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I am still on my 14 day return and have been thinking about this. Android biggest problem is something new is always right around the corner. I think a lot of you are here cause the Asus was unavailable and may still be waiting on that.
So are you keeping it.
Did it surprise you enough to stay with it.
Is the upcoming Samsung Galazy Tab 10.1 or the burning desire to have the Transformer gonna make you take it back.
Maybe the Toshiba Tab with it's built in USB might persuade you.
Sticking. Stuck.
I bought the Acer because the ASUS wasn't available, but I'm quite happy with it anyway. As you said, there's always something new around the corner, but what I've seen about the Toshiba models put them in the Xoom price range, and I haven't seen pricing on the Samsung 8.9 and 10.1 (new thin models, not the 10.1V original design.)
Honeycomb in general's still a very new system, and I expect by this time next year most of the things we're looking at as "missing" or "broken" will be available and/or fixed. Kinda the way I'm still using my (original generation) Droid phone, which, when overclocked and ROMd over to Gingerbread is just fine
Actually...
I figured that I'd get it to play with Honeycomb and wait for some of the vaporware tablets to emerge. I had bought a Xoom but it was a real POS - nothing worked including the falsely advertised charging dock, etc. So I returned it.
Now I'm absolutely keeping the Iconia - I have a rooted Nook Color - very nice but not in the same league as the Iconia.
Don't believe all the BS put out about how bad the screen is, or other stuff.
I rooted it (easiest root I have ever done) and everything works as advertiszed.
I still got until Monday wiki decide Saturday if I will return or not to get the transfoemer, tegra 3 tablets are also coming out in august
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Got both the Asus and the iconia and will keep the iconia ..
The Asus just feels so cheaply made that no amount of screen quality can make up for it feeling like a cheap toy in my hands.
I can understand the whole IPS vs standard screen debate as i have owned many great screens over the years including IPS desktop screens and iPads etc etc .
They both have there pros and there cons but a good screen and good build quality are more important to me and the whole USB host thing built in without the need for a dock or separate accessory is just great.
Will never need a keyboard attached to it either and i think thats what really pushed me over the edge to keep the Acer.
Not slamming on the Asus btw because its decent in other areas but after getting 2 with some nasty light bleed on top of questionable build quality the Acer just took the crown for overall winner .
I am keeping mine. I actually had a Xoom first and took it back...thought it was too expensive for what it was. I actually really like the Acer better. I love the USB port, the micro card slot actually works ( didn't on xoom as of yet), It feels a lot lighter and I actually like the bezel being larger as it is easier to hold without hitting the screen. The viewing angle is good (not sure why bad comments on that). I like it a lot.
Keeping. Was waiting on the Asus, but i'm more than happy with the screen of the Acer, absolutely love the usb port, and since removing the phone apks, I have no complaints about battery life. I'm happy.
Right before I got the Acer I had purchased a used Galaxy Tab 7" thinking that would satisfy me.
Then I saw the Acer. Once I touched it I fell instantly in love and fought myself not to give into temptation everyday. Suddenly it hit me... I have a Bestbuy card and it means I can take 18 months to pay for it without a dime of interest.
1/2 hour later I had the Iconia in my sweaty hands.
Sure the wife *****ed but hey, it's only a new toy once.
For me it's a keeper. Like others have said, the USB port is a big factor and I see nothing wrong with the screen.
Keepin'. I am surprised how much I enjoy the Acer iconia Tab. The USB port makes all the difference. I think the build quality is very nice indeed and I really like the design. Root doesn't hurt either.
I was an early adopter of the Linux Eee Pcs and thought they were very solid little machines, but later models had some serious build quality issues. So the Eee Transformer quality/build problems I have read about do not surprise me one bit. . . .
Also have the Galaxy Tab 7" and a Nook Color. Not sure which one of those I'm sticking with though. I like them both but I leaning toward the Nook and selling the Galaxy Tab on Ebay.
Keeping for sure
I will be taking mine back, but only cause I will be waiting for Samsung galaxy tab 10.1. The weight of the Acer is an issue for me, but can understand why it is. Feels very sturdy. I absolutely love the USB port & sdcard working out of the box. So testing the Acer gave me a few things to think about far as what I want in a tablet. I know Galaxy tab 10.1 will not have USB port. Not sure how Toshiba's will feel.
I definitely recommend people to try the Acer
Also the corners of acer are kind of pointy if holding for awhile.
def keeping mine. I don't know why the Asus got so much media and Acer didnt
I'm still on the fence. I'm coming from daily use of a convertible Fujitsu with stylus and have wanted something this light for a while and miss not having a stylus for normal handwriting.
There are also some things I may not be able to live without which require Window$ but I'm going to give it another week and see if I can see a way to fit it into my normal working life.
If there weren't things that were broken out of the box (gps, compass) I'd probably be leaning more towards keeping at this point
Took a day or two to work out a couple of bugs, but now my A500 is rock solid, smoking fast, amazing battery life. I'm 100% satisfied. This should be fine for me until a Tegra 4 comes out in 2012...
The only thing I am waiting for is a new kernel so I can see what this baby will do when it is overclocked.
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Took a day or two to work out a couple of bugs, but now my A500 is rock solid, smoking fast, amazing battery life. I'm 100% satisfied. This should be fine for me until a Tegra 4 comes out in 2012...
The only thing I am waiting for is a new kernel so I can see what this baby will do when it is overclocked.
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Any tips tricks as to what you did to fix / customize?
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-Immediately did a factory reset. Eliminated problem with screen coming back on after screen time out and an odd problem I had with my screen timeout being stuck at 15 seconds.
-Rooted with GingerBreak (make sure you lock in portrait during process)
-WPA supplicant
-changed phone.apk and telephony___.apk to .bak to kill the phone processes. Mad a HUGE improvement in an already satisfactory battery life. WARNING: This will brick your phone if you do a factory reset without changing them back.
-Installed ADW for my home screen
-Installed SyncSMS to get SMS functionality
Apps that help:
-GingerBreak
-Root Explorer
-Terminal Emulator
-Uninstaller for Root
-Super Manager
-ES File
Apps I love:
-PlayOn: Streaming TV from my NAS drive
-SugarSync: All my work docs in the cloud
-WinAmp: Sync music with my desktop over wifi
-Feedly: Google RSS feed looks like a magazine
-Chrome to Phone
Still on the edge
I like the screen and feel of it, but with Honeycomb there aren't many apps out there that run on it (without FC all the time).
I'm trying to justify keeping it for work, but there's no Activesync (without rooting), Calendar is a joke and other than playing movies/games on it what do YOU use it for?
I can't see dumping my laptop anytime soon, so my question is what are you using it for? Serious question.
Thanks
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I wanted the EEE TF as well but got the Iconia in the interim. I'm pleasantly surprised. I don't want the TF anymore. After playing with a friends, I'm not convinced it's worthwhile to exchange them. It has a gorgeous display and is a tad lighter but I'm afraid I've been jaded by the really bad things I've read about it and am convinced the first batch was very shoddy. Unfortunately, by the time it's released there will be competitors with possibly better options (toshiba, samsung, sony, htc, etc.)
My goal is to get something I'm 100% happy with. I'm 98% happy with the Iconia.
What's in that 2%? Limited video file and format playing ability and bugs due to Honeycomb right now.
Otherwise, hell yeah! I'd have liked an IPS screen. This AUO screen isn't bad at all but it's no IPS, right? Acer could have at least pegged Samsung for PLS.
It's also in wrestling with the idea of having the faith in Acer to believe they really will update and fix these things in the near future. These companies aren't known for keeping their products updated beyond a certain period. I can easily see their promised June update becoming Samsung-esque and not seen for months if ever.
That being said, I've entertained the idea of returning it and waiting to see what I can get in June. But tech is tricky and if you decide to wait, you can easily end up waiting forever for the next best thing as it's always around the corner. If the competitors are too expensive, it's not like the A500 won't be there for me to fall back on, it may even be cheaper! Of course, just like a cell phone - once you own one of these things you come to depend on it rather quickly if you're used to doing things a certain way.
I use it for everything now. My notebook sits in it's bag most of the time.
It's awesome for multimedia, period.
I use it in the kitchen and around the house to play music and videos if I don't feel like sitting in front of the TV.
I use it in the kitchen to look up new and different things to cook.
I use it as a visual remote for my PC (to control music or manipulate downloads). I use it in the couch to look up stuff I see on TV.
I bring it with me EVERYWHERE, yes...I now own a manbag.
I use it on the road when I'm out with the wife and she's in Macys/JCPenny/Kohls or any of those places I don't feel like venturing with her into for hours.
I use it when I'm at the cafe or out at dinner. I don't have it out all the time, but it's with me in case I want to use it and I must say, it's nicer than flipping out a netbook which I guess is ironic but I always thought that was so odd looking. You know, when people pop their netbooks out on a table in the middle of 4 people being social. For me it's a matter of looking up something quick and then popping it back in.
The list goes on and on.
It's basically replaced my android phone in its smart abilities while managing to be more comfortable in that the screen is bigger. It's replaced my notebook in it's lighter tasks like multimedia due to it being ultimately way, way more portable and touchscreen.
My dilemma is living without it for 2 months while I wait for something that I'm hoping will satisfy me 99 or 100%, should I decide to return it. I still have a few days to decide.
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Calendar is a joke
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Have you tried Jorte?
I know we are probably no very close at all to the release of the Nook color 2 but i want to know what you people want to see in the next nook.
I want to see
1. 1 Ghz Processor Stock (not having to put custom kernel onto)
2. One camera on front of the device
3. HDMI port
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I know we are probably no very close at all to the release of the Nook color 2 but i want to know what you people want to see in the next nook.
I want to see
1. 1 Ghz Processor Stock (not having to put custom kernel onto)
2. One camera on front of the device
3. HDMI port
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All three are pretty much unnecessary for the ebook market.
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All three are pretty much unnecessary for the ebook market.
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If the original only had what was "-necessary for the ebook market," none of us would be here
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If the original only had what was "-necessary for the ebook market," none of us would be here
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Lol
I agree it will probably have the Camera, maybe the 1ghz processor(but definitely not dual core) and definitly no HDMI port. lol that last one was just dreaming... but a guy(or a women) can dream
I suspect louder speakers! lol
I agree with burns... If they do anything to the Nook Color, it'll be make it lighter. I doubt they'll continue to try and compete in the Tablet market. It would just be silly, especially with Amazon positioning themselves to make a tablet that undercuts everything on the market less of chinese tablets.
I do agree it's unlikely that the tablet 'sweet spot' B&N hit with the current NC will still be there around October when it's time for a new device. They would probably be smarter to focus on increasing battery life and lowering cost while increasing their color-specific offerings (kids books, magazines, cookbooks/how-to).
Same device, slightly new proc maybe but....
Half the weight!,
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Please, oh please...an 8.9" screen that approximates the page size of a "trade" paperback.
This has been my reading goal from the beginning as 6 is too small and 10.1 is too large.
More up-to-date processor (though the current is doing just fine) and full Andorid Market access without rooting (let the quality of the unit speak for itself...don't hamstring it).
A truly non-glare AND (largely) non-reflective screen.
A front firing speaker!!!
8 1/2-9.0 would be a real "Goldilocks" range though I have gotten quite used to the 7"!
And, last but not least, a removable battery or significantly extended battery life.
A user serviceable battery for sure
Def. the battery
lighter
better "anti-glare" technology, whatever that may be
camera would be nice, but probably won't get it
Proc would be nice too, and may get that
Speaker quality is really imperative....
Here's hoping!
DB
Honestly I don't expect anything out of the Nook Color 2, because I don't think it will have the same developer community so I won't want one.
The Nook Color is what it is because from October of last year, to this month (when sub-$300 Galaxy Tabs began popping up on the internet) it was the best tablet value. For much of that time, it was BY FAR the best tablet value- beating other options by $hundreds.
That is no longer the case, and it won't be the case for the next Nook Color. We will probably keep our pace of development on the original for at least another six months due to critical mass, but the next great hackable ereader is probably that tablet Amazon is keeping under wraps.
If B&N is smart they won't replace the first Nook Color for a while (aka sometime in 2012)...
Who needs a tablet in 2012? We'll all be gone anyways! lol... silly interwebs-peoplez.
There will be no crazy nook color 2.
The nook color does everything an ereader should do, too much in fact. B&N dont want you to buy the NC they want you to buy BOOKS! Adding more features to appeal to this community is the LAST thing they will do.
If anything they will revise the current nook with a better anti glare coating, hopefully a better speaker and i would not be surprised to see a locked bootloader and the ability to boot from SD removed.
The "hacking" community has been great thus far because now they can say we have sold "eleventy billion machines"! Now that they have that bit of marketing under their belt theres NO reason under the sun to cater to us anymore and every reason to start locking it down and protecting their interests...
My guess is it will probably happen as soon as amazon uses nook marketing against them. "XX% of nook colors are running the amazon kindle app" Makes one appealing tag line for amazon. If that happens the shareholders will put an end to the fun quick enough.
TLR the original nook color is probably as good as its going to get for us.
For me Nook is perfect as it now with CM7 + OC kernel:
Fast and smooth for ebooks, web, music, movies and casual gaming.
As the bug for battery life is fixed, it is astonishing about power.
Wifi is really ok with my MB511 (tethered 3G/Wifi from the backpack to the nook).
Maybe a bluetooth keyboard or a dock like the asus transformer and i have a netbook
For the size, 8.9" would be great without screen border.
I'd like to see at least a mono mike input
for voice control & email - SMS to text apps and voice chat
The fabled Amazon tablet will have a lot to say about whether there will be another NC, and what it will look like.
We should do everything we can do prolong the life of the NC now.
Still rocking the Incredible with the XDA Premium App.
The only improvement I can think of considering this is an ebook device would be a better screen for use outdoors as others have said.
The current screen is awesome indoors... great color, great viewing angles. I'm also impressed how good the touch sensitivity is for a resistive digitizer. But outdoors I can barely see what I'm trying to read through the reflection of my face or of the sky.
Had I bought this primarily as an ereader I'd be disappointed.
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I'm also impressed how good the touch sensitivity is for a resistive digitizer.
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Good sensitivity "for a resistive digitizer" is a rather poor review of a capacitive touchscreen
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Good sensitivity "for a resistive digitizer" is a rather poor review of a capacitive touchscreen
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Whoops. I swear I read it was resistive before I bought it. Either way it's quite good the only issue I have is the position jumping when I lift my finger off (such as when using the arrow to move the cursor) I don't have the same issue on my phone but that may just be the angle since the NC is so much larger.
Hi,
I am new to the world of tablet & I am going to buy my first tablet & got stuck with two choices - xoom & sony tablet S (ruled out tab 10.1 due to lack of expandable storage option). can you guys please suggest on this? (p.s. - android OS is not new to me)
Also, I would be grateful if you guys can inform me about the 3G frequency band being used in xoom. Also, please let me know what type of SIM being used in 3g xoom for ex - normal SIM card or U-SIM.
p.s. - didn't found any thread for this comparison
Both tablets aren't really very smooth.
Of the two, its hard to choose. The sony tablet looks very nice.
As the owner of the xooms, the display is dull and poorly calibrated, unbearably ugly heavy and fat. Shadowgun isn't completely smooth. Playable, but not smooth.
Live wallpapers does not work, UI still lag. Sony tablet also didn't get such rave reviews
You sure you need so much space? Please consider the samsung 10.1, due to the ****ty screen of the xoom I didn't even bother putting videos on the tablet.
32GB sounds enough I seldom use my sd card too.
Mine has a good screen, the weight is fine, live wallpapers work fine and ICS is on par with iOS.
The Xoom's panel is really bad.
I wouldn't think like that if I also didn't own a Galaxy S2. Comparing the 2 panels is like comparing a V12 Ferrari to a V8 Mustang on a racetrack. Obviously the Mustang is pretty and powerful, but once you have them side by side competing against each other, you come to think that the once mighty Mustang might be just a cheap POS when compared to the almighty Ferrari V12.
The other downside of the Xoom is the lack of 1080p output on the micro-HDMI port. I can connect if to my big LED TV, but all I get is 720p.
It has many obvious advantages over the Galaxy Tab 10.1, but if image output (either on its display or on TV) is important to you and a deciding factor, rule the Xoom out.
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Both tablets aren't really very smooth.
Of the two, its hard to choose. The sony tablet looks very nice.
As the owner of the xooms, the display is dull and poorly calibrated, unbearably ugly heavy and fat. Shadowgun isn't completely smooth. Playable, but not smooth.
Live wallpapers does not work, UI still lag. Sony tablet also didn't get such rave reviews
You sure you need so much space? Please consider the samsung 10.1, due to the ****ty screen of the xoom I didn't even bother putting videos on the tablet.
32GB sounds enough I seldom use my sd card too.
