[Q] Nexus 4 Charge time - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello Experts,
I received a new nexus 4 and noticed that it takes around 3.5 to 4 hrs for complete charging from 5% to 100%.... is it normal? my other sony xperia seems to be charge in about 1..5 hr
since i am new to Nexus 4, not sure what is the avg charge time and should i call for RMA? Please let me know what is the avg time for charging.
thx
Ganu

Perfectly normal. You want a nice slow steady charge, especially in a sealed phone. The battery needs to last as long as possible. Fast charging batteries significantly reduces their lifespan. My old Nexus S takes the same amount of time to charge from 5%.. 3-4hrs or so give or take.. I still have the two year old original battery and it holds a charge just as well as it did the day I bought it. Meanwhile my 15 minute charge AA batteries I bought last year lose their charge in a week just sitting on the desk.

Mine is just about the same, but that's under use. If I don't touch the phone, it typically charges to 100% in about an hour.
And if it's through USB.. um.. more like 8 hours to fully charge.

Battery widget reborn (awesome app btw) says my phone usually charges in about 2.5 hours. This is on Qi though not sure about the regular wall charger.

2-2.5 hours for me on usb wall charger and Qi Orb.

midnightmach said:
Battery widget reborn (awesome app btw) says my phone usually charges in about 2.5 hours. This is on Qi though not sure about the regular wall charger.
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I concur.
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From 2 hr 45 min (from around 12-15% juice left), my charge time has reached to 3 hr 30 mins now (i.e. from 1% juice left)... 14% juice wouldn't make such a huge difference so don't really know why it increased..

filthykid said:
From 2 hr 45 min (from around 12-15% juice left), my charge time has reached to 3 hr 30 mins now (i.e. from 1% juice left)... 14% juice wouldn't make such a huge difference so don't really know why it increased..
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yes, this is one of the reasons i started this thread to understand what everyone is experiencing.... i called up the google customer support and they are ready to send in a RMA as it appears to be a higher side...
so let me know your thoughts guys...should 3.5 hrs charge time considered high and warrant a RMA? share your thoughts.

^ Hmmm.. I doubt if this would mean anything serious or worth RMA-ing. I can but I won't RMA my device because it's been exceptional so far. I am fairly happy with it and wouldn't want to get it replaced with a defected one.

Its perfectly normal especially from around 5% to 100%.. In my experience if you dont let it get below 20% it usually charges faster. I wouldnt RMA it especially if your phone is perfectly fine in other aspects.

I tried with a different charger yesterday and it took similar time. The charger has same voltage input levels.

You charge 3 hours, for only double the lifetime. How pathetic, actually. I didn't thought that the battery life would be that bad. I can hardly make trough 1 day, if I play some games, make some calls, and use a little bit of internet. On the last charge I got 4Hours of screen on time with 15% left.
Gosh, at least it's fun to use it. :/

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Yet Another Battery Tip

Well... I completely stopped charging my phone with the wall charger and I am now just using either my car charger or USB and i've noticed my phone over the last two days has probably doubled in being able to hold a charge. Today I made approximately 2 or 3 30 minute - 1 hour calls, used the internet approximately 20 times for about 5 minutes each time and used SNESnoid for approximately 1 hour straight and my battery was at 40% after a 10 hour work day, not too shabby. Not to mention I also don't get that annoying 10% drop within 10 minutes of unplugging the phone anymore
I've seen a ton of other battery tip's but I've yet to see any actually say stop using a wall charger all together. Here's to hoping this helps someone
Lol thanks for the tip. I highly doubt this is anymore then a placebo but good luck to whoever tries it. Not calling you OP I am just finding it hard to believe.
Furthermore, have you tried reseting your battery stats. I mean the initial 100-90 percent drop you are calling to quick sounds like its the fault of bad battery stats. If you need a link to how to reset your battery PM me only because I might not check back to this post lol.
DirtyShroomz said:
Well... I completely stopped charging my phone with the wall charger and I am now just using either my car charger or USB and i've noticed my phone over the last two days has probably doubled in being able to hold a charge. Today I made approximately 2 or 3 30 minute - 1 hour calls, used the internet approximately 20 times for about 5 minutes each time and used SNESnoid for approximately 1 hour straight and my battery was at 40% after a 10 hour work day, not too shabby. Not to mention I also don't get that annoying 10% drop within 10 minutes of unplugging the phone anymore
I've seen a ton of other battery tip's but I've yet to see any actually say stop using a wall charger all together. Here's to hoping this helps someone
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Hmmm... I don't think that USB/Wall would actually make a overall difference in battery life but it could be that it doesn't "idle the charging" when you hit close to a full charge. So you're probably just getting the extra 5-10% that you mentioned.
twilk73 said:
Lol thanks for the tip. I highly doubt this is anymore then a placebo but good luck to whoever tries it. Not calling you OP I am just finding it hard to believe.
Furthermore, have you tried reseting your battery stats. I mean the initial 100-90 percent drop you are calling to quick sounds like its the fault of bad battery stats. If you need a link to how to reset your battery PM me only because I might not check back to this post lol.
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Ehh... I don't make BS threads, never have and those that know me from the Hero forums can vouch. Just posting my findings
Award Tour said:
Hmmm... I don't think that USB/Wall would actually make a overall difference in battery life but it could be that it doesn't "idle the charging" when you hit close to a full charge. So you're probably just getting the extra 5-10% that you mentioned.
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I know for a fact im getting the initial 10% but I looked at my battery today at 12:40 tonight before leaving work thinking "ahh crap I haven't charged it it's got to be at, at least 5-15% and nope, it was exactly 39%, I was amazed. Talked to a girl for about 40 minutes on my drive home, talked to another friend for 5 and battery dropped to 35%
I've noticed this as well. Days that I've only used my moto car charger, the battery (even the cheap ebay ones) seem to hold the charge better, which I thought was strange, because you would think it would be a worse -maybe equal- change.
Charges more slowly and fills up more?
oOflyeyesOo said:
Charges more slowly and fills up more?
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That's my theory
This is the case with most batteries, and I thought it was common knowledge with Li-ion. The lower the current you charge with, the better the charge.
Using the higher amperage wall charger lets you hit the voltage peak quicker but, the topping charge will take longer. A lot of car chargers are just as high amperage as wall chargers.
Other things you can do to try maintain the capacity of the battery over the course of its life:
-NEVER let it get hot (whether from heavy usage or keeping it in a hot car or the sun)
-never deep cycle (totally kill the battery)
-try to keep it between 40 - 60% charge for most of its life (Li-ion batteries do not like being at full charge or no charge)
Doing any of these things once will not destroy the battery, but by the 500th charge cycle, you can bet your ass it will.
http://batteryuniversity.com/partone-12.htm
DirtyShroomz said:
2 or 3 30 minute - 1 hour calls
internet 20 times
SNESnoid
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work day
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Sounds like my kind of job! Seriously, I use USB (through a laptop) and car chargers almost exclusively and I have no real complaints about battery life. And by that I mean it gets me through the day, which is all I've come to expect from phones for the past few years. But I did happen to use a wall charger last night, and I have JuicePlotter active, so I did some checking.
Comparing my last overnight charge using my laptop's USB to last night's charge through a wall adapter, I found that the charging was actually faster through the laptop. I see that the charge tends to drop off as it approaches 100%, so I took pairs of points from uniform sections of each plot for my comparison:
Laptop USB:
44% to 82% in 41 minutes = 0.927% / min
Wall:
63% to 91% in 37 minutes = 0.757% / min
kzibart said:
Sounds like my kind of job! Seriously, I use USB (through a laptop) and car chargers almost exclusively and I have no real complaints about battery life. And by that I mean it gets me through the day, which is all I've come to expect from phones for the past few years. But I did happen to use a wall charger last night, and I have JuicePlotter active, so I did some checking.
Comparing my last overnight charge using my laptop's USB to last night's charge through a wall adapter, I found that the charging was actually faster through the laptop. I see that the charge tends to drop off as it approaches 100%, so I took pairs of points from uniform sections of each plot for my comparison:
Laptop USB:
44% to 82% in 41 minutes = 0.927% / min
Wall:
63% to 91% in 37 minutes = 0.757% / min
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Hah, yeah my job is pretty amazing sometimes but I have def quit using the wall charger (unless I absolutely have nothing else around)
As far as for droiddev... this is my first phone where charging it from different devices gives me different results. I don't see where it would be common sense, Li-ion batteries are not supposed to not have these memory leak/hold issues like past batteries. A charge is a charge to li-ion batteries, but not in this case.
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As far as for droiddev... this is my first phone where charging it from different devices gives me different results. I don't see where it would be common sense, Li-ion batteries are not supposed to not have these memory leak/hold issues like past batteries. A charge is a charge to li-ion batteries, but not in this case.
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Not sure what you mean, but you will get the most life out of your battery by charging it short spurts at a time over USB. Read the article I linked to and you will see what I mean, but you can get the best charge into your battery by slowly ramping up in steps with a low current charger.

Why does this phone take so long to charge?

I have had it plugged into the mains, running tunein radio through wifi and its gone from 85% to 86% in one hour.
If I charge from 10% with phone off it takes about 4 hours to fully charge
If I charge from 10% with my phone on running stuff, it actually never gets to fully charges by the time I finish work...at 6pm
Sorry to keep comparing to the dreaded FruitPhone, but that would charge whilst running wifi and tunein from 10% to 100% in about 2 hours.
I am beginning to think my SGS2 is faulty
i am fiding it takes about 3 hours to charge from empty . It does take a long time indeed but i guess it is what we have to do for a 1650mah battery
3 hours from empty with stock charger .
jje
it might well be a 1650 battery, but it starts to get unusable when it takes all day to charge then a few hours to loose it all.
This phone is the greatest but the battery life just completely destroys it, I am beginning to think I made the wrong choice
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3 hours from empty with stock charger .
jje
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Is that while using it?
you are not supposed to use the phone when its charging its really bad for the battery it gets very warm during charging as it is...
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you are not supposed to use the phone when its charging its really bad for the battery it gets very warm during charging as it is...
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Aye... if I don't the bloomin thing would be dead by lunchtime, and I listen to music.
So I basically have to turn it off not use it so I can charge it, how crap is that, owned my iphone a year never had any problems with battery and I always used and charged in its dock.
The desire had slow charging too but snq- fixed this in his kernels maybe we can port his fix to our kernels
btw it's true li-ion batteries degrade quicky when the heat up (or completely charge or discharge)
From 30% it took me one hour and a half to fully charge..
I recommend to download battery mix as it takes very good statistic on the battery life and one can tell exactly how long it takes to charge and discharge
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just for the record all Lion batteries in phones never fully discharge or recharge, as there balanced by a balancing chip.
when you get to the likes of 0% you actually have 20% charge, thats why you can power on the phone but it will immediately switch off again. like wise, charging you never reach 100%, it's more like 89%, again because of how Lion works.
if you fully discharged and fully recharged, well put it simply you'd have a lot of exploding phones, fire and chemical burns...
Interesting!
My phone charges in about 2,5 - 3 hours, so should be normal...
But charging with the usb cable connected to the pc it takes much longer.
Any of you experience the same thing?
greets!
THUDUK said:
I have had it plugged into the mains, running tunein radio through wifi and its gone from 85% to 86% in one hour.
If I charge from 10% with phone off it takes about 4 hours to fully charge
If I charge from 10% with my phone on running stuff, it actually never gets to fully charges by the time I finish work...at 6pm
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Because:
a) That´s how Li-Ion-batteries are charged. To fully charge a Li-Ion-battery you need 3-4h.
b) The power-supply is pretty weak. It is just enough to charge the phone at decent speed, but it is not enough to charge it and intensely use it the same time. In this case much of the power is used by the phone and there is not enough left to do a proper charging. I use a 1,2A power-supply from my old Nokia, and while it won´t speed up charging itself, at least it slows down less when I´m using the phone while charging.
Sorry to keep comparing to the dreaded FruitPhone, but that would charge whilst running wifi and tunein from 10% to 100% in about 2 hours.
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This is not possible. The mighty fruity-phone may tell you it is 100% charged, but certainly it isn´t
You can charge a Li-Ion-battery very fast from 0 to 70-85% you could reach this in 1h. But you have to charge the remaining 15-30% very slowly, otherwise the voltage would raise too much and destroy your battery.
The so called saturation-stage (the charging-stage until 100%) takes longer the faster you charged at the beginning. If you really charged until the saturation-stage in 1h, the saturation-stage will take 2-3h.
If you charge slower, so you reach saturation-stage after 2h, the saturation-stage will only take 1-2h anymore.
In the end it will always take 3-4h to fully charge a Li-Ion-cell, regardless how strong your power-supply is.
Another few notes:
Charging will get slower the fuller the battery already is.
Using the phone with low battery-percentage will lengthen the charging-time quite a bit, a stronger power-supply could help.
Getting the last 20% in a Li-Ion-cell will always be very slow, usage of the phone won´t influence this a lot, and a stronger power-supply can´t help.
It doesn´t matter much, how much charge is left in the battery, to fully charge it it will always take long, as you spend most of the time in the saturation-stage (the higher the left percentage is, the more time you spent in saturation-stage)
I am beginning to think my SGS2 is faulty
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It is not faulty, it is designed this way.
It took 3 hours 10 minutes to fully charge my dog and bone yesterday whilst off
Thanks for the explanation!
jonny68 said:
It took 3 hours 10 minutes to fully charge my dog and bone yesterday whilst off
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Your having a bubble bath ain't you mate
Your battery sounds faulty to me, taking over 4 hours and only charging 1 percent in an hour. Try the battery calibration app in the market, if it doesn't improve get it swapped mate
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The wifi is the killer, try turning it off when charging your phone..
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it takes so long to charge because samsung capped the charge current at 650 mA in the battery driver. but other phones like HTC allow charging at the full 1 amp. so that's why its a slow charge, and why its possible to drain the battery even while plugged in to the charger.
Now who wants to ask kernel developers to increase that to .850 or 1 amp and use that lol.
I believe lack of heatsink due to design is the culprit behind decision to cap it at .650.
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3 hrs to fully charge, and as i use tunein radio a lot i can tell you on my device with the screen off, wifi on with tunein running, it still seems to take no more than 3 hours maybe 15 mins more at most
I am probably going to order a cheap eBay Li-Ion battery that's 1800mAH and likely has a charge cap closer to 1000mAH. I will know in a week when I finally get my phone and report back if that battery helps. I expect it to heat up while charging and am going to use an external charger.
Two replacement batteries and an external charger go for about $12 USD on eBay btw.

[Q] What are your charge times looking like?

I thought the charge time would be long. This morning in class my battery dipped down to 12% as the class was wrapping up. I got back home around between (9:50 and 10am) and started charging my note 2014 while it was powered off. In ~2.5 hours I'm around 55-60%. Personally I don't think this is too bad at all.
What have your experiences been like so far?
Update. I just unplugged it and I'm at 91%. This thing charges much faster than I thought. What were the conditions in which reviewers said it was 7+ hours?
Update: I'm also interested in how long the charge tends to last for you.
mine was ~2.25 hrs from 20% to 80% then ~1.5hrs for 80%100%. the fast charge cycle is pretty decent, it's that last 20% trickle that can feel like it's dragging on. bmw pro says 4:14 for a full 0-100% charge which seems to be in line with my results.
I put mine on the charger at 5% before going to bed. When I got up 5 hours later it was fully charged. Not sure when it reached full charge but definitely less than 5 hours.
From 5% to 100% in 4hours en 45 minutes.At 5% screen on time of 7 hours en 24 minutes!
madsquabbles said:
mine was ~2.25 hrs from 20% to 80% then ~1.5hrs for 80%100%. the fast charge cycle is pretty decent, it's that last 20% trickle that can feel like it's dragging on. bmw pro says 4:14 for a full 0-100% charge which seems to be in line with my results.
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This occurs with mine as well. It's that 80-100% that takes a while but when I charge it anywhere before that it's pretty fast. Probably helps with the long term battery life. Which I'm fine with.
I'm thinking that review got a bad battery. This happened with my first GN10.1 when it took forever to charge after using it the first weekend.
I swapped it out and the new one charged fairly quickly (considering). This new tablet seems to be just a little longer to charge but not 7 hours.
This has been about my experience too. I was really worried before because a lot of reviews said this tablet takes forever to charge to full. Glad to see that smart-charging mitigates this almost completely since an 80% charge easily gets me through a full day of moderate use.
Mine has been 4.5-5 hours, which is AWESOME!
People expect it to charge as fast as their phone need to realize the battery is much larger! I have had the same experience with a new, bad battery taking longer to charge as well though.
The 1st picture attached is my charge time for one night so far. Using the System Monitor app. Really digging that app. You can even have floating windows that stay on top as you run things.
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my charge times are about 4 hours from 5% to 100 with screen on and energy saver, with it off, i go from 5% to 1005 in about 3 hours
As pleasant a surprise the charge time was I must admit that the charge tends to go pretty quickly. I'll post back with specifics when I get a chance to properly mark the times and usage.

