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Question on the How To's of changing phones

I got my first Android phone last year, and I've loved it. Obviously, hanging out in here, I'm looking at getting the Atrix. OK, I'm committed to it, damnit.
Anyway, question is this: When I pick up the Atrix...how do I get all my crap from my N1 to it? Apps, texts that I want to keep, game data, etc. Is this where we just run something like Titanium (which I *think* requires root) and just restore from that? I'm sure this is really simple and basic...but I've never had to change Android phones before.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
ETA: Are there options that don't require root? Assuming it could take a week or so for the Atrix to be rooted.

Requiring root. You can titanium backup your messages and game data to your sd card. When you get the atrix, put your sd card in it and restore the data using titanium.
Your apps/contacts/games will download automatically as soon as you log into the phone, assuming you have a google account and have everything set to sync automatically on your current phone.
As for a non-root method, I haven't looked into it.

Mike's Aria said:
Requiring root. You can titanium backup your messages and game data to your sd card. When you get the atrix, put your sd card in it and restore the data using titanium.
Your apps/contacts/games will download automatically as soon as you log into the phone, assuming you have a google account and have everything set to sync automatically on your current phone.
As for a non-root method, I haven't looked into it.
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You sure the apps and everything will download? The GF lost her Captivate, so I got her a new one, logged in, contacts downloaded...and that was it. Maybe I just haven't checked the setting to back up the apps as well? If not, I probably need to do that on my N1, though I've got that thing backed up ten ways from Sunday lol.
ETA: Appreciate the help, Mike.

App backup, if I recall correctly is enabled by default, but only available on 2.2+ builds. So that would be why the Captivate didn't come back. As for texts, SMS Backup & Restore works perfectly for me, and it doesn't require root.

dorsai3d said:
App backup, if I recall correctly is enabled by default, but only available on 2.2+ builds. So that would be why the Captivate didn't come back. As for texts, SMS Backup & Restore works perfectly for me, and it doesn't require root.
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Thanks! Appreciate that
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If you use a messaging program like handcent, you can back up your SMS and MMS to be reloaded onto your new phone too. Save all your numbers to your google account too, and also consider moving all your apps and files to your external sd card.

ApplCobbler said:
If you use a messaging program like handcent, you can back up your SMS and MMS to be reloaded onto your new phone too. Save all your numbers to your google account too, and also consider moving all your apps and files to your external sd card.
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Contacts and SMS aren't too big of a deal. I've got those covered a few different ways. I'm worried more about apps, app data, and various settings. If an app doesn't natively support being on the SD card, then one must run Apps2SD, which is cool. Except it's not, since we have no idea when the Atrix will be rooted. And then there's the issue of apps that AT&T *may* not allow. I'm not sure how those would be installed from the SD card, as per your recommendation, if AT&T elects to block non-market APK installs.
In short, I appreciate the reply and discussion. I could have thought through my initial question much better, as your reply has cause me to rethink a bit. Thanks mate.

Funny, I'm gonna go from an N1 to an Atrix as well. I know as far as contacts go, el goog will have them for me already. But I was wondering if using a csv(?) contact backup would be better? My google contacts aren't all right, my online gmail is missing some contacts that are on my phone. My main concern is getting all the extra stuff in contacts; email address, street address, birthdays, etc... Just wondering which would be better at transferring all that?

im in the original winmo boat. First time going to android. What if I sync with outlook, will android synch with outlook? Anybody?

sdlopez83 said:
im in the original winmo boat. First time going to android. What if I sync with outlook, will android synch with outlook? Anybody?
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Are you using an Exchange account with Outlook? Android will sync mail, calendar, and contacts with Exchange much more easily that trying to sync directly with Outlook.

stoli412 said:
Are you using an Exchange account with Outlook? Android will sync mail, calendar, and contacts with Exchange much more easily that trying to sync directly with Outlook.
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I am using Outlook without Exchange on my home PC. Still checking different ways to sync phone and android. I have >5000 contacts from several associations I am in, and I am not sure if Gmail can handle those plus the supplemental info (spouses, birthdates, etc.).

[Q] Help! Titanium Backup problem!

