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Android 6.0 MM Stock - User Experience

Hi all, anyone here flash official MM to their device yet? I'm wondering about user experience. I read a thread on reddit and the top comment has me worried.
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I'm on the beta and apart from the better app switch window, you're literally missing out on nothing. MM + EMUI 4 is glitchy and slow a lot of the time. It's a pity, really.
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So, do other beta testers feel the same way? Let's talk about this...

JT-on said:
Hi all, anyone here flash official MM to their device yet? I'm wondering about user experience. I read a thread on reddit and the top comment has me worried.
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So, do other beta testers feel the same way? Let's talk about this...
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Hello, I am a beta tester for Honor 5x Android 6.0+EMUI 4.0 for L22 (India) variant. It has been around 2 months I am using the beta versions (with different updates with bug fixes), and current versions seems stable. Although there has been a problem of excessive RAM consumption, the phone is pretty stable. We have raised bug for this and Honor dev team is working on the fix. Don't worry, we have rejected 3 requests from Honor in their beta survey to make sure buggy software is not released to the public.
The user experience is better than Android 5.1 + EMUI 3. The UI is improved and smoother than previous version. We have raised requests for new features like OTG support and more camera functions, and hoping that we will get all of those sooner. Keep in mind that by comparing EMUI 4.0 to stock Android will disappoint you as no customized UI matches stock one in the performance aspect.
I am happy with the current release as it is much more stable that earlier ones and still waiting for another update with rest of the bug fixes and requirements incorporated.
If you like stock, you may move to CM13 and other ROMs. Personally I did not try CM yet as there is not fingerprint support. Yes in just 4 months, I am damn addicted to fingerprint and I don't want to try a ROM without FP support. CM developers are damn good and they are working on the FP issue and we will have the resolution sooner.
Finally, whether to go with beta release, or wait for it to release to public or going for CM or CM based ROMs remains your choice. I enrolled to beta testing so that my fellow friends using Honor 5X will have a bug free stable stock software. I might move to CM when the beta testing is over

pank.dhnd said:
Hello, I am a beta tester for Honor 5x Android 6.0+EMUI 4.0 for L22 (India) variant. It has been around 2 months I am using the beta versions (with different updates with bug fixes), and current versions seems stable. Although there has been a problem of excessive RAM consumption, the phone is pretty stable. We have raised bug for this and Honor dev team is working on the fix. Don't worry, we have rejected 3 requests from Honor in their beta survey to make sure buggy software is not released to the public.
The user experience is better than Android 5.1 + EMUI 3. The UI is improved and smoother than previous version. We have raised requests for new features like OTG support and more camera functions, and hoping that we will get all of those sooner. Keep in mind that by comparing EMUI 4.0 to stock Android will disappoint you as no customized UI matches stock one in the performance aspect.
I am happy with the current release as it is much more stable that earlier ones and still waiting for another update with rest of the bug fixes and requirements incorporated.
If you like stock, you may move to CM13 and other ROMs. Personally I did not try CM yet as there is not fingerprint support. Yes in just 4 months, I am damn addicted to fingerprint and I don't want to try a ROM without FP support. CM developers are damn good and they are working on the FP issue and we will have the resolution sooner.
Finally, whether to go with beta release, or wait for it to release to public or going for CM or CM based ROMs remains your choice. A enrolled to beta testing so that my fellow friends using Honor 5X will have a bug free stable stock software. I might move to CM when the beta testing is over
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Same as what you'd say, Release is consuming a lot of RAM, Battery as well Data Comsumption Monitor is having two stages which is makin me taking two step enrollment to save data.
There i found a Bug/Error but unable to report with the team Dev where on Professional camera - No sooner when i ue Flash Light/Torch and immediately open Pro Camera to capture moments it says Close Torch App - Unable to Open Camera App.

currently running marshmallow (RC VERSION) on L22.
there are a lot of changes
1.the notification icons are now colored
2.recent apps are better now
3.audio output via 3.5mm jack has improved.
3.view modes is introduced(similar to dpi changing)
4.incoming call ui is full screen.
5.revamped settings,phone,messaging(white color with dark notification icons)
and all other marshmallow goodies like permission manger,detailed app info etc
on the bad side...
ui buggy and consumes hell lot of ram.
and lags while mutitasking.
hope all this gets improved in the stable release

How is battery?

