like with GPS? Also does Samsung pay work?
I don't get why Samsung has made this so complicated: some of us want t faster updates, custom roms etc and are willing to pay for it. And in this particular case a slightly faster more efficient variant.
I just got the 930f, and using it on cricket. So far, I see no drawbacks, but I haven't used it enough. Cricket was auto detected and APN settings already configured. The 930f from ebay was sealed, and no European sim needed.
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I just got the 930f, and using it on cricket. So far, I see no drawbacks, but I haven't used it enough. Cricket was auto detected and APN settings already configured. The 930f from ebay was sealed, and no European sim needed.
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Does Cricket use AT&T towers?
martinezma99 said:
Does Cricket use AT&T towers?
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yes, it is att owned mvno.
Anyone else on AT&T?
Been debating if I want to get this variant as well. Anybody know if AT&t LTE work? Online claims that the phone does support it, but would rather have someone verify it before I purchased it.
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Been debating if I want to get this variant as well. Anybody know if AT&t LTE work? Online claims that the phone does support it, but would rather have someone verify it before I purchased it.
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LTE works fine, but this is missing band 30. But Band 30 is very new, and I believe it's mainly big city markets that use it.
^great thank you for the info
I got the international S7 Edge (935f) and I am using it on ATT.
The ebay sellers remove the region lock before shipping, which requires a 10 minute call in the originating country. I also had no issues when putting my ATT sim in and didn't have to change APN settings or anything, it all worked immediately. I get 4G LTE and speeds are typical for what I am used to. I could also use my phone as a wireless hotspot right away, which was very important to me, and something ATT does not allow without a separate plan. No band 30 as was mentioned, but I can live without that. Also, no samsung pay (for the time being), and no voice over LTE, which I never used before anyway. You're also on your own for warranty.
Not many disadvantages to taking the international over the carrier brand, and you will get a lower cost, bloat free, and rootable/fully customizable phone as an advantage. Very happy w/ my purchase.
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I got the international S7 Edge (935f) and I am using it on ATT.
The ebay sellers remove the region lock before shipping, which requires a 10 minute call in the originating country. I also had no issues when putting my ATT sim in and didn't have to change APN settings or anything, it all worked immediately. I get 4G LTE and speeds are typical for what I am used to. I could also use my phone as a wireless hotspot right away, which was very important to me, and something ATT does not allow without a separate plan. No band 30 as was mentioned, but I can live without that. Also, no samsung pay (for the time being), and no voice over LTE, which I never used before anyway. You're also on your own for warranty.
Not many disadvantages to taking the international over the carrier brand, and you will get a lower cost, bloat free, and rootable/fully customizable phone as an advantage. Very happy w/ my purchase.
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I'm curious if the Samsung Pay app is missing or if it's present and just unable to be configured due to the model number. Thanks! Also, I read someone complaining about GPS with their SM-G935F here in the US. Can't imagine why that would be, but have you had any issues in that area?
samsung pay is not even present. It needs to be baked in by the carrier.
As for GPS, it's perfectly fine. I used it earlier today and it locked in & got me where I needed to go without issue. I don't see why people would say GPS would be impacted by an international phone? GPS will be the same in all of these, and it will connect to the same satellites all the other carriers would use. This isn't like a car where it needs to have region-specific maps pre-loaded.
Does VoLTE work?
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Does VoLTE work?
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No
No but I am using an AT&T version G935A in Canada. Works flawlessly!
If I get the international model, will the phone auto update the APN settings on its own?
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If I get the international model, will the phone auto update the APN settings on its own?
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Read my first response.
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Isn't samsung pay downloadble from the play store now (and APKMirror)? I'm curious if it works once it's installed on the phone.
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samsung pay is not even present. It needs to be baked in by the carrier.
As for GPS, it's perfectly fine. I used it earlier today and it locked in & got me where I needed to go without issue. I don't see why people would say GPS would be impacted by an international phone? GPS will be the same in all of these, and it will connect to the same satellites all the other carriers would use. This isn't like a car where it needs to have region-specific maps pre-loaded.
