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Help me decide what to do now. [NOOB][VS980]

Hello everyone! I recently got a second-hand verizon G2 VS980. I live in India (location is relevant in my case because of this being a US only model). I had ROOT pre-installed and it stays even after factory reset. This indicates that it is NOT stock.
This phone has legit hardware, as in it has all VS980 components. I have checked it. BUT IT HAS THE IMEI OF A D800. Does this mean that i also have the bands of D800 enabled?
Now what i want to do is,
Above all i want this phone rooted and flashed to the latest and most stable ROM atm.
Second, i would like to use 4G LTE on it, here in India. I know that VS980 supports only band 4 and 13. I NEED band 3,5,40. I have trawled the internet for this specific info but to no avail. Does the VS980 has the hardware it takes to use other 4G bands? Or is it manufactured only with band 4 and 13 in mind? The only pieces of little info i came upon was this
jacob019 said:
After spending a few days hacking around with the VS980 (LG G2 Verizon Model) I wish to share some findings.
1. NV edits to the bands will only work with baseband 11A or earlier. All later radios have the NV values hardcoded into the baseband and any changes will be reverted. You can successfully edit the NV values, and they will survive reboot on baseband 11A, but as soon as you install a later baseband they will revert to stock. CM11 works well with 11A. Perhaps binary modification to later basebands would be possible.
2. LTE Band 17 does not appear to be supported by the hardware. I copied all the values from a D801. Android now reports my phone as a GSM model instead of CDMA which is nice, but it just won't connect to LTE Band 17. If I delete band 4, I can't get LTE at all, so I know the settings are having an effect.
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and this. So i am confused where to start, i currently have a 26A baseband. Is it possible to enable band 3,5 and 40 on VS980?
I found the guides much confusing and complex relative to other devices i had. I am confused what to do first.
Should i flash TWRP first? or
Should i flash stock firmware?
I see that bands can be edited only on baseband 11A or earlier, so should i downgrade to that etc.
I have the phantom touches, and i read that they were gone after a specific update, so can i still get/flash that update with
a 11A baseband?
I do not understand this baseband, bootloader, exploits, and ROM compatiblity things.
I am willing to try even low level edits if someone is able to help and guide me.
Lastly, i just want my VS980 to run a good stable ROM with (if possible) 4G LTE on band 3,5 and/or 20 (India) and NO phantom touches update.
Specs: attached

Bump. Noone?
Can't anyone tell me that does the verizon model even includes hardware capability for 4G band 3,5 and 20? If this gets cleared, more than HALF of my problems will be gone.

ankitkashyap said:
Bump. Noone?
Can't anyone tell me that does the verizon model even includes hardware capability for 4G band 3,5 and 20? If this gets cleared, more than HALF of my problems will be gone.
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vs980 uses lte band 4 and 13. lte wont work for any other bands unfortunately

theobserver76 said:
vs980 uses lte band 4 and 13. lte wont work for any other bands unfortunately
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This means that i can't enable/use other bands because the hardware does not exist for any band except 4 and 13. Yes?

ankitkashyap said:
This means that i can't enable/use other bands because the hardware does not exist for any band except 4 and 13. Yes?
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yep

Thanks for clearing this out.

LG V20 H910 AT&T - 4G Band Issues

Hello good people,
I live in the UK, where the V20 was not released.
I have bought the AT&T unlocked H910 from Ebay, as it was stating that it works in the UK,
but the LTE band used by my carrier 800 MHz band 20 is not available on this phone.
"LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 12(700), 29(700), 30(2300)"
I have followed some of the noob guides and reading for days I believe that I have successfully rooted the phone, (shows in root checker). - as after some reading I was led to believe that by rooting the phone i would be able to change these settings via an app. however this did nothing for me.
could someone please kindly point me in the direction so that I can mod this so that the phone picks up and communicates with the correct Band? is this possible at all? or should i just try to return this to stock and return the phone?
or is this a situation where i just bought myself a small tablet?
I would be grateful for any help in solving this issue,
Many thanks in advance ! :good:

