Hello everyone, so ive had my S8 for two and a half years now, and when my 2 year warranty ran out i decided to experiment and play around with rooting/roms. I never quite managed to ever root my phone properly, as it always soft bricked, still not sure why, but irrelevant now. Since then my phone still thinks that its rooted (even though it isnt), im pretty sure this is due to the Knox fuse being tripped. It doesnt really bother me as i can still use my phone for everything i ever need, and it gets official updates from Samsung monthly (even got One UI on time), however, the one thing i am desperately missing is the contactless payment. My question is, is there a way to maybe trick, or bypass the google root check to set up contactless payment again? I have seen people saying you can if your phone is rooted, by editing some build files, however, since i have never managed to properly root this phone, is there another way? Cheers for any info/help.
Magisk + Google pay works good
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I'm getting to pilot having a Galaxy S5 for work since they're finally going to allow a choice of iphone or android instead of just bes5 blackberry devices.
Now I love me some rooted droid, like my Nexus7 and old classic galaxy s 4g.
What exactly is Knox? I read a little that its a bit that you can flag.
Also anyone familiar with Airwatch? When I used to test it i had my rooted devices as compromised.
I may be getting elevated rights to even white list myself but in the meantime since its a company phone, I need to keep it someone stock, so I was hoping for a simpler debloated stock with maybe a toggleable root if no work around for Airwatch is available.
Thelgow said:
I'm getting to pilot having a Galaxy S5 for work since they're finally going to allow a choice of iphone or android instead of just bes5 blackberry devices.
Now I love me some rooted droid, like my Nexus7 and old classic galaxy s 4g.
What exactly is Knox? I read a little that its a bit that you can flag.
Also anyone familiar with Airwatch? When I used to test it i had my rooted devices as compromised.
I may be getting elevated rights to even white list myself but in the meantime since its a company phone, I need to keep it someone stock, so I was hoping for a simpler debloated stock with maybe a toggleable root if no work around for Airwatch is available.
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Knox is a flag system for Warranty void to my understanding.
Don't know about Airwatch, sorry.
Towelroot will root you in about 5 seconds SO LONG AS YOUR KERNEL DATE IS PRE-June 3rd. SuperSU can Un-root you too if needed. But you can also root, uninstall Towelroot.apk, and debloat the phone with the lists in other threads.
Good luckl
kprice8 said:
Knox is a flag system for Warranty void to my understanding.
Don't know about Airwatch, sorry.
Towelroot will root you in about 5 seconds SO LONG AS YOUR KERNEL DATE IS PRE-June 3rd. SuperSU can Un-root you too if needed. But you can also root, uninstall Towelroot.apk, and debloat the phone with the lists in other threads.
Good luckl
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No problem. VZ phone should be brand new, delivered today. But then again, when I bought my wife and my Galaxy S 4g's, side by side from the stash, we had totally different setups. one had froyo, other eclair if I recall. even packaging was different. The sticker on my screen had no text, so I left it on. Hers had crap all over.
So hopefully it's got older kernel.
If it is newer, is it that I cannot root at all, or a more complicated method?
For reference air watch is an MDM solution so people can enroll with their personal device, so they can get the corporate email. Also adds an option to remotely wipe the corporate email accounts. Once it detects root it used to kill the email app and stop the emails.
Normally I love to play around with stuff but I don't want to be in limbo without email in between.
I think i should be able to hold off on activating the cell number and just play with it in Wifi mode for the time being, and rock the bold 9930 a few more days.
Thelgow said:
No problem. VZ phone should be brand new, delivered today. But then again, when I bought my wife and my Galaxy S 4g's, side by side from the stash, we had totally different setups. one had froyo, other eclair if I recall. even packaging was different. The sticker on my screen had no text, so I left it on. Hers had crap all over.
So hopefully it's got older kernel.
If it is newer, is it that I cannot root at all, or a more complicated method?
For reference air watch is an MDM solution so people can enroll with their personal device, so they can get the corporate email. Also adds an option to remotely wipe the corporate email accounts. Once it detects root it used to kill the email app and stop the emails.
Normally I love to play around with stuff but I don't want to be in limbo without email in between.
I think i should be able to hold off on activating the cell number and just play with it in Wifi mode for the time being, and rock the bold 9930 a few more days.
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If it has the newer kernel, you may be able to flash back to NCG root, then modify what is needed, then update to NE9 again, and re-root after.
Nice, the box has SW Ver ending NCG, confirmed Kernel was on May xx.
I had it up but Airwatch kept failing.
I tried Rootcloak. Then saw that needed Cydia substrate.. then saw that needed SELinux changer... Then that needed Knox disabled...
That needs SuperSU.
Air watch still failed.
Removed all of that and installed fine. So I'll play with this some more later.
