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Well... I completely stopped charging my phone with the wall charger and I am now just using either my car charger or USB and i've noticed my phone over the last two days has probably doubled in being able to hold a charge. Today I made approximately 2 or 3 30 minute - 1 hour calls, used the internet approximately 20 times for about 5 minutes each time and used SNESnoid for approximately 1 hour straight and my battery was at 40% after a 10 hour work day, not too shabby. Not to mention I also don't get that annoying 10% drop within 10 minutes of unplugging the phone anymore
I've seen a ton of other battery tip's but I've yet to see any actually say stop using a wall charger all together. Here's to hoping this helps someone
Lol thanks for the tip. I highly doubt this is anymore then a placebo but good luck to whoever tries it. Not calling you OP I am just finding it hard to believe.
Furthermore, have you tried reseting your battery stats. I mean the initial 100-90 percent drop you are calling to quick sounds like its the fault of bad battery stats. If you need a link to how to reset your battery PM me only because I might not check back to this post lol.
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Well... I completely stopped charging my phone with the wall charger and I am now just using either my car charger or USB and i've noticed my phone over the last two days has probably doubled in being able to hold a charge. Today I made approximately 2 or 3 30 minute - 1 hour calls, used the internet approximately 20 times for about 5 minutes each time and used SNESnoid for approximately 1 hour straight and my battery was at 40% after a 10 hour work day, not too shabby. Not to mention I also don't get that annoying 10% drop within 10 minutes of unplugging the phone anymore
I've seen a ton of other battery tip's but I've yet to see any actually say stop using a wall charger all together. Here's to hoping this helps someone
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Hmmm... I don't think that USB/Wall would actually make a overall difference in battery life but it could be that it doesn't "idle the charging" when you hit close to a full charge. So you're probably just getting the extra 5-10% that you mentioned.
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Lol thanks for the tip. I highly doubt this is anymore then a placebo but good luck to whoever tries it. Not calling you OP I am just finding it hard to believe.
Furthermore, have you tried reseting your battery stats. I mean the initial 100-90 percent drop you are calling to quick sounds like its the fault of bad battery stats. If you need a link to how to reset your battery PM me only because I might not check back to this post lol.
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Ehh... I don't make BS threads, never have and those that know me from the Hero forums can vouch. Just posting my findings
Award Tour said:
Hmmm... I don't think that USB/Wall would actually make a overall difference in battery life but it could be that it doesn't "idle the charging" when you hit close to a full charge. So you're probably just getting the extra 5-10% that you mentioned.
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I know for a fact im getting the initial 10% but I looked at my battery today at 12:40 tonight before leaving work thinking "ahh crap I haven't charged it it's got to be at, at least 5-15% and nope, it was exactly 39%, I was amazed. Talked to a girl for about 40 minutes on my drive home, talked to another friend for 5 and battery dropped to 35%
I've noticed this as well. Days that I've only used my moto car charger, the battery (even the cheap ebay ones) seem to hold the charge better, which I thought was strange, because you would think it would be a worse -maybe equal- change.
Charges more slowly and fills up more?
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Charges more slowly and fills up more?
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That's my theory
This is the case with most batteries, and I thought it was common knowledge with Li-ion. The lower the current you charge with, the better the charge.
Using the higher amperage wall charger lets you hit the voltage peak quicker but, the topping charge will take longer. A lot of car chargers are just as high amperage as wall chargers.
Other things you can do to try maintain the capacity of the battery over the course of its life:
-NEVER let it get hot (whether from heavy usage or keeping it in a hot car or the sun)
-never deep cycle (totally kill the battery)
-try to keep it between 40 - 60% charge for most of its life (Li-ion batteries do not like being at full charge or no charge)
Doing any of these things once will not destroy the battery, but by the 500th charge cycle, you can bet your ass it will.
http://batteryuniversity.com/partone-12.htm
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2 or 3 30 minute - 1 hour calls
internet 20 times
SNESnoid
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work day
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Sounds like my kind of job! Seriously, I use USB (through a laptop) and car chargers almost exclusively and I have no real complaints about battery life. And by that I mean it gets me through the day, which is all I've come to expect from phones for the past few years. But I did happen to use a wall charger last night, and I have JuicePlotter active, so I did some checking.