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Read up on A-GPS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS
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Read up on A-GPS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS
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Thanks for that. Wasn't aware that they combine the Internet connection with the GPS in these phones, makes sense though.
Still, I speak from personal experience with the phone, GPS locks instantly and works great with Google maps. Haven't used it with any other 3rd party apps yet though. If others have had issues I'd like to hear their personal accounts.
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Hi Guys,
Im in a little dilemma, I purchased the S7 G935T and it is coming in tomorrow. So I've been reading a lot about the phone and the known stuff about the bootloader and what not. So should I just return it(Costing $800+) and get the international version (G935F costing $700 on ebay)? I know Samsung Pay will not work and I really don't care about that that much. I mean it's something cool but not a die for feature. I really want the video calling feature that tmobile offer on these higher smartphones though. Are there any other features that the tmobile version might have over the international version? I tried to look but couldn't find much. If I get the international version, that means I can root the phone install custom roms and have less to no bloatwares. Let me know what are the Pros/Cons of getting the international version. Thanks
I struggled with this too, but ultimately it came down to needing Band 12 compatibility. Won't get that with international variant.
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I struggled with this too, but ultimately it came down to needing Band 12 compatibility. Won't get that with international variant.
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Can you tell me more about the 12 band compatibility? Is it just so that VoLTE can work? What other functionalities does this support? Also how is your s7 heat problem? I've been reading a lot about the overheating problem with the SD820
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Can you tell me more about the 12 band compatibility? Is it just so that VoLTE can work? What other functionalities does this support? Also how is your s7 heat problem? I've been reading a lot about the overheating problem with the SD820
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B12 is basically a lower frequency signal so it penetrates buildings better. It also allows you to have LTE available while on a call.
Can't comment on the heat as I just my S7E this afternoon. It did get warm during initial setup, but every phone does ...
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B12 is basically a lower frequency signal so it penetrates buildings better. It also allows you to have LTE available while on a call.
Can't comment on the heat as I just my S7E this afternoon. It did get warm during initial setup, but every phone does ...
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I actually just saw this on for the international version? Is this true?
"UPDATE: 2016/03/31 5:07PM PDT
The previous deal is sold out, but a new one popped up at the same price from another seller (232tech).
In the event your Galaxy S7 pre-order has been delayed, you can just cancel that sucker. As with the S7 Edge, the regular Galaxy S7 has appeared on eBay in its unlocked form. For $599.99, you can get the SM-G930F with support for most GSM/LTE networks. That's about $100 cheaper than the full price GS7 on US carriers.
Importantly, this is an international phone. That means it has an Exynos 8 SoC instead of the Snapdragon 820 in US models. The LTE bands should be great, though. It even has band 12 for T-Mobile. 3G is missing Tmo's band 4, but you'll be fine on HSPA+ data in areas where T-Mobile runs 1900MHz."
I might get the G935F since this thread says it has 12 band
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/detailed-sm-g935-s7-info-t3326180
Interesting ... I wonder if Band 12 will actually work though. I had the Moto X Pure Edition that had to wait for T-mobile to certify (or something) the device before B12 would work. Seeing how that one would likely have different model numbers than those T-mobile sells, band 12 may not work out of the box.
I am no expert by any means, so I could be wrong ...
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Man so little information, I CAN'T DECIDE!!!!! lol. Need more digging because if I get the ebay one then I won't open the tmobile that will be arriving tomorrow since they say the refund should be faster if it's unopened, or else it takes 2 business cycle = 60days for the refund.
I'm on the fence as well. I know I can add VoLTE with my own modifications. I'd also like to port the video calling in dialer. WiFi calling would be nice also but isn't a deal breaker for me. Band 12 is on all variants I believe but is just disabled. Since the international is modifiable, I'd assume there is a way to enable it.
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I'm on the fence as well. I know I can add VoLTE with my own modifications. I'd also like to port the video calling in dialer. WiFi calling would be nice also but isn't a deal breaker for me. Band 12 is on all variants I believe but is just disabled. Since the international is modifiable, I'd assume there is a way to enable it.