I guess I can just root up, kill bloatware, and then unroot again.
Well I went to reroot to play with it more, unrooted and still detected as Compromised.
It seems if it sees I have towelroot installed, not even if rooted, its compromised.
At least I narrowed that down. Ill retry rootcloak later and ensure I have towelroot uninstalled.
I just tried to use my banking apps for the first time on my brand new OnePlus 5. It's completely stock still, not rooted or anything. I have 2 banks and both of their banking apps fail to load. Also Android pay fails to work, tells me I need a network connection when I already have one. I confirmed my banking apps are still working on my HTC one m9 but I no longer have the s8 or s6 I use to use Android pay with. I tried searching on here and didn't see anyone else having these issues. Any ideas?
Is your bootloader perhaps unlocked?
Unless oneplus sends them out that way from the factory, no. But I haven't actually checked.
Did you give the apps the correct permissions?
I had the same issue with one of my Banking apps, fully stock with locked bootloader, and when opening the app it sent me to a website page stating that my software was modified.
My solution was to unlock bootloader, install TWRP, root and use banking on my laptop :angel:
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I guess my solution is going to be to carry my old HTC around and tether off the OnePlus when I need to check my account balance. I sure hope they fix this soon.
Have you tried Magisk hide? Every app i've tried has been spot on with that, work email, snapchat, everything really, don't use banking apps on my phone so couldn't say for sure.
I got an update last night, plus I went into app permissions and gave them every permission possible. Still no go. It says the app has encountered an unexpected problem after it tries for maybe 15 seconds to load.
Snapchat works fine. I haven't tried magisk. I wasn't going to bother rooting this phone because I like it as is.
Android Pay and my bank apps work fine on my stock, locked bootloader OP5. I'm in the US.
Seems peculiar Android Pay fails. Have you tried hard resetting?
I cleared data and uninstalled all 3 apps and I got both banking apps to work on the second try. Android pay kept telling me I needed a data connection which I already had. I realized NFC wasn't turned on so I turned that on and then it seemed to get past that part but it tells me my card isn't supported so I need to look into that with my bank.
Not sure why it didn't work the first time. It seems like I've had to reboot this phone for weird glitches a lot more than I did on my old s6. Hopefully that doesn't continue.
Update: they stopped working again. They seem to work once and then the next time you to try to log in it fails every time. Glad I still have an old HTC one m8 I can bank with. Lol. I'm not doing Android pay on a phone without a finger print sensor though.
350Rocket said:
Snapchat works fine. I haven't tried magisk. I wasn't going to bother rooting this phone because I like it as is.
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You're stock and they're not working? Weird.
Do you have to de-authorise the banking apps to use them on another phone? My back accounts app requires that
I don't believe so. I traded the s6 on the s8 and they worked fine right away on both of those ones when I first got them. Plus I've used them interchangeably on my main phone and my backup HTC m9 quite a bit. I reinstalled them on the m9 when the OnePlus failed to work and that's how I've been getting by.
I have been having an issue with Venmo. It won't let me verify the device, this has been happening since I got the device. Now I am unlocked/rooted with Magisk hiding, and it's still not letting me verify. So strange.
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I have been having an issue with Venmo. It won't let me verify the device, this has been happening since I got the device. Now I am unlocked/rooted with Magisk hiding, and it's still not letting me verify. So strange.
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Figured out my issue. I had an adblock enabled and it wouldn't let it send the code because of that. Disabled and all is well.:good::good:
I am in the UK. My OP5 is completely stock. I have Lloyds, Nationwide and Barclaycard banking apps installed and working plus Android Pay. So, it should work OK.
I am running version .8 of the OS
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I believe I was on 4.5.10 before the update and now it's 4.5.11. So maybe they broke it with the .10 update? I really don't see anything else I could have done to make it not work. I've never had a problem before even on rooted phones.
OP curious what does your android pay do that it doesn't work?
Does it open or when you pay it doesn't work
I haven't tried it at a terminal yet, but I believe it's ready to work. I switched banks and my new debit card isn't compatible with Android pay even though I was lead to believe it did.
I added my one credit card and my old debit card and they seem to be ready to go now.
So my issue now is only with the banking apps, not Android pay.
My snapchat (lest safetynet) won't work at all. Tried different roms.....
Hi, i need some help here.
Brazil recently received Android Pay and i started using right away but my Nexus 6P isnt working with that, i dont know the reason for.
My NFC chip is good (i use the phone to recharge transportion pass with NFC tech and no problem) i use Pure Nexus 7.1.2 and i have the bootloop of death fix on my phone and my Vendor Image is a little outdated too (i cannot updated it because of bootloop of death) all things considered it pass on all safety Net tests and i dont have root.
Does someone have a clue of the problem?
