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zenfone 3 or Mi A1

My needs:
- Good Camera, esp for indoor and low light use. Need a good manual mode. Portrait mode not important, need to shoot mostly landscape pics.
- Good build quality
- Long lasting battery (~1-2 days for light use)
- Light user, no gaming or other heavy apps
The camera of Mi A1 vs Zenfone 3:
- A1 = dual camera set up
- A1 = no Laser autofocus, no OIS
I would like to get the Zenfone 3, but am seeing some reported issues of camera not focussing. How common is this problem? should I not consider Zenfone 3 based on this issue.

Good camera? Zenfone 3, no other choice.
Just exclude portrait mode.
I'm not having focusing issue of any kind. I do reset after every big update.
I get 7hr SOT on light usage.

Zenfone 3 fr sure as per ur preference. No focus issues with my phone.

thanks for the replies. I am having doubts due to the comments on this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72640398&postcount=7
Specifically because focussing issue is mentioned as a known issue. Any idea how common this issue is? My nexus 5x has just bootlooped on me so I am trying hard to stay away from phones with major known issues.

dzarg said:
thanks for the replies. I am having doubts due to the comments on this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72640398&postcount=7
Specifically because focussing issue is mentioned as a known issue. Any idea how common this issue is? My nexus 5x has just bootlooped on me so I am trying hard to stay away from phones with major known issues.
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Nope, both camera on fw 6.0.1 and 7.0 are the same but seem like in 7.0 it's much better. For the focus issue, i've used camera for several times and i dont see that issue on my phone.
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For zen3 and mi a1 camera. I prefer zen3 than mi a1. U can check here
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Thanks for sharing your experience.
Would you recommend Zenfone 3 to me? My main need is for a phone with a with good camera and long battery life. ( and cost less than $200)
Right now I see good deals on Zenfone 3 ( for $180) so I am considering it seriously.

dzarg said:
@[email protected]@
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Would you recommend Zenfone 3 to me? My main need is for a phone with a with good camera and long battery life. ( and cost less than $200)
Right now I see good deals on Zenfone 3 ( for $180) so I am considering it seriously.
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That's ver 5.2 inch right? Hold on i bought my phone cost $239, so where you found that cost $180?

i have both lol and the mi a1 is my favourite but the camera not great at all mate so i would go for the zenfone 3

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That's ver 5.2 inch right? Hold on i bought my phone cost $239, so where you found that cost $180?
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yes, its the 5.2 in, this is a local deal running in my country, I mentioned equivalent to US$
WHen did you buy the phone?

dzarg said:
yes, its the 5.2 in, this is a local deal running in my country, I mentioned equivalent to US$
WHen did you buy the phone?
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I bought it 6 months ago 239$ for 5.2in and 249$ for 5.5in, i bought both variant. In 5.2in, i get 5hr SOT on light usage and 7hr for 5.5in. if you have some knowledge, you will reduce this to 6hr in 5.2in and 8hr in 5.5in-------> awesome .

I bought the 5.2in version. happy with it so far, thanks to all for the help and suggestions.

Get Max Pro M1(6gb) or wait for RealMe 2 Pro?

Alright, so I need a phone and my main usage is playing PUBGm, watching content and since I'm on XDA, it would obviously mean that I would like to root it and boot it. I've got my eyes set on the ZMP 6gb variant for some time now but the upcoming RealMe 2 Pro has some really sweet specs. So should I get this or wait for it.

coolakshansh said:
Alright, so I need a phone and my main usage is playing PUBGm, watching content and since I'm on XDA, it would obviously mean that I would like to root it and boot it. I've got my eyes set on the ZMP 6gb variant for some time now but the upcoming RealMe 2 Pro has some really sweet specs. So should I get this or wait for it.
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Check whether Realme 1 had got bootloader unlock and root within a reasonable time (if at all it did). It will give you a better perspective.

Grab the poco instead, I gave my 6gb zenfone to mom after I got poco and the difference is day and night, this phone has poor poor audio quality, wired or wireless and network though shows full has call drop issues which I don't get in poco in same place at home. Camera is pathetic on this phone unless you get gcam which is does not work flawlessly on 6gb version. Display is so dull compared to poco and don't even talk about performance. In short only place this phone really shine is 20% larger battery than poco but it has such poor slow charging rate that while playing pubg it won't charge single bit. In comparision you pay 6k more get excellent screen, stellar performance, way better audio quality and network coverage (poco supports 4g+) fast charging and way way better camera. Realme as owned by oppo does not allow to unlock bootloader. Not advertising poco but I love it so much I think anyone who is willing to spend 15k would be a fool to not spend 6k extra and get poco instead. Hope this helps.

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Alright, so I need a phone and my main usage is playing PUBGm, watching content and since I'm on XDA, it would obviously mean that I would like to root it and boot it. I've got my eyes set on the ZMP 6gb variant for some time now but the upcoming RealMe 2 Pro has some really sweet specs. So should I get this or wait for it.
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wait for it also moto one coming at same price,same specs maybe better camera

arvinchugh said:
Grab the poco instead, I gave my 6gb zenfone to mom after I got poco and the difference is day and night, this phone has poor poor audio quality, wired or wireless and network though shows full has call drop issues which I don't get in poco in same place at home. Camera is pathetic on this phone unless you get gcam which is does not work flawlessly on 6gb version. Display is so dull compared to poco and don't even talk about performance. In short only place this phone really shine is 20% larger battery than poco but it has such poor slow charging rate that while playing pubg it won't charge single bit. In comparision you pay 6k more get excellent screen, stellar performance, way better audio quality and network coverage (poco supports 4g+) fast charging and way way better camera. Realme as owned by oppo does not allow to unlock bootloader. Not advertising poco but I love it so much I think anyone who is willing to spend 15k would be a fool to not spend 6k extra and get poco instead. Hope this helps.
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Watching content works in 720p? With the widevine thingy...
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coolakshansh said:
Alright, so I need a phone and my main usage is playing PUBGm, watching content and since I'm on XDA, it would obviously mean that I would like to root it and boot it. I've got my eyes set on the ZMP 6gb variant for some time now but the upcoming RealMe 2 Pro has some really sweet specs. So should I get this or wait for it.
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If you want hassle free rooting and stuff then our device has it going already. I guess as someone already mentioned oppo maybe doesn't allow bootloader unlocking.
If you can stretch your budget then poco is a good buy for your requirements, if you don't mind the notch or miui.

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Watching content works in 720p? With the widevine thingy...
To me, that's the only major thing that this phone lags, people who say watching it in SD or HD is the same thing on such a small screen is just some BS. Watching Netflix and prime in HD is just amazing and I sorely miss it but I've moved to watch it on the laptop now since my laptop's screen is FHD so it takes advantage of FHD streaming. So yea there is no workaround as of now for streaming in HD or FHD. If one can live with streaming SD or have an option to stream somewhere else this is the phone for you. Hope this helps.
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Wait
Wait . Dont hurry for the Zenfone . Its not that Zenfone is a bad phone but the Realme 2 Pro is going to shake the market as it is going be the most affordable phone with SD660 which is really nice processor for gaming and other stuff . If you play games like PUBG you must wait for it to arrive . The CEO of the Chinese Company has promised to deliver better experience at low price.
If you are in a hurry , go for Zenfone Max Pro M1 6GB Variant or the Mi A2

Wait for realme 2 pro, dont go with poco phone, thats a buggy device and overall cheapest looks in this price segment

Wait for real me pro if you want color os or buy moto power one for stock rom and 2 update p and q

coolakshansh said:
Alright, so I need a phone and my main usage is playing PUBGm, watching content and since I'm on XDA, it would obviously mean that I would like to root it and boot it. I've got my eyes set on the ZMP 6gb variant for some time now but the upcoming RealMe 2 Pro has some really sweet specs. So should I get this or wait for it.
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dont wait for realme 2 because u will not be able to unlock bootloader
Buy moto one power
But if you want a phone for pubg then buy asus zenfone max pro m1 beacuse moto one power has a notch and very rounded corners which will cut some screen contents
And asus max m1 has 6gb ram in that price

do you buy this phone today?