BATTERY LIFE: Charging Speed

To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Note5 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Phone isint charging past 1000 mA on stock cable. However using one from PS4 is giving full 1800-2000 mA! Did I get a faulty cable by any chance ? N920C
This is the fastest charging phone ever! During the days where I use the phone heavily, it will drop to about 15-20% around 4 PM, my day starts at 5 AM. That's when I unplug my phone also. So great battery life for me. It will charge from 10% to 100% in about 1 hr or just slightly more. Can't complain about it, it a great feature.
lol just plug my phone in, went to starbucks come back at 80% from 39% in around 30-40 min
I got the phone down to 1% and it took 1 hour 36 mins to charge to 100%
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Driving me crazy
i have to try at least 5-7 times to get it into fast charging mod
otherwise it will keep charge normaly
Mohammed-noor said:
i have to try at least 5-7 times to get it into fast charging mod
otherwise it will keep charge normaly
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Just switch the cable, had that problem.
The cable that i got with the phone is garbage, any other one will do the trick.
Charges as fast or faster than my S6 did, which is awesome since the battery is bigger. IF I use it heavily throughout the day and get it below 50% I'll throw it on the fast charger (wired) while doing dishes or something and I get almost 2%/min. 10 minutes will get me almost 20% more battery and I'm golden for the rest of the day with heavy use (CoC attacks all night lol)
vakenT said:
Just switch the cable, had that problem.
The cable that i got with the phone is garbage, any other one will do the trick.
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same thing,thanks any way
1h 10min or 1h 20mins fully charged everytime.
Wireless Fast Charger
Got 2 wireless chargers. 1 from Costco when i got the note 5 and the other when i activated samsung pay. Sold them both for 20 each and bought the fast charger. Less sensitive when looking for that "sweet spot" and seems to charge just as fast as factory cable. About an hour and twenty minutes to charge fully. Battery lasts pretty good on stock even before using package disabler pro.
A little over an hour here for me for a full charge.
charging speed is very fast. from 20% in just few minutes charged goes up to 50%. from drained battery to full charge takes about 1 hour and 20 mins. looking for suggestions for good power bank with wireless charging capability for this phone.
awesome speed
Deep sleep issue
1 hour 13 min
jhylez said:
charging speed is very fast. from 20% in just few minutes charged goes up to 50%. from drained battery to full charge takes about 1 hour and 20 mins. looking for suggestions for good power bank with wireless charging capability for this phone.
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The Pleson wireless fast charge that I bought on Amazon for 18 dollars charges my phone in a little less than 75 minutes from 5% to 100%.. The phone does get a little hot though.
You guys talk about charging time while Fast Charge features enabled.
How about normal charge ?
I was disabled fast charge feature and tried to plug my phone to my charge. It took me more than 4 hours to fully charged from 15% of battery.
why waste time with regular charging when it takes 1hr 11 min to 100% from 15%....charging with phone off.
if you charge while on the phone is on & continually updating social media, email, stocks/bonds/financial, it'll take a long time, if you ever see 100%.
I don't fully deplete my battery anymore, since it's not replaceable. When I had the note 3 with another spare battery and usb 3.0 wire charger I got it down it like 10% than charge. Life is a little different on the note 5. I have to charge my phone while at work, at least once a day sometimes 2 times if I'm heavily using my phone. Just the combination of bad 3g service here at work and Really good 4G LTE service, in certain areas, brings my battery performance down. But no problem, I have fast wired charger, from 20% to 100% in about 1 hour and 10 mins while the phone is on and even faster with the phone off. At home, I have fast wireless charger which I use, right before I sleep when I don't need a fast charge. A little slower than the fast wired charger, but 20% to 100% in 1 hour and 30 mins. I also have a non fast wireless charger but it's sort of useless. It only works will with my brother's s6 and now his s7.

How to fast charge the lg g6

Its been like 2-3 months since im using the lg g6
I see that the charge time taken is around 1hr 40 mins to 2 hrs.
I wanted to know if its possible to make it charge in lesser time as i have moved out of town and i travel a lot. I get like 1600ma in ampere from default charger i tried using the opt dadh charger im getting like 1500 ma oonly .
Any idea what to do ?
Razermax006 said:
Its been like 2-3 months since im using the lg g6
I see that the charge time taken is around 1hr 40 mins to 2 hrs.
I wanted to know if its possible to make it charge in lesser time as i have moved out of town and i travel a lot. I get like 1600ma in ampere from default charger i tried using the opt dadh charger im getting like 1500 ma oonly .
Any idea what to do ?
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The charger that comes in the box for US models isn't quick charge 3. I got Aukey QC3 from Amazon. I rarely let it get low enough to know precisely how long a full charge takes though. My partial charges usually an hour. Often I don't charge the last 5-10% as it takes far too long for the benefit it provides. Also take a charger with you! car charger, wall charger, charge in restaurants etc
I have a Pixel 2 USB.PD charger that fast charges in roughly the same time. The one that came with the phone is slower, but not by a lot.
Thanks for the information
From some days im having battery drain issue im getting like 9-10 hrs standbytime with 2:30 mins sot mobile network in use any thing i can do to increase it
In battery options, look at app usage by percentage.
In developer options look at running services & see what's running for the longest.
For me, firefox takes the largest chunk of power by far, everything else is at 1-2%
I have about 80 user apps installed, I avoid all apps with ads & still get 4 hours SOT on a year old device. Also I live in a valley with terrible signal. So I get battery drain from the GSM/LTE radio which is usually at 1 bar.

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