Comparing my last overnight charge using my laptop's USB to last night's charge through a wall adapter, I found that the charging was actually faster through the laptop. I see that the charge tends to drop off as it approaches 100%, so I took pairs of points from uniform sections of each plot for my comparison:
Laptop USB:
44% to 82% in 41 minutes = 0.927% / min
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63% to 91% in 37 minutes = 0.757% / min
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Sounds like my kind of job! Seriously, I use USB (through a laptop) and car chargers almost exclusively and I have no real complaints about battery life. And by that I mean it gets me through the day, which is all I've come to expect from phones for the past few years. But I did happen to use a wall charger last night, and I have JuicePlotter active, so I did some checking.
Comparing my last overnight charge using my laptop's USB to last night's charge through a wall adapter, I found that the charging was actually faster through the laptop. I see that the charge tends to drop off as it approaches 100%, so I took pairs of points from uniform sections of each plot for my comparison:
Laptop USB:
44% to 82% in 41 minutes = 0.927% / min
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63% to 91% in 37 minutes = 0.757% / min
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Hah, yeah my job is pretty amazing sometimes but I have def quit using the wall charger (unless I absolutely have nothing else around)
As far as for droiddev... this is my first phone where charging it from different devices gives me different results. I don't see where it would be common sense, Li-ion batteries are not supposed to not have these memory leak/hold issues like past batteries. A charge is a charge to li-ion batteries, but not in this case.
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As far as for droiddev... this is my first phone where charging it from different devices gives me different results. I don't see where it would be common sense, Li-ion batteries are not supposed to not have these memory leak/hold issues like past batteries. A charge is a charge to li-ion batteries, but not in this case.
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Not sure what you mean, but you will get the most life out of your battery by charging it short spurts at a time over USB. Read the article I linked to and you will see what I mean, but you can get the best charge into your battery by slowly ramping up in steps with a low current charger.
Hello Experts,
I received a new nexus 4 and noticed that it takes around 3.5 to 4 hrs for complete charging from 5% to 100%.... is it normal? my other sony xperia seems to be charge in about 1..5 hr
since i am new to Nexus 4, not sure what is the avg charge time and should i call for RMA? Please let me know what is the avg time for charging.
thx
Ganu
Perfectly normal. You want a nice slow steady charge, especially in a sealed phone. The battery needs to last as long as possible. Fast charging batteries significantly reduces their lifespan. My old Nexus S takes the same amount of time to charge from 5%.. 3-4hrs or so give or take.. I still have the two year old original battery and it holds a charge just as well as it did the day I bought it. Meanwhile my 15 minute charge AA batteries I bought last year lose their charge in a week just sitting on the desk.
Mine is just about the same, but that's under use. If I don't touch the phone, it typically charges to 100% in about an hour.
And if it's through USB.. um.. more like 8 hours to fully charge.
Battery widget reborn (awesome app btw) says my phone usually charges in about 2.5 hours. This is on Qi though not sure about the regular wall charger.
2-2.5 hours for me on usb wall charger and Qi Orb.
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Battery widget reborn (awesome app btw) says my phone usually charges in about 2.5 hours. This is on Qi though not sure about the regular wall charger.
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I concur.
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From 2 hr 45 min (from around 12-15% juice left), my charge time has reached to 3 hr 30 mins now (i.e. from 1% juice left)... 14% juice wouldn't make such a huge difference so don't really know why it increased..
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From 2 hr 45 min (from around 12-15% juice left), my charge time has reached to 3 hr 30 mins now (i.e. from 1% juice left)... 14% juice wouldn't make such a huge difference so don't really know why it increased..
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yes, this is one of the reasons i started this thread to understand what everyone is experiencing.... i called up the google customer support and they are ready to send in a RMA as it appears to be a higher side...
so let me know your thoughts guys...should 3.5 hrs charge time considered high and warrant a RMA? share your thoughts.
^ Hmmm.. I doubt if this would mean anything serious or worth RMA-ing. I can but I won't RMA my device because it's been exceptional so far. I am fairly happy with it and wouldn't want to get it replaced with a defected one.
Its perfectly normal especially from around 5% to 100%.. In my experience if you dont let it get below 20% it usually charges faster. I wouldnt RMA it especially if your phone is perfectly fine in other aspects.
I tried with a different charger yesterday and it took similar time. The charger has same voltage input levels.
You charge 3 hours, for only double the lifetime. How pathetic, actually. I didn't thought that the battery life would be that bad. I can hardly make trough 1 day, if I play some games, make some calls, and use a little bit of internet. On the last charge I got 4Hours of screen on time with 15% left.
Gosh, at least it's fun to use it. :/
I thought the charge time would be long. This morning in class my battery dipped down to 12% as the class was wrapping up. I got back home around between (9:50 and 10am) and started charging my note 2014 while it was powered off. In ~2.5 hours I'm around 55-60%. Personally I don't think this is too bad at all.
What have your experiences been like so far?
Update. I just unplugged it and I'm at 91%. This thing charges much faster than I thought. What were the conditions in which reviewers said it was 7+ hours?
Update: I'm also interested in how long the charge tends to last for you.
mine was ~2.25 hrs from 20% to 80% then ~1.5hrs for 80%100%. the fast charge cycle is pretty decent, it's that last 20% trickle that can feel like it's dragging on. bmw pro says 4:14 for a full 0-100% charge which seems to be in line with my results.
I put mine on the charger at 5% before going to bed. When I got up 5 hours later it was fully charged. Not sure when it reached full charge but definitely less than 5 hours.
From 5% to 100% in 4hours en 45 minutes.At 5% screen on time of 7 hours en 24 minutes!
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mine was ~2.25 hrs from 20% to 80% then ~1.5hrs for 80%100%. the fast charge cycle is pretty decent, it's that last 20% trickle that can feel like it's dragging on. bmw pro says 4:14 for a full 0-100% charge which seems to be in line with my results.
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This occurs with mine as well. It's that 80-100% that takes a while but when I charge it anywhere before that it's pretty fast. Probably helps with the long term battery life. Which I'm fine with.
I'm thinking that review got a bad battery. This happened with my first GN10.1 when it took forever to charge after using it the first weekend.
I swapped it out and the new one charged fairly quickly (considering). This new tablet seems to be just a little longer to charge but not 7 hours.
This has been about my experience too. I was really worried before because a lot of reviews said this tablet takes forever to charge to full. Glad to see that smart-charging mitigates this almost completely since an 80% charge easily gets me through a full day of moderate use.
Mine has been 4.5-5 hours, which is AWESOME!
People expect it to charge as fast as their phone need to realize the battery is much larger! I have had the same experience with a new, bad battery taking longer to charge as well though.
The 1st picture attached is my charge time for one night so far. Using the System Monitor app. Really digging that app. You can even have floating windows that stay on top as you run things.
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my charge times are about 4 hours from 5% to 100 with screen on and energy saver, with it off, i go from 5% to 1005 in about 3 hours
As pleasant a surprise the charge time was I must admit that the charge tends to go pretty quickly. I'll post back with specifics when I get a chance to properly mark the times and usage.
I bought an Aukey quick charger (PA-T2) and thought some people might be interested in charging speeds on a Z5 as I couldn't really find any before I bought it (the ones in the UK at least do not come with a quick charger)
Sony claims on the Z5 site that you will get "a full days charge after 45 minutes".
What I've done to test is to wait till the battery got completely to 0% and turned itself off, then just plugged in the charger with the phone remaining off. After half an hour it had charged to 32%, and at 45 minutes it had reached 53%. Not sure that would count as "a full days charge", but it's quite significant and would probably last till the end of the day if you charged mid morning.
After that I turned the phone back on and checked on Ampere the charge rate, which at 56% was 2180mA. As the battery gets more charge this slows down.
- Once it reached 60% it slowed to around 1800-1850mA
- At 65%-85% it slowed to around 1500-1600mA
- At 75% the total charging time has been 1h 12m. As you can see the first two 25%'s took 22 minutes each, but this 3rd 25% took 32 minutes.
- After 1h 25m the charge was at 85%
- Between 87 and 90% charging rate slowed to 1220mA, 1h 32min since start.
- at 95% charging is crawling along at 650mA, took 10 minutes from 90-95%
- Completed charging at 1h59m.
As I was using the phone to check the charge rates etc, I would say it could probably be finished 10 minutes quicker. Also mobile network/data and wifi were on and normal apps syncing (for the 2nd half when the phone was on) - I wanted it to be a "typical" charge time instead of one where I couldn't send/receive messages etc.