Thanks a lot
Maybe time to update to something a little newer. Stock android 8.1 is really descent and battery life isn't to shabby. Pretty sure they have updated fix for bootloop peeps.
Thanks for the tip, but right now i dont want mess with that....last time i almost lose the phone and in the same way as back there i dont have the money to a new one
Any other suggestion to adress the Android Pay problem? I tried on my old N4 on 5.1.2 and no problem at all.
Just and updated, I Match the correct vendor image for my build and now the phone does vibrate when near the terminal but still gets different error message.
Ideas?
Also Google support is in the loop but no solution on their end also yet.
Daughter had her Note 4 replaced a few months ago, and it had just been sitting there. Earlier this week got a DJI Spark, and the flight controller requires an Android or iOS phone. Got tired of pulling the case off and on MY phone (S8+), so figured I could use hers as a WiFi-only, dedicated device.
My main concern is that I don't think we ever got the phone formally unlocked by AT&T. I've gotten around that so far just by pulling out the sim. It doesn't seem "happy" about it, but hasn't stopped me configuring the phone to do what I need so far - though it would be nice to be able to uninstall all the AT&T apps that are on there even after a full reset/wipe.
So wondering if there is:
A) Some way to unlock this old thing so I can rest easy it won't have an issue waking up one day
B) A more recent ROM and/or security updates (while it mainly will access the Drone/Receiver WiFi I presume I need to still connect to the home LAN occasionally for app updates)
C) Anything I could flash to make it less of a phone and more of a small tablet (since that's how I'll be using it)
Thanks in advance!
If you are saying the phone is locked to AT&T and you want it unlocked then see here:
https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/#/
Apparently no one has been able to root your device before because they cannot unlock the bootloader:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...ty-att-note-4-root-knox-list-pledges-t2946770
My recommendation is to do a factory reset and use something like Package Disabler Pro app to freeze unneeded applications.
terminator911 said:
Apparently no one has been able to root your device before because they cannot unlock the bootloader:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...ty-att-note-4-root-knox-list-pledges-t2946770
My recommendation is to do a factory reset and use something like Package Disabler Pro app to freeze unneeded applications.
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Ah... well that's too bad. I like that the phone has a replaceable battery, which makes it almost worth keeping as long as possible for that. Will try your suggestion on the other. Thanks anyway!
Sorry if this is wrong place or way to post on here. I am wanting to root the on5 but it is a learning experience. No pc to use. Is there a apk that actually works. Tried kingroot it says device not supported
I have developer options on and the oem toggle on am I ok with that. If anyone has the time and patience and could walk me through how to get going please let me know. Thanks
Jdaddy1 said:
Sorry if this is wrong place or way to post on here. I am wanting to root the on5 but it is a learning experience. No pc to use. Is there a apk that actually works. Tried kingroot it says device not supported
I have developer options on and the oem toggle on am I ok with that. If anyone has the time and patience and could walk me through how to get going please let me know. Thanks
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Guess I came to the wrong place for advicre
I'm curious too.
You're not the only one who would like to know, but this is an older ( & apparently not widely used) phone that hasn't been sold for a few years so you may not get any answers.
Yea It's was one of my old ones. Wanted to use it to learn. Any suggestions on a older phone that rooting would be simple.? Can a phone be rooted without a computer I've read so much that says either but doesn't sound like it would.
Jdaddy1 said:
Yea It's was one of my old ones. Wanted to use it to learn. Any suggestions on a older phone that rooting would be simple.? Can a phone be rooted without a computer I've read so much that says either but doesn't sound like it would.
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Sorry for the late reply. It's my current phone & the storage issues are just getting to be ridiculous otherwise I wouldn't be interested in rooting because of the risk of bricking/voiding warranty etc; but I don't know anything else to do. I know that it's possible to root with an app, but it depends on finding a vulnerability that can be exploited with your specific phone. It's different for every phone. If you choose to install a custom ROM you should find one made for your phone too otherwise you're likely to have problems if you try it on a phone that you intend to actually use for calls/texts etc; I had an HTC droid Eris years ago & used a one-click root app & it worked without any problem that I could tell, but it was a phone I wasn't using as my daily driver too, so I wasn't worried about voiding the warranty/radios not working etc;. Cell & sometimes bluetooth & wifi radios not working are common issues with newer ROMs or especially if you choose a ROM not made for your phone. With the Eris I just installed the app, pressed the button & it rebooted, installed a custom recovery & booted into the OS. With the On5 either there isn't a known exploit or there's just nobody willing or able to look for one or both. They would have to still have the phone to be able to look for one. If you have a flea market near you maybe you could go there & see if there's a phone store that you could get an old cheap one you could practice on? I don't remember the app I used, but I'm pretty sure it came from the play store. It seems like I read somewhere that HTC phones were easier to root, but I'm not sure.