kneuast said:
Hello good people,
I live in the UK, where the V20 was not released.
I have bought the AT&T unlocked H910 from Ebay, as it was stating that it works in the UK,
but the LTE band used by my carrier 800 MHz band 20 is not available on this phone.
"LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 12(700), 29(700), 30(2300)"
I have followed some of the noob guides and reading for days I believe that I have successfully rooted the phone, (shows in root checker). - as after some reading I was led to believe that by rooting the phone i would be able to change these settings via an app. however this did nothing for me.
could someone please kindly point me in the direction so that I can mod this so that the phone picks up and communicates with the correct Band? is this possible at all? or should i just try to return this to stock and return the phone?
or is this a situation where i just bought myself a small tablet?
I would be grateful for any help in solving this issue,
Many thanks in advance ! :good:
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Hi
You need to get into the service menu on the 910 and search for the 20 band and enable it. Sorry I cannot be more specific. You can google for the code(s) that will get you into the service menu.
I have a V20 but it is Verizon vs995 which has the correct bands but for some reason will not work with EE 4G only 3G.
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Stransky said:
Hi
You need to get into the service menu on the 910 and search for the 20 band and enable it. Sorry I cannot be more specific. You can google for the code(s) that will get you into the service menu.
I have a V20 but it is Verizon vs995 which has the correct bands but for some reason will not work with EE 4G only 3G.
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Thank you for your reply,
I have tried this, i think i can get in by code *#546368#*910# assuming that this is what you are talking about?
this will take me to hiddenmenu
with 4 sub menues
- device test
- ELT Test
- SVC Test
- Field Test
I believe that i've seen people try to access the modem settings in the field test option
and i have seen that people get 3 or more options in this place, (third allowing you to select band) where as I only get 2
- Engineering mode
- PDP settings
do you know why the option does not appear for me?
- Would there be a chance that the option was hidden from the start by AT&T ?
Also I did not do LGUP dump before the root where many people in their guides have pointed out to
do, i followed a guide which does not involve LGUP to attempt to root my phone, should I try to flash the phone in a different firmware to try to unlock the mode ? along with the LGUP dump ?
again, thanks for the response !

Sorry, don't know but have you tried SVC entry I seem to remember some in the US using that to alter their Band.
The code you used does not work for me on my V20 in fact apart from IMEI code *#06# no codes work o. My phone.

Stransky said:
Sorry, don't know but have you tried SVC entry I seem to remember some in the US using that to alter their Band.
The code you used does not work for me on my V20 in fact apart from IMEI code *#06# no codes work o. My phone.
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Hi thanks again for getting back to me,
I am sorry but i do not know what SVC entry is, any relating articles i find are about terminal entry? is this in the ball park ?
could you point me in the direction of where i may find the information to do this myself ?
Ty

I meant SVC Test entry. Other than that I do not know. Sorry.

Hi Stransky,
Did you ever get your h910 to work in the UK? I think I have the same issue with my V20 h910

jimjim79 said:
Hi Stransky,
Did you ever get your h910 to work in the UK? I think I have the same issue with my V20 h910
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If you are in the UK then you don't need H910 rom. Flash it with US996 [usa] KDZ and that will sort out all the band issues without having to do anything more. Plus get's rid of At&T bloatware as US996 doesn't have any carrier bloat or network restrictions. I'm in Ireland and the rom is working great, 4G+ etc. My phone was originally a Verizon model.
edit: One drawback is you will loose FM radio as it's not on the US996 rom. If you are able to root the fone you can get it back with my mod if your on oreo.

thanks don't want to use the FM radio so will try your mod. Is there a guide to flash US996?

I'm being told in another thread that flashing another rom can't give you extra bands, so I'm a little confused between the contradictory advice.
ROMs do not have anything to do with available bands. Bands are hardware dependant
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jimjim79 said:
I'm being told in another thread that flashing another rom can't give you extra bands, so I'm a little confused between the contradictory advice.
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Your answer is in bold. He just gave bad advice. If you look earlier in the thread the Verizon variant has those bands already.
ezzony said:
If you are in the UK then you don't need H910 rom. Flash it with US996 [usa] KDZ and that will sort out all the band issues without having to do anything more. Plus get's rid of At&T bloatware as US996 doesn't have any carrier bloat or network restrictions. I'm in Ireland and the rom is working great, 4G+ etc. My phone was originally a Verizon model.
edit: One drawback is you will loose FM radio as it's not on the US996 rom. If you are able to root the fone you can get it back with my mod if your on oreo.
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You can buy a US996 v20 on eBay for $86 with free shipping in the US. Probably your best bet. V30 and G7 unlocked phones aren't too expensive either in good condition, though I have not cross referenced which bands they have, so you'd have to double check. I like the phone myself, might buy a couple so relatives have backup phones.

Let me be clear. The H910, VS995, US996, on a hardware level have exactly the same motherboard, The only difference is the software...the ROM. So for example VS995, US996 don't have FM radio out of the box where H910 does. This is a perfect example of where the sofware has been designed to restricted FM radio leading one to *think* the fone doesn't have FM radio on some models at all but in fact it does.
So, It the same idea for BANDS. A fone MAY be missing bands out of the box because the ROM has been designed to restrict some of the the bands where in reality the fone has those bands. So in that case you can overcome this by changing to a ROM that does not have this restriction enabled in the ROM, in exactly the same way as in the case of FM radio. Carriers do disable bands on fones for their own devious reasons.
I know from experience H910 has hotspot restrictions as well. There is a work around OR you can just flash US996 that does not have this hotspot restriction. Also H910 has restriction in the Mobile Settings section. If you change to US996 there will be extra settings in Mobile networks>System Select settings which are GLOBAL / LTE/CDMA, LTE/GSM/UMTS. These options I'm sure I recall did not show up on H910 rom which could be useful to some.
I did not have an original H910 but all I'm saying is that I'm fairly sure that the motherboard is exactly the same as the other models in which case it will have all the same bands as Verizon and US996, just you can't see them because of H910 software on it. Of course you can't enable bands if they don't exist on the motherboard but you can if they do exist but have been restricted by the ROM.
So to the guy who asked about the H910 you can try to use the service menu to enable bands BUT this is not the best way to do it as the service menu might not let you or maybe the enable doesn't last after rebooting. The best way to fix this is to flash a ROM that does not have network restrictions and then you can forget out it from there on in.
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I'm being told in another thread that flashing another rom can't give you extra bands, so I'm a little confused between the contradictory advice.
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Please see my previous post.
You have 2 options. You can either flash a clean US996 KDZ that you download at https://lg-firmwares.com. You'd need LGUP to flash it, guides on youtube and here, search for them. You don't have to be rooted to flash a new KDZ.
If you are rooted you can just download a custom ROM from here such as WETA ROM US996santa version and flash it in TWRP. You could backup your current system just in case it doesn't solve your problem but even if your problem isn't solved the US996 rom would be better anyway for the other reasons I mentioned in my previous post plus I forgot to add that would get rid of all the AT&T bloatware as well.

thanks for the advice, I'm really struggling to find a guide that matched my requirements or is there a generic guide I can follow. Bit scared as I'm reading some roms will brick the device.
Don't need to root at the moment so hopefully that will make it simpler.

ezzony said:
If you are in the UK then you don't need H910 rom. Flash it with US996 [usa] KDZ and that will sort out all the band issues without having to do anything more. Plus get's rid of At&T bloatware as US996 doesn't have any carrier bloat or network restrictions. I'm in Ireland and the rom is working great, 4G+ etc. My phone was originally a Verizon model.
edit: One drawback is you will loose FM radio as it's not on the US996 rom. If you are able to root the fone you can get it back with my mod if your on oreo.
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Hi there - can you please point me to the rom you use? I just got a H910 from ebay at&t 'unlocked'. But I found only 2g on the stock rom. Have flashed a variety of U996, H915 (canada), and a H910pr (puerto rico) but can only get 3g sometimes. Some of the android 7 roms don't even have 4g as one of the options. Others do but I cannot select it - only 3g.
I'm in the UK but the 800/1800 bands Ireland uses are also the same for EE in the Uk.
Many thanks!

Which model of the LG V20 should I get for a Canadian with Freedom Mobile?

Preface: Located in Canada, with Freedom Mobile (formerly known as Wind Mobile).
Freedom Mobile Supported Bands:
3G Bands: AWS-4 (1700mhz)
LTE Bands: AWS-1 (4) (1700mz), AWS-3 (66) (1700mhz), 7 (2500mhz), 13 (700mhz), 41 (2500mhz)
LG V20 Supported LTE Bands (all attained from https://www.frequencycheck.com):
H918 = 4, 7, 13, 66
VS995 = 4, 7, 13
US996 = 4, 7, 13
H990N = 4, 7, 41
H990ds = 4, 7, 41
H990 = 4, 7, 41
H915 = 4, 7
H910 = 4, 7
LS997 = 4, 41
Which model of LG V20 should I get? It seems like I should get the H918 model, since it supports the most LTE bands that my carrier uses, and I have no plans of switching anytime time (6 year old grandfathered plan of $30 CAD for 5GB Data, Unlimted Canada Text, Unlimited Province Call), but are any of the other models worth getting because they have an additional feature, don't have a flaw in the design, etc.?
I also plan to root the device and install a third party ROM (something as close to AOSP as possible), if that matters.
Thanks!

Get the h915 v20 as it is the Canada-wide model.
Even though most sites don't list the h915 bands, it does have band 66 lte that connects with freedom mobile as well as band 4 and 7 lte.
The h915 also support WiFi calling with freedom mobile. No other v20 can do that.

Do you think it'll matter that I won't have "extended range LTE" (LTE band 13) with the H915 model, but I would with the H918 model? I guess I probably couldn't get any other additional LTE bands, even with a different ROM (as was possible back in 2013 with Qualcomm chips)?
I heard that Wifi Calling and VOLTE won't work if I install a third party ROM, is that true? Is that the only things that won't work with a third party ROM, and if I get an H918 model?
Is it also true that I can't role-back the O.S of the H918, after I update it (even with root and bootloader unlock and TWRP recovery)?

Felipe2077 said:
Do you think it'll matter that I won't have "extended range LTE" (LTE band 13) with the H915 model, but I would with the H918 model? I guess I probably couldn't get any other additional LTE bands, even with a different ROM (as was possible back in 2013 with Qualcomm chips)?
I heard that Wifi Calling and VOLTE won't work if I install a third party ROM, is that true? Is that the only things that won't work with a third party ROM, and if I get an H918 model?
Is it also true that I can't role-back the O.S of the H918, after I update it (even with root and bootloader unlock and TWRP recovery)?
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freedom mobile is very picky on who can connect to band 13. Only the current newer phones carried by them that support band 13 will connect to band 13.
If you are looking at h918 to get on band 13 on freedom mobile, that won't be happening as it will just connect to band 4, 7 and maybe 66.
If you are going to use v20 rooted, then the h915 firmware won't work as rooted so I converted my h915 phone to us996 firmware rooted so it now it only connects to band 4 and 7 LTE. So using firmwares that isn't h915 will lack wifi calling with freedom mobile.
Freedom mobile main bands are 4 and 7 so it didn't really matter to me as freedom mobile is everywhere in the GTA with those 2 bands.
I know the h915 can easily go back to stock unrooted as I have done many times myself.

darkknight200 said:
freedom mobile is very picky on who can connect to band 13. Only the current newer phones carried by them that support band 13 will connect to band 13.
If you are looking at h918 to get on band 13 on freedom mobile, that won't be happening as it will just connect to band 4, 7 and maybe 66.
If you are going to use v20 rooted, then the h915 firmware won't work as rooted so I converted my h915 phone to us996 firmware rooted so it now it only connects to band 4 and 7 LTE. So using firmwares that isn't h915 will lack wifi calling with freedom mobile.
Freedom mobile main bands are 4 and 7 so it didn't really matter to me as freedom mobile is everywhere in the GTA with those 2 bands.
I know the h915 can easily go back to stock unrooted as I have done many times myself.
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Darn, this is really sad news. This is really making me think twice about getting the V20.
I tried looking around for de-bloated and/or AOSP Roms for the H915, but it seems like there are none. Is this true? Am I really forced to downgrade to one of the other firmwares, that are not the H918/H915?

