Hi Guys;
Want to talk of the external DACs.
As we do not have jack on our phone, here a little list of compatible DAC.
Ibasso DC01 ~50$
Review
Unfortunatelly Ibasso says that there's some compatibility issues with Galaxy Series including Note.
It works very well on mine. N975F
Ibasso DC02 ("unbalanced version" of the DC01) ~50$
SMSL Idea ~85$
Review
EarStudio ES100 ~99$
Review
Audioquest DragonFly Cobalt ~299$
Review
Hidizs Sonata HD-D ~30$
Review
I've an Ibasso DC01 and it's wonderfull. I never had a sound like this with a smartphone.
Do you use one too ?
I've been using a smsl idea dac with this phone. It's pretty solid and doesn't drain to much battery.
This was a SOLID buