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Is it possible when i have a rom and there is updatet version to build a ota out of it? that everybody who wanna download only has to download ota and all is good. Would make some roms more attractiv. In my case i only have the traffic of my mobile provider and i only have 3gb of free traffic.
And when somebody tells me how it works i would make some ota for my favorite roms.
Best regards vision03.
vision03 said:
Is it possible when i have a rom and there is updatet version to build a ota out of it? that everybody who wanna download only has to download ota and all is good. Would make some roms more attractiv. In my case i only have the traffic of my mobile provider and i only have 3gb of free traffic.
And when somebody tells me how it works i would make some ota for my favorite roms.
Best regards vision03.
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Yes that's possible, there even devs that update there rom when there is a new kernel. Back in the days when I flashed with my Xperia x10 that was always the case. Just flash a update. Not possible if it's a whole new base/different firmware.
Would be nice if devs do that. So I can download it on 3g.
Good point this thread.
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For example. Jamals google rom is not a complete new system coming from v1 final to v2.2 final. There have been added missing files and have been fixed some problems. How do devs fix problems. They change some lines in existing files. So it would be possible only to change this files.
Also coming from x10 and therefore wolfbreak also offers ota updates for his roms.
So it also should be also possible for our sammy phone. And sorry that i say something like that. Sammy also provides ota updates for nearly every update. Also in case of a complete system update so i can't see why it is not possible for costum roms.
Is there anywhere a how to of making ota files that i could test this. I think a rom would be much more attractiv for a bigger community if there are ota files.
Best regards vision03.
No one a tip for me?
The stable Android Marshmallow 6.0.1 - firmware 1.1.47 update is officially being released Over-The-Air (OTA) starting from 29 March 2017 in the afternoon, here is the announce on the YotaPhone VK page.
Moreover, the main improvements are listed in this official 4pda post by the company YotaDevices. Main changelog can be found in the attachments, but many other new features are explained in the YotaHelp app within MM.
The update will initially arrive by OTA to those with latest RU 134 firmware, later it should be available also on the FTP YotaDevices' server. In the future it will be pushed also to EU firmwares. Keep in mind that for a succesful OTA installation, the phone must be stock, with no /system partition modifications and stock recovery. Root will be lost after the update. As this is a major update, as for every Android phone a clean start is recommended (factory reset). It is not necessary, by the way, things can work fluently even without it.
Found a bug? The company YotaDevices explicitly asked to kindly send them your findings if you wish to help, let's see how.
Find out if the bug is reproducible and notice what are the phone's settings and configuration to make this bug happen;
A useful app for bug reports is this one;
Provide as much detail as you can, with your phone specifications, firmware, version, etc;
To generate bug reports, also the command adb bugreport bugreport.zip can be used while the device is attached to PC with ADB enabled;
If you can't handle native bug report funcion, just provide as much information as you can, maybe with some screenshots;
Send everything to [email protected]
As it is taking a lot of time to update due to many requests handled by their servers, unkernet uploaded the MM update 147. I will attach .torrent files in this post, one is FULL FOTA and another one is OTA from RU 134 to MM. Here there is another mirror for FULL FOTA: GDrive. These files can be pushed manually into the phone (sideloaded) with adb using stock/TWRP recovery (even if sometimes there are errors with custom recoveries such as TWRP). This procedure brings to identical results as an OTA has been installed automatically. Just go into recovery (VOL UP + POWER), select apply update from ADB, connect the phone to PC and with a command prompt opened where adb.exe and the FOTA.zip are located, type: adb devices, which should return a value, then adb sideload FOTA.zip.
How to adb sideload an update (no data loss) @hpnhannghia created a video-guide to update to latest MM build starting from latest RU Lollipop 134, using adb sideload. If you find it useful, you may thank him in this post.
BETA-PROGRAM DETAILS ARE HIDED IN THE SPOILER BELOW, AS THEY ARE NO LONGER RELEVANT.
UPDATE 20/12/16: BETA-TESTING APPLICATIONS ARE NO LONGER ACCEPTED.
As of now the LATEST OFFICIAL MM BETA is 1.1.31. Download links and instructions are in the OP. The 1.1.43 is leaked and YotaDevices said that it is UNSTABLE.
The beta-testing program for Android Marshmallow has begun! The announcement was made officialy by the user YotaDevices on 4pda.ru.
First of all I would like to thank the user @Amplificator who pointed it out here
I will translate and put the announcement below in the spoiler:
Dear friends!