Demian3112 said:
How is battery?
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Battery looks "OK" in current beta version, same as that of Lollipop.

pank.dhnd said:
Battery looks "OK" in current beta version, same as that of Lollipop.
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Great! What causes the long loading time on apps? Is it Emui self or what?

Demian3112 said:
Great! What causes the long loading time on apps? Is it Emui self or what?
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Looks like EMUI, along with the bug causing excessive RAM consumption.
But with latest build, apps are loading quite faster than earlier, I am not sure which one did you try.

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How is battery?
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Battery looks good but not as custom ROM !
you get around 0520 Hrs of SOT ( Screen on time) on WiFi.
0340 Hrs of SOT ( Screen on time) on using Internet Data.
@pank.dhd
i'm currently on KIW-L22C675B130 this is clean RAM swallower leaves back only 600Mb is this what build are you on ?

kartrikpal said:
Battery looks good but not as custom ROM !
you get around 0520 Hrs of SOT ( Screen on time) on WiFi.
0340 Hrs of SOT ( Screen on time) on using Internet Data.
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So it should be better compared to Emui 3.1?

Demian3112 said:
So it should be better compared to Emui 3.1?
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Not that much as you expect, cause this Build of EMUI where it shows up more battery heating issues when Data Background left on nuit this was not issue on EMUI 3.1

OPO vs D855

Hi all,
New here; long time silent follower/downloader but never posted.
I had a couple of handsets spare in the house and lately have been a bit sick of iOS so decided to dust off the old OPO and G3, and to flash a custom Nougat ROM. I thought I'd end up using the OPO as it's higher spec than the G3.
I've installed AOSP-CAF 7.1 on both phones, with stock Open-GApps.
The interesting thing is that despite the OPO having 50% more RAM and the exact same CPU, the D855 feels much snappier and gives a better user experience. Any ideas on why? Is it the kernel? Bummer at the minute as I'll be forced to use the G3, even though it only has 16GB and 2GB, also with the lower res front camera. With the display being higher res as well, I'd have expected the OPO to trounce the G3! Any ideas?
Thanks!

Change ROM ?

Or change the kernel :highfive:
Seriously, I think that is due to the kernel settings. Sometimes (i remember on Omnirom)，some roms need other kernel settings to feel better and smoother

Gawd said:
Change ROM
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Why? I was wanting something stable & fast; I gather Lineage has bluetooth & Android Auto issues which are both deal breakers for me.
natheux said:
Or change the kernel :highfive:
Seriously, I think that is due to the kernel settings. Sometimes (i remember on Omnirom)，some roms need other kernel settings to feel better and smoother
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Hmmm, thought it may have been the kernel. Looks like it's some trial and error then!
Thanks.

Lol even stock Cos13.1 of OPO will perform better than Lg G3 for sure.

Mr.Ak said:
Lol even stock Cos13.1 of OPO will perform better than Lg G3 for sure.
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That's what I thought too, but when I got the ROM running on the G3 it was definitely smoother. Any suggestions for ROMs/Kernels?
Definitely want Nougat and definitely minimalist/stock Gapps. Don't like the funky custom looks on a lot of builds.

mr_rodge said:
That's what I thought too, but when I got the ROM running on the G3 it was definitely smoother. Any suggestions for ROMs/Kernels?
Definitely want Nougat and definitely minimalist/stock Gapps. Don't like the funky custom looks on a lot of builds.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/development/nightlies-idprophecys-unofficial-t3544385
This is a stable rom based on latest lineage os with builds updated regularly and optimized kernel for as smooth as it gets performance.