So in conclusion, quick charge works significantly better from a low charge, but for little top ups above ~75% you might not see much benefit
How long would it take for the stock charger from 0-100? If you have the time, thanks bud
LitoNi said:
How long would it take for the stock charger from 0-100? If you have the time, thanks bud
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From 20-100 2 hours
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jeremy_inc said:
I bought an Aukey quick charger (PA-T2) and thought some people might be interested in charging speeds on a Z5 as I couldn't really find any before I bought it (the ones in the UK at least do not come with a quick charger)
Sony claims on the Z5 site that you will get "a full days charge after 45 minutes".
What I've done to test is to wait till the battery got completely to 0% and turned itself off, then just plugged in the charger with the phone remaining off. After half an hour it had charged to 32%, and at 45 minutes it had reached 53%. Not sure that would count as "a full days charge", but it's quite significant and would probably last till the end of the day if you charged mid morning.
After that I turned the phone back on and checked on Ampere the charge rate, which at 56% was 2180mA. As the battery gets more charge this slows down.
- Once it reached 60% it slowed to around 1800-1850mA
- At 65%-85% it slowed to around 1500-1600mA
- At 75% the total charging time has been 1h 12m. As you can see the first two 25%'s took 22 minutes each, but this 3rd 25% took 32 minutes.
- After 1h 25m the charge was at 85%
- Between 87 and 90% charging rate slowed to 1220mA, 1h 32min since start.
- at 95% charging is crawling along at 650mA, took 10 minutes from 90-95%
- Completed charging at 1h59m.
As I was using the phone to check the charge rates etc, I would say it could probably be finished 10 minutes quicker. Also mobile network/data and wifi were on and normal apps syncing (for the 2nd half when the phone was on) - I wanted it to be a "typical" charge time instead of one where I couldn't send/receive messages etc.
So in conclusion, quick charge works significantly better from a low charge, but for little top ups above ~75% you might not see much benefit
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"Up to 2 days' battery life"
"a full days charge after 45 minutes"
0%->53% in 45 minutes
100% / 2 days = 50%.
LitoNi said:
How long would it take for the stock charger from 0-100? If you have the time, thanks bud
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from 5% to 100% it took around 2 hours and 15 minutes.
so is it really a big difference between the stock charger and the quick charger?
By the way jeremy, did you charge the Z5 from the Aukey's orange port or from one of the green ports? I don't know if there's a difference but at least they're labeled differently, the orange port having the QC logo.
I did it from the orange QC port. My Z5 didn't come with a stock charger (O2 in the UK don't give you a charger "to save the environment").
If I plug the cable into one of the non-QC ports on that same Aukey charger the max charge rate it goes at is 1310mA (at 50%) and seems to vary down and then back up from that a bit, so the QC is definitely a lot better than the standard ports.
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"Up to 2 days' battery life"
"a full days charge after 45 minutes"
0%->53% in 45 minutes
100% / 2 days = 50%.
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There is NO way my Z5 lasts 2 days. I've been using it about a week now and the battery life is probably around 80% of what I would get out of my Z3. On the Z3 before Lollipop I would very often get 2 full days, but since then it was usually about 1.5 days. On the Z5 I'd say I get about 24-30h, little over 4h screen time, but as I said I've only had it a week so I'll see if it improves as I settle with it.
Seriously? It didn't come with a charger? I'm on O2 in the UK but got it through carphonewarehouse and I got a charger
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There is NO way my Z5 lasts 2 days. I've been using it about a week now and the battery life is probably around 80% of what I would get out of my Z3. On the Z3 before Lollipop I would very often get 2 full days, but since then it was usually about 1.5 days. On the Z5 I'd say I get about 24-30h, little over 4h screen time, but as I said I've only had it a week so I'll see if it improves as I settle with it.
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Ahem.. "Up to"
"used to say that something is less than or equal to but not more than a stated value, number, or level"
Umm, you are the one claiming "50% battery lasts 1 day" not me? My post referred to the claim of "one full days charge in 45 minutes". There is no "up to" there, you brought that in.
0-60 in 30 minutes?!
Qualcomm claim "In laboratory tests using a 3300mAh battery, a Quick Charge 2.0 enabled device went from 0% to 60% charge in 30 minutes"
I'm just wondering if anyone on here is actually getting this kind of result with their Quick Charger as my QC 2.0 certified charger (Tronsmart TS-WC1Q) only manages roughly 1% per minute. As the Z5 has a 2900mAh battery I was expecting even better results than the Qualcomm quoted 3300mAh charge time.
