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Iv always considered battery life a very important factor in my purchasing of a phone and was one of the big reasons i moved from my Desire HD to the Nexus S (amongst many others). However having been on the android scene for a while im used to tinkering with kernels and roms etc and due to the new battery graph in gingerbread im now able to make direct comparisons rom by rom and kernel by kernel to see how they all differ. This is all shown + explained below.
First id like to explain my method;
I install the rom and kernel with the same apps I always use and charge the phone fully until i am about to go to sleep. I then unplug the phone and leave it in the exactly the same place on my desk with exactly the same settings (sync intervals etc) and i kill all apps before i leave it just to make sure the test is fair.
In the morning i then take a screen shot of the battery life over the period of usually 8 hours and will upload this for you to see. I then look at the over-night battery drain as a comparison on how good battery life is on specific roms and kernels.
Justification - Many of you may be thinking who cares about standby battery life? I care about the battery when im using it!?
Well although that's valid there are many reasons i have taken this approach;
1. It is completely fair i.e. no individual differences such as 'im a heavy user' but we all have different definitions of a 'heavy user'. This is eliminated by the fact the phone is not used and thus the same every time (no individual differences)
2. If a phone has severe battery drain during sleep general knowledge should dictate that battery drain should increase when the screen is on, cpu is working and your syncing your facebook wall, thus a direct correlation with sleep battery drain and usage drain should be apparent.
Therefore i have decided over the next few days/weeks etc i will upload on a regular basis a screenshot of the battery drain over night, along with the battery use details and screen on time etc etc. In addition to the rom and kernel info and i hope that over time this proves to be a very useful thread.
I have been doing this over the last few days on a less strict system and there have been some VERY interesting results which i will upload over the next few days.
(Just a final note iv never really done anything like this on xda before so if its a stupid idea then please tell me now so i dont waste my time doing it, however if people are really interested please let me know and il make sure i do my best!!)
Thanks for reading my extremely long post!
Bratfink
SCREENSHOT 1: This was using modacos custom rom r10 and the kernel that comes with it, i had quite a short sleep (about 6 hours) but the curve pretty much shows what the point im trying to make is. The battery life is great!!
SCREENSHOT 2: This is CM7 Nightly build 27# with Netarchy's latest 1.2.1 kernel and although i didnt use the screen once of charge for a few minutes as you can see once the screen was off battery life barely decreased and was over a long period of time.
If anyone wants me to test specific combos please let me know.
I'm actually looking forward to reading your results.
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Yep, this would actually be pretty useful. Good luck and good work!
i'm a sucker for these types of tests, always love doing them and seeing the results. post soon!
I like others will be keeping an interested eye on your findings.
Uploading pictures of modaco r10 with it's own original kernel today. Its an interesting result!
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Uploaded to OP
I'm interested too.
Can u try modaco r10 with Netarchy 1.2.1 kernel.
bratfink said:
Iv always considered battery life a very important factor in my purchasing of a phone and was one of the big reasons i moved from my Desire HD to the Nexus S (amongst many others). However having been on the android scene for a while im used to tinkering with kernels and roms etc and due to the new battery graph in gingerbread im now able to make direct comparisons rom by rom and kernel by kernel to see how they all differ. This is all shown + explained below.
First id like to explain my method;
I install the rom and kernel with the same apps I always use and charge the phone fully until i am about to go to sleep. I then unplug the phone and leave it in the exactly the same place on my desk with exactly the same settings (sync intervals etc) and i kill all apps before i leave it just to make sure the test is fair.
In the morning i then take a screen shot of the battery life over the period of usually 8 hours and will upload this for you to see. I then look at the over-night battery drain as a comparison on how good battery life is on specific roms and kernels.
Justification - Many of you may be thinking who cares about standby battery life? I care about the battery when im using it!?
Well although that's valid there are many reasons i have taken this approach;
1. It is completely fair i.e. no individual differences such as 'im a heavy user' but we all have different definitions of a 'heavy user'. This is eliminated by the fact the phone is not used and thus the same every time (no individual differences)
2. If a phone has severe battery drain during sleep general knowledge should dictate that battery drain should increase when the screen is on, cpu is working and your syncing your facebook wall, thus a direct correlation with sleep battery drain and usage drain should be apparent.
Therefore i have decided over the next few days/weeks etc i will upload on a regular basis a screenshot of the battery drain over night, along with the battery use details and screen on time etc etc. In addition to the rom and kernel info and i hope that over time this proves to be a very useful thread.
I have been doing this over the last few days on a less strict system and there have been some VERY interesting results which i will upload over the next few days.
(Just a final note iv never really done anything like this on xda before so if its a stupid idea then please tell me now so i dont waste my time doing it, however if people are really interested please let me know and il make sure i do my best!!)
Thanks for reading my extremely long post!
Bratfink
SCREENSHOT 1: This was using modacos custom rom r10 and the kernel that comes with it, i had quite a short sleep (about 6 hours) but the curve pretty much shows what the point im trying to make is. The battery life is great!!
If anyone wants me to test specific combos please let me know.
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I'd be interested in seeing CM7, just whatever nightly build you manage to catch.
I don't think that result will give you precise result.