Mr.Ak said:
Lol even stock Cos13.1 of OPO will perform better than Lg G3 for sure.
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Mr.Ak said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/development/nightlies-idprophecys-unofficial-t3544385
This is a stable rom based on latest lineage os with builds updated regularly and optimized kernel for as smooth as it gets performance.
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Bluetooth work? Understand there's problems with official Lineage.

mr_rodge said:
Bluetooth work? Understand there's problems with official Lineage.
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No,Bluetooth works perfectly fine.Moreover if you encounter any other issues,the developer of this rom is kind enough to fix it for you.

Had a look through the thread for it, looks promising. All this though, and I dropped the OPO last night. The repair shop has it now, and they've never heard of one. Won't read the sim. Eeek.

[Discussion] Favourite rom and why?

Thought I'd start this discussion just for a place to talk about what rom we're all running at present, for what reasons etc. to perhaps offer and overview of what choices are available for our great device.
I'm currently on Oreo Beta 1 - runs very quickly with such impressive performance, loving the stock camera (though keen to see what future software updates can offer...), with my screen brightness down to 5-10% indoors and on WiFi I'm getting anywhere between 10-12 hours screen on time.
Will be curious to run Lineage when it comes official/stable and will love it when Google camera port is running nicely on our phones as definite enhancements can be had!

Liquid... Constantly working on it to make it better ?

grinch247 said:
Liquid... Constantly working on it to make it better ?
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Nice! I'm curious of it, how do you find it compared to stock? In terms of speed (can't imagine this device being any faster lol), battery life and of course the seemingly dreaded question... Camera quality?

Right now on official OmniROM 8.1. It's fast, extremely stable, has excellent 10 hour screen on time for battery life over 1.5 days(my usage), and has excellent OMS theming support with nice minor OS tweaks and addons like OmniSwitch Recents replacement.
I was running official Oreo OOS but didn't care for the lack of proper theming, but the camera is a tad better and battery life was about the same. Maybe a little less than Omni.

xocomaox said:
Right now on official OmniROM 8.1. It's fast, extremely stable, has excellent 10 hour screen on time for battery life over 1.5 days(my usage), and has excellent OMS theming support with nice minor OS tweaks and addons like OmniSwitch Recents replacement.
I was running official Oreo OOS but didn't care for the lack of proper theming, but the camera is a tad better and battery life was about the same. Maybe a little less than Omni.
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Sounds good to me! Is it the case that some Google camera ports work better on none OOS ROMs? Also with OmniROM, can you run that encrypted?

Try the Validus by Ground Zero Team, rock stable and gives outstanding battery life, lost 5% for 1st hour of screen on.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/gr...roms-feature-development/op5-validus-t3633818
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=817906626617957141

DocRambone said:
Try the Validus by Ground Zero Team, rock stable and gives outstanding battery life, lost 5% for 1st hour of screen on.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/gr...roms-feature-development/op5-validus-t3633818
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=817906626617957141
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Wow now that's an impressive statistic!! Did you tweak the kernel at all or is that with the 'of of the box' tweaks? Also how's the camera on it, do any Google camera ports work?

cd993 said:
Wow now that's an impressive statistic!! Did you tweak the kernel at all or is that with the 'of of the box' tweaks? Also how's the camera on it, do any Google camera ports work?
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No tweaks beside my own changes of rom content. Camera is "snap" camera as seen in many roms, have not checked picture quality yet tho. Same goes for other camera apps.

DocRambone said:
No tweaks beside my own changes of rom content. Camera is "snap" camera as seen in many roms, have not checked picture quality yet tho. Same goes for other camera apps.
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Nice, might just give this a try! Can I remain encrypted?

cd993 said:
Nice, might just give this a try! Can I remain encrypted?
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Have no idea, i been decrypted since day 1 with op5t.
I have zero wake-locks, its almost unreal, someone has made an nice work in this rom.