Felipe2077 said:
Darn, this is really sad news. This is really making me think twice about getting the V20.
I tried looking around for de-bloated and/or AOSP Roms for the H915, but it seems like there are none. Is this true? Am I really forced to downgrade to one of the other firmwares, that are not the H918/H915?
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Yes the h915 doesn't have rom development because the h915 firmware can't be used rooted. However if you use it unrooted, it will run fine on freedom mobile with wifi calling. It is currently on the oreo update.
If you choose to root the h915, you have to convert the phones firmware to us996 firmware to be able to have cellular data working.
From then you are free to use roms built for the us996 and the options are open.
So its ether you use the h915 unrooted with working wifi calling and band 66 or to use it rooted, convert the h915 into us996 firmware to use updated roms.

darkknight200 said:
Yes the h915 doesn't have rom development because the h915 firmware can't be used rooted. However if you use it unrooted, it will run fine on freedom mobile with wifi calling. It is currently on the oreo update.
If you choose to root the h915, you have to convert the phones firmware to us996 firmware to be able to have cellular data working.
From then you are free to use roms built for the us996 and the options are open.
So its ether you use the h915 unrooted with working wifi calling and band 66 or to use it rooted, convert the h915 into us996 firmware to use updated roms.
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Ok, so the H915 is out of the question then.
What about the H918? Does the H918 have supported ROM's (based on stock and AOSP)? Is it fine to root? I'm fine with not having Wifi Calling on the H918.
Edit: It *seems* possible to [root] the H918 without issue? Maybe there's more to it that I don't know about, @Darknight200. https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/root-lafsploit-h918-version-t3773443

Felipe2077 said:
Ok, so the H915 is out of the question then.
What about the H918? Does the H918 have supported ROM's (based on stock and AOSP)? Is it fine to root? I'm fine with not having Wifi Calling on the H918.
Edit: It *seems* possible to [root] the H918 without issue? Maybe there's more to it that I don't know about, @Darknight200. https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/root-lafsploit-h918-version-t3773443
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Yeah h918 rooting uses the laf exploit to unlock the bootloader.
H918 has roms support and aosp.

darkknight200 said:
Yeah h918 rooting uses the laf exploit to unlock the bootloader.
H918 has roms support and aosp.
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Thank you so much for all of your very quick and imformative replies!!!
Regarding the H918, I also read somewhere that there is an "anti roll back tripped in a update." Is this true? Does that mean that I can't downgrade the O.S? Also, is there any downsides to getting the H918, compared to any other models? Will it support band 66 on Freedom? Will there be anything missing (aside from wifi Calling)?

Felipe2077 said:
Thank you so much for all of your very quick and imformative replies!!!
Regarding the H918, I also read somewhere that there is an "anti roll back tripped in a update." Is this true? Does that mean that I can't downgrade the O.S? Also, is there any downsides to getting the H918, compared to any other models? Will it support band 66 on Freedom? Will there be anything missing (aside from wifi Calling)?
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Yes there is arb (anti rollback) but that just means u can only downgrade to the same arb version of firmware. So any arb version 1 can be downgraded on older arb 1 but not on an older arb 0 version or else it bricks.
I know h918 will connect to band 4 and 7 no problem but can't guarantee band 66.

darkknight200 said:
Yes there is arb (anti rollback) but that just means u can only downgrade to the same arb version of firmware. So any arb version 1 can be downgraded on older arb 1 but not on an older arb 0 version or else it bricks.
I know h918 will connect to band 4 and 7 no problem but can't guarantee band 66.
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And I guess there's no way to disable ARB?
Edit: Also, how would I even test to see whether band 66 is working?