I need change my nubia z11 mini s, the volume of calls is unusable is so low, never was good at all. I have found an offer about 200 euros is like new on amazon, i was looking to get redmi note 7pro, xiaomi 8 or meizu 16 I love meizu design and camera looks pretty nice but lacks of support and scene. Maybe in a future I will buy nokia 9 pureview.
I am not sure about to do, I had a desire and keeping good memories. But it just have one camera, could i have bouquet efect pictures? The frames really doesn't like me but and size. I am looking as well a good mic for calls, before the z11 I had a sony z3c and as well fails on mic calls was horrible in the end of phone live.
The phone is still worth it? Seems that doesn't have too may scene and rooms. In Spain this brand is dead literally really few people have it.
Do still buy it nowdays?
Thank you
Edit: I can buy brand new mi8 about 300 euros, mi mix 2s 290 euros or htc u11 like new on amazon about 200 euros. Which do you prefer?

If you don't mind missing regular updates, buy u11.

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If you don't mind missing regular updates, buy u11.
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Thank you to replay, I'm checkings phones, I wonder if buy a xiaomi mi mis 2s for 290 euros or u11 for 200 euros... Really if the rom works ok Í don't mind about updates.

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If you don't mind missing regular updates, buy u11.
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I agree.
U11 has really a great camera, that can not be compared with other mobiles mentioned.
Also system is really fluid and user experience is very polished.
Last year from U11 I went for Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S: i kept it about a month then got a U12+

pibcs81 said:
I need change my nubia z11 mini s, the volume of calls is unusable is so low, never was good at all. I have found an offer about 200 euros is like new on amazon, i was looking to get redmi note 7pro, xiaomi 8 or meizu 16 I love meizu design and camera looks pretty nice but lacks of support and scene. Maybe in a future I will buy nokia 9 pureview.
I am not sure about to do, I had a desire and keeping good memories. But it just have one camera, could i have bouquet efect pictures? The frames really doesn't like me but and size. I am looking as well a good mic for calls, before the z11 I had a sony z3c and as well fails on mic calls was horrible in the end of phone live.
The phone is still worth it? Seems that doesn't have too may scene and rooms. In Spain this brand is dead literally really few people have it.
Do still buy it nowdays?
Thank you
Edit: I can buy brand new mi8 about 300 euros, mi mix 2s 290 euros or htc u11 like new on amazon about 200 euros. Which do you prefer?
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buy htc u11 and you will have no regrets!
just yesterday I sold an oneplus 6 to go back to the htc u11: it's a fabulous phone, nice touch & feel, fantastic camera, nice display, fantastic size, superlative videos with super 3D audio, fingerprint reader very fast to unlock it.
Even today I think the htc u11 is a fantastic phone that can compete with all the other top on the market, even in 2018-2019.
It has only one defect: the updates.
If it's not a problem for you, you can not spend your money better.
And then you also have Amazon's guarantee!
On what Amazon did you find it for 200 euros?
Forgive my English: I use Google translator.

I got HTC U11 for about 250 USD around a month back. It is a great phone. I bought it keeping it as a backup phone and using Note 8 as a main phone but it happened vice versa.

Absolutely recommend even in 2 years from now you won't regret it !

pibcs81 said:
Thank you to replay, I'm checkings phones, I wonder if buy a xiaomi mi mis 2s for 290 euros or u11 for 200 euros... Really if the rom works ok Í don't mind about updates.
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Suggest to go for U11, the main problem is hard to get new software and probably no official Pie to taste. I've got U11 and RedMi 5 Plus and my friend just got a Mi 8 Lite yesterday.
The camera is superb on U11 and Mi 8 Lite(the same camera with Mi8 without OIS and aperture down to f1.9 from f1.8) is far away from U11. I've also got a Sony Z5 Compact and the photo/video quality on Mi 8 Lite is only about the same to Z5c in reality with faster dual pixel focus, never fully believe reviews on net, some are paid. I guess the Mi 8 does better but won't come close to U11 in real life usage.
If you are looking for RedMi note 7 pro, the good is 4000mah battery with sd675 u will receive least 50% more battery life over U11 with downgraded cpu and camera.
Nokia 9 is good only for taking photo with a crazy 12.4 stops dynamic range but photo lacking of details and the video quality comes out from Nokia 9 is bad too.
EDIT: https://twitter.com/htc/status/1105203212477292547
HTC said U11 Pie is still working on so I think we will receive latest security patches later.