I found that statistic is wrong sometimes.
It is better to measure using "play video loop".
So, find a movie, set to the same brightness and play in loop?
gogol said:
I don't think that result will give you precise result.
I found that statistic is wrong sometimes.
It is better to measure using "play video loop".
So, find a movie, set to the same brightness and play in loop?
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Unfortunately that will not give you how well the rom does while it is idle.
I'm really looking forward to your results. My only issue with this phone is the battery life is terrible. I ordered an extended battery off Ebay 3 weeks ago and have yet to receive it. Never ordering anything from Hong Kong again!
Fuse8499 said:
I'm really looking forward to your results. My only issue with this phone is the battery life is terrible. I ordered an extended battery off Ebay 3 weeks ago and have yet to receive it. Never ordering anything from Hong Kong again!
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What were you using before that you consider this phone to have bad battery life? By far this phone has the best battery life of any Android device I've owned. If you want bad battery life, get an Evo. That is horrific battery life.
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Uploading pictures of modaco r10 with it's own original kernel today. Its an interesting result!
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I am looking forward to the rest of these, however just a quick question. What was your battery use like in that situation with the stock ROM? Just for reference, because I'm thinking I might switch to modaco soon. Thanks!
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Iv got a few more screenies but it seems i may have to end this thread prematurely. Its the SNS or 2.3 but idle battery usage for me is pretty much identical no matter what the kernel or rom (il upload a CM7 + Netarchy 1.2.1 shot top op). This was unexpected on my behalf because with my DHD kernels and roms had a big impact on idle battery consumption. I have noticed however that without a full wipe when changing some kernels such as with M r10 idle battery life can increase drastically. I will continue for the next few days and if i dont see any big changes i may move method to a video loop or something of the sort.
Interesting find
I found out something today that may interest may of you. I was messing around with the sleep profiles on SetCpu with netarchys kernel and i found that its better to leave the range from 100-800 than 100-400 or less. This i believe is because when the phone is asleep and carries out a process it will be forced to clock to the maximum of 400mhz and then stay at that speed for 10 seconds, instead of say going up to 800mhz for 1-2 seconds to complete the same process. So a tip to you would be set your profile to 100-800mhz conservative and see what you get!
bratfink said:
I found out something today that may interest may of you. I was messing around with the sleep profiles on SetCpu with netarchys kernel and i found that its better to leave the range from 100-800 than 100-400 or less. This i believe is because when the phone is asleep and carries out a process it will be forced to clock to the maximum of 400mhz and then stay at that speed for 10 seconds, instead of say going up to 800mhz for 1-2 seconds to complete the same process. So a tip to you would be set your profile to 100-800mhz conservative and see what you get!
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This kinda enforces the point that SetCPU is useless for the NS unless you really want to overclock...
Any battery saving tactics used buy lowering screen off profiles are counteracted by the system process;( So i think in the context of battery life you are probably better to not use SetCPU
JD
bratfink said:
Iv got a few more screenies but it seems i may have to end this thread prematurely. Its the SNS or 2.3 but idle battery usage for me is pretty much identical no matter what the kernel or rom (il upload a CM7 + Netarchy 1.2.1 shot top op). This was unexpected on my behalf because with my DHD kernels and roms had a big impact on idle battery consumption. I have noticed however that without a full wipe when changing some kernels such as with M r10 idle battery life can increase drastically. I will continue for the next few days and if i dont see any big changes i may move method to a video loop or something of the sort.
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I would definitely move to a video loop or some other 'heavy use' task because when you think about it, not too much can really be changed when almost no power is being used in the first place.
You could also just mention your general feeling for the battery life of each rom, because quite often that is what I go by as my usage varies depending on a range of things (school day or weekend etc) .
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Could you please test modaco r10 with Netarchy's latest 1.2.1 kernel ?
I would love to see the difference between modaco's default kernel vs netarchy's kernel.
On CM nightly 13, I just went 11 hours and I'm at 90%. That's 1/2% an hour. Not bad. That is with stock kernel.
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Hi all,
Just wondering if your all seeing reduced battery life with the ICS builds for the DesireZ?
I was using Miui (2.x) and now trying out Ice Cream JIBWich,and Im discovering the battery life is most certainly less. I've also tried CM9 Alpha and Andromedus r13, all roughly the same.
Battery Widget reports on average 40(ish)mA in sleep, I havent compared it to Miui but just wondering I've done something wrong here..
Install procedure this time was a factory wipe.
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Angelo
I don't know if my battery life is worse on ICS than on CM or stock 2.3. Because I don't have any logs of battery life. Maybe I will do some tests in next week, just for curious.
So... I'm getting 30mA - 34mA drain on idle on Andromadus v13 with default kernel. It is lower than yours. I'm using latest radio now (.19).
After implementing new features and fixing bugs, there is a stage of development called optimization. That is when you will see all the battery life milked out of a rom.
And none of the ICS roms are even close to that stage, so battery will probably not be indicative of the final product.
I don't have any hard numbers, but based on my moderate usage, (8am to 11pm) I go from 100% to about 40%. Fairly good IMO when compared to sense roms (that i'm used to) but not as good when compared to AOSP GB or MIUI roms..
Hmm I found my battery doing suprisingly well compared to aosp gb, now that I'm using ics its lasting longer than ever.
It probably has to do with better app/process management.
That's my experience..
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Well, this might sound strange to say but i'm actually getting the best battery life i've ever had out of ICS so far with Andromadus v13/Jibwich 1.3 on my phone. I seem to manage to get really long charges of at least 48 hours. Maybe i'm not using my phone as much as i was with GB? I'm not quite sure if that's the case or not, but i'm consistently getting longer lasting charges than ever before with GB.
Thing is though that ICS ROMs DO seem to drain the battery more while the phone is actively being used (in comparison to AOSP GB ROMs), this seems to be the case for me, as well as some other people that i've seen.
There were a few strange versions of Andromadus and Jibwich though which seemed to cause severe battery drain for me. Fortunately, that hasn't been the case with any of the latest versions.
All of that said, i still don't think anything compares to the battery life on G2 Slim (Gingerbread AOSP ROM), that ROM has ridiculously good battery life. With that one, i'd use my phone a fair bit (couple hours of tethering, gaming, lots of texting and calls) and it would still last for at least 44 hours or so.
In the end though, there are still some GB ROMs that have much worse battery life than ICS for me. For example, all CM7 variants that i've tried has always had this frustrating radio related battery drain, then some Sense ROMs seem to drain the battery a bit more than AOSP ROMs too. In response to the OP, i never really got amazing battery life with MIUI, so ICS has been a much better experience so far in that regard.
What i do know for sure though is that battery life with ICS is MUCH better than the stock gingerbread OTA update that our phones got.
thanks all,
I've done some checking and according to battery monitor, my JIBWIch rom seams to be fluctuating .. from 36mA to 97mA in standby which to be indicates something's running.. not sure what... Anyone recommend a decent process monitor, there's soo many of them
>After implementing new features and fixing bugs, there is a stage of development called >optimization. That is when you will see all the battery life milked out of a rom.
>And none of the ICS roms are even close to that stage, so battery will probably not be >indicative of the final product.
Agreed..
I'll see how it goes but I might have to go back to Miui (GB) as I use the phone for work..
asantaga said:
thanks all,
I've done some checking and according to battery monitor, my JIBWIch rom seams to be fluctuating .. from 36mA to 97mA in standby which to be indicates something's running.. not sure what... Anyone recommend a decent process monitor, there's soo many of them
>After implementing new features and fixing bugs, there is a stage of development called >optimization. That is when you will see all the battery life milked out of a rom.
>And none of the ICS roms are even close to that stage, so battery will probably not be >indicative of the final product.
Agreed..
I'll see how it goes but I might have to go back to Miui (GB) as I use the phone for work..
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Here was my (personal) record breaking charge on Andromadus v13 https://www.dropbox.com/gallery/12263406/1/screenies?h=c9ef42
You can see part of my configuration there (radio and CPU speeds).
On top of what's already there, i use supercharger RC6.9 with option 6 and nitro-lag-nullifier.
here are my usage patterns for good battery life:
-I generally stick to 2g networks as i don't do much web browsing while i'm out but when i do, i just switch to 3g.
-I also don't regularly use any task killers but if i detect any choppyness i kill app using Advanced Task Killer.
-I don't use auto-brightness and instead i just use the notification power widget.
-I do lots and lots of texting, some calls here and there, i often use wifi hotspot and i play 2d games a little bit at times, so i'm generally a light-moderate user.
-I also "debloat" as much as possible by getting rid of any system apps that i don't use.
On a random note, right now, i'm using Jibwich 1.3 and it is so great, battery life seems the same as andromadus v13 but this ROM is actually much more smooth and fluid on the home screen.
I hope this helps a bit, give me a thanks if you found this useful ;D
hey thanks for this, yeah very nice!
Just occured to me, im currently in Madrid (Roaming), and the phone's on 2g at the moment, I WONDER.. just wonder, if its constantly hunting for 3G signal.. now that would account for the random power demands...
Meanwhilst I found this app http://androidadvices.com/save-battery-android-phone-enabling-2g-network/
Apart from adding a 2g/3g toggle it also makes the phone go to 2g when sleeping.. I mean when its sleeping we dont need 3g access....
Anyone else tried it? or can recommend a different better/app?
asantaga said:
hey thanks for this, yeah very nice!
Just occured to me, im currently in Madrid (Roaming), and the phone's on 2g at the moment, I WONDER.. just wonder, if its constantly hunting for 3G signal.. now that would account for the random power demands...
Meanwhilst I found this app http://androidadvices.com/save-battery-android-phone-enabling-2g-network/
Apart from adding a 2g/3g toggle it also makes the phone go to 2g when sleeping.. I mean when its sleeping we dont need 3g access....
Anyone else tried it? or can recommend a different better/app?
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Go to settings --> wireless and networks --> mobile networks
Now see if you have "use only 2g networks" checked. If you do, that'd be why you're always connecting to 2g networks.
As a battery saving tip, it's best to always check that option when you don't need mobile data (like when you're at home and wifi is available).