If you are getting roughly 60% charge in 30 minutes, please include your charger model and if the device was on or off during charging. Thanks!
ricodredd said:
Qualcomm claim "In laboratory tests using a 3300mAh battery, a Quick Charge 2.0 enabled device went from 0% to 60% charge in 30 minutes"
I'm just wondering if anyone on here is actually getting this kind of result with their Quick Charger as my QC 2.0 certified charger (Tronsmart TS-WC1Q) only manages roughly 1% per minute. As the Z5 has a 2900mAh battery I was expecting even better results than the Qualcomm quoted 3300mAh charge time.
If you are getting roughly 60% charge in 30 minutes, please include your charger model and if the device was on or off during charging. Thanks!
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C'mon guys, this was an easy one: 0%-60% in 30 minutes, TRUE or FALSE?
I'm trying to figure out if my Quick Chargers are working. Only quality cables used.
quick charge works normally when phone is off !
Mahdian57 said:
quick charge works normally when phone is off !
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Could you be clearer please? You're saying quick charger only quick charges when the phone is off? Or it operates like a regular charger when off and only quick charges when on?
Thanks.
I mean turning off phone completely.
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ricodredd said:
Qualcomm claim "In laboratory tests using a 3300mAh battery, a Quick Charge 2.0 enabled device went from 0% to 60% charge in 30 minutes"
I'm just wondering if anyone on here is actually getting this kind of result with their Quick Charger as my QC 2.0 certified charger (Tronsmart TS-WC1Q) only manages roughly 1% per minute. As the Z5 has a 2900mAh battery I was expecting even better results than the Qualcomm quoted 3300mAh charge time.
If you are getting roughly 60% charge in 30 minutes, please include your charger model and if the device was on or off during charging. Thanks!
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Read the online there are plenty of stats (infact even posted here the charge rates at different %), bigger the battery the more juice they can put in at higher charge rates for a longer period of time = more % charged. One thing you can be sure of is Qualcomm would have charged thousands of batteries and used the fastest in the advertising
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Umm, you are the one claiming "50% battery lasts 1 day" not me? My post referred to the claim of "one full days charge in 45 minutes". There is no "up to" there, you brought that in.
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Really??? People are referring to Sony's claim, read their disclaimers you will then understand where they get that figure from
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Really??? People are referring to Sony's claim, read their disclaimers you will then understand where they get that figure from
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You'll perhaps have to link to these disclaimers then. On their site they have the test results for the Z3 and Z3+ lasting 2 days but [not so] curiously no such evidence for the Z5, which a) does not last a day on 45 minute charge (which is what we are talking about) and b) anyway doesn't last 2 days on a full charge (which for some reason is what you are talking about).
Z5 battery life sucks compared to the Z3, yet they just continue the same claims with nothing to back them up. Look forward to your so called disclaimers and/or evidence of testing from Sony on this.
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You'll perhaps have to link to these disclaimers then. On their site they have the test results for the Z3 and Z3+ lasting 2 days but [not so] curiously no such evidence for the Z5, which a) does not last a day on 45 minute charge (which is what we are talking about) and b) anyway doesn't last 2 days on a full charge (which for some reason is what you are talking about).
Z5 battery life sucks compared to the Z3, yet they just continue the same claims with nothing to back them up. Look forward to your so called disclaimers and/or evidence of testing from Sony on this.
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Did your Z3 last two days? I doubt it as well because most people use the phone much more than the tests. At the end of the day the phone lasts a lot longer than the competition with the same usage.
It really doesn't take long to type http://www.sonymobile.com/ go to products click sony xperia z5 and read to save you some effort I have copied the text from the page, and I will bold them to make the statements harder to miss.
What if every day had more hours?
Do more with up to two days of battery life
Xperia Z5 brings you up to two days** of ground-breaking battery power from a single charge. Listen to more music, talk for days, and stay out longer without worry. When you do need topping up, Xperia Z5 has Quick Charge capabilities to get you a full day of power in just 45 minutes.
Note the to big arse ** after the words days? - This is a disclaimer
I am sure you now get the picture and can find what these **'s mean after the word days on the Sony website, hint it's right down the bottom of the Z5 product page
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I mean turning off phone completely.