U11 all the way. Its way underappreciated phone. Excellent screen, speakers. Superb camera with/without gcam port. Good battery life. Has custom ROM development as well with unlockable bootloader. Its the last issue-free phone from HTC.
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Still a good phone
pibcs81 said:
I need change my nubia z11 mini s, the volume of calls is unusable is so low, never was good at all. I have found an offer about 200 euros is like new on amazon, i was looking to get redmi note 7pro, xiaomi 8 or meizu 16 I love meizu design and camera looks pretty nice but lacks of support and scene. Maybe in a future I will buy nokia 9 pureview.
The phone is still worth it? Seems that doesn't have too may scene and rooms. In Spain this brand is dead literally really few people have it. Do still buy it nowdays?
Hi,
I bought one last week, loving it so far. I came from a Samsung S7 and there are almost identical apart from nice large screen on U11 and better front camera.
It has a nice UI, ROMS on here are good. Battery life good.
I got one on EBay for 185 Euros in perfect condition.
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I would recommend it, if you can purchase it at a decent price, and if you are comfortable installing LineageOS. The combination of the U11 hardware, the LineageOS software, and the Google Camera app make this phone still, to this day, one of the smoothest phones that can take great pictures.
I have owned it for 2 years and plan on holding onto it for another year, or until there is significant improvement in the Google Pixel line.

In my case the camera especially when you use stock camera app. isn't good. Too much noise, but if you use Google camera mod it changes everything. Battery backup is decent, even when my device is 2 years old now.

Switch from Samsung Galaxy S7 to Redmi Note 7

Someone here switched from Galaxy S7 or S7 Edge to Redmi note 7 ?

s7 edge to redmi note 7 here. What's up?

chiplovez9x said:
s7 edge to redmi note 7 here. What's up?
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I would like to know if it's à good idea to switch from S7 to redmi note 7 And how is good thé Xiaomi in picture, screen, speakers, battery life, power compared to s7.
Thank you.

Didn't have an S7 but did have a Note 4 Exynos and Honor 8 before I got the Redmi Note 7phone.
Honestly, speed will probably feel about the same since S7 had the Snapdragon 820 processor.
Gaming performance will probably be about the same as well.
The screen isn't amoled so if that matters to you, you're probably better skipping the Redmi Note 7 and getting the Mi 8(snapdragon 845) or the newer Mi 9(snapdragon 855 with quad hd and dual speakers).
Either of those will definitely be an upgrade to your S7 in multiple ways...
Processor, functionality, performance, build quality, battery life, camera, gaming etc
Mi 8 can now be had for under $400 new as well if price matters to you

Thank you for responding.
My S7 is exynos one and I know that Mali GPU is more powerfull for gaming. S7 has à good display but it's too little and had burn in.
I want to know how is thé remdi's camera compared to S7 has a good One. My brother buyed à redmi Note 5 pro and S7 photos are much better

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achour7 said:
Thank you for responding.
My S7 is exynos one and I know that Mali GPU is more powerfull for gaming. S7 has à good display but it's too little and had burn in.
I want to know how is thé remdi's camera compared to S7 has a good One. My brother buyed à redmi Note 5 pro and S7 photos are much better
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I'm not sure... S7 photos may be a little better since it was the flagship of the year a couple years back.
If you're worried about photos, I'd get the Mi 8 or if you can afford... Skip the Xiaomi budget line altogether and go straight for the The Mi 9.
Don't get me wrong... Redmi Note 7 or it's twin brother Mi 8 Lite are both spectacular phones especially for the money to value quotient. They pack a hell of a punch and are popular globally for a reason but coming from the S7, if you're not willing to compromise a little bit in the area of video and photo quality, you're better off shopping for a Xiaomi flagship.
Either phone (Mi 8 or Mi 9) is the flagship experience you want but the Mi 9 will blow you away and be the true upgrade you're looking for

tiguy99 said:
Didn't have an S7 but did have a Note 4 Exynos and Honor 8 before I got the Redmi Note 7phone.
Honestly, speed will probably feel about the same since S7 had the Snapdragon 820 processor.
Gaming performance will probably be about the same as well.
The screen isn't amoled so if that matters to you, you're probably better skipping the Redmi Note 7 and getting the Mi 8(snapdragon 845) or the newer Mi 9(snapdragon 855 with quad hd and dual speakers).
Either of those will definitely be an upgrade to your S7 in multiple ways...
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I just got a Redmi Note 7 today, and it will replace a ZTE Axon 7 (Snapdragon 820, like the US version S7), so I'm in a similar position.
Haven't used it much yet, but initial impressions are very good. I just run some tests on both phones in Geekbench Pro, and the Redmi Note 7 won in some areas, while the Axon 7 still smoked it in some tests. You're right, the overall performance should feel pretty similar to the S7.
Benchmarks aside, I'm happy to have a new device that is fully up to date - stock Pie (that I'll dump in favor of LOS as soon as I'm able, haha), a big battery and efficient CPU, a really fast fingerprint scanner in a natural position (meaning NOT on the front), a big screen (any bigger wouldn't fit my pocket), VOLTE, a decent camera, and some support on XDA. It took me a while to decide to buy it because I was concerned about it not having an OLED screen but now I don't think it's going to be an issue - it looks good. Works with Mint Mobile (T-Mobile) here.
Only Day 1, but I'm satisfied so far, especially for $200!

RN7 is way better .. except for the sound quality and the weight (rn7 is heavy lol)

These guys have nailed it!
Think you'll be happy with the phone especially for the price.
I know I am.
Use it for a while.... If you don't like it, sell it for a more expensive flagship.
For me it's so good I don't feel the need to have a flagship phone anymore!
Just saw a review on Amazon with someone who mentioned they upgraded to the Redmi Note 7 from an S7 and raved about it.
Check out the review for the Blue 4GB RAM/64GB version.
It's one of the newer reviews.

tiguy99 said:
These guys have nailed it!
Think you'll be happy with the phone especially for the price.
I know I am.
Use it for a while.... If you don't like it, sell it for a more expensive flagship.
For me it's so good I don't feel the need to have a flagship phone anymore!
Just saw a review on Amazon with someone who mentioned they upgraded to the Redmi Note 7 from an S7 and raved about it.
Check out the review for the Blue 4GB RAM/64GB version.
It's one of the newer reviews.
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I finally replaced my S7 and for now I am completely satisfied except the camera. I will test Gcam and see the result...

chazy chaz said:
RN7 is way better .. except for the sound quality and the weight (rn7 is heavy lol)
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I got it this morning and yes, the redmi is so heavy. Sound Quality is better on xiaomi but i was using dual speaker sounds on S7 wich makes a plaisent stéréo effect. Camera is a bit better on S7 Thanks to live HDR, dual pixel technology and à good noise réduction.

That's awesome!
Can't wait until you try GCam.
Think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
Also try open camera for 4K video recording?
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I got it this morning and yes, the redmi is so heavy. Sound Quality is better on xiaomi but i was using dual speaker sounds on S7 wich makes a plaisent stéréo effect. Camera is a bit better on S7 Thanks to live HDR, dual pixel technology and à good noise réduction.
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achour7 said:
I would like to know if it's à good idea to switch from S7 to redmi note 7 And how is good thé Xiaomi in picture, screen, speakers, battery life, power compared to s7.
Thank you.
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Yes Redmi note 7 is next level in term of screen size, entertaining purpose, everyday all around. Battery life 2 days on minimal use. Picture not as good as s7 edge