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I would return the Xoom if you are not happy with it. I love my Xoom and wasnt expecting the best of the best when I purchased it. The build quality of the Xoom is far superior over any other Android Tablet out there right now. Maybe the screen isnt the best or some other asepects but that doesnt bother my. It does what I want it to do. Enjoy. Thanks
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Hi,
I am new to the world of tablet & I am going to buy my first tablet & got stuck with two choices - xoom & sony tablet S (ruled out tab 10.1 due to lack of expandable storage option). can you guys please suggest on this? (p.s. - android OS is not new to me)
Also, I would be grateful if you guys can inform me about the 3G frequency band being used in xoom. Also, please let me know what type of SIM being used in 3g xoom for ex - normal SIM card or U-SIM.
p.s. - didn't found any thread for this comparison
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For us to better help you, I would suggest listing things that are important to you.
Then instead of people complaining about things only they care about, you can actually get some usable opinions.
Also,the Xoom uses a standard SIM. Not sure about the bands it uses.
ccaian1 said:
Both tablets aren't really very smooth.
Of the two, its hard to choose. The sony tablet looks very nice.
As the owner of the xooms, the display is dull and poorly calibrated, unbearably ugly heavy and fat. Shadowgun isn't completely smooth. Playable, but not smooth.
Live wallpapers does not work, UI still lag. Sony tablet also didn't get such rave reviews
You sure you need so much space? Please consider the samsung 10.1, due to the ****ty screen of the xoom I didn't even bother putting videos on the tablet.
32GB sounds enough I seldom use my sd card too.
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I completely disagree with you, regarding the performance of the Xoom.
My experience is the opposite. On EOS ICS, especially, my Xoom is super smooth, fast and responsive. I have a good screen. I can do everything I want with my Xoom. I don't have all the troubles reported by owners of other tablets, including the Transformer Prime. I don't know the Sony tab but, the Xoom is a terrific device...even better than when it was first released, because of the software development.
Also have to disagree with ccain1,
the xoom is a nice product, performance wise even on stock ICS the performance is great, no lag, very smooth. apps are snappy.
as for the screen, majority say its dull, but thats because its not as contrasty as the samoleds that people regard as the holy grail of screens, the screen does the job, looks fine with movies, youtube and games. its just a heavy duty LCD screen.
they arent many niggling issues that other tabs suffer from that many complain about. (transformers dock/battery issues, 10.1s screen "oil mark" defects/all other tabs lack of updates)
Plus the Xoom, is considered a nexus device, which is why its the only tab released last year that officially running ICS. and likely will continues to receive updates.
You also gotta realize that is this complaint/fix heavy forum. Most things you read hear unfortunately will be negative, people don't come to brag about how things are great too much, only to complain and look for fixes.
bundled with a 32gb mSD you max out at like ~60GB of usable space.
easy to unlock/root
it is kinda heavy tho buts a 1st Generation tab, @ 1.7lbs, same weight as the first gen ipad
Only have the wifi version of the Xoom so can't tell you anything about its 3g. Have never tried the Sony model so can't give you an opinion on it. However, what I can tell you is that the Xoom has taken me completely by surprise. I was lucky enough to pick up a cheap xoom at the airport and within one day I had rooted it and put a custom rom on it. It was really easy even for a non-techie like me. And when the ICS custom roms started appearing it was not a problem putting that on it. It's a whole new experience from Honeycomb.
All in all I can only recommend the Xoom. Unless you can get the Sony model a whole lot cheaper I can't see the reason for you not getting a Xoom
Don't get the Sony. Made of plastic, even the screen is plastic, not Gorilla Glass like the Xoom. There's no development on the Sony and is not very popular. ICS on the Xoom is very very good.
I was also considering between these two and I finally chose xoom. It is cheaper and the screen is gorilla glass.
I don't what you are looking for in the Xoom so like others I will give you my opinion based on my needs. I am middle aged business man not interested in rooting and playing games on the Xoom. I use it for travel and work when I don't need my laptop. I have the 4G version so still on Honeycomb. All the griping about lag, delays and fingerprints is just that gripes. If someone thinks a tablet should be the end all to all of the computer needs well they are not very realistic. Got a problem with fingerprints then get a screen protector or a stylus pen. Need to access your laptop from afar, download an app and there you go. Wanna watch a movie on the plane no problem works great. Do you want to read in bed it works great. Good battery life and one last thing I would rather have a little bit heavier device that is built better then save a few grams for a plastic device.