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So you turn off you phone each time you want to charge it?
I am not sure where you get this from??? It works with the phone on!!!
It might work faster with the phone off, but so does a normal charger
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Note the to big arse ** after the words days? - This is a disclaimer
I am sure you now get the picture and can find what these **'s mean after the word days on the Sony website, hint it's right down the bottom of the Z5 product page
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You surely are joking right? How bout you follow that ** to the bottom, and see what this disclaimer says? It shows for other models but not the Z5. "**" by itself doesn't mean "we can say things that aren't true", it means "find the ** at the bottom we'll explain it". And as literally I just said (and linked to you), it shows results for their battery claim for other models but not the Z5. Because the Z5 doesn't last 2 days, they just say it does. This is the point of this conversation. I KNOW they say it on their website, it was me that said they say it on their website (and I linked to it there too) that started this whole conversation. The point is they can't back up the claim for this model, but they can for previous ones - because those ones did last 2 days (and they have the test results to show it). And yes my Z3 would last 2 days.
Anyway, you don't really seem like having a discussion, just saying "Sony website says 2 days" over and over, so that's it from me.
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You surely are joking right? How bout you follow that ** to the bottom, and see what this disclaimer says? It shows for other models but not the Z5. "**" by itself doesn't mean "we can say things that aren't true", it means "find the ** at the bottom we'll explain it". And as literally I just said (and linked to you), it shows results for their battery claim for other models but not the Z5. Because the Z5 doesn't last 2 days, they just say it does. This is the point of this conversation. I KNOW they say it on their website, it was me that said they say it on their website (and I linked to it there too) that started this whole conversation. The point is they can't back up the claim for this model, but they can for previous ones - because those ones did last 2 days (and they have the test results to show it). And yes my Z3 would last 2 days.
Anyway, you don't really seem like having a discussion, just saying "Sony website says 2 days" over and over, so that's it from me.
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The actual thread is actually about quick charge
Did you even read what I wrote, and pasted from the Sony page, the info is not on your link, it is on the Z5 product page, here I will post the whole link http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-z5/
Disclaimers are what they are - It is what it is, complain to them about it
Ok, quick edit 03/11
Below is post by post/day to day, my first real life experience with the PowerPie 20.000mAh 45w PD PPS powerbank.
I will summarise the whole thing with a few pics over the next few days but it's not a very long read if you want to get an idea of it, go ahead
For 58 Euro I think this is worth every cent.
Original first post below:
Hey guys/girls
I haven't been posting much for quite some time but still lurking in the background
I got a 20.000mAh powerbank today called PowerPie, it supports 45w pd pps charging so it is good for Note 10 plus onwards.
There's a link to it here but I'll update this thread with my personal experience as I get testing and trying it out.
Sorry if this has already been covered but I didn't see it mentioned anywhere here.
They do a 45w pd pps charger as well but I did not get that one as there was no 3 pin plug one.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/ELECJET-Po...owerpie&qid=1584195250&sprefix=Elecjet&sr=8-1
https://elecjet.co.uk
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Hey guys/girls
I haven't been posting much for quite some time but still lurking in the background
I got a 20.000mAh powerbank today called PowerPie, it supports 45w pd pps charging so it is good for Note 10 plus onwards.
There's a link to it here but I'll update this thread with my personal experience as I get testing and trying it out.
Sorry if this has already been covered but I didn't see it mentioned anywhere here.
They do a 45w pd pps charger as well but I did not get that one as there was no 3 pin plug one.
https://elecjet.com/collections/pow...-fast-charging-powerpie-x-20000mah-power-bank
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I got one of these. It works well and has amazing capacity. It's a bit bulky and I don't find myself actually carrying it with me often.
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I got one of these. It works well and has amazing capacity. It's a bit bulky and I don't find myself actually carrying it with me often.
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Personally I wouldn't need to carry it with me every single day but it is a nice option to have.
What charger/s do you use for it?
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Personally I wouldn't need to carry it with me every single day but it is a nice option to have.
What charger/s do you use for it?
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I'm using the Samsung 45w charger for it. It definitely takes full advantage of that charger.
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I'm using the Samsung 45w charger for it. It definitely takes full advantage of that charger.
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Super, that's the one I have as well so that's good to know.