I replaced Huawei P10 whit RN7 and I'm surprised how better it is comparing to P10. Screen picture quality is way better and camera whit Gcam too. P10 have Leica lense blā, blā, but I don't like Leica look and that camera overexposes picture, loses detail in texture whit smoothing, makes picture to oversaturated and colors too neutral. RN7 whit GCam is neutral, exposes good and colors are good. If You like overprocessed pictures then You might want different camera app.
P10 is not S7, but I can say this phone is good. Only complains are weight, and writing is a bit hard for Me in position as I hold the phone. Of course there is minor things like screen is a bit less bright comparing to P10, plastic body, speaker can be more clear, still usb 2.0, no nfc, no IP rating etc. If You don't want to spend alot of money on phone as I do then this is solid choice. For that extra 250€ I would spend on phone I can buy alot of different things for Me.

Both my wife and I just bought the RN7 yesterday to replace both of our S7 Edge, personally I notice the screen resolution difference between the two, I miss the notifications staying at the top, miss the app draw and the camera start up speed is a lot faster than the RN7. The main reason why we switched though is the battery life, both of ours are the US version which use the Snapdragon CPU which only give us around 4 hr SOT, and I pretty much have to charge 2 or 3 times a day (yah on my phone all day long ) , now with the RN7, without doing anything, I just got 8 hr SOT with 10% left ....so yah wire free all day and way cheaper than a flagship Samsung, I know I can get over the cons very soon.

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Both my wife and I just bought the RN7 yesterday to replace both of our S7 Edge, personally I notice the screen resolution difference between the two, I miss the notifications staying at the top, miss the app draw and the camera start up speed is a lot faster than the RN7. The main reason why we switched though is the battery life, both of ours are the US version which use the Snapdragon CPU which only give us around 4 hr SOT, and I pretty much have to charge 2 or 3 times a day (yah on my phone all day long ) , now with the RN7, without doing anything, I just got 8 hr SOT with 10% left ....so yah wire free all day and way cheaper than a flagship Samsung, I know I can get over the cons very soon.
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Plus we can help you negate some of the flaws
To get the original look with the added app drawer, install Poco Launcher from the Play Store and you're done with that part.
Screen res? Can you actually notice S7's higher pixels per inch count? Nothing to do about that though.
To overcome the lack of permanent notifications at the top, install Notch Test (Notifications for MIUI) and set up the position, give all permissions to the app, autostart, set battery restrictions to none, and lock it in the app switcher so MIUI can't kill it off. I have the icons position set to 215 from the left and 36 from the top. Works great and mitigates the issue completely (issue for those of us not coming from MIUI, accustomed to "permanent" notifications).
Camera start-up - nothing to do about that unless Xiaomi updates the firmware to do so. GCam takes even more to start, but the image it produces is more than worth the wait.

OP7 PRO - Im so happy I haven't waited and went with S10+

Hi, I decided to get back with Sammy after 3 year break. It's so good I didn't even rooted it. I paid for it 2900 in my currency. OP7Pro is 4000 of my currency. LOL What are you thoughts of the newest flagship killer compared to S10+ Do we have to be afraid of something? Don't you guys think it's a cashgrab?

Good bye s10+ hello op7 pro [emoji23]
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Some of the best specs I've seen including stereo speakers. I also like the size, but not sure ready to leave my S10+

1. No official water resistance rating
2. No wireless charging
3. No headphone jack
4. Non-expandable storage
5. Does not include earbuds or a 3.5mm audio adapter
6. Wide-angle camera falls short
7. Display is less brighter that the one on S10+. (upto 1200 nits vs 800 nits)
8. Front cam on OP is trash. No comparison to any other flagships when it comes to front cams. No secondary sensor or depth sensor. Even pixel has it, lol.
There you go. Price difference justified. When the S10+ came out, I traded my P3XL for $550 USD and got the S10+ for $486 USD (Galaxy buds free too since it was a pre-order). I went to OPs site today and went through the trade in steps, put in my IMEI in, trade in value was $640 CAD (since I have now moved to Canada). So I can get the OP 7 pro for around 480 again. Yes, feature wise price is great. BUT no thanks. S10+ is worth the price. Keeping that till the Note or next Pixel.