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I don't what you are looking for in the Xoom so like others I will give you my opinion based on my needs. I am middle aged business man not interested in rooting and playing games on the Xoom. I use it for travel and work when I don't need my laptop. I have the 4G version so still on Honeycomb. All the griping about lag, delays and fingerprints is just that gripes. If someone thinks a tablet should be the end all to all of the computer needs well they are not very realistic. Got a problem with fingerprints then get a screen protector or a stylus pen. Need to access your laptop from afar, download an app and there you go. Wanna watch a movie on the plane no problem works great. Do you want to read in bed it works great. Good battery life and one last thing I would rather have a little bit heavier device that is built better then save a few grams for a plastic device.
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Agreed!!
Minus that im a younger geeky dude that like to expirement with rooting and getting my hands dirty unlocking the true potential out of our devices, The only thing I hate about the Xoom is motorolas lack of not being able to give there customers the support we deserve and for releasing other newer products before perfecting the ones that have been released!!!
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I don't what you are looking for in the Xoom so like others I will give you my opinion based on my needs. I am middle aged business man not interested in rooting and playing games on the Xoom. I use it for travel and work when I don't need my laptop. I have the 4G version so still on Honeycomb. All the griping about lag, delays and fingerprints is just that gripes. If someone thinks a tablet should be the end all to all of the computer needs well they are not very realistic. Got a problem with fingerprints then get a screen protector or a stylus pen. Need to access your laptop from afar, download an app and there you go. Wanna watch a movie on the plane no problem works great. Do you want to read in bed it works great. Good battery life and one last thing I would rather have a little bit heavier device that is built better then save a few grams for a plastic device.
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I agree.... I purchased my Xoom on day one and haven't looked back. With the HC upgrades and now ICS it's like I have a brand new top of the line device.
Even with all the new tablets being released I have yet to see one that is as well made as the Xoom.
hello guys
i think many times why not to change nst screen with lcd touch one and we can have almost a good Ipad ...... is that may get works??? and if it works , what a suitable screens that fit nst , and how about working on install , buy screen ....etc
i just share my thoughts to try use nst as best as we can
thx
Buy a LCD screen equiped tablet instead.
IMHO the screen is the best part on the nook. With its extremely low power consumption it's perfect for reading and i would want anything else for a reader (exept maybe a next generation color-e-ink screen).
There are affordable multimedia tablets with Android out there for those interested in photos, videos and games. But because of the screen their battery live sucks!
Here are the NOOK Simple Touch strong points:
The daylight readable screen. Most color devices, at least the affordable ones, are nearly unusable in direct sunlight, and have a LOT of glare outdoors.
It's feather light, and completely usable for extended periods with one hand. The NST weights less than 1/2 the NOOK Color.
It fits in a pocket. You might fit a NC/NT or an iPad in your pocket, but you'll get some stares.
It has impressive battery life. Color devices suck the battery down quickly, even on devices with much larger (4,000 mAH) batteries than the NST (1,530 mAH). If a NOOK Color/Tablet is good for about 8 hours, a NST would be good for less than 1/3 of that. Not very impressive at all.
If you wanted an iPad, this is probably not the device for you. If you want a cheap color device, there are dozens of cheap Chinese tablets that work well enough. Some are actually as cheap as, if not cheaper than a new NST. If you want any or all of these features, there's nothing like the NST.
The NST is never going to be an iPad, nor does it need to be. It's not the device for hipsters at the coffee shop fighting over outlets. It's the device for people that want outstanding readability and impressive battery life in a lightweight, pocketable device.
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Here are the NOOK Simple Touch strong points:
The daylight readable screen. Most color devices, at least the affordable ones, are nearly unusable in direct sunlight, and have a LOT of glare outdoors.
It's feather light, and completely usable for extended periods with one hand. The NST weights less than 1/2 the NOOK Color.
It fits in a pocket. You might fit a NC/NT or an iPad in your pocket, but you'll get some stares.
It has impressive battery life. Color devices suck the battery down quickly, even on devices with much larger (4,000 mAH) batteries than the NST (1,530 mAH). If a NOOK Color/Tablet is good for about 8 hours, a NST would be good for less than 1/3 of that. Not very impressive at all.