I didn't know about the 45W charger from Elecjet when I bought the Samsung one but I only paid 37 quid so it is all good.
I think it will sell well since Samsung doesn't seem to be dropping price themselves
1st test
Got to try this thing out for the first time this morning.
I let the Note 10 plus drain until it turned itself off in a final death cramp of a vibration *
Using the short usb-c to usb-c cable that came with the PowerPie I plugged it in.*
I had already charged the PowerPie fully using the official Samsung 45 Watt charger.
Here is what I got at first attempt on my 5 months old Note 10 plus 5G from 0%
7 min - 14%
9 min - 22%
12 min - 30 %
20 min - 47%
30 min - 66% (I've seen claims of 69% but I find 66% perfectly acceptable)
40 min 83%
47 min 90%
1 hour - 96%
1.05 - 100%
Considering that this is a powerbank, not a wall charger I find it a VERY GOOD result.*
The PowerPie is still showing 3 of the 4 LED's so it is so far so good with hoping to get 4 full charges plus a bit but I'll report back on that later.
Update:
I did the 2nd full charge of my Galaxy Note 10 Plus 5G from 0% using the PowerPie and it was actually a minute or two quicker to both 90 and 100% today
but anything above 80% (42 minutes) is really irrelevant.
However, the positive taken from todays mini test is that during this 2nd charge cycle the led's on the PowerPie did drop from 3 to 2 but after charging the phone to a 100% there is still 2 led's lit up which should indicate that there is over 50% in *The Pie*
Tomorrow and the day after to go and I'll be able to confirm if a full 4 charges for the Note 10 plus 5G is possible but it is looking positive so far.
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Update:
I did the 2nd full charge of my Galaxy Note 10 Plus 5G from 0% using the PowerPie and it was actually a minute or two quicker to both 90 and 100% today
but anything above 80% (42 minutes) is really irrelevant.
However, the positive taken from todays mini test is that during this 2nd charge cycle the led's on the PowerPie did drop from 3 to 2 but after charging the phone to a 100% there is still 2 led's lit up which should indicate that there is over 50% in *The Pie*
Tomorrow and the day after to go and I'll be able to confirm if a full 4 charges for the Note 10 plus 5G is possible but it is looking positive so far.
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I think it drops off a bit faster near the end, I'd be surprised to get 4 charges, but I haven't tried.
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I think it drops off a bit faster near the end, I'd be surprised to get 4 charges, but I haven't tried.
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I'm giving it a go anyway, it will be nice to know how far it stretches for when you need it.
After this first initial testing it will be the exemption rather than the rule running *The Pie* flat again
I want to also see how quick it charges to full using the Samsung 45w charger so obviously have to run it dry.
Another Update.
Day 3:
3rd full charge cycle just done and there is still 1 led left on, on *The Pie* indicating that there is a minimum of 25% 5000mAh left in it, so it will be interesting tomorrow to see if that translates into a 4th full charge cycle.
Interesting thing from todays mini test was that I instead of letting the Galaxy Note 10 Plus die on it's own, I instead switched it off at 1% (letting Galaxy phones die completely have caused issues for customers in the past)*
This seems to have resulted in slightly faster charging as it went to 77% in 30-31 minutes and a full 100% in 96 minutes, which is a fair bit better than starting from completely dead.
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Another Update.
Day 3:
3rd full charge cycle just done and there is still 1 led left on, on *The Pie* indicating that there is a minimum of 25% 5000mAh left in it, so it will be interesting tomorrow to see if that translates into a 4th full charge cycle.
Interesting thing from todays mini test was that I instead of letting the Galaxy Note 10 Plus die on it's own, I instead switched it off at 1% (letting Galaxy phones die completely have caused issues for customers in the past)*
This seems to have resulted in slightly faster charging as it went to 77% in 30-31 minutes and a full 100% in 96 minutes, which is a fair bit better than starting from completely dead.
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Hi Friends,
I have been thinking of getting the 45 watt samsung charger myself but then had this thought of going for a 65 watt Type C charger for a dell chromebook 3380.
Note 10+ is supposed to be able to take upto 47 watts if I'm not mistaken. please correct me if I'm wrong. The dell charger will work for the phone and the chromebook both and costs around $52-55 here. The Samsung Charger on the online Sammy store is also $53-55 and that in my currency equals ₹3500 - 4200 approx. The chromebook charger will actually cost less because the don't sell that well but the Samsung won't be coming down anytime soon atleast which makes me lean towards the dell.
You maybe aware that oppo is shipping the Reno 2 or 3 whichever it is they launched few days ago with a 65 watt fast charger.
After reading through this topic and your posts one thing I found surprising is that the charge times are actually more than my standard 25 watt charger that came in the box. Is it that the power bank is not putting out 45 watts for charging the phone but is capable of being charged with a 45 watt charger?
I think if we use a 45 watt charger for the phone itself the total time to go from 0% to 100% should not be more than 30-35 minutes. Is that correct, because you have those chargers I think you would be the right ones to throw some light on this.
Thanks for sharing and I am looking forward to your advice/experience in this regard.
Have a great day ahead, it is 4.20 am in India right now for others I would say sleep well if it's bedtime.
This is the longest time I have been on a phone without rooting it, which I will do soon. I wanted to check how true the statement that most apps that needed root can now work without it.
It hasn't turned out to be quite like that, titanium backup needs root and most importantly the best audio mod for android ViperFX needs root too. I have also been running 2 sim cards and the micro sd card at the same time, which samsung has blocked and thus can't be done without rooting and a custom os.
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Hi centaur31
Don't get just any 45w charger as you will end up with something that only charges you phone at 15w or maybe 25w if you are lucky.
Reason for this is that you need a pd pps charger, just pd won't work.
Oppo and other OEMs use different proprietary types of fast charging so their chargers won't work either.
From 0-100 % your 25W charger will be nearly as quick as the 45w only about 10 minutes difference.
The 45W is a good bit faster at the lower and mid so disregard between 80-100% it's not how it was designed.
No your 25W will not charge faster than either this 45w PowerPie or Samsung 45w between 80-100%
I have 25/45w from Samsung and also now this powerbank so I can guarantee that.
I can't help you with the Root questions as I haven't been doing that since Note 4, to me the 8/9/10 is fine without Root
Sorry I missed a thing there...
No 45w will not charge to 100% in 30-35min.
55min. is probably the best you can expect to see and 1.05h from the 25w
Final day of this mini test of the *The Pie* with the Note 10 Plus 5G
I let the phone go down to 1% again and plugged it in, there was still 1 of the 4 LEDs lit up on the power bank so I was a little optimistic about maybe getting a full 4th charge out of it but it wasn't to be....
However...It stopped at bang on 60% so all in I think it is a very respectable result considering that this is a 45W fast charging powerbank.
3 full 4300mAh charges plus one at 60% (2580mAh) if you can calculate it that directly.
Is it worth the 58 Euro I paid for it... I most certainly think so
I measured Powerpie bank and official 45w charger do not go pass 38w no matter what so in reality its 38w charger.. also there's Baseus PPS 45w car charger that works with Note 10+ and it maxes out at 38w as well (when the phone is completely dead, it's even lower if it has some juice still left).. so don't spend arm and a leg on that new car charger Samsung just announced, I payed for Baseus 12$ on ebay [emoji23]
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The Baseus I'm sure doesn't do 45W pps but I doubt that you are correct about both Samsungs charger and the PowerPie.
I would question your testing/measurement methods a bit, simply because you can't get ANY of the 3 different pieces of equipment to go over 38w
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The Baseus I'm sure doesn't do 45W pps but I doubt that you are correct about both Samsungs charger and the PowerPie.
I would question your testing/measurement methods a bit, simply because you can't get ANY of the 3 different pieces of equipment to go over 38w
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did you try testing official charger? if yes what was your results?
p. s I was able to get 38.5 on pie I believe, the other ones would wary 38.xxxw
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I think it drops off a bit faster near the end, I'd be surprised to get 4 charges, but I haven't tried.
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did you try testing official charger? if yes what was your results?
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I didn't find it necessary to test the official charger as it delivered the charging times that Samsung claims it should.
Are you sure you are using the correct type cable for testing?
OK so you didn't actually measured the actual wattage at various stages of the battery lol until you do, how can you argue that I'm doing something incorrectly, see for yourself
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Well they're claiming UP TO 45w, not 45w all the time so in reality that means that if it only hit 45w once or twice then it does what they say
I'm happy enough with the charging results I have gotten anyway as they have lived up to expectations.
Next to try is the pps car charger