In addition to that, if that option is NOT checked, then your phone will connect to 3g networks where applicable, you have to check if your carrier actually uses 3g networks on your plan.
Also that app seems fine, but i wouldn't use the "use 2g when sleep" option because that could cause problems with reception between waking and sleeping because it'll be erratically switching between basebands all the time.
asantaga said:
Hi all,
Just wondering if your all seeing reduced battery life with the ICS builds for the DesireZ?
I was using Miui (2.x) and now trying out Ice Cream JIBWich,and Im discovering the battery life is most certainly less. I've also tried CM9 Alpha and Andromedus r13, all roughly the same.
Battery Widget reports on average 40(ish)mA in sleep, I havent compared it to Miui but just wondering I've done something wrong here..
Install procedure this time was a factory wipe.
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Angelo
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It looks to me that yes. Tried 3 ICS inluding JIBWich and CM9 based and battery life was reduced to me about 1/3 maybe 1/4. looks like that. Hope some improovment will come in near future.
I'm running Andromadus v13 and it seems to be only a bit worse than the latest CM7 nightly. However, this is only my subjective opinion, it could be that I'm using my phone more with ICS
I also have the .19 radio and the tweaks associated with v13.
Well from what i've seen, ICS has very steep and sudden drops in the battery stats graph when the phone is being used. This is in contrast to many gingberbread ROMs which just have a sloping negative curve on the battery stats graph. This seems to indicate that ICS uses more battery when the phone is being actively used.
I'll post pics after this current charge is over to show a comparison of ICS battery life with Andro v13 and GB battery with Virtuous G-lite 2.0.1.
I don't see any difference between GB and the ICS battery usage, maybe because i allways configure it from begining and don't restore apps via titanium backup or any other app...
Also battery needs to calibrate under new ROM and after few charges you will see it working little bit longer and longer...
ps. Do you have disabled Google Talk on ICS fresh install? He is always on after installing and eats a lot of battery.
louloudi said:
I don't see any difference between GB and the ICS battery usage, maybe because i allways configure it from begining and don't restore apps via titanium backup or any other app...
Also battery needs to calibrate under new ROM and after few charges you will see it working little bit longer and longer...
ps. Do you have disabled Google Talk on ICS fresh install? He is always on after installing and eats a lot of battery.
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I also configure all new rom's from begining and on Affinity 2 - my battery in averange usage die after ~16h but on ISC os about ~13h, I don't know why.
My battery after full charge get 4.212 V , tried clear battery stats bin no effect
My avg runtime on one charge on CM7 w/o oc, with ilwt or pershoot kernel is 60hours (yes! 3 "work days") or atleast 2 days with 50-70 min calls and 25-35 SMS
Turning data and/or wifi when needed makes phone battery least looooonger...
Now testing Andromadus Audacity b1, charged 7.5h ago (4207mV), i will post when empty (or near ~3600-3650)
Also remember that we don't have the proper kernel source for our phone. There are some tweaks that can't really be made yet, and probably a bunch of wasted cpu time where errors and stuff get worked through.
GB battery life was worse than Froyo at the same stage of development. It'll even out better when we have the official kernel source for the DHD, I think.
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So most ICS based roms have roughly the same battery life?
I'm current on the audacity beta, getting about 20 hours with no charge with moderate use. Gingerbread i could go about a day and acouple more hours.
I'm a bit bitter that I can only use 3G or higher on Bell with my DZ...that means if I want better battery life I need to ditch mobile data altogether. Boo.
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Better battery life
All,
I was just about to install "Elitemod", which claims to be tuned to bits wrt battery life, and I noticed AudicityBeta1 was released.. so i thought Id try it out.. and
And yes I think its much better!.. this morning I used it a bit, made a dozen phonecalls, sync'd email and for the first time the "voicecalls" are less than the screen.
(see attachment)
Im wondering if the recently released qualcomm drivers made a difference..
At this rate it will last ~40hrs... probably less but as long as it lasts the day Im happy
Anyone else want to confirm my findings?
Hello all
I have been roaming around XDA for a very long time now and I finally made an account because I simply cannot find an answer. I have a samsung vibrant and not the 4g nor can I upgrade(long story). I use my phone when I need it and i text alot. But lately my battery life hasn't been any good, I've tried reconditioning and the whole bit and nothing seems to give me my needed battery life. I am currently using ICS passion 13 RC1 and it works great, when Im not doing anything -.-; When I use it like for the internet or text a lot it drains. I got to 48% in 2 hours one time and thats with limited background processes. I know ALL about the keeping background proccesses and data using apps down so I hardly have any apps installed, which is very irritating at times, I dont even use the facebook app for that reason. I tried many different roms and it seemed Axura had done that best at one point but it was taken down or is no longer supported for whatever reason so I am now in search for a rom that can get me through the day. I text a lot and web browse occasionally. I dont have wifi so i cannot use that to save battery life while surfing so thats out. I would appreciate all the help and will try every rom if i have to lol XD
I appologize for the long message but I am so tired of hesitating to use my phone as a smart phone.
I get good battery life on the ICS Euphoria ROM. Your battery could be shot, you might try replacing it.
Any of the 2.3 or newer roms are going to get bad battery life. Fishmanmod's updating of Bionics has been very smooth and getting great battery life for me.