Hi Everyone!
I have a problem. The touchscreen of my HTC HD2 doens't work anymore. So basically I can't use my phone anymore. I've got a recent backup on my sd card of my contacts made with the Titanium Backup app.
My question is if I still will be able to redeem my contacts? Maybe on the computer? Any ideas?

Did you use your google/gmail account in accounts/sync to access the Market? That should have also synced to your google contacts online.
I've been going back and forth between Android builds and WP7. All I have to do is log in w/ my gmail credentials and all my contacts are downloaded.

Yeahhh!! That was it, its al in my gmail account! Didnt know that
Thank soo much for this.

troosie said:
Yeahhh!! That was it, its al in my gmail account! Didnt know that
Thank soo much for this.
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Anytime!
I was just at a group dinner last night where one of the guests had just bought the Samsung Galaxy after losing her previous Android phone. She said that she lost all of her contact info and I was like "Really! Just do this...".

so what is best way to transfer app data from my Note 4 to the 6p?

Helium still the best way when considering my Note 4 is locked?
it did not work perfectly when I move from my Samsung s3 to the note but not sure if Helium is really my only option
I definitely want to move over my sms/mms

SMS's are synced to google I believe if you are using hangout.
For my backup restores I use Titanium backup, but remember that it'll only backup/restore system and apps settings and data and no personal data like images, sms, contacts etc. But if you have google backup setup transfer should be smooth for photos, sms, contacts etc.

Hey thanks. I used to use titanium but don't anymore since I thought it needed root to work properly?
I use hangout for sms. How can I be sure it gets transfered over?
And Google Backup?
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andy_d0 said:
Hey thanks. I used to use titanium but don't anymore since I thought it needed root to work properly?
I use hangout for sms. How can I be sure it gets transfered over?
And Google Backup?
Sent from my Note 4
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I think hangout syncs all your messages automatically to the cloud. I can say this as per my experience of before and after rooting my nexus 5 on android 6.0. For root I had to wipe clean my phone and after root, hangout automatically synced all old SMSs back to my nexus 5. So I think before wiping out you can try to install hangouts on some other device and sign in with same ID that you have on Note 4 and see if your messages appear on new device. I think that would be the best way to check.
Or else use an app like - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riteshsahu.SMSBackupRestore
And by google backup I meant google account's sync service. If you use google photos, use backup option to move all photos to google and it'll be available on new device when you sign in with same account on new device using google photos. And all your contacts and other preferences are saved by google account so its matter of logging into the new device with same google account and checking how many things you were able to restore. For remaining like music and videos move them manually.
There is no easy way of moving everything to new android device in Android ecosystem unlike iOS where iTunes does everything for you (but again if you are jailbroken, even iTunes cannot sync everything).

I cant help with SMS/MMS, thats why Hangouts is great. BUT, I can help with the application data. I just pushed out a new version of my script, which, among other things, adds support for backup and restore of app data. Might help you out here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/development/tool-android-job-box-v1-00-t3233482

Titanium Backup is only way to transfer SMS without using Hangouts.
Will work between any Android versions and types as long as you use the XML SMS backup option.

Nekromantik said:
Titanium Backup is only way to transfer SMS without using Hangouts.
Will work between any Android versions and types as long as you use the XML SMS backup option.
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I thought helium transferred sms, just not mms?

OK guys. I'll try to see what happens when I load hangouts. I didn't realize it was backing up sms. I did use titanium back when I had my S3 rooted. That worked perfectly. Helium - yeah I lost mms
Chevycam - so it's just a tool that does adb backup? Works on any phone regardless of root status?
Sent from my Note 4

I used ADB backup to transfer my data from my Nexus 6 to my 6P.
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kgeissler said:
I used ADB backup to transfer my data from my Nexus 6 to my 6P.
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How well did it work? Did you copy everything?

Backed up everything from my prior phone via Titanium Backup
Save to computer
Cut and paste onto the 6P
Restore.. although this time around, I restored only the apps and not the app data so I can start clean.