Aaditya91 said:
1. No official water resistance rating
2. No wireless charging
3. No headphone jack
4. Non-expandable storage
5. Does not include earbuds or a 3.5mm audio adapter
6. Wide-angle camera falls short
7. Display is less brighter that the one on S10+. (upto 1200 nits vs 800 nits)
8. Front cam on OP is trash. No comparison to any other flagships when it comes to front cams. No secondary sensor or depth sensor. Even pixel has it, lol.
There you go. Price difference justified. When the S10+ came out, I traded my P3XL for $550 USD and got the S10+ for $486 USD (Galaxy buds free too since it was a pre-order). I went to OPs site today and went through the trade in steps, put in my IMEI in, trade in value was $640 CAD (since I have now moved to Canada). So I can get the OP 7 pro for around 480 again. Yes, feature wise price is great. BUT no thanks. S10+ is worth the price. Keeping that till the Note or next Pixel.
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I'll counter for Oneplus I guess
1. Oxygen OS is leagues better than OneUI
2. Performance is a lot smoother on Oneplus
3. Samsung has incredibly slow charging speeds compared to Oneplus' wrap charging.
4. OS and Security updates are more frequent and longer support of their devices
5. Easy to Root
6. Developer friendly device
7. Bezeless screen with 90hz screen
8. UFS 3.0

Oneui
worldsoutro said:
I'll counter for Oneplus I guess
1. Oxygen OS is leagues better than OneUI
2. Performance is a lot smoother on Oneplus
3. Samsung has incredibly slow charging speeds compared to Oneplus' wrap charging.
4. OS and Security updates are more frequent and longer support of their devices
5. Easy to Root
6. Developer friendly device
7. Bezeless screen with 90hz screen
8. UFS 3.0
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Well with one ui you get every single feature that a oneplus user wants...thats why people root oneplus so that they can add the features...i dont need to root my s10 plus oneplus has the bare minimum thats why its snappy...my s10 plus has tonnes built in and its great s10 even use there own apps which is great .... btw oneplus pro 4 hours screen on time because of that 90hz you can change to 60hz but why would you its the phones best selling point..sorry i keep editing this lol... have you seen oneui ? Inside all the apps looks so much better ... and we dont need substratum either we have themes and goodlock?

worldsoutro said:
I'll counter for Oneplus I guess
1. Oxygen OS is leagues better than OneUI
2. Performance is a lot smoother on Oneplus
3. Samsung has incredibly slow charging speeds compared to Oneplus' wrap charging.
4. OS and Security updates are more frequent and longer support of their devices
5. Easy to Root
6. Developer friendly device
7. Bezeless screen with 90hz screen
8. UFS 3.0
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For the most part, you're comparing your OPINIONS to his FACTS.
You're talking about things being better, smoother, "friendly".... All of those are opinions opposed to what actually can be proven.
Me personally, I'll never buy a phone again without a headphone jack, expandable memory and an IP rating. Those 3 features, are necessities for me.

Aaditya91 said:
1. No official water resistance rating
2. No wireless charging
3. No headphone jack
4. Non-expandable storage
5. Does not include earbuds or a 3.5mm audio adapter
6. Wide-angle camera falls short
7. Display is less brighter that the one on S10+. (upto 1200 nits vs 800 nits)
8. Front cam on OP is trash. No comparison to any other flagships when it comes to front cams. No secondary sensor or depth sensor. Even pixel has it, lol.
There you go. Price difference justified. When the S10+ came out, I traded my P3XL for $550 USD and got the S10+ for $486 USD (Galaxy buds free too since it was a pre-order). I went to OPs site today and went through the trade in steps, put in my IMEI in, trade in value was $640 CAD (since I have now moved to Canada). So I can get the OP 7 pro for around 480 again. Yes, feature wise price is great. BUT no thanks. S10+ is worth the price. Keeping that till the Note or next Pixel.
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Well, the price difference is justified if all those features are important to you. Although #5-8 seem to be nit-picky for most regular users - not the XDA ones!
Me, I'm going to keep my S10+ although the 90Hz display on the OP7P sounds mighty interesting.

