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DesireZ ICS Battery life, is yours worse?

Hi all,
Just wondering if your all seeing reduced battery life with the ICS builds for the DesireZ?
I was using Miui (2.x) and now trying out Ice Cream JIBWich,and Im discovering the battery life is most certainly less. I've also tried CM9 Alpha and Andromedus r13, all roughly the same.
Battery Widget reports on average 40(ish)mA in sleep, I havent compared it to Miui but just wondering I've done something wrong here..
Install procedure this time was a factory wipe.
Comments?
Angelo

I don't know if my battery life is worse on ICS than on CM or stock 2.3. Because I don't have any logs of battery life. Maybe I will do some tests in next week, just for curious.
So... I'm getting 30mA - 34mA drain on idle on Andromadus v13 with default kernel. It is lower than yours. I'm using latest radio now (.19).

After implementing new features and fixing bugs, there is a stage of development called optimization. That is when you will see all the battery life milked out of a rom.
And none of the ICS roms are even close to that stage, so battery will probably not be indicative of the final product.

I don't have any hard numbers, but based on my moderate usage, (8am to 11pm) I go from 100% to about 40%. Fairly good IMO when compared to sense roms (that i'm used to) but not as good when compared to AOSP GB or MIUI roms..

Hmm I found my battery doing suprisingly well compared to aosp gb, now that I'm using ics its lasting longer than ever.
It probably has to do with better app/process management.
That's my experience..
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA

Well, this might sound strange to say but i'm actually getting the best battery life i've ever had out of ICS so far with Andromadus v13/Jibwich 1.3 on my phone. I seem to manage to get really long charges of at least 48 hours. Maybe i'm not using my phone as much as i was with GB? I'm not quite sure if that's the case or not, but i'm consistently getting longer lasting charges than ever before with GB.
Thing is though that ICS ROMs DO seem to drain the battery more while the phone is actively being used (in comparison to AOSP GB ROMs), this seems to be the case for me, as well as some other people that i've seen.
There were a few strange versions of Andromadus and Jibwich though which seemed to cause severe battery drain for me. Fortunately, that hasn't been the case with any of the latest versions.
All of that said, i still don't think anything compares to the battery life on G2 Slim (Gingerbread AOSP ROM), that ROM has ridiculously good battery life. With that one, i'd use my phone a fair bit (couple hours of tethering, gaming, lots of texting and calls) and it would still last for at least 44 hours or so.
In the end though, there are still some GB ROMs that have much worse battery life than ICS for me. For example, all CM7 variants that i've tried has always had this frustrating radio related battery drain, then some Sense ROMs seem to drain the battery a bit more than AOSP ROMs too. In response to the OP, i never really got amazing battery life with MIUI, so ICS has been a much better experience so far in that regard.
What i do know for sure though is that battery life with ICS is MUCH better than the stock gingerbread OTA update that our phones got.

thanks all,
I've done some checking and according to battery monitor, my JIBWIch rom seams to be fluctuating .. from 36mA to 97mA in standby which to be indicates something's running.. not sure what... Anyone recommend a decent process monitor, there's soo many of them
>After implementing new features and fixing bugs, there is a stage of development called >optimization. That is when you will see all the battery life milked out of a rom.
>And none of the ICS roms are even close to that stage, so battery will probably not be >indicative of the final product.
Agreed..
I'll see how it goes but I might have to go back to Miui (GB) as I use the phone for work..

asantaga said:
thanks all,
I've done some checking and according to battery monitor, my JIBWIch rom seams to be fluctuating .. from 36mA to 97mA in standby which to be indicates something's running.. not sure what... Anyone recommend a decent process monitor, there's soo many of them
>After implementing new features and fixing bugs, there is a stage of development called >optimization. That is when you will see all the battery life milked out of a rom.
>And none of the ICS roms are even close to that stage, so battery will probably not be >indicative of the final product.
Agreed..
I'll see how it goes but I might have to go back to Miui (GB) as I use the phone for work..
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Here was my (personal) record breaking charge on Andromadus v13 https://www.dropbox.com/gallery/12263406/1/screenies?h=c9ef42
You can see part of my configuration there (radio and CPU speeds).
On top of what's already there, i use supercharger RC6.9 with option 6 and nitro-lag-nullifier.
here are my usage patterns for good battery life:
-I generally stick to 2g networks as i don't do much web browsing while i'm out but when i do, i just switch to 3g.
-I also don't regularly use any task killers but if i detect any choppyness i kill app using Advanced Task Killer.
-I don't use auto-brightness and instead i just use the notification power widget.
-I do lots and lots of texting, some calls here and there, i often use wifi hotspot and i play 2d games a little bit at times, so i'm generally a light-moderate user.
-I also "debloat" as much as possible by getting rid of any system apps that i don't use.
On a random note, right now, i'm using Jibwich 1.3 and it is so great, battery life seems the same as andromadus v13 but this ROM is actually much more smooth and fluid on the home screen.
I hope this helps a bit, give me a thanks if you found this useful ;D

hey thanks for this, yeah very nice!
Just occured to me, im currently in Madrid (Roaming), and the phone's on 2g at the moment, I WONDER.. just wonder, if its constantly hunting for 3G signal.. now that would account for the random power demands...
Meanwhilst I found this app http://androidadvices.com/save-battery-android-phone-enabling-2g-network/
Apart from adding a 2g/3g toggle it also makes the phone go to 2g when sleeping.. I mean when its sleeping we dont need 3g access....
Anyone else tried it? or can recommend a different better/app?

asantaga said:
hey thanks for this, yeah very nice!
Just occured to me, im currently in Madrid (Roaming), and the phone's on 2g at the moment, I WONDER.. just wonder, if its constantly hunting for 3G signal.. now that would account for the random power demands...
Meanwhilst I found this app http://androidadvices.com/save-battery-android-phone-enabling-2g-network/
Apart from adding a 2g/3g toggle it also makes the phone go to 2g when sleeping.. I mean when its sleeping we dont need 3g access....
Anyone else tried it? or can recommend a different better/app?
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Go to settings --> wireless and networks --> mobile networks
Now see if you have "use only 2g networks" checked. If you do, that'd be why you're always connecting to 2g networks.
As a battery saving tip, it's best to always check that option when you don't need mobile data (like when you're at home and wifi is available).
In addition to that, if that option is NOT checked, then your phone will connect to 3g networks where applicable, you have to check if your carrier actually uses 3g networks on your plan.
Also that app seems fine, but i wouldn't use the "use 2g when sleep" option because that could cause problems with reception between waking and sleeping because it'll be erratically switching between basebands all the time.

asantaga said:
Hi all,
Just wondering if your all seeing reduced battery life with the ICS builds for the DesireZ?
I was using Miui (2.x) and now trying out Ice Cream JIBWich,and Im discovering the battery life is most certainly less. I've also tried CM9 Alpha and Andromedus r13, all roughly the same.
Battery Widget reports on average 40(ish)mA in sleep, I havent compared it to Miui but just wondering I've done something wrong here..
Install procedure this time was a factory wipe.
Comments?
Angelo
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It looks to me that yes. Tried 3 ICS inluding JIBWich and CM9 based and battery life was reduced to me about 1/3 maybe 1/4. looks like that. Hope some improovment will come in near future.

I'm running Andromadus v13 and it seems to be only a bit worse than the latest CM7 nightly. However, this is only my subjective opinion, it could be that I'm using my phone more with ICS
I also have the .19 radio and the tweaks associated with v13.

Well from what i've seen, ICS has very steep and sudden drops in the battery stats graph when the phone is being used. This is in contrast to many gingberbread ROMs which just have a sloping negative curve on the battery stats graph. This seems to indicate that ICS uses more battery when the phone is being actively used.
I'll post pics after this current charge is over to show a comparison of ICS battery life with Andro v13 and GB battery with Virtuous G-lite 2.0.1.