NCguy said:
How well did it work? Did you copy everything?
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Worked well.. Once I logged into the 6P, I let Google download all my apps. I then restored the backup, which restored most of my data. It did not seem to copy my Nova Launcher settings, so I had to copy that manually. It also does not copy Bluetooth connections, so you will have to set those up again. Overall, I was pretty happy with it. I didn't want to root the phone, so I didn't do a titanium backup.
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kgeissler said:
Worked well.. Once I logged into the 6P, I let Google download all my apps. I then restored the backup, which restored most of my data. It did not seem to copy my Nova Launcher settings, so I had to copy that manually. It also does not copy Bluetooth connections, so you will have to set those up again. Overall, I was pretty happy with it. I didn't want to root the phone, so I didn't do a titanium backup.
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Ouch. Certainly better than nothing but my Nova is huge with all my apps. I guess knowing this you can export/import the nova settings

andy_d0 said:
OK guys. I'll try to see what happens when I load hangouts. I didn't realize it was backing up sms. I did use titanium back when I had my S3 rooted. That worked perfectly. Helium - yeah I lost mms
Chevycam - so it's just a tool that does adb backup? Works on any phone regardless of root status?
Sent from my Note 4
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Yes, it's independent of the device connected. Root doesn't matter. But be aware, in order to back up APPS, you need root. Backing up the App DATA does NOT require root. Apps won't back up, even with Titanium Backup, without root.

So my experience...
1) Hangouts doesn't backup sms or at least it doesn't seem that it does. Used SMS Backup and Restore and that seems to have done the trick
2) I tried using Helium but I'm not sure what drivers to use so gave up on that
3) If Google is backing up app data in Lollipop, it has to be bare minimum. Honestly, I'm not sure what it actually did backup
4) I realized that I really don't need the backup besides SMS. It would have been easier to handle transferring stuff sure but there are only a handful of apps that I wanted to transfer settings over and they all had options to Export settings.
Oh well. Hopefully the new backup on Marshmallow will hopefully provide a better experience. It did ask while setting up the phone whether I want to do a restore through NFC from another phone - it just neglected to mention that it's not a Lollipop option

andy_d0 said:
So my experience...
1) Hangouts doesn't backup sms or at least it doesn't seem that it does. Used SMS Backup and Restore and that seems to have done the trick
2) I tried using Helium but I'm not sure what drivers to use so gave up on that
3) If Google is backing up app data in Lollipop, it has to be bare minimum. Honestly, I'm not sure what it actually did backup
4) I realized that I really don't need the backup besides SMS. It would have been easier to handle transferring stuff sure but there are only a handful of apps that I wanted to transfer settings over and they all had options to Export settings.
Oh well. Hopefully the new backup on Marshmallow will hopefully provide a better experience. It did ask while setting up the phone whether I want to do a restore through NFC from another phone - it just neglected to mention that it's not a Lollipop option
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Almost no apps use API 23 which is required for the new Google backup. Only choices are helium or adb backup

Managing contacts? (and a little more)

Is it possible to use only Google contacts on my Redmi 3s and get rid of MIUI contacts?
The stock phone app of MIUI doesn't seem to work with anything else than the MIUI contact list.
In addition i would like to know, if you would recommend to use the Redmi 3s completely without a MIUI account? Or should i outright flash a custom ROM without MIUI?

First of all, you can use Redmi 3S without a MI Account. I've been using it for over a month now. The only downside would be that you won't be able to download themes from the Themes app. I'm skeptical about backing up my data to Mi Cloud so I never use that, now and even in the future.
As for your Contacts problem, I've synced my contacts to my Google account a long time ago and I've configured the Contacts app to only show my Google account contacts, nothing else. You can do that too by going into Contacts settings>Display preferences>Configure contacts lists and select which one you'd like to use and the app will only show contacts from the selected option.
Personally, I'd suggest using the phone without the Mi Account if you're not into using themes from the Themes app. There's no need to flash a custom ROM if MIUI is serving you well. And it's not mandatory to sign into a MI Account at all.

How to sync my entire S7 edge to the cloud?

Hi,
How to sync my entire phone(Calls, MMS, Contacts, Photo, Video, Apps, setting) to the cloud for free other than using google account? google doesn't restore all my data onto the new phone.
Can unlocked Verizon phone use with ATT and H2O?
Thank you in advanced,

I don't think it's possible unless rooted.. I believe Hawaii phones can.. IPhone kills us on this one feature

You can using Samsung Cloud or via Smart Switch app.

GrippingSphere said:
You can using Samsung Cloud or via Smart Switch app.
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I don't believe either of those does a full data backup.. I could be wrong