DocRambone said:
Have no idea, i been decrypted since day 1 with op5t.
I have zero wake-locks, its almost unreal, someone has made an nice work in this rom.
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Might give this rom a go tomorrow, will have some free time to mess around with it...

DocRambone said:
Have no idea, i been decrypted since day 1 with op5t.
I have zero wake-locks, its almost unreal, someone has made an nice work in this rom.
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Is OTG fixed yet?
Sent from my OnePlus5T using XDA Labs

lollyjay said:
Is OTG fixed yet?
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Dont know, never use it. I don't have any otg cables to try it out

DocRambone said:
Dont know, never use it. I don't have any otg cables to try it out
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OK thanks. I'll ask on the xda thread
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lollyjay said:
OK thanks. I'll ask on the xda thread
Sent from my OnePlus5T using XDA Labs
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i guess its still not..

cd993 said:
Sounds good to me! Is it the case that some Google camera ports work better on none OOS ROMs? Also with OmniROM, can you run that encrypted?
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I don't think the ports run any better or worse depending on the ROM.
Omni runs encrypted by default..

Codename phoenix 8.1 because it's stable, fast and great battery life, plus the right customisation features
And you can run it encrypted too

NOSTALGIA said:
i guess its still not..
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Good news OTG is working on the newest build
Sent from my OnePlus5T using XDA Labs

lollyjay said:
Good news OTG is working on the newest build
Sent from my OnePlus5T using XDA Labs
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thats great. i can make use of my otg drive then..
i just need to start reading now coz im running my 5t stock unrooted.

Only ever used three ROMs on this device. First was the stock ROM the device came with (OOS 4.7.3), didn't get to experience it much because i flashed FreedomOS 4.7.4. I loved that ROM on my 3T. Had a lot of features. But i kinda lost interest because most of what i found useful in the 3T weren't yet implemented on the 5T ROM. And the dev took his sweet time releasing updates (not that taking time is wrong, it's just that i need my updates as quickly as possible). So i flashed OOS Oreo Beta 1. I'm loving it so far. I'll probably try out LOS when they release a stable 8.1 build.

Does poco m3 will support custom rom in the future?

Im planning to buy this if theres a custom rom support, do you think guys it will have?

marxcs said:
Im planning to buy this if theres a custom rom support, do you think guys it will have?
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I don't see why it wouldn't. Xiaomi's snapdragon models seem to always have development since it's easy to unlock the bootloader. For development to thrive though, we have to wait till the kernel sources are released, which is about 2 months after release on average.

RXT00 said:
I don't see why it wouldn't. Xiaomi's snapdragon models seem to always have development since it's easy to unlock the bootloader. For development to thrive though, we have to wait till the kernel sources are released, which is about 2 months after release on average.
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ok sir thank you

I hope so. Good thing is that it looks like the Redmi Note 9 4G and the Redmi Note 9 Power share the same specs, except they add a new Ultrawide camera.

Haros1 said:
I hope so. Good thing is that it looks like the Redmi Note 9 4G and the Redmi Note 9 Power share the same specs, except they add a new Ultrawide camera.
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Looks like you're right. They just released the kernel sources and the Redmi Note 9 4G and Poco M3 share the same code. https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/lime-q-oss
Looks like twrp may come sooner than I thought

has anyone unlocked bootloader? I am waiting for some NewYear price falls.
Anyone thought of flashing GSI/treble AOSP images for pure android?
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Notes about tinkering with Android Project Treble. Contribute to phhusson/treble_experimentations development by creating an account on GitHub.
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I had unlock the bootloader and installed EU rom with magisk... I will install AOSP in futur but now it's too early.