I don't see any difference between GB and the ICS battery usage, maybe because i allways configure it from begining and don't restore apps via titanium backup or any other app...
Also battery needs to calibrate under new ROM and after few charges you will see it working little bit longer and longer...
ps. Do you have disabled Google Talk on ICS fresh install? He is always on after installing and eats a lot of battery.

louloudi said:
I don't see any difference between GB and the ICS battery usage, maybe because i allways configure it from begining and don't restore apps via titanium backup or any other app...
Also battery needs to calibrate under new ROM and after few charges you will see it working little bit longer and longer...
ps. Do you have disabled Google Talk on ICS fresh install? He is always on after installing and eats a lot of battery.
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I also configure all new rom's from begining and on Affinity 2 - my battery in averange usage die after ~16h but on ISC os about ~13h, I don't know why.
My battery after full charge get 4.212 V , tried clear battery stats bin no effect

My avg runtime on one charge on CM7 w/o oc, with ilwt or pershoot kernel is 60hours (yes! 3 "work days") or atleast 2 days with 50-70 min calls and 25-35 SMS
Turning data and/or wifi when needed makes phone battery least looooonger...
Now testing Andromadus Audacity b1, charged 7.5h ago (4207mV), i will post when empty (or near ~3600-3650)

Also remember that we don't have the proper kernel source for our phone. There are some tweaks that can't really be made yet, and probably a bunch of wasted cpu time where errors and stuff get worked through.
GB battery life was worse than Froyo at the same stage of development. It'll even out better when we have the official kernel source for the DHD, I think.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z using XDA

So most ICS based roms have roughly the same battery life?
I'm current on the audacity beta, getting about 20 hours with no charge with moderate use. Gingerbread i could go about a day and acouple more hours.

I'm a bit bitter that I can only use 3G or higher on Bell with my DZ...that means if I want better battery life I need to ditch mobile data altogether. Boo.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z using XDA

Better battery life
All,
I was just about to install "Elitemod", which claims to be tuned to bits wrt battery life, and I noticed AudicityBeta1 was released.. so i thought Id try it out.. and
And yes I think its much better!.. this morning I used it a bit, made a dozen phonecalls, sync'd email and for the first time the "voicecalls" are less than the screen.
(see attachment)
Im wondering if the recently released qualcomm drivers made a difference..
At this rate it will last ~40hrs... probably less but as long as it lasts the day Im happy
Anyone else want to confirm my findings?

Truth about Battery Life

So now that our JB roms are stable enough for daily useage, let's talk seriously about battery life. It's something it seems like no one wants to talk about, yet it's probably THE most important factor in deciding what your daily driver is going to be.
I don't want this to be another "what's the best battery life" thread, but rather a systematic collection of battery data from a variety of users on a variety of roms/kernels.
Now, as far as I understand, kernels make the biggest difference when it comes to battery life. Also, we know that not all phones are created equal (voltage groups a, b, and c). What I'd like to do is make a spreadsheet detailing which rom/kernel combos get the best battery life. I think the best way to do that would be to determine screen on time with airplane mode on. Would anyone be willing to help with this?
The Galaxy Note is the best phone ever.

My experience with JB is horrible battery life. I ended going back to Paranoid .4 (CM9) for the battery life. JB's new features weren't worth it to me. I'm currently trying out the latest German 4.04 release and even it does much better on battery life compared to JB. JB is still a work in progress and I'll wait for better incarnations.

gedster314 said:
My experience with JB is horrible battery life. I ended going back to Paranoid .4 (CM9) for the battery life. JB's new features weren't worth it to me. I'm currently trying out the latest German 4.04 release and even it does much better on battery life compared to JB. JB is still a work in progress and I'll wait for better incarnations.
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Mine is actually doing good..
I'm on the original rom (latest version) , 9h 15min on battery, and still 43% left..
HSPA is always on, surfed the internet for hour of 2 today, played some games, text,...
Doing pretty well!
Never tested JB on it though.

If you want good battery life ....
1. In Google maps app go into settings and untick all the background data connection settings.
2. In Rom settings turn off....
Google Back up and restore
All location settings turn them off
GPS settings off
In accounts and sync turn off all Google and Facebook auto account sync settings and sync manually.
Finally don't turn on Google now in jb ROMs it eats battery.
The above steps will see you battery life improve lots!
Press thanks

Flashed Jellycore v1 build 3 this morning, been mainly browsing the internet, Facebook and xda all day. These are my battery stats:
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Stable Firmware with less battery drain

Hello,
Please help , I 'm new in this forum .
My English is not good and therefore it is for me very laboriously to search the points all the posts .
I bought a new Yotaphone . 2
It is installed following firmware: the build number is : KTU84L.4.4.3 - S01-003 - VIT.0.3.50a
There is no automatic firmware update .
Yotaphone informed me that this is a Vodafone firmware and therefore there is no update .
I want to use the Yotaphone to 90 % of GPS navigation with the E - Ink display on my mountain bike .
Therefore is important for me, that is the ROM stable and has little battery drain .
What Firmware version can you recommend me .
I live in Germany and the menu language should be in German .
I have read that is to be flashing with the tool YotaPhoneFlasher .
Where there is a detailed guide , so that nothing 's wrong when flashing and the unit is then scrap .
(wrote with Google Translate)
Thanks
Dieter

There is no one to help me?

Can you go into settings then tap about phone and tell me what android version you are running? Are you running android 4.4.3?
A lot of people have said that KitKat (android version 4.4.3) is better then other firmwares for battery life. So if your running 4.4.3 then stay there for now.
I haven't used KitKat on yotaphone (android version 4.4.3) but I can tell you don't update to lollipop (android version 5.0) if you need good battery life.

Use RU ROM they are updating very frequently.

Battery life on Marshmallow Beta seems quite good to me, so that's something to try

evilracer123 said:
Battery life on Marshmallow Beta seems quite good to me, so that's something to try
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I just upgraded to RU 1.31. How much SOT do you get? And, whats the idle drain per hour I can expect?
Is it better or worser than 4.4.3?

prasathvishnu said:
I just upgraded to RU 1.31. How much SOT do you get? And, whats the idle drain per hour I can expect?
Is it better or worser than 4.4.3?
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Currently battery is at 60% and sot is at 2h30min, which is more than enough for me. Idle drain I don't know about.

evilracer123 said:
Currently battery is at 60% and sot is at 2h30min, which is more than enough for me. Idle drain I don't know about.
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2.5 hours with 60% Battery Left - That is very good.
I upgraded only today early morning with literally no extra applications installed except WhatsApp. In fact, with Titanium Backup, I uninstalled few Google and Yota Apps which I never use. Waiting to evaluate the battery life in few days.

Hi there,
EPD + GPS for sunlight-navigation sounds like a good idea with the yotaphone 2. Especially in direct sunlight.
I had great experiences with that phone regarding battery life using EPD only.
BUT you should keep in mind that yotaphone has a rather small battery (2500mAh) compared to similar phones on the market at the moment.
GPS navigation uses alot of power for GPS itself and CPU power for navigation. So a normal screen would only cause 30-40% on normal displays with full brightness in summary.
If you compare pure battery power with other cheap phones like xiaomi redmi 4 pro/prime (4200mAh) and a decent LCD IPS this could also work out for you + better bad light/night time usability.
€dit: would still go with the yotaphone since it has a galaxy S5 grade AMOLED display

EMUI vs CM 13

I want to hear the experiences you guys have with emui vs cm13.
At some points i always wonder if i should flash back to emui because of a few bugs and problems so i wanna hear a few experiences to see what you guys think about it.
- generally speaking i would love to hear what you like in comparision to the other
- how's your battery life, usage experience, how you think about the current bugs, etc.
- are you thinking to change rom to emui or to cm13 and why?

cm gives a more stock experience compared to emui, better battery life. unless youre going to update to emui 5, cm is better

endrancer said:
I want to hear the experiences you guys have with emui vs cm13.
At some points i always wonder if i should flash back to emui because of a few bugs and problems so i wanna hear a few experiences to see what you guys think about it.
- generally speaking i would love to hear what you like in comparision to the other
- how's your battery life, usage experience, how you think about the current bugs, etc.
- are you thinking to change rom to emui or to cm13 and why?
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With papsi ROM everything is fine by battery life is miserable with an outdoor brightness and mobile data on (only few hours).
Speedo; very descent battery life , zooming is fine but video recording is not, still buggy and finger print not working
Till now I think the best available firmware is stock but if speedo_thc managed to get his ROM as functioning as papsi's he will be the best daily driver for me.

muhammad Shohayeb said:
With papsi ROM everything is fine by battery life is miserable with an outdoor brightness and mobile data on (only few hours).
Speedo; very descent battery life , zooming is fine but video recording is not, still buggy and finger print not working
Till now I think the best available firmware is stock but if speedo_thc managed to get his ROM as functioning as papsi's he will be the best daily driver for me.
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papsi's isn't that bad on battery life for me. i get two days usage with constant bt connections and a few messengers push. you will have monitor wakelocks and stuff to optimize as much as possible though.
i am using
- amplify (no donate)
- greenify with xposed + root
but have 3 messengers, email and android wear on push at all times.

Cm notifications fixed emui not

cm's will always break after few months of heavy using, stock wont. sure cm has more customizeable tweaks and in some cases better battery life (never in my cases). evey device i have tried cm it always starts randomly rebooting, lagging and eats battery like hell(hahe had this issue with multiple devices). i prefer stock base and then rethemed to whatever you choose.

Currently, no custom rom is stable enough for daily use. I still love the EMUI camera and the finger print gestures. I will stick with EMUI 4 for now hopefully until custom roms are more stable and fully functional.

I've used papsi's rom for a few weeks as a daily. So far the only downside to me, is the battery life compared to stock emui.

Papsi's cm13 is better than stock EMUI on almost every points except the battery. I'm using his rom since he published it and it's pretty stable but the battery life can be a deal breaker. Some optimization would make the rom great for daily usage.

Nexx_ said:
Papsi's cm13 is better than stock EMUI on almost every points except the battery. I'm using his rom since he published it and it's pretty stable but the battery life can be a deal breaker. Some optimization would make the rom great for daily usage.
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I agree with you, i would use his rom but the problems with the camera and battery life and the phone getting too hot when playing games or watching videos is what keeps me on EMUI since i never had issues with notifications.

Bad battery life on all phones? A curse?

Hello, so okay I agree the title is a bit too dramatic but I'm veryyy frustrated, so basically I've owned three android smartphones so far:
Samsung galaxy grand prime ve
OnePlus X
OnePlus 5
(a steady increase in specs)
And I have a question: why can I not get reasonable battery performance on any phone? On my oneplus X when I bought it, for the first few months I used to get 2.5 SOT and then months later I started getting barely an hour (45mins). No matter which roms or kernels I flashed, it made no difference. Battery saver on? No difference Greenify on? A small negligible amount saved...
Infuriated by this I finally came to buy a OnePlus 5 which I thought would put an end to this. However here I am, full of my battery saving habits still in me (which I have done so much research on to make sure they don't make it worse, trust me, I could write a battery saving wiki) and with a draining oneplus 5 in my hands. I've tried different roms and different kernels but still the same bad problem : a DRAINING BATTERY... I can get through a day with 3hrs SOT if battery saving mode is turned on but with a normal stock OOS I could never. I don't understand... I've tried BBS and GSam to try and find the source of this and still nothing. So I have resorted to the unofficial RR which comes with Lighting kernel which I have underclocked and use with battery saving mode on (not android's, ex kernel manager's one). So I have finally turned to xda so someone may be able to help me.
Cheers
Ps: I don't believe I am a target of the NSA and I have a special phone that is customized to track me...