On the eve of one of the most magical and wonderful festivities, our team wants to offer YotaPhone 2 users to participate in the beta testing of a new firmware for the transition to Android 6.0 (Marshmallow) operating system.
You will be able to experience Android 6.0 in action with several new features, and in return we ask you to share with us your comments and suggestions. As part of the beta test on YotaPhone 2 will be sent to upgrade to Android M. But before you decide to participate, please read the instructions below.
The updates that you receive as part of the beta version, may contain errors or defects that significantly affect the operation of the device.
You can always choose from and return to stable public version of the firmware running Android 5.0 Lollipop. However, if your smartphone has already installed a beta version of Android M, then during the rollback, all user data will be deleted permanently.
Participation in the beta available to users who bought YotaPhone 2 on the territory of Russia (in the online shop or at official points). Smartphones currently RU1.1.134 firmware version must be installed.
The beta-version of the firmware on China Yotaphone2 (Model YD206) could be installed incorrectly or with errors. In this case, we are not responsible for the performance of the whole system, so we do not recommend to the users of this model to participate in the test program.
In order to examine your applications to partecipate to the program we need the following information:
IMEI ( "Settings" -> "About phone" -> "General" -> IMEI);
A screenshot of the settings in the "About phone", namely the points "firmware communication module," "kernel version" "Build Number";
Contact information (name, email address, phone number).
Please send the info above with a personal message to the representative of YD 4PDA: YotaDevices
__________end of announcement __________
SENDING FEEDBACK TO YOTA-DEVICES: If you have found a bug that just happened or you can even reproduce it, you can send bug reports here: [email protected] with the function "send bug report" which can be found the Developers option in the Settings. You have to click that function no more than 15minutes as a bug has occurred, and in the email specify as better as possible what you've done to reproduce it, and write your IMEI. [Before sending reports, a clean installation of the latest beta is advised, that is, flashing the latest FOTA and then doing data/dalvik/cache wipes.]
For general support and feature request any YotaPhone user can write to: [email protected]
UPDATE 23/12/16: FOTA OF LATEST BETA VERSION 1.1.28, TO BE INSTALLED STARTING FROM 5.0 RU .134: need to be sideloaded (adb sideload filename.zip) using stock recovery. Download here.
Credits to 4pda user kosvas
UPDATE 25/12/16: TWRP BACKUP OF BETA 6.0.1 firmware 1.1.28: Download link. Unzip it and put the folder into your personal TWRP backup folder, which name is alfanumeric (for example: 025e8b1302684091f). You can find it in your phone: TWRP/BACKUPS/*******. You already have this folder if you created a backup with TWRP in the past. If not, just enter TWRP and create a small backup (of just one partition for example), thus TWRP will create the folder you need. Inside this alfanumeric folder you will put the downloaded file.
Source and credits this 4pda post.
UPDATE 29/12/16: TWRP BACKUP OF BETA 6.0.1 firmware 1.1.30: Download link see instruction above. Source and credits this 4pda post.
Moreover, here there's the OTA 1.1.30 with must be applied from 1.1.28 with stock recovery using adb sideload (you must be unrooted). For your convenience there's also a full FOTA Marshmallow 1.1.28 here which must be used from latest 4.x RU Android version. Source and credits this 4pda post.
UPDATE 10/01/17: FULL ZIP OF BETA 1.1.31: It has to be installed on stock ROM without modifications, using the stock recovery and adb sideload command. link here: FOTA MM. Source: 4pda post The incremental update (from 1.1.30 to 1.1.31) has not been uploaded by anyone, at the moment.
You can use any method you want between these two: adb sideloading the official FOTA with stock recovery OR restoring a clean TWRP backup created by beta-testers.
UPDATE 03/03/17: OTA ZIP of LEAKED 1.1.43: This OTA package has been received by mistake by one of 4pda user, Kazus48; YotaDevices replied saying that this version won't be available to beta-testers due to its instability. Nevertheless, it has been extracted and uploaded by welser. I repeat that installing this OTA is not advised by YotaDevices, do it at your own risk, as it is an internal build. You can find it here: sideload it with stock recovery above 134 Lollipop.
When the beta-program will end the official marshmallow release will be available initially by OTA to any YotaPhone2 with latest RU and EU firmware (no matter which radio or which model (YD201 or YD206).
Take a look at this post to have a brief review of the MM update and to see also some screenshots.
Step-by-step procedure to install a TWRP backup file linked in the OP: Post#113
Complementary information: All-in-One Guide for YotaPhone 2 where every modification to the phone is explained and every aspects covered, a MUST-READ before asking questions: YotaPhone 2 Info
TheArt. said:
Epic news guys!