Just got the phone, definitely feels slower than it needs to be based on the specs. I am really hoping we see a custom recovery and ROMs soon to see this phone fly. I was checking and the X3 NFC got those 2 relatively quickly post release.

icemasta31 said:
Just got the phone, definitely feels slower than it needs to be based on the specs. I am really hoping we see a custom recovery and ROMs soon to see this phone fly. I was checking and the X3 NFC got those 2 relatively quickly post release.
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No miracles, no custom rom is going to make the phone fly.
For its price it is a very good phone.

jmfb55 said:
No miracles, no custom rom is going to make the phone fly.
For its price it is a very good phone.
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I disagree with your assertion. Even Redmi note 5 pro from three years ago, performs very well without lag on AOSP ROMs. And we all know that SD 662 on the POCO M3 is faster and better than SD 636 on RN5 Pro. So i believe that POCO M3 will perform greatly on AOSP based ROMs.

dustmalik said:
I disagree with your assertion. Even Redmi note 5 pro from three years ago, performs very well without lag on AOSP ROMs. And we all know that SD 662 on the POCO M3 is faster and better than SD 636 on RN5 Pro. So i believe that POCO M3 will perform greatly on AOSP based ROMs.
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The miui roms of that time were loaded with bloadware and not very optimized, so any "clean" rom made an appreciable difference in performance.
Today it is not like that, the current miui roms are quite clean and highly optimized (and can be easily cleaned of the bloadware they carry).
There is not much difference apart from the security issues with the other cleaner android roms.

jmfb55 said:
The miui roms of that time were loaded with bloadware and not very optimized, so any "clean" rom made an appreciable difference in performance.
Today it is not like that, the current miui roms are quite clean and highly optimized (and can be easily cleaned of the bloadware they carry).
There is not much difference apart from the security issues with the other cleaner android roms.
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Yeah, sure...
I have a Redmi Note 7, with the SD660, that phone runs much much much faster, even with slower memory. The Poco M3 can go faster.

jmfb55 said:
The miui roms of that time were loaded with bloadware and not very optimized, so any "clean" rom made an appreciable difference in performance.
Today it is not like that, the current miui roms are quite clean and highly optimized (and can be easily cleaned of the bloadware they carry).
There is not much difference apart from the security issues with the other cleaner android roms.
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Can you link me to some guide as to how to remove that Junk and stop/uninstall apps? This reviewer seems to think you cannot and maybe you could help him too!

You will find all in any of the Miui forum, even in Xda.

hello sir, I'm from future and now Poco m3 have many custom rom

OnePlus 6T OS update

Hi,
Using OP6T for years now and do not have any issue with it. It performs well in day to day task like Gaming or be it multi tasking but the only issue I have is the last software update received is Oxygen OS 11.1.2.2 based on Android 11 and I want to update my OP6T to Android 12 stable version and don't know how to do that.

lalwanigul said:
Hi,
Using OP6T for years now and do not have any issue with it. It performs well in day to day task like Gaming or be it multi tasking but the only issue I have is the last software update received is Oxygen OS 11.1.2.2 based on Android 11 and I want to update my OP6T to Android 12 stable version and don't know how to do that.
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If you want to update to android 12, custom ROM is the only option available.

s.seila said:
If you want to update to android 12, custom ROM is the only option available.
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But is it stable?

lalwanigul said:
But is it stable?
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I'm using EvoX since April 10. It very stable for me. You can try different roms for a few days to see which one work for better. Not much different in Performance and stability between all of those ROMs.

s.seila said:
If you want to update to android 12, custom ROM is the only option available.
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And how can it be done?
s.seila said:
I'm using EvoX since April 10. It very stable for me. You can try different roms for a few days to see which one work for better. Not much different in Performance and stability between all of those ROMs.
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Will this affect gaming experience?

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And how can it be done?
Will this affect gaming experience?
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Personally i don't play mobile game that much this day. Don't take my word this personal preference.
Games perform really good. In my experience it even better than on OOS. On OOS I only get 50fps.
Here PUBG clip along with fps counter ( very short )

s.seila said:
Personally i don't play mobile game that much this day. Don't take my word this personal preference.
Games perform really good. In my experience it even better than on OOS. On OOS I only get 50fps.
Here PUBG clip along with fps counter ( very short )
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Okay thanks for your support