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Read from c#23 onward, it seems to work but not VoLTE, wifi calling, and samsung pay. Im still digging to see if it's worth it to get the international version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-galaxy-s7/help/using-sm-g930f-t-mobile-t3335753/page3
There are at least 2 variants of band 12, 3 if I'm not mistaken. Does t TMob use 12b? And does t the int'l version use band 12a and 12c?
There is a possible alternative to 935F.
That is the Chinese released 9350, which is a snapdragon like the TMo, and it might be possible to flash TMo firmware on it after unlocking the bootloader (don't know if this would work or if that would re-lock the bootloader ). Hoping someone with the appropriate skill set would comment on this or even give it a try.
Believe these are available on eBay also.
Dang, from these comments, maybe I should keep the tmobile version?
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Dang, from these comments, maybe I should keep the tmobile version?
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That's what I would recommend. I have been rooting/tinkering for years and although I've had this phone a very short time, aside from ad blocking I honestly see no need to root this phone.
Of course that's subject to change in a matter of weeks, days or months LOL
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I actually just returned my tmobile one. Im looking to get the s7 canadian model. Heard it is the same bands as the one from Tmobile or has all the bands that works with tmobile. I'll let you guys know in a couple of weeks.
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I actually just returned my tmobile one. Im looking to get the s7 canadian model. Heard it is the same bands as the one from Tmobile or has all the bands that works with tmobile. I'll let you guys know in a couple of weeks.
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Just because it has band 12 out of the box, I'm not so sure it means that it'll be supported by T-Mobile. Again, I use the Moto X Pure Edition as an example, Motorola said that the device would support band 12, but it wasn't until the device went through T-Mobile's certication process and an OTA update that we saw Band 12 on the X. (And even still it's not working right - if VoLTE is enabled phones calls are choppy)
Like I said earlier, I am by no means an expert and can very likely be wrong (Heck I actually hope I'm wrong!)
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Just because it has band 12 out of the box, I'm not so sure it means that it'll be supported by T-Mobile. Again, I use the Moto X Pure Edition as an example, Motorola said that the device would support band 12, but it wasn't until the device went through T-Mobile's certication process and an OTA update that we saw Band 12 on the X. (And even still it's not working right - if VoLTE is enabled phones calls are choppy)
Like I said earlier, I am by no means an expert and can very likely be wrong (Heck I actually hope I'm wrong!)
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So from all the digging/comments here all I see is that VoLTE, Wifi Calling, and Samsung pay will not work on the S7 Edge G935F (International Version) and G935W8 (Canadian Version, a little more compatible with US Tmobile). I think this is fine with me because I am using the 5S right now and don't ever have a need for those. But we will see, I am still digging to see if all that are worth it over the Exynos. Which again, I don't have right now so I don't see why just get the Exynos
So just an update, I purchased a S7 Edge g935f. I am using it on Tmobile and also just rooted it. Anyone needs to know anything just give it a shout.
Keep us posted as to the coverage your getting... Also, can you download LTE Discovery and see if you ever get Band 12.
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So just an update, I purchased a S7 Edge g935f. I am using it on Tmobile and also just rooted it. Anyone needs to know anything just give it a shout.
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Thought you were getting the Canadian version ?
Right now (just started looking into this) this seems like a no-brainer. Performance is much better and it's rooted!!!! I know you lose wifi calling in theory (although mine hasn't worked since I purchased it despite hours of troubleshooting and tweaking (sucks bc no coverage at home (rural)), but that can potentially be addressed by a custom rom? Thoughts?
I did the switch. Battery life is better. Speed difference is unnoticeable. Signal/Calling quality is fine. I would most likely switch back if root was available for the t-mobile model (but wouldn't if advanced calling was available for international).
Getting wifi calling + VOLTE + video calling is no small task if that matters to you (the S6's wifi calling was never ported to international models even though they shared the same chipset). It would take porting a qualcomm written csc to a exynos chipset and either porting t-mobile's custom ims implimentation or making the standard ims implimentation work with t-mobile. That being said, it has been done. The Galaxy S5 saw advanced calling from the S6 ported back, HTC's flagships have had wifi calling ported.