Felipe2077 said:
And I guess there's no way to disable ARB?
Edit: Also, how would I even test to see whether band 66 is working?
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No, arb is a fuse.
As for checking bands, download app called network cell info lite and it will tell u what band it connects to.

darkknight200 said:
Yes there is arb (anti rollback) but that just means u can only downgrade to the same arb version of firmware. So any arb version 1 can be downgraded on older arb 1 but not on an older arb 0 version or else it bricks.
I know h918 will connect to band 4 and 7 no problem but can't guarantee band 66.
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Alright, awesome, thanks for all of your help DarkKnight200!!!

darkknight200 said:
Yes there is arb (anti rollback) but that just means u can only downgrade to the same arb version of firmware. So any arb version 1 can be downgraded on older arb 1 but not on an older arb 0 version or else it bricks.
I know h918 will connect to band 4 and 7 no problem but can't guarantee band 66.
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I can confirm that I'm connected on the H918 to Freedom band 66 almost exclusively in Edmonton.

How to unlock 4g bands for H910 in UK/Europe?

Hi there. I bought an 'unlocked' AT&T H910 LGV20 from ebay.
I thought would work in the UK as the phone hardware has compatible 4g bands that my provider (EE) uses.
The stock at&t firmware only allowed me to use 2g/Edge.
So I have flashed several other roms / kdz files using LGUP
( h910 Puerto Rico, H915 Canada, US996 unlocked US - variety of android 7 and android 8)
Some roms (particularly Android 7.0 Canada and Puerto Rico) work with 2g and 3g but there isn't even a 4G option in the base menus.
Some roms have global or allow you to select LTE/3Gpp but they don't allow me to get a 4g signal.
One even said 4g at the top but when I checked the connection in phone settings - about - it showed 3g (and this was consistent with the download speed too)
II only got videotron Canada to work. Bell and Rogers should have an overlapping 4g band but I got the CUST error on those roms.
I have tried going through service menu but all that can do is sometimes force a 3g signal from 2g
So what should I do?
1. I s there a rom with overlapping 4g bands that would work? Can I flash a HK rom onto H910?
2. Can I root the phone to unlock 4g bands?
Would this survive unrooting to allow me to access microsoft intune (for work email), banking and sports apps (which sometimes don't like root?)?
3. Would a custom rom work? Which do you recommend to keep as many features as possible eg remote control, camera, DAC?
Do they also work with microsoft intune, banking apps, sports apps etc?
I have followed a few of the posts out there but given the ebay seller I wonder if a few more people in Europe might have been tempted!
Thanks!

Hi
You need Band 20 (800) to use with EE UK and according to GSM Arena list of specs for the H910 that version of the V20 does not have it and I do not know if it can be added.

Stransky said:
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You need Band 20 (800) to use with EE UK and according to GSM Arena list of specs for the H910 that version of the V20 does not have it and I do not know if it can be added.
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Thank you!
I was led to believe the H910 (same as H915 in Canada) supported all of EE's 4g bands.
But for sure, the carriers seem to have locked some out. But not having any luck with other roms either...
I cannot post the url but
frequencycheck . com
carrier-compatibility/wwW4hXP/lg-h910-v20-lte-a-h915/ee-everything-everywhere-united-kingdom
Compatibility - 3 out of 3 bands supported
100%
Interface Name Supported by device?
LTE B3 (1800 +) Yes
LTE B7 (2600) Yes
LTE B20 (800 DD) Yes

As I said in previous post the H910 does not support Band 20 (800) check GSM Arena site select LG V20 and then H910 and select LTE bands and you will see that Band 20 is missing. The H915 is not listed.
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@jamescarrick
I have a similar issue, having bought an "unlocked" H910 and having only 2G. Is this the file name of the H915 kdz file you flashed to enable 3G: "H91510e_00_VTR_CA_OP_1205.kdz"?
Thanks.