I find that battery life between 2.2 and ics is pretty much identical for me as long as there are no wakelocks preventing deep sleep. I'm currently on CM9 nightly w/ glitch kernel and deep idle enabled in nstools and have no battery life problems.
You could also look into getting an official 1800mah battery if you really need more juice
ICS Slim hands down the best.
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Your issue is Passion. That ROM chews through battery worse than any I've ever used in the 2 years I've had my phone.
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Its not just your Rom, I am on the CM9 nightly and noticed ICS ate my battery by noon today. I was down to 3% from 7am. Granted I am toying with it a bit more but I was still at work so I couldnt use it non stop and I wasnt even watching videos or listening to music on it. I have updated the kernel to SubZero 34 to see if that helps.
Chances are, your battery has lost some of its ability to hold a charge. I recommend buying a new OEM battery, chances are it'll increase your battery life by a good two or three hours.
So far, I haven't noticed a significant variation in battery use in various ROMs, I've found battery life to be more determined by the kernel.
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On a side note, I destroyed my screen by stepping on it a few weeks ago. Ordered a new AMOLED screen (not the LCD knockoffs) and battery life did in crease by about 3-4 hours. Same OS, same battery.
So I think some excess drain could be caused by the screen, which might explain why some phones had such poor battery and others don't. I also no longer have the "graying/shadow" issue that plagues some of these phone.
So far ive had the best battery life with ICS passion RC2.1 and my 1800mah anker battery
Since flashing CM9 and then putting on the SubZero kernel (34) I did a full charge and decharge to test and got 12+ hours on it with my normal use. So I have to say SubZero kernel really helps out if you are on ICS.
I f you dont mind going back to a 2.2 rom I would suggest trying bionix 1.3.1 fishmanMod or Deranged9 fishmanMod alpha 1 both get awesome battery life especially when mixed with juice defender.
I was also using ICS Passion and noticed a significant degradation in available battery life. I have three batteries so I'm confident it was the From. Until then I had been using various Froyo rooms and all seemed to have better battery life than ICS. I personally felt it was more likely to be your kernel choice that would impact battery life. I just switched to the SLIM ICS from and I gave been very impressed with both the battery and the responsiveness. Same quadrant scores as Passion but it feels so much faster
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I haven't taken the dive into ICS yet i may have to try that out.
If you r searching for nice n smooth rom try
[4.0.4][6-Apr]Slim ICS [3.2]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1520919
another thing you can do while flashing wipe battery stats only once....then reboot to normal drain your battery till it reaches 1% charge it full widout any interruption and when it reaches to 100% unplug it and do the calibration from any software available in the market I use Battery Calibration Professionals
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...2ZmZXNpb25hbHMuYmF0dGVyeS5jYWxsaWJyYXRpb24iXQ..
repeat the process for atleast 3 days in a row and you will feel the difference..hit thanks if it helps
@OP ICS is simply not battery friendly. You're going to want to use froyo if battery life is that important to you.
Or you can build a battery friendly ICS rom and let us know how it all is
The later builds of Cyanogenmod9 I have been on the stock kernel and its going all day with moderate use without battery issues.
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Any of the 2.3 or newer roms are going to get bad battery life. Fishmanmod's updating of Bionics has been very smooth and getting great battery life for me.
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Bionix Fishman Mod is the first custom ROM I've ever installed on my phone and it's battery life is AWESOME. I recently added an 1800 mah battery and I've had 24+ hours on one charge with moderate to heavy use. The ROM itself is smooth as glass and no glitches to speak of.
Trying Bionix
Xdogg said:
I f you dont mind going back to a 2.2 rom I would suggest trying bionix 1.3.1 fishmanMod or Deranged9 fishmanMod alpha 1 both get awesome battery life especially when mixed with juice defender.
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I just installed bionix-V FishmanMod Final 3. Fingers crossed. I don't mind switching back to 2.2 as long as I have better battery. However I did notice when I reinstalled ICS before going to bionix that just factory, not even logging into the market. I got 1 day and 7 hours of battery life, granted I did not do much but text occasionally and some web browsing here and there. Is it possible that the android market is constantly checking on stuff or there is some data being proccessed constantly? I do live in an area where my signal is not great for 3g like 1-2 bars.
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I just installed bionix-V FishmanMod Final 3. Fingers crossed. I don't mind switching back to 2.2 as long as I have better battery. However I did notice when I reinstalled ICS before going to bionix that just factory, not even logging into the market. I got 1 day and 7 hours of battery life, granted I did not do much but text occasionally and some web browsing here and there. Is it possible that the android market is constantly checking on stuff or there is some data being proccessed constantly? I do live in an area where my signal is not great for 3g like 1-2 bars.
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Alright so after about a day with the rom, I noticed it's just as bad. I am still getting battery drain and yes I have a new battery in so it is not that. I unplugged it from around noon, did alot of working on it with reflashes and little bits of texting and mostly just scrolling around the O.S. im now at 44%. its been about 5 - 6 hours.
Although I have been switching the battery between 2 phones and their battery meter is very different. like a 5% difference so that may be confusing it. Will update.