If you wanted an iPad, this is probably not the device for you. If you want a cheap color device, there are dozens of cheap Chinese tablets that work well enough. Some are actually as cheap as, if not cheaper than a new NST. If you want any or all of these features, there's nothing like the NST.
The NST is never going to be an iPad, nor does it need to be. It's not the device for hipsters at the coffee shop fighting over outlets. It's the device for people that want outstanding readability and impressive battery life in a lightweight, pocketable device.
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the main objective from my thread is try use all device abilities like when we do root for it we can access to many things we cant do if we use it's current OS , that all i talk about ..... but also in case any nst screen dead ... what the other solution for it .... so i suggest this idea at this thread
and for ur info i am with u in all what u say and i am not against or disagree ... just want to improve/edit nst properties to become better
thx for sharing this info
I am NOT a big-time Android developer. I just hack on my devices a bit. Forgive me if I get any of this wrong, My understanding is that the problem with doing wonderful things like porting CyanogenMod or other newer firmware to our wonderful NSTs is that the drivers for the screen hardware is not available. The basic Android OS source is available, but not the essential hardware drivers that would allow any port of a newer or different Android version to actually do anything. This is why, I believe, we have no great options like booting something different from uSD, or upgrading past Android 2.1 Eclair on these devices.
Therefore, I believe we're stuck with the Android 2.1 OS that B&N provides, and anything done is more-or-less just a hack of that. We can still do a lot, but we can't do everything.
I'd love to be wrong about this.
Hi. I am happy to be a new member.
I am looking for a tablet,this would be my first.
I am a huge windows/microsoft person and was excited about the new windows 8protablet releases.
I was also waiting for sprint to get some windows 8 phones in, but didn't want to wait.
so the Galaxy s3. ( considered the iphone 5) was what I went with. I love this thing. No complaints at all. How could you get any better.this is why I am looking into android tablets. But there is some conflict with other products.
The problem is.
Do I go with the ipad4.....the speakers are terrible, i should say speaker.
Do I get the asus transformer......but the screen is not the best.
I was going to wait for asus to release tx300 windows 8pro tablet....but i think this is over kill.
Even the samsung windows 8 tablet looked good too.
Now this nexus 10 comes out.
the most important thing for me is the screen, but I cant stand light bleed. I hope this is not a problem.
so I will mainly be using this for web surfing, ebooks (how good is this for reading text), and movie streaming.
I am not worried about apps made for 10'' tabs, i am patient and know it will start rolling out.
My main concern is the 32gb storage. My cell phone has a 32gb mem card and still has lots of room, so I would think it should be ok.
and what about the 64gb rumor?
can someone set me straight.
thanks..Joe
voodooevil said:
Hi. I am happy to be a new member.
I am looking for a tablet,this would be my first.
I am a huge windows/microsoft person and was excited about the new windows 8protablet releases.
I was also waiting for sprint to get some windows 8 phones in, but didn't want to wait.
so the Galaxy s3. ( considered the iphone 5) was what I went with. I love this thing. No complaints at all. How could you get any better.this is why I am looking into android tablets. But there is some conflict with other products.
The problem is.
Do I go with the ipad4.....the speakers are terrible, i should say speaker.
Do I get the asus transformer......but the screen is not the best.
I was going to wait for asus to release tx300 windows 8pro tablet....but i think this is over kill.
Even the samsung windows 8 tablet looked good too.
Now this nexus 10 comes out.
the most important thing for me is the screen, but I cant stand light bleed. I hope this is not a problem.
so I will mainly be using this for web surfing, ebooks (how good is this for reading text), and movie streaming.
I am not worried about apps made for 10'' tabs, i am patient and know it will start rolling out.
My main concern is the 32gb storage. My cell phone has a 32gb mem card and still has lots of room, so I would think it should be ok.
and what about the 64gb rumor?
can someone set me straight.
thanks..Joe
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Since I'm not a normal android user I can't comment on what exactly it is you're looking for, but I can tell you with the development that will be kicking in for this device, it'll be quite the tablet to beat. I have AOSP ROM installed and will be installing and trying other ROMs and kernels when they're out to see which best suits my style of using such a device.
internet browsing, ebooks, and movie streaming are all superb on the N10. There really isn't another tablet out there that competes with the screen. Light bleed seems to vary from device to device. I have one small corner at the bottom right that is barely noticely. Unless you're one of the OCD people who like to stare at black screens and scrutinize for minimal light bleed you're going to end up finding something you don't like in terms of that. For normal use for movie streaming and web browsing, chance are you won't even notice it or care about it.