The beta-testing program for Android Marshmellow has begun! The announcement was made officialy by the user YotaDevices on 4pda.ru.
First of all I would like to thank the user @Amplificator who pointed it out here
I will translate the announcement below:
Dear friends!
On the eve of one of the most magical and wonderful festivities, our team wants to offer YotaPhone 2 users to participate in the beta testing of a new firmware for the transition to Android 6.0 (Marshmallow) operating system.
You will be able to experience Android 6.0 in action with several new features, and in return we ask you to share with us your comments and suggestions. As part of the beta test on YotaPhone 2 will be sent to upgrade to Android M. But before you decide to participate, please read the instructions below.
The updates that you receive as part of the beta version, may contain errors or defects that significantly affect the operation of the device.
You can always choose from and return to stable public version of the firmware running Android 5.0 Lollipop. However, if your smartphone has already installed a beta version of Android M, then during the rollback, all user data will be deleted permanently.
Participation in the beta available to users who bought YotaPhone 2 on the territory of Russia (in the online shop or at official points). Smartphones currently RU1.1.134 firmware version must be installed.
The beta-version of the firmware on China Yotaphone2 (Model YD206) could be installed incorrectly or with errors. In this case, we are not responsible for the performance of the whole system, so we do not recommend to the users of this model to participate in the test program.
In order to examine your applications to partecipate to the program we need the following information:
IMEI ( "Settings" -> "About phone" -> "General" -> IMEI);
A screenshot of the settings in the "About phone", namely the points "firmware communication module," "kernel version" "Build Number";
Contact information (name, email address, phone number).
Please send the info above with a personal message to the representative of YD 4PDA: YotaDevices
Source
If you have troubles with Russian language ask here, I'm russian
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That's awesome news for us! I am up for testing the beta version. But where do I find his email address??
Same here, realy want to beta test but don't read russian at all (have 201 yota on 1.134ru firmware)
paulzhere said:
That's awesome news for us! I am up for testing the beta version. But where do I find his email address??
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Same here, realy want to beta test but don't read russian at all (have 201 yota on 1.134ru firmware)
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There is no e-mail address, you eighter make a post on that thread with the information (not suggested because you expose your IMEI), or send a private message to the user YotaDevices.
If you don't want to register to 4pda.ru, you may send me a PM here with your info and I'll send it to YotaDevices on 4pda via private message, it could be a solution. If you get involved, you will receive via OTA the beta-update.
In my case I can't partecipate because I've a YD206.
Still need to translate, I guess, but here is post about new beta 6.0.1 with link for download and instructions: 4pda - Andoid M
And here is the post with TWRP backup and with OTA version for loading through adb sideload
Now that is excellent news. Any reports yet - does it work, or is it as flawed as the Android 5.1 upgrade? I would need safetynet to pass and YotaMirror to work, plus the usual stuff (Google Play Store etc).
First impressions: seems very fast and smooth :good:
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First impressions: seems very fast and smooth :good:
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seems cool, do you install it with ota update of the russian forum ? (how ? ^^)
thanks
Guest007 said:
Still need to translate, I guess, but here is post about new beta 6.0.1 with link for download and instructions: 4pda - Andoid M
And here is the post with TWRP backup and with OTA version for loading through adb sideload
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I may add this in the OP if it's ok for you.
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I may add this in the OP if it's ok for you.
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Of cource. Thank you
Hey OP could you translate this please. I think it tells us about bugs but Google translate is terrible.
Сборка предназначена исключительно для внутреннего тестирования, и имеет недоработки, связанные со вторым экраном, а именно:
1) Мало виджетов
2) Кривой YotaMirror
3) Баги с перерисовкой изображения на ВВЭ.
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First impressions: seems very fast and smooth :good:
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Hi , thank you for sharing the first impressions, how is the backscreen working with version 6.0 and battery life ?
Thanks
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Hi , thank you for sharing the first impressions, how is the backscreen working with version 6.0 and battery life ?
Thanks
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In post #11 the three issues concern the second screen:
1. few widgets
2.displaying "crooked" image on the EPD display when mirrored
3.buggy drawings on the EPD
nothing mentioned about battery
Oh thanks for the translate. On the 4pda thread, using google translate, it said the system was smoother and faster. Animations are very smooth no lag and that heating issues are significantly less then lollipop update and that it was suitable for everyday use.