Since the beginning of Android one thing has always been an issue with some of the greatest ROMs.
........................Battery life.
Every day lives are drained away by the pleasures and features of such fantastic ROMs... and such things at time seem so hard to bare that we try to change the lives of our battery by going to a different ROM.
So now you have a chance to make a difference, nay, an opportunity to change the lives of many...
This thread is strictly for how to save Battery life. CM9/AOKP have amazing battery life by themselves (but yet can always be made better) But for those on MIUI (Not so great battery life) this will be really useful.
Understand that everyone's device is different and although you may get 15 hours off MIUI/AOKP/CM9 others may only get 4 from them.
Post what it is that helps you achieve maximum Battery life. You may be the one to solve the cure to wowhowdidmybatterylifedroptwentypercentinanhourosis.
Be sure to include:
1. ROM
2. Kernel
3. Tweaks that have been applied through ClockworkMod
4. Apps used to save life
5. What battery you use
6. How long your life lasts
7. Anything else that you think may help
Eclair
Just Eclair
Any Eclair
Shoot me......
But seriously, disabling 3g on ICS saves a ton of battery life.
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marcusant said:
Eclair
Just Eclair
Any Eclair
Shoot me......
But seriously, disabling 3g on ICS saves a ton of battery life.
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Uhhh,,,on ANY ROM...but not a practical solution.
I think the OP is looking for more practical solutions where they are not disabling major features of the smartphone.
kennysvgp08 said:
Be sure to include:
1. ROM
2. Kernel
3. Tweaks that have been applied through ClockworkMod
4. Apps used to save life
5. What battery you use
6. How long your life lasts
7. Anything else that you think may help
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1. CM9, although i think aokp does better.
2. Samurai Kernel, although just about any other ICS kernel should help. The biggest thing that you can change between kernels is the Governor and I/O depending on these two will determine how the CPU runs and in effect will determine battery life. Conservative is just about the best for battery life. If you need slickness and not too worried about battery Ondemand. If you want the best of both worlds i Think Wheatly is a good compromise. Also I/O , Sio is "simple" but VR is flash based so it tends to be the best. Otherwise Noop/Deadline. Also voltage.. undervolting will help limit the amount of well voltage to the CPU. So the lower you can get it the better.
3. Dont have tweaks i apply through CWM but i Run the V6 Supercharger, 3G turbocharger(optional), and the Kick Ass Kernelizer from Zeppelin.
4. I cannot stress this enough, Apps that say they save battery... run... which uses RAM and Resources... meaning its running trying to save you battery, Using battery. Which is stupid... and useless.
5. I have two a 3500Mah and the stock 1.5 year old 1500mah.
6. Typically with 3 hours of display over a period of 15hours (1500 mah) and around 5 hours of display over a period of 22 hours (3500 mah). However this is on wifi, 3g would deduct these a pretty good amount if you have sucky speeds.
He needs to get over it... lol. The only thing that truly saves battery life is managing your connections. There is no magic bullet unfortunately.
PLEASE! Don't tell us to turn off data and never sync the phone. Obviously if you don't use the phone the battery will last forever. I need a phone that can do the following:
Receive emails and texts as they are sent. (I use exchange push)
Last 18 hours on a standard or 1800 mAh battery.
I can just barely make that with stock FC09, I'd love to run ICS but with either CM9 or AOKP I barely make 10 hours.
schnowdapowda said:
He needs to get over it... lol. The only thing that truly saves battery life is managing your connections. There is no magic bullet unfortunately.
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Why must people post unhelpful comments such as the one above? I don't understand the logic there...
anyways since this was aimed at miui I get pretty good battery life with it... (3.5 hours screen on time) nyan v5 ftw! No special features... uv a lot (won't list my settings cuz every phone is different) and no oc... used to use jd but, it saves more battery if you just switch things off manually... really though until I flashed nyan my battery life was atrocious, but now just about on par with the peoples rom (4.5 to 5 hours screen on time!) Oh yeah, all this with the stock battery...
poit said:
PLEASE! Don't tell us to turn off data and never sync the phone. Obviously if you don't use the phone the battery will last forever. I need a phone that can do the following:
Receive emails and texts as they are sent. (I use exchange push)
Last 18 hours on a standard or 1800 mAh battery.
I can just barely make that with stock FC09, I'd love to run ICS but with either CM9 or AOKP I barely make 10 hours.
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On aokp with 1800 mAh i can do about 3Hours of screen on time and 15 Hours of battery life and my phone was awake 75% of the time.
Screenie was at 15%
This was stock Everything Except ROM haha
XxLostSoulxX said:
On aokp with 1800 mAh i can do about 3Hours of screen on time and 15 Hours of battery life and my phone was awake 75% of the time.
Screenie was at 15%
This was stock Everything Except ROM haha
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Think about if your screen was on while the device was awake..your time would be cut in half
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Oh my good golly gosh.
I just realized the best battery life I ever got was on DK28.
So take that. Let's go Frankenstein.