I had an international Note5 on T-Mobile's network. I hated not having WiFi calling and advanced messaging features and such. I was able to flash a ROM that included some of the lost features luckily, but that would not be the case here since the chipsets are different (at least not possible now). Additionally, for some reason the signal was always worse than my girlfriend's Note5 even when side-by-side. Consistently worse... I wouldn't deal with the hassle again.
hi, I switched too and I'm glad I did, battery is definitely better and I didn't notice performance differences (nor reception). I believe wifi calling hasn't been/can't be ported but some roms support VOLTE. Just be advised that samsung doesn't honor the warranty of international variants in the US hence insurance companies such as Upsie won't insure your device.
How do you switch?
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You have no warranty though, and Samsung Pay can be tricky to get working.
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Just got an international variant yesterday. Loving it but been struggling to change my CSC to one that supports Samsung Pay. I know the LYS CSC supports it and I've flashed it in Odin which reported success and did fine but upon using my device it didn't change my CSC. So confused as to why...
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Buy a 935F from ebay/swappa. Pay off your 935t, sell it on swappa/ebay.
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How do you switch?
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This is the first phone I've owned that I really haven't felt the need to root. I used to want to root to disable bloatware and to change the theme of the system which I can do on the S7 edge without root. Only thing I do miss is the ad blocking with root but that's a small annoyance that I can live it. Also with the T-Mobile version you get all the necessary bands for extended range LTE which is amazing here in the LA area. Everywhere I go I have solid LTE whether it's indoors or oudoors. I also just used Samsung pay yesterday for the first time at Sprouts grocery store and it worked so easily on the first try! This pay system is flawless. The old lady behind me had a surprised look on her face when I payed that way. Got a free $20 gift card from Samsung for using it for the first time. Just my personal opinion on why the carrier branded T-Mobile version is better.
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The international variant supports all the LTE bands supported by the tmobile one (and more) see http://www.phonemore.com/compare/ph...-samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-sm-g935f-64gb/3305854
And the G935F connects fine to band 12
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This is the first phone I've owned that I really haven't felt the need to root. I used to want to root to disable bloatware and to change the theme of the system which I can do on the S7 edge without root. Only thing I do miss is the ad blocking with root but that's a small annoyance that I can live it. Also with the T-Mobile version you get all the necessary bands for extended range LTE which is amazing here in the LA area. Everywhere I go I have solid LTE whether it's indoors or oudoors. I also just used Samsung pay yesterday for the first time at Sprouts grocery store and it worked so easily on the first try! This pay system is flawless. The old lady behind me had a surprised look on her face when I payed that way. Got a free $20 gift card from Samsung for using it for the first time. Just my personal opinion on why the carrier branded T-Mobile version is better.
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This is my SM-935T Model phone two sim cards active okay..?
i bought it on ebay dual sim for 620$ shipped. its way snappier and the battery life is significantly better. i havent rooted it yet
Remix22 said:
The international variant supports all the LTE bands supported by the tmobile one (and more) see http://www.phonemore.com/compare/ph...-samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-sm-g935f-64gb/3305854
And the G935F connects fine to band 12
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What CSC are you on?
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Nitemare3219 said:
I had an international Note5 on T-Mobile's network. I hated not having WiFi calling and advanced messaging features and such. I was able to flash a ROM that included some of the lost features luckily, but that would not be the case here since the chipsets are different (at least not possible now). Additionally, for some reason the signal was always worse than my girlfriend's Note5 even when side-by-side. Consistently worse... I wouldn't deal with the hassle again.
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My experience with my international S6 was very similar to yours. I moved back to the states with it and signed up with T-mobile. In my gym, which is underground, I could barely get a 4G signal (or nothing at all). Emails and notifications wouldn't come through even when I was connected to 4G. I got the s7e on tmobile and although signal still isn't strong, notifications come through reliably.
Not too scientific as they are different phone models and I've never paid this observation too much mind but now that I've heard your story, I'm inclined to think that carrier specific models might be better at picking up signal on that carrier.