I'm going to try update to marshmallow but I may need to install twrp or something since I get the E: Cannot load volume /misc! when sideloading but that's probably because i flashed twrp before.
Any tips on how to fix the error? I'm gonna try use yotaflasher then ota update to 1.134 then sideload marshmallow. That should work right?
i still have 5.1 and it has a few bugs like random black screen on the e-paper display, mediocre battery life and sometimes the keyboard won't type anything
Does 6.0 fix some of these?
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Oh thanks for the translate. On the 4pda thread, using google translate, it said the system was smoother and faster. Animations are very smooth no lag and that heating issues are significantly less then lollipop update and that it was suitable for everyday use.
I'm going to try update to marshmallow but I may need to install twrp or something since I get the E: Cannot load volume /misc! when sideloading but that's probably because i flashed twrp before.
Any tips on how to fix the error? I'm gonna try use yotaflasher then ota update to 1.134 then sideload marshmallow. That should work right?
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Yes it does say that the update runs very smooth with no lag, but there are couple of things that have to be be done, before trying to flash to MM:
The phone battery should be no less then 80% charged
ROOT has to be removed, and the recovery has to be STOCK one.
that`s what it says about upgrading to MM on the 4pda site
So if I use that twrp backup will I keep root/xposed/everything I have on my phone?
but how to flash this guys? it is same as we flash lollipop frmware using yotaflasher or like somthing like recovery.. ?
im on RU1.1.134 firmware..
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Yes it does say that the update runs very smooth with no lag, but there are couple of things that have to be be done, before trying to flash to MM:
The phone battery should be no less then 80% charged
ROOT has to be removed, and the recovery has to be STOCK one.
that`s what it says about upgrading to MM on the 4pda site
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Yeah that's what I thought I flashed 5.0.0-RU1.1.124 using yotaflasher and downloading the 1.134 OTA now. After that I'll sideload the marshmallow update and hopefully that works. I'll post and let people here know if it works or not.
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So if I use that twrp backup will I keep root/xposed/everything I have on my phone?
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I'm not sure but i'd recommend wiping before updating considering you have root & xposed that'll probably mess with the update and might cause crashes.
Dahlan abdullah said:
but how to flash this guys? it is same as we flash lollipop frmware using yotaflasher or like somthing like recovery.. ?
im on RU1.1.134 firmware..
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The following are not my instructions. They are taken from the Russian forum at 4pda and are written by "AlexRUS72" so all credit goes to him. I just tried to help with the translation.
After you have latest RUS firmware and you have stock recovery without ROOT and battery charged to at least to 80% you do the following:
1.rename the downloaded file to "yotaphone2.zip" there is a link to the file. (You should have it if you ask how to flash it )
2.put the "yotaphone2.zip" in your working directory where Adb And Fastboot files are
3.turn off the phone
4.you power on the phone by pressing volume up+power buttons and holding it until you enter recovery
5.then connect the phone with the USB cable
6.start Minimal ADB and Fastboot
7.from the recovery menu choose "apply update from ADB"
8.on the PC type "adb sideload yotaphone2.zip" and wait.........
The process takes almost twice the time it takes to flash 5-th version! You have to watch the phone screen for errors. If you see an error that means that it`s not going to work!
And one more time: nobody will be responsible for your actions! You do everything at your own risk!
Got my Mix yesterday - set it up last night.
I was apprehensive with everyone talking about different ROMs, unlock codes, rooting, throttling, etc etc.
Mine came with MIUI Global 8.0.7.0.0 with Google appstore already installed. The packaging was sealed.
Downloaded apps at about 3.5 megabytes per second (as shown by the notification bar connection speed widget).
SMS works fine.
Calling works fine.
I even get 4G on O2 (in the UK). I live in Leeds so it's one of those cities where O2 are using 1800 mhz for 4G as well as the usual 800 Mhz which Mix can't do.
All my banking apps work fine.
I've got Nova Prime on it. MIUI has some nice tweaks built in. There's no bloatware on it at all.
Also, compared to the Lumia 950XL I had for a year, it's about 2 mm wider and that's about it.
I've been using an S7 Edge for the last couple of months and set up wise, there's no difference. Everything just works out of the box. No flashing, tweaking, rooting etc.
Fingerprint reader is faster than S7. It can also wake the phone as well. Double tap to wake is there too.
If I didn't know better, I'd say this was just any other Android phone bought in the UK, instead of a China import where people have been talking about flashing EU ROM etc and having other issues.