Which version to buy: LG V20 H918 (T-Mobile only?!?) or VS995

Hello and good evening,
I wanted to buy a new V20 and had found a dealer on eBay who had offered the H918.
In the auction text it said that it would be compatible with all networks/provider, so I bought it. Today the dealer contacted me and said that the H918 would probably only work with a T-mobile SIM (I’m located in Germany, O2 is my provider) but he could offer me the VS995 that would had no problems with all networks.
I didn't find much about the VS995 in terms of network/provider compatibility.
What I have found was contradictory information on the web, one time it says "Yes, only with T-Mobile" somewhere else again "The US996 would be the best choice or then the H918 as a second choice, for both the provider would not matter, would work with everyone ".
Is the H918 really only usable with a T-Mobile SIM or does it only have a T-Mobile branding and also with regard to "rooting" and installing a "Custom ROM", which version should I prefer?
After rooting and installing a custom ROM, is the H918 compatible with all networks?
The H918 seems to support more Bands than the VS995?
I would be grateful for any tip, maybe someone can help me with the dilema and the decision!
Many thanks in advance. ^^

carpeta said:
Hello and good evening,
I wanted to buy a new V20 and had found a dealer on eBay who had offered the H918.
In the auction text it said that it would be compatible with all networks/provider, so I bought it. Today the dealer contacted me and said that the H918 would probably only work with a T-mobile SIM (I’m located in Germany, O2 is my provider) but he could offer me the VS995 that would had no problems with all networks.
I didn't find much about the VS995 in terms of network/provider compatibility.
What I have found was contradictory information on the web, one time it says "Yes, only with T-Mobile" somewhere else again "The US996 would be the best choice or then the H918 as a second choice, for both the provider would not matter, would work with everyone ".
Is the H918 really only usable with a T-Mobile SIM or does it only have a T-Mobile branding and also with regard to "rooting" and installing a "Custom ROM", which version should I prefer?
After rooting and installing a custom ROM, is the H918 compatible with all networks?
The H918 seems to support more Bands than the VS995?
I would be grateful for any tip, maybe someone can help me with the dilema and the decision!
Many thanks in advance. ^^
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I'd advise you get the vs995 and don't update, to be on the safe side if you'd want to mod

Landloord said:
I'd advise you get the vs995 and don't update, to be on the safe side if you'd want to mod
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Thanks for the reply Landloord.
I definitely want to root the unit and flash it with a custom firmware.
So far I only had one Android smartphone that I didn't rooted.
My question would be if the H918 would accept any SIM card after the root and custom ROM flash, because the seller told me it would only accept T-mobile SIM cards. I'm asking the questions because I never had an phone that was locked from the facotory to only one provider.
Shouldn't the SIM lock be overwritten after flashing with a custom ROM or am I wrong?!

carpeta said:
I definitely want to root the unit and flash it with a custom firmware.
So far I only had one Android smartphone that I didn't rooted.
My question would be if the H918 would accept any SIM card after the root and custom ROM flash, because the seller told me it would only accept T-mobile SIM cards. I'm asking the questions because I never had an phone that was locked from the facotory to only one provider.
Shouldn't the SIM lock be overwritten after flashing with a custom ROM or am I wrong?!
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Flashing a custom ROM or different firmware has no effect on the SIM lock status.
The VS995 and US996 models always come SIM-unlocked out of the box, so all you have to worry about those is that the IMEI number is clean/not blacklisted.
The H918 is a bit trickier: If it's SIM-locked, then only SIM cards using the T-Mobile USA network will work. When buying, you have to make sure that the H918 is permanently unlocked (that is done through a special T-Mobile app that connects to a server and not a simple unlock code like you see from many other locked phones). In contrast, you'll want to avoid an H918 that is temporarily unlocked (for people who travel abroad for a while), so in that case, the phone will re-lock to T-Mobile USA after a certain period of time (could be several months).
If LTE band 20 is the main band for your provider, then any of the 3 models you mentioned should work fine. You can see each model's bands on sites such as FrequencyCheck. If there are other LTE bands besides 20 that your provider uses, then I think the various H990 models (H990DS, H990N, H990TR) have the most compatible bands for Europe.
As for root and custom ROMs, the rooting procedure and available ROMs will vary depending on the model you get, so you may want to look around here first to see what your options are. Generally, it does not matter how updated the firmware of the phone is; you can simply downgrade to root for all V20 models except one (the LS997, which doesn't have LTE band 20 anyway).