OP is not anymore flagship killer, just flagship without flagship features like IP, wireless charging etc With addition, OP7 camera is again joke, even bigger with actual price. They don't know make competitive camera with actual flagships. I'm pretty happy with my regular S10 and looking forward for Pixel 4, S11, Mi10 and so on
90Hz on AMOLED and UFS3.0, that's all. Exynos except GPU is more powerful than Snapdragon in raw power

I have had a few OP devices and besides the phone`s speed there is nothing that is better then a Galaxy S device. Costumer service and support is bad and once the phone is unpacked its value decreases about half of what was paid. Overall i think the quality and support (regular updates) of Samsung is better then what OP offers. Just my 2 cents

If i still had my s8 and op7 pro or s10 was a choice I would go with s10 BECAUSE OF WIRELESS CHARGING, IP rating and some other smaller things

Like the op7 pro but would not give up my s10 for it but I am jealous of the 90hz screen tbh.

Since the oneplus 7 pro is a flagship phone I don't really the value with all those trade-offs. I might consider it if it were subsidised but in Canada no company will carry so for a starting price of 1000$ I just don't see the value tbh.
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I can add that there are some things like offscreen gestures that I miss from OP devices. But for me the best thing in S10 is..... One handed mode with a gesture. It's been there isnce what ? S6? OP7P has bigger screen but try using it while on the bike.

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Since the oneplus 7 pro is a flagship phone I don't really the value with all those trade-offs. I might consider it if it were subsidised but in Canada no company will carry so for a starting price of 1000$ I just don't see the value tbh.
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Very hard to justify that kind of price when its missing some key features and the camera is still not even near the same league as galaxys and pixels . It will likely get better with updates but still for $1100 its got some serious ground to make up.

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Very hard to justify that kind of price when its missing some key features and the camera is still not even near the same league as galaxys and pixels . It will likely get better with updates but still for $1100 its got some serious ground to make up.
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IKR! I think oneplus is on some Icarus trip right now. Flying way to close to the sun. They were such a great value proposition now they're just a one trick poney. Great screen. It's probably still the fastest Android phone around but marginally at best.

Isn't regular fast charging meant to be detrimental to battery life?

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I have had a few OP devices and besides the phone`s speed there is nothing that is better then a Galaxy S device. Costumer service and support is bad and once the phone is unpacked its value decreases about half of what was paid. Overall i think the quality and support (regular updates) of Samsung is better then what OP offers. Just my 2 cents
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Not true at all...I paid 650 for 6t and sold it five months later for 525. You call that 50%?
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Isn't regular fast charging meant to be detrimental to battery life?
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That is a myth. No.

I traded my tmobile branded op7pro for my unlocked S10plus.... I love this phone and I have the exynos version witch I'm rooted already, the only thing I can say about the op7pro is the refresh rate speed and is not that of huge thing. The camera of the op7pro is way better then before but can't compare... And battery life is not that great I tried a day with 90hz and a day with 60hz, the design of the op7pro is meh like it felt I had a galaxy s7 edge. When I got the s10 plus I was worried about the hole but I Dont even notice it and battery life on the s10plus its insane.
Then there's value where I'm from I can get a basically new op6t for $250,when the op6t was released I bought one for $340 there where tmobile version but since you can convert them there where worth it... And the op7pro tmobile version is already being sold for $600. Oneplus it's no good for resale. Samsung is.
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Not true at all...I paid 650 for 6t and sold it five months later for 525. You call that 50%?
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That is a myth. No.
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The price drop my vary from region,because in my country is true... Right know you can get a op6t for $300 and $250

I just went to my local T-Mobile for T-Mobile Tuesday and looked at the OnePlus 7 Pro and did a side by side comparison with my S10+ and the OnePlus 7 Pro was definitely brighter than my S10+ and my device is on High Performance and Vivid. Does the 7 Pro have more Nits than the S10+?