Funniest thing about it is that once you get over the initial WOW factor of the screen, you just get used to it. It's only when you look at other phones you think, haha your phone looks like it's from the 1970s.
Only thing I haven't really tried is the camera. Pretty sure it won't be up to 950XL or S7 standards but I've installed Snap Camera so let's see if it's half decent.
Great phone so far.
Just depends if your happy with vendor rom and no updates as long as you own the phone, I removed vendor rom and have had 2 updates since with like yourself no issues.
Where did you get your Mix? Mine also had that ROM but I flashed the China ROM since it wasn't getting OTA updates. Your Mix might be fine for now but I hear the spyware/malware stuff works like a trojan horse, I'd recommend flashing now, your bootloader is probably already unlocked. Just install the China ROM and skip the EU ROM or rooting if you want.
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Where did you get your Mix? Mine also had that ROM but I flashed the China ROM since it wasn't getting OTA updates. Your Mix might be fine for now but I hear the spyware/malware stuff works like a trojan horse, I'd recommend flashing now, your bootloader is probably already unlocked. Just install the China ROM and skip the EU ROM or rooting if you want.
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Agreed and I skipped rooting and EU (for now)
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Agreed and I skipped rooting and EU (for now)
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I'm really confused now.
I thought my Global 8.0.7 ROM was the 'normal' China ROM.
Is it a VENDOR ROM? Is it obvious because it came with Gapps installed?
Also, how do you know this has malware on it? Kaspersky doesn't find anything on it.
Anyway, I better flash the official China ROM now - the EU one sounds more suitable (since I'm in the UK) but it's not official is it so ANYTHING might be in that.
Thanks.
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I'm really confused now.
I thought my Global 8.0.7 ROM was the 'normal' China ROM.
Is it a VENDOR ROM? Is it obvious because it came with Gapps installed?
Also, how do you know this has malware on it? Kaspersky doesn't find anything on it.
Anyway, I better flash the official China ROM now - the EU one sounds more suitable (since I'm in the UK) but it's not official is it so ANYTHING might be in that.
Thanks.
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Don't think they do put spyware on never found anything, no updates is the killer for me, they probably aren't allowed to mess with official ROM and keep the same numbers plus updates would probably mess up Google apps.
I went with stable China as it has English language and didn't want to TWRP at the moment. OTA updates aren't available on EU ROM ATM although first custom ROM is out with OTA based on EU ROM see forum. I installed Google apps from the mi store with no issues once all permissions were granted.
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Don't think they do put spyware on never found anything, no updates is the killer for me
I went with stable China as it has English language and didn't want to TWRP at the moment. OTA updates aren't available on EU ROM ATM although first custom ROM is out with OTA based on EU ROM see forum.
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OK, so this ROM I have is some sort of weird ROM put on by Gearbest (where I got it from). Who developed it and has it been confirmed that there is malware on it?
Reading up on it, I can see how to install: China stable V8.0.12.0.MAHCNDI
Download ROM. Copy to root directory of phone.
Go into Settings/updates/reboot to recovery mode and install the Zip.
Is that right? Since it's not an update, do I have to wipe the phone in recovery?
I'm a bit loathed to do it cos:
a) This is a rather expensive phone from China which makes it a bit hairy. I've flashed ROMs on cheaper devices before but...
b) It's currently running dandy.. everything is fast and smooth and everything WORKS but this thing about spyware and malware I find worrying (even tho I can't seem to find any proof of this.) But yeah, lack of updates is a problem.
Does anyone have a link on an idiots guide on how to go from Vendor to China Stable Official?
There's a thread on this forum about this but it kinda says you need TWRP and Root etc.
If I put China Stable, do I need to root it to put on Gapps?
Will China ROM stop my banking apps to work?
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Don't think they do put spyware on never found anything, no updates is the killer for me, they probably aren't allowed to mess with official ROM and keep the same numbers plus updates would probably mess up Google apps.
I went with stable China as it has English language and didn't want to TWRP at the moment. OTA updates aren't available on EU ROM ATM although first custom ROM is out with OTA based on EU ROM see forum. I installed Google apps from the mi store with no issues once all permissions were granted.
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Another question... since I have the Vendor ROM on it, does it mean that my bootloader is unlocked already?
Hid Sugiura said:
Another question... since I have the Vendor ROM on it, does it mean that my bootloader is unlocked already?
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The updater app has been disabled on this ROM, there is a guide (under guides) how to flash from vendor rom to China stable mine came from gearbest and was unlocked. No need TWRP or root. No rush your home won't set on fire with vendor rom just read a few times till you are sure of what you are doing. mi flash is used for flashing ROMs with xiaomi.