Been using international version for a while, returned my t-mobile version on the 20th day, by that time it was apparent to me that the t-mobile version would not be getting rooted anytime soon. In my opinion this device is much better rooted, especially since i like a lot of color schemes on my status bar and the Ads were driving me crazy. would've preferred a rooted t-mobile version, but a rooted international version is light years better than a stock version of any kind imo.
I'm on MID (Iraq)
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What CSC are you on?
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You can ask your questions about your ZenFone AR here.
Any questions about:software,hardware,system updates and etc.
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So I'm not too thrilled about the 6 GB/64 GB version we're apparently getting in Canada, and am seriously considering getting an 8 GB/128 GB version on eBay, but I'm concerned about it being a Taiwanese SKU/serial.
Does anyone have any experience or thoughts as to whether it would work in Canada, if updates would come properly, etc - or better still if I could just flash it to the NA version on arrival, etc.? Thanks!
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So I'm not too thrilled about the 6 GB/64 GB version we're apparently getting in Canada, and am seriously considering getting an 8 GB/128 GB version on eBay, but I'm concerned about it being a Taiwanese SKU/serial.
Does anyone have any experience or thoughts as to whether it would work in Canada, if updates would come properly, etc - or better still if I could just flash it to the NA version on arrival, etc.? Thanks!
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You must buy ww or Europe rom Version.
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Will any of the unlocked version work on Verizon?
I've been looking for complete specs... will any of the unlocked versions of this phone work on Verizon?
Make 8 GB Zenfone AR work on Verizon?
Hyacin said:
So I'm not too thrilled about the 6 GB/64 GB version we're apparently getting in Canada, and am seriously considering getting an 8 GB/128 GB version on eBay, but I'm concerned about it being a Taiwanese SKU/serial.
Does anyone have any experience or thoughts as to whether it would work in Canada, if updates would come properly, etc - or better still if I could just flash it to the NA version on arrival, etc.? Thanks!
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I am also super interested in the ability get an 8 GB version working on Verizon. If someone knows for sure a flash would get the correct bands and it's not a hardware issue, that would be terrific.
Buying the 8/256GB RAM/storage version in Europe.
At the moment I am only able to find this phone available for purchase in Sweden with 6GB of RAM and 128GB of internal storage. Does anyone know if a version with the highest specs will be available in the future? Why aren't the phone available with all options in every country? Where can I go to get a version with better specs?
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I am also super interested in the ability get an 8 GB version working on Verizon. If someone knows for sure a flash would get the correct bands and it's not a hardware issue, that would be terrific.
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Bought my Verizon one yesterday. Based on the unlocked one I briefly got to fondle it does look to be a hardware limit.
The unlocked ones will not work on Verizon Sprint says in specs on Amazon website
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The Verizon one seems good so far just hope we can get some development for it.
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Because Amazon website has misinformation.
Well, I bit the bullet and just picked mine up. Haven't done anything to it yet but plug it in. Battery was at 15% so I need to let it charge first. Hate saying goodbye to root though....
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Because Amazon website has misinformation.
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The Amazon or global one is GSM network Verizon and Sprint use CDMA networks . So the info on their site is correct.
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I've been looking for complete specs... will any of the unlocked versions of this phone work on Verizon?
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From my testing, the unlocked version will pick up Verizon LTE bands but calls fail since there is no VoLTE option on the phone. Did not pick up any of their 3G signals, and their system would not accept my IMEI as a compatible device. So it may work if you can convince Verizon to add the phone to their system, which is unlikely since they already have their own version.
FWIW I also tried it with a Sprint SIM, but got no service whatsoever and their system would not accept the IMEI. Thew in a Cricket/AT&T SIM and the phone worked as expected.
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Well, I bit the bullet and just picked mine up. Haven't done anything to it yet but plug it in. Battery was at 15% so I need to let it charge first. Hate saying goodbye to root though....
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I doubt you will miss it. The phone is beast enough. Enjoy it!
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I doubt you will miss it. The phone is beast enough. Enjoy it!