I don't understand all these people complaining about light bleed. It really isn't that noticeable unless you received an obvious defected device that has a true light bleed problem.
Go to a store and try them all out. Retail stores should start stocking them soon so you can try them all out at the same time to see what you like the most.
I'm biased towards a Nexus device since there's much more you can do after rooting/unlocking it.
Good luck.
voodooevil said:
Hi. I am happy to be a new member.
I am looking for a tablet,this would be my first.
I am a huge windows/microsoft person and was excited about the new windows 8protablet releases.
I was also waiting for sprint to get some windows 8 phones in, but didn't want to wait.
so the Galaxy s3. ( considered the iphone 5) was what I went with. I love this thing. No complaints at all. How could you get any better.this is why I am looking into android tablets. But there is some conflict with other products.
The problem is.
Do I go with the ipad4.....the speakers are terrible, i should say speaker.
Do I get the asus transformer......but the screen is not the best.
I was going to wait for asus to release tx300 windows 8pro tablet....but i think this is over kill.
Even the samsung windows 8 tablet looked good too.
Now this nexus 10 comes out.
the most important thing for me is the screen, but I cant stand light bleed. I hope this is not a problem.
so I will mainly be using this for web surfing, ebooks (how good is this for reading text), and movie streaming.
I am not worried about apps made for 10'' tabs, i am patient and know it will start rolling out.
My main concern is the 32gb storage. My cell phone has a 32gb mem card and still has lots of room, so I would think it should be ok.
and what about the 64gb rumor?
can someone set me straight.
thanks..Joe
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The iPad 4 is a really great tablet and a great choice. You will not go wrong with the iPad 4. For me, there is not iPad vs. Android argument here, it is all about the software. If you like the openness of Android and are looking for a comparable tablet to the iPad, the N10 is it. I've owned an ASUS Transformer Prime which I really liked, but wanted a high def screen. I "upgraded" to the Infinity which had a great screen but was just a laggy, sluggish, experience. I was a bit weary of the N10 but I went for it and I am very happy. It is what I thought the Infinity would be in terms of performance. It is the only "true" competitor" to the iPad.
Granted, there are a bunch of people having issues with the N10 on this forum, but there are also people having issues with the iPad. It really comes down to the OS. iOS is great, but very closed. Android is also very good but open so if there is a "geek" in you, you can root it and do all sorts of stuff with it. BUT, if you don't root, the N10 is still the best Android tablet available. BUT, if you are on a budget, and you don't care about screen resolution, the T300 is on sale at a bunch of stores for a really good price (and the T300 isn't a bad tablet). And if you want to gamble, the Transformer Prime is going for a steal on many sites not but be warned, there are a bunch of confirmed issues with wifii on this tablet (although not for me).
In the end, my opinion is this. the iPad is a great tablet (Yeah, I said it, deal with it). But Google finally introduced a comparable tablet which is the N10. Don't fall victim to the iOS vs Android arguments, get what is best for you. If you do decide Android is for you, the N10 is at the top (hands down). The N7 (a 7 inch tablet) is close behind. The ASUS Transformer tablets (T300 or T700) are solid tablets if you want to get into the Android tablet market as they are being reduced in price recently.
Many people complain that a 10" tablet, no matter who makes it, is too heavy for ebook reading. You pretty much have to hold it with 2 hands the whole time, or set it in your lap, which is too far away. 7" tablets weigh about 1/2 as much (the N7 is just over 1/2 the N10's weight) which makes reading in bed easier. Then there is the whole reading on a backlit screen instead of a passive screen - not as easy on the eyes.
Having said all this, I basically don't read ebooks on my devices anyway. I tend to pick up my books from Barnes & Nobles discount racks a few months after release - they are cheaper than the ebook & I can share them with my wife, lend them to people, and save my batteries.
Thanks for all the very useful comments.
I am going to get the 32gb one on order.
I can see that everyone here is very helpful and
I cant wait to get my hands on this. Its a Christmas gift from my wife and hopefully
I will get it by then
Thanks guys. ..