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I'm really confused now.
I thought my Global 8.0.7 ROM was the 'normal' China ROM.
Is it a VENDOR ROM? Is it obvious because it came with Gapps installed?
Also, how do you know this has malware on it? Kaspersky doesn't find anything on it.
Anyway, I better flash the official China ROM now - the EU one sounds more suitable (since I'm in the UK) but it's not official is it so ANYTHING might be in that.
Thanks.
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If you use Malwarebytes on the Vendor ROM, it flags the MIUI Notes app as "Agent.downloader.Trojan". Check it out! I didn't even sign in on the phone until I could get the EU ROM flashed. Not saying that Vendors deliberately inject their ROMS with malware. Just saying there can always be that one hacker dude who is compiling these ROMS for the vendors.
From what it looks like, most vendors are given a flashable signed zip file that can be flashed using official recovery, the file is named MIUI Global 8.0.7.0 or 8.0.8.0 (Mine came with 8.0.8.0).
So when most vendors receive stock, guess they unbox it, flash this zip file most probably via the official MIUI recovery, run the diagnostic test and if everything passes, they box the item and ship it out. Most vendors may have staff who are trained to copy the flashable zip file via MTP, boot stock recovery and flash! It doesn't take a genius to do that and its done it 5 minutes.
I am on the EU ROM. Even though unofficial, these MIUI EU ROMS have been there since the beginning of MIUI and no one ever had any reliability issues with the EU ROM. The ROM has no bloatware and comes with GAPPS pre-installed.
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Another question... since I have the Vendor ROM on it, does it mean that my bootloader is unlocked already?
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Not necessarily! Mine came with a vendor ROM and bootloader locked. This is why I assume that Vendors are given a Signed ROM file which can be flashed using the official MI Recovery. I don' t think every vendor has the skills to unlock bootloader and flash a vendor ROM after installing a custom recovery. Its a time consuming process.
If they already have a Signed customized ROM file that can be flashed using the official recovery, its as easy as copying the ZIP file to the phone and flashing it via the recovery. Takes hardly 5-10minutes.
Thank you very much for your replies - much appreciated.
As soon as I read your post, I did Malwarebytes and that found nothing - apart from saying I should switch off NFC so that's a little more comforting. As I said, Kaspersky hasn't found anything.
So, the China Stable is the ONLY official ROM there is - the vendor and EU ones are equally unofficial and neither have OTA updates.
OK more questions:
Some people say China Stable is the way to go cos of the updates.
1) Is the bloatware that bad? Can't I just ignore it? haha
2) Does it need rooting to put Gapps on it? Rooting is a no no for me cos certain apps won't run with it.
If I go the EU ROM, cos of the built in Gapps, can it be updated without wiping every time?
Thanks for all your help.
Hid Sugiura said:
Thank you very much for your replies - much appreciated.
As soon as I read your post, I did Malwarebytes and that found nothing - apart from saying I should switch off NFC so that's a little more comforting. As I said, Kaspersky hasn't found anything.
So, the China Stable is the ONLY official ROM there is - the vendor and EU ones are equally unofficial and neither have OTA updates.
OK more questions:
Some people say China Stable is the way to go cos of the updates.
1) Is the bloatware that bad? Can't I just ignore it? haha
2) Does it need rooting to put Gapps on it? Rooting is a no no for me cos certain apps won't run with it.
If I go the EU ROM, cos of the built in Gapps, can it be updated without wiping every time?
Thanks for all your help.
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You should go with EU rom, or custom rom which is starting to appear now. The worst rom to go for imo is the China one, and I find it a bit strange some people want to go for that due to OTA update. OTA update is not such a big deal, you get more update with EU or custom rom and no, you don't need to wipe data, it is so simple and easy to do manual update.
If you are totally beginner then maybe you find the OTA update easier, but at the same time if you are totally beginner you will find it hard to get china rom to become stable and usable. By the way the new custom rom also has OTA update, if you really want that.
So in short, I see almost no reason to stay in China rom, unless you find selecting zip file and flashing rom "too hard". But it's really quite easy to learn.
Mine from gearbest has unlocked bootloader but slightly different number than yours 8.0.8, it's easy to check from fastboot plenty of threads on here.
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satishp said:
If you use Malwarebytes on the Vendor ROM, it flags the MIUI Notes app as "Agent.downloader.Trojan". Check it out! I didn't even sign in on the phone until I could get the EU ROM flashed. Not saying that Vendors deliberately inject their ROMS with malware. Just saying there can always be that one hacker dude who is compiling these ROMS for the vendors.