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I miss the high score I've built up in Klondike for the last 7 years and I miss all the notes I had in my Memo app and I definitely miss having Kernel options, because I'm not impressed with battery life at this point, but yeah, it's a beast. The screen is amazing. Like nothing I've ever seen before. The camera lives up to advertised and it's super fast.
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From my testing, the unlocked version will pick up Verizon LTE bands but calls fail since there is no VoLTE option on the phone. Did not pick up any of their 3G signals, and their system would not accept my IMEI as a compatible device. So it may work if you can convince Verizon to add the phone to their system, which is unlikely since they already have their own version.
FWIW I also tried it with a Sprint SIM, but got no service whatsoever and their system would not accept the IMEI. Thew in a Cricket/AT&T SIM and the phone worked as expected.
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Which LTE Bands are you getting?
I'm on T-Mobile,seems we only have Band 2 support on the WW unlocked 8GB/128 GB Model.
I've already initiated a return w/the e-Bay seller,more than likely,it's going back tomorrow.
I'd been OK with Bands 2 & 4,which are listed here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73425969&postcount=2
The fact that they let this .pdf out & it's not even accurate speaks volumes for North American support:Tone-Deaf would be a compliment...............
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Which LTE Bands are you getting?
I'm on T-Mobile,seems we only have Band 2 support on the WW unlocked 8GB/128 GB Model.
I've already initiated a return w/the e-Bay seller,more than likely,it's going back tomorrow.
I'd been OK with Bands 2 & 4,which are listed here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73425969&postcount=2
The fact that they let this .pdf out & it's not even accurate speaks volumes for North American support:Tone-Deaf would be a compliment...............
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I was able to get service on 4 and 13 for Verizon, and 2 and 12 for Cricket/AT&T. It may support more, but I'm not aware of any apps that will let me scan for service on all bands. LTE Discovery mentioned a "Potential eCSFB issue" with the Verizon SIM which is likely because there was no CDMA support.
Fun fact... apparently the phone supports XLTE with Verizon, which led to a rather depressing speed test compared to my service with Cricket.
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I was able to get service on 4 and 13 for Verizon, and 2 and 12 for Cricket/AT&T. It may support more, but I'm not aware of any apps that will let me scan for service on all bands. LTE Discovery mentioned a "Potential eCSFB issue" with the Verizon SIM which is likely because there was no CDMA support.
Fun fact... apparently the phone supports XLTE with Verizon, which led to a rather depressing speed test compared to my service with Cricket.
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Are your results with the VZW model,or,the unlocked model?
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Are your results with the VZW model,or,the unlocked model?
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These are from the Unlocked 8GB/128GB model from Amazon running the WW firmware.
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These are from the Unlocked 8GB/128GB model from Amazon running the WW firmware.
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THX!,just wanted to make sure we were talking about the same model phone.
I'm gonna give it one more day,get around town & see if the connectivity is OK.
If spotty (w/Band 2 only) ,I'm sending it back,or,selling it on Swappa.
Outside of sparse LTE Band support,it's a nice phone,I really don't wanna part w/it so soon after getting it.
Haven't tried out the AR/VR Capabilities yet,but,I do like the display & the speaker quality/loudness.
TBH,I'm covered in WI-FI Most of the time,but,I did expect better LTE Band support nevertheless,especially for a DualSIM/Unlocked phone.
The fact that it's being sold on Amazon as-is seems to be Asus shooting themselves in the foot,certainly there'll be quite a few returns,once people find out connectivity is less than ideal for an unlocked phone,one that is marketed to the US/North America.
Update on mine, battery life is getting better now as the phone settles in. NOT impressed with Data though. I was in the country yesterday, my ASUS Zenpad had 2 bars of 4G and the Zenfone was in roam. Everything else is great, and living without root is bearable, I guess. Fortunately, my 7 year high score on Klondike is an X-Box Live/Google Play game and the score were carried over from the X Box cloud. I know that sounds silly but 7 years over multiple devices is a long time to build up a high score and was a major stress point going to a locked down device