1. CM9 KANG June 02 build.
2. Stock
3. Services for V6 and Search Key Remap
4. Ha!
5. Stock. Came with device...need new one.
6. Depends on use. But I usually get the estimated six hours consistently.
7. If you're going to use a task killer just use the built in one. Overclocking is bad, and in my experience so is undervolting. GTalk, official Facebook application(especially this. Even with notifications off it still is always going), G+, and more are always running and are a drain. No live wallpapers, and no widgets that require constant updating. As much black as possible. Don't use third-party batteries. Obviously turning off 3G, 4G, sync, and such will dramatically increase your battery life.
WAIT! Why am I writing this? There is a freaking optimization guide. Why does this exist? For ****s sake.
Running AOKP build 36, stock, FC09 modem 15 hours running takes me down to 50% batt hour of screen time, constant crappy wifi connection in an area with crappy cell signal sync for everything but email and g chat is every 2 hours (weather and all that). Big thing to save batt for me was turning down my screen brightness. I was also getting crappy battery life till i let this rom install run the battery down to 5% twice.
flastnoles11 said:
Why must people post unhelpful comments such as the one above? I don't understand the logic there...
anyways since this was aimed at miui I get pretty good battery life with it... (3.5 hours screen on time) nyan v5 ftw! No special features... uv a lot (won't list my settings cuz every phone is different) and no oc... used to use jd but, it saves more battery if you just switch things off manually... really though until I flashed nyan my battery life was atrocious, but now just about on par with the peoples rom (4.5 to 5 hours screen on time!) Oh yeah, all this with the stock battery...
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By no means was I saying never enable your 3g/4g.. but the fact remains that the single best way to conserve your battery life is to be smart about managing your connections. I.e. not leaving it on ALL day and to only turn sync on when your actually checking your e-mail.. be that through an app like juice defender or manually toggling. If that's not more helpful than what you posted (UV a lot and don't overclock??? Duh.) than my bad bro!
darkierawr said:
Oh my good golly gosh.
I just realized the best battery life I ever got was on DK28.
So take that. Let's go Frankenstein.
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Something we can all get behind here... I remember I used to get 24+ hours on froyo w/o customs kernels. Le sigh..
ÜBER™ put's it pretty well.
ÜBER™ said:
1. CM9, although i think aokp does better.
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-CM9 still seems cleaner, but AOKP seems better.
ÜBER™ said:
2. Samurai Kernel, although just about any other ICS kernel should help. The biggest thing that you can change between kernels is the Governor and I/O depending on these two will determine how the CPU runs and in effect will determine battery life. Conservative is just about the best for battery life. If you need slickness and not too worried about battery Ondemand. If you want the best of both worlds i Think Wheatly is a good compromise. Also I/O , Sio is "simple" but VR is flash based so it tends to be the best. Otherwise Noop/Deadline. Also voltage.. undervolting will help limit the amount of well voltage to the CPU. So the lower you can get it the better.
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-Spot on.
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3. Dont have tweaks i apply through CWM but i Run the V6 Supercharger, 3G turbocharger(optional), and the Kick Ass Kernelizer from Zeppelin.
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-I don't use the supercharger, but I do apply the same oom ram mods. These help close unused apps when they exceed the applied limit. Based on my experience, it's kept apps under control.
ÜBER™ said:
4. I cannot stress this enough, Apps that say they save battery... run... which uses RAM and Resources... meaning its running trying to save you battery, Using battery. Which is stupid... and useless.
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-THIS +9000! An app that spends all of it's time stopping other apps is wasting just as much "battery." I maintain, Advanced Task Killer, with NO, I repeat NO AUTOKILL. Set a widget on your home page, tap it occasionally to make sure everything is closed. Same effect as the built in task manager, but one single convenient tap.
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5. I have two a 3500Mah and the stock 1.5 year old 1500mah.
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-I use two stock 1500mah batteries and one 3500mah. My wife has the same. All are about 1.5 years old now.
ÜBER™ said:
6. Typically with 3 hours of display over a period of 15hours (1500 mah) and around 5 hours of display over a period of 22 hours (3500 mah). However this is on wifi, 3g would deduct these a pretty good amount if you have sucky speeds.
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-These numbers are pretty much the same for me. I almost always average 3 hours display on the stock battery between games and internet. 5-6 hours on the 3500, but I'm pretty sure it's not reaaallly the 3500mah it claims to be... . I NEVER turn off wifi or 3G, but google autosync is off until I edit my contacts.
schnowdapowda said:
By no means was I saying never enable your 3g/4g.. but the fact remains that the single best way to conserve your battery life is to be smart about managing your connections. I.e. not leaving it on ALL day and to only turn sync on when your actually checking your e-mail.. be that through an app like juice defender or manually toggling. If that's not more helpful than what you posted (UV a lot and don't overclock??? Duh.) then my bad bro!
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I don't turn off my connections at all and get great battery life... and seens how the op states don't say anything about disabling 3g or anything id say your comment was the least helpful on the thread... but at least you tried... don't get into a battle of witts with me, I'm afraid your unarmed...
flastnoles11 said:
I don't turn off my connections at all and get great battery life... and seens how the op states don't say anything about disabling 3g or anything id say your comment was the least helpful on the thread... but at least you tried... don't get into a battle of witts with me, I'm afraid your unarmed...