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Flashing a custom ROM or different firmware has no effect on the SIM lock status.
The VS995 and US996 models always come SIM-unlocked out of the box, so all you have to worry about those is that the IMEI number is clean/not blacklisted.
The H918 is a bit trickier: If it's SIM-locked, then only SIM cards using the T-Mobile USA network will work. When buying, you have to make sure that the H918 is permanently unlocked (that is done through a special T-Mobile app that connects to a server and not a simple unlock code like you see from many other locked phones). In contrast, you'll want to avoid an H918 that is temporarily unlocked (for people who travel abroad for a while), so in that case, the phone will re-lock to T-Mobile USA after a certain period of time (could be several months).
If LTE band 20 is the main band for your provider, then any of the 3 models you mentioned should work fine. You can see each model's bands on sites such as FrequencyCheck. If there are other LTE bands besides 20 that your provider uses, then I think the various H990 models (H990DS, H990N, H990TR) have the most compatible bands for Europe.
As for root and custom ROMs, the rooting procedure and available ROMs will vary depending on the model you get, so you may want to look around here first to see what your options are. Generally, it does not matter how updated the firmware of the phone is; you can simply downgrade to root for all V20 models except one (the LS997, which doesn't have LTE band 20 anyway).
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Many thanks for the detailed answer! :good:
Then the flashing of another modem would probably not override the SIM lock then either, right? ?

carpeta said:
Many thanks for the detailed answer! :good:
Then the flashing of another modem would probably not override the SIM lock then either, right? ?
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Correct. Only the T-Mobile Unlock app can be used to SIM-unlock it, and I think the info on the unlock eligibility/status of any particular H918 phone is stored on whatever T-Mobile USA server that the app connects to. There may be a paid unlock service that can unlock one for you, but I suspect it may be expensive.
I should also mention that the H918 is not compatible with any other model's firmware, which means that if you try to flash any non-H918 firmware onto an H918, then it will permanently brick/kill the phone. Likewise, flashing H918 firmware onto any non-H918 model will brick that phone.

Thank you very much for all the information C D!
I will look if there are any differences in the included accessories of both models and I guess I have to take the VS995 or look around for another model. ??

No problem. If returning the phone to the seller is easy, then you'll be able to try out the VS995 and see if the signal coverage is OK.
And by the way, the VS995 (as do the US996 and Korean F800K/L/S models) has the FM radio disabled, but if you root it and stay on a stock-based Oreo ROM, you can get the FM radio back.
Anyway, it looks like you still have plenty of options regarding compatible models. And as someone who happens to have grown up in Germany, I'd say you have „die Qual der Wahl“.

You've said it all

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No problem. If returning the phone to the seller is easy, then you'll be able to try out the VS995 and see if the signal coverage is OK.
And by the way, the VS995 (as do the US996 and Korean F800K/L/S models) has the FM radio disabled, but if you root it and stay on a stock-based Oreo ROM, you can get the FM radio back.
Anyway, it looks like you still have plenty of options regarding compatible models. And as someone who happens to have grown up in Germany, I'd say you have „die Qual der Wahl“.
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Ja die Qual der Wahl! :laugh:
I have now told the seller that I don't want either model, I might look for a US996 model.
Thanks again! :good:

Just the way i selected to do this. I even have the opposite methods simply did no longer have the time to one hundred% check them on a physical guide V20 in palms as i used to be doing it for a person else who wanted it again. I normally use hardware in recent times

Which of the models of the V20 is to set in the language of the Netherlands? I have now a VS995 and with this phone it is not possible!

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Which of the models of the V20 is to set in the language of the Netherlands? I have now a VS995 and with this phone it is not possible!
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The V20 was never officially sold in Europe, so I'm not sure if any model has your language. But you could try one of those language enabler apps that supposedly can add more languages to Android phones. Here's a recent post of someone using such an app to add Mexican Spanish to their Korean LG V50:
https://www.reddit.com/r/lgv50/comments/rtxei7

Thank you so much. I shall try this!

hi there, is there a good way to root vs995 easily and install los18 without the dreaded vibrating when boot?