I'd be looking at the apps you haveinstalled... Sounds like there's something running in background eating away at your battery life...
Or it's an energy vampire living in your home....

I am getting radically different battery performance with this phone day to day. One day it'll get a solids like 6.5 hours SoT and others I'll get like 4. Various issues it seems. Shouldnt be that hard to get consistent battery life.

Agree with above. Only common denominator here is you / your apps. But, stock+magisk with franco kernel and the app naptime is enough for me to get 5-7h sot out a full battery, but usually it's half full when I go to bed

You've mentioned that you tried many things to resolve this but I'll go ahead and tell you the things I use to make my battery last a little longer (hopefully there is something useful for you)
- Greenify with Magisk Module
- ForceDoze
- Location almost always on battery saving mode
- Force Doze for Google Play Services Magisk Module
- if WiFi is on, data will be off, and if data is on, then WiFi is off
- Bluetooth is always off if nothing is connected to it
- brightness is kept relatively low/halfway at most, the majority of the time
Running unofficial RR with Lightning Kernel v11 (1000hz version)
All this combined gives me roughly 9-9.5 SOT (about 140 apps installed)
If I forgot to mention anything, I'll edit it in here!

I've been very careful with my apps and I can't see what could be causing, I've tried third party Facebook apps instead of the official one for example and there's nothing strange installed.

Im_Mattgame said:
Hello, so okay I agree the title is a bit too dramatic but I'm veryyy frustrated, so basically I've owned three android smartphones so far:
Samsung galaxy grand prime ve
OnePlus X
OnePlus 5
(a steady increase in specs)
And I have a question: why can I not get reasonable battery performance on any phone? On my oneplus X when I bought it, for the first few months I used to get 2.5 SOT and then months later I started getting barely an hour (45mins). No matter which roms or kernels I flashed, it made no difference. Battery saver on? No difference Greenify on? A small negligible amount saved...
Infuriated by this I finally came to buy a OnePlus 5 which I thought would put an end to this. However here I am, full of my battery saving habits still in me (which I have done so much research on to make sure they don't make it worse, trust me, I could write a battery saving wiki) and with a draining oneplus 5 in my hands. I've tried different roms and different kernels but still the same bad problem : a DRAINING BATTERY... I can get through a day with 3hrs SOT if battery saving mode is turned on but with a normal stock OOS I could never. I don't understand... I've tried BBS and GSam to try and find the source of this and still nothing. So I have resorted to the unofficial RR which comes with Lighting kernel which I have underclocked and use with battery saving mode on (not android's, ex kernel manager's one). So I have finally turned to xda so someone may be able to help me.
Cheers
Ps: I don't believe I am a target of the NSA and I have a special phone that is customized to track me...
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Try with basic steps. Factory reset then:
1) Have totally stock OP5 - no "battery saving tricks", no apps. Run a bit. What is SOT? If less then average of 5-6 hours - either you have a "curse"/NSA tracking you or defective hardware.
2) Install your "battery saving trick" one by one testing after now and then. Are there any improvements in SOT? If yes, then write your wiki page, share your findings . If not, write your wiki page and tell us what application is a culprit.
3) Rinse and repeat until no more application left to install or you got bored.

I'm getting incredibly poor battery life after the latest update. I haven't let it fully deplete yet so maybe it just needs recalibrated?

yubimusubi said:
I'm getting incredibly poor battery life after the latest update. I haven't let it fully deplete yet so maybe it just needs recalibrated?
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There`s alot of sstuff activated on your 1+5. Try turning it off and check the SoT afterwards. Also some people were complaining because their Android-System was consuming way too much energy.

Jackson1231 said:
There`s alot of sstuff activated on your 1+5. Try turning it off and check the SoT afterwards. Also some people were complaining because their Android-System was consuming way too much energy.
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Oops, I meant to follow up on this. Android System and Google Play were causing a lot of wakelocks. I cleared cache in the Google Play and Google Services apps sad now I'm back to my typical 6-7 hours SoT.