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Firstly, I'm not trying to get into a pissing match with you. Its pointless. Secondly, the op makes no mention whatsoever of connection status. Thirdly, while you might get decent battery life w/o doing it.. I guarantee you'd do better if you did. Straight facts.
Edit: I am armed. With a small slide out keyboard.
Please follow the format specified by the OP. List the 7 items. Bickering in this thread will not be tolerated.
Thank you for your cooperation
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kennysvgp08 said:
Be sure to include:
1. ROM
2. Kernel
3. Tweaks that have been applied through ClockworkMod
4. Apps used to save life
5. What battery you use
6. How long your life lasts
7. Anything else that you think may help
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1. CM9
2.ShadowKernel (I find nyan colonel to be a little more draining) SIO, conservative
3. None
4.System Tuner Pro configured to UV, under clock to 400mhz on screen off, to close apps that don't automatically restart themselves, configure "auto-kill" so its not as aggressive with killing apps that just stay on, and a few sysctrl edits that I honestly don't think make a difference.
5.stock epic 1500 mAh, my sprint store wouldn't give me an sgsII battery
6. 12-18 hrs depending on use, though it has definitely drained quicker
7.be easy on data! (There kennyG) turn off wifi when your not near your networks, turn off mobile data, Bluetooth, and autosync when your not needing it. (Unless you absolutely need PUSH email for your job or whatever though honestly as far as my job goes if its important enough for me to need the message immediately they will simply dial my phone number. Yeah I'm old fashioned.
- Cm9
- Shadow kernel
- No tweaks
-1800 D710 battery
- I get 15-20 hours depending on how much music I stream during the day.
- I got the biggest boost by using the profiles in CM9 to optimize my connections and syncing depending on where I'm at during the day. I have Wifi at work and home, so I have it toggle my data off during that time period and vice versa when I'm mobile.
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Using AOKP with shadow kernel.
Best thing I did to help with battery life was to turn off all notification options in the FB app. And I set haxsync to download photos only when plugged in.
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Please post your battery life experience in here. I am doing this because if Samsung does come here from time to time, let us show them how many users experience poor battery life with the JB rom. Also, let us ignore wipes or full resets since people may receive this update via OTA or Kies and they should not have to do a full wipe or reset to get a good battery life.
No doubt it is better.
Why make another thread....
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It's definitely about 30% worse.
Common, do you really think project butter is free?
parhelion69 said:
It's definitely about 30% worse.
Common, do you really think project butter is free?
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Yeah I think because my batter life is so damn good.
jb
mine is better than ics in jb. using android revolution hd 12.
If i fully charge mine before i go to, then by the time i wake up after about 7 hours, ive only lost 2% battery power.
Thats with data still so not in flight mode or with the phone turned off.
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I've tried litterally every JB leak so far inckuding the official ones.
I got sick of having bad battery life on all of them, no matter if I wiped etc.
So two weeks ago I put the very first stock rom on my phone (dated may!), and let it run auto updates from my carrier.
It ended up on LH3 and the battery life is night and day better. I'm getting over 24 hours easy now with what I consider to be decent use -phone calls, lots of facebook, whatsapp, browsing and at least 90 mins of mp3 playback each day. I leave wifi, 3g and BT one the whole time and it always gets over 24 hours.
Today though I flashed the newest UK Hutchison 3G official JB as it's my carrier. I'm going to see how this goes but I'm not expecting it to keep up with ICS. I'll be very happy if it does though.
It was terrible on JB for me (less than 24 hours of moderate use).
I disabled google now and installed juice defender and I get at least 2 days and maybe 3 if lighter use.
Swedish ROM is by far the best in battery life.
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Battery life for keeps getting better with each jellybean update. Currently on omega v28 with perseus kernel and battery life is the best its ever been. 24hrs easily with 5± hrs screen time.
On Jellybean i get 6hrs on screen at 25% brightness and 16hrs idle with Wi-Fi off during sleep and whilst using mobile data
WanamLite 4.0, Siyah 1.7RC1 -100mv CPU and -100/-125mv GPU coupled with dualcore only at 1.2Ghz and touch-boost for 600Mhz at results are shown above and below whilst remaining lag free
Other tweaks: EXT4 optimizations, Multi-tasking fix, SQLite tweaks, SD card cache increase for internal&external to help maintain speed
16 hours max and my battery is empty, crazy...
mdfpido said:
Swedish ROM is by far the best in battery life.
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Try switching radio?
Sometimes, battery need more than 2days to settle down. It took me 1week to start seeing my battery performing on par with ICS rom.
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With Google Now: Very bad.
Without Google Now: As good as ICS (very good)
On Polish ROM
monoespacial said:
With Google Now: Very bad.
Without Google Now: As good as ICS (very good)
On Polish ROM
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Agreed.
People complaining about battery life: Disable Google Now and untick every option in Maps!
You will see a huge difference.
Black Dawg Down said:
Agreed.
People complaining about battery life: Disable Google Now and untick every option in Maps!
You will see a huge difference.
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If you disable Google Now it just disables the notifications that it gives you and you can still make searches right?
Ics was much better
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Disabled Google Now, and all maps options.
Battery life is epically rubbish, as expected.
Back to ICS I go.