From what it looks like, most vendors are given a flashable signed zip file that can be flashed using official recovery, the file is named MIUI Global 8.0.7.0 or 8.0.8.0 (Mine came with 8.0.8.0).
So when most vendors receive stock, guess they unbox it, flash this zip file most probably via the official MIUI recovery, run the diagnostic test and if everything passes, they box the item and ship it out. Most vendors may have staff who are trained to copy the flashable zip file via MTP, boot stock recovery and flash! It doesn't take a genius to do that and its done it 5 minutes.
I am on the EU ROM. Even though unofficial, these MIUI EU ROMS have been there since the beginning of MIUI and no one ever had any reliability issues with the EU ROM. The ROM has no bloatware and comes with GAPPS pre-installed.
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Not necessarily! Mine came with a vendor ROM and bootloader locked. This is why I assume that Vendors are given a Signed ROM file which can be flashed using the official MI Recovery. I don' t think every vendor has the skills to unlock bootloader and flash a vendor ROM after installing a custom recovery. Its a time consuming process.
If they already have a Signed customized ROM file that can be flashed using the official recovery, its as easy as copying the ZIP file to the phone and flashing it via the recovery. Takes hardly 5-10minutes.
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Xiaomi hate vendor ROMs that's why they lock bootloader, no one wants a bad name with spyware installed on their phones.
RIGHT! Thank you again for all your replies and advice.
I'm gonna do:
1) Find out if it's unlocked and get that done if necessary.
2) Install the EU one knowing now that updates don't wipe the phone.
My fear is that somewhere in between having an unlocked bootloader (which I might have already) and having the EU ROM, I lose the ability to use my Barclays Banking apps. I definitely know that it won't work with root but I also know that unlocked bootloaders and custom ROMs aren't the same as being rooted.
However, the fear of this vendor ROM being a security hazard gives me the heebie jeebies so I'll follow the kind advice given and put on the EU ROM.
Thanks for now!
Hid Sugiura said:
RIGHT! Thank you again for all your replies and advice.
I'm gonna do:
1) Find out if it's unlocked and get that done if necessary.
2) Install the EU one knowing now that updates don't wipe the phone.
My fear is that somewhere in between having an unlocked bootloader (which I might have already) and having the EU ROM, I lose the ability to use my Barclays Banking apps. I definitely know that it won't work with root but I also know that unlocked bootloaders and custom ROMs aren't the same as being rooted.
However, the fear of this vendor ROM being a security hazard gives me the heebie jeebies so I'll follow the kind advice given and put on the EU ROM.
Thanks for now!
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Good luck! Just to let you know i am on EU ROM with bootloader unlocked and rooted, i can still use Paypal and HSBC Banking apps. I don't use Barclays so can't comment on that.
OK I'm following the guide on XDA under Guides: Guide: Flash Global/China ROM.
I've checked that the bootloader is unlocked - which it is.
I've done point 7:
copy the latest xiaomi.eu rom zip to your device (which you can see in your computer's explorer as a device)
But when I use the command to get the phone into TWRP, the screen is unresponsive so I can't Swipe to Unlock.
I've waited for minutes as suggested on other sites but to no avail.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
Hid Sugiura said:
OK I'm following the guide on XDA under Guides: Guide: Flash Global/China ROM.
I've checked that the bootloader is unlocked - which it is.
I've done point 7:
copy the latest xiaomi.eu rom zip to your device (which you can see in your computer's explorer as a device)
But when I use the command to get the phone into TWRP, the screen is unresponsive so I can't Swipe to Unlock.
I've waited for minutes as suggested on other sites but to no avail.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
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If you don't root remember to flash dm-verify before you boot phone or will boot loop. TWRP unresponsive is known have a search
Again, thanks for helping me.
So, found the right TWRP for my phone. For others having the same non-responsive screen, don't install the TWRP that has RC1 or RC2 EU in the file name.
Thanks to the guy above for telling me to install dm-verity before rebooting. I would never have known that.
It installed - but there was a slight strangeness.
I expected the phone to be totally wiped and set to default but everything was as I had set it.
I checked the About Phone and it is now MIUI 8.2 by xiaomi.eu 6.12.29 Beta.
Everything works and is set up as before when I was on Vendor Rom.
Am I safer now?
Hid Sugiura said:
Again, thanks for helping me.
So, found the right TWRP for my phone. For others having the same non-responsive screen, don't install the TWRP that has RC1 or RC2 EU in the file name.
Thanks to the guy above for telling me to install dm-verity before rebooting. I would never have known that.
It installed - but there was a slight strangeness.
I expected the phone to be totally wiped and set to default but everything was as I had set it.
I checked the About Phone and it is now MIUI 8.2 by xiaomi.eu 6.12.29 Beta.
Everything works and is set up as before when I was on Vendor Rom.
Am I safer now?
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It was fate TWRP failed, could of been in a whole heap trouble, although not to the point of brick
Good stuff that you managed to get the EU ROM on. You didn't actually need to install TWRP if you just wanted to flash the China ROM though, EDL mode with the stock image on full clear would've been fine but don't worry about it. Gearbest get their stock from other suppliers who are the ones that put the vendor ROM on apparently, but I can't confirm that.
A good order to do things if you've identified you have a vendor ROM would be:
Flash the China ROM with EDL mode with the flash tool set to Flash all (using other options will keep your apps and settings on the vendor ROM but I have no idea if that means it'll keep any trojans or spyware installed)
Boot up the phone and set it up
If you're happy with the China ROM then call it a day then optionally use the Google Installer v2 from the Xiaomi forums if you need GApps (you may have to tinker with the GApps permissions if some things aren't syncing right).
If not then you could flash twrp-3.0.2-0-rc2-eu-lithium.img, flash on the EU ROM and optionally SuperSU for root and also optionally Xposed, then enjoy a preconfigured GApps with no Chinese apps that you aren't too likely to use plus extra languages!
If you are rooted then I'd recommend adding the following line in your build.prop to enable the Camera2 API:
Code:
persist.camera.HAL3.enabled=1
Personally, I'm still waiting on a CM port though, MIUI is too aggressive in killing my apps even though I have like 4.2 GB of RAM free even with all the relevant power settings, app settings, app locks, dev settings etc off. Android Wear functions better after disabling those power settings at least, I sat there scratching my head for a while wondering why the heck my watch wasn't showing any notifications.
HI,
I haven't been on here for years. Anyway, is there a way we can flash our phones to the most recent OS?
I've tried researching on here but didn't find anything. Thanks in advance.
The simple answer is no. Even though Android Oreo (8.0) has been officially released by Google it was only for the Pixel and Nexus Phones. Phone like the Essential made by other OEMs won't get the update until that manufacturer makes a officially ROM for their phone using the Android O code from Google. Hopefully since Essential uses the barbones stock Android ROM it won't take long for them to push out an 8.0 update. Another way to get 8.0 early would be to install a custom ROM built from O open source code from Google. And since we don't don't have kernel /source code from Essential yet and for that matter even TWRP custom recovery, it will be a little bit until we see custom Roms. Hopefully though Essential will either push out an update soon or release source code for the stock rom. Until that happens there will be no Android O. Sounds like we'll all just be patiently waiting to find out what happens in time.
I was basically wondering if yall could put me onto roms which are 8.1 oreo based but which are still updated regularly for example like the Lineage OS 15.1 roms. Also I had a question about vendor images, from what I understand these are where the security updates and that stuff is stored, would it be possible to somehow use different vendor images with more recent updates on older roms which come with older versions, would it be possible to restore a newer vendor image using TWRP recovery or something like that on an older rom?
Thanks yall.
TaZeR369 said:
I was basically wondering if yall could put me onto roms which are 8.1 oreo based but which are still updated regularly for example like the Lineage OS 15.1 roms. Also I had a question about vendor images, from what I understand these are where the security updates and that stuff is stored, would it be possible to somehow use different vendor images with more recent updates on older roms which come with older versions, would it be possible to restore a newer vendor image using TWRP recovery or something like that on an older rom?
Thanks yall.
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Security updates are not stored on the vendor. If that was the case even los wouldn't be able to apply security updates then, AFAIK they are kernel based. The only 8.1 ROM still being up date is los which you already know.
Oh I see that makes sense. I guess back porting security fixes to older ROMs is a lot of hard work then I won't even bother.
TaZeR369 said:
Oh I see that makes sense. I guess back porting security fixes to older ROMs is a lot of hard work then I won't even bother.
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I've never even heard of anyone trying this. You wouldn't "back port security updates" you would take the most current ROM source and make a new build. When los stops making upstream changes to a ROM you wouldn't even be able to do that. You would have to take their old source and merge the security updates in yourself, since they don't any more, then make a build and hope there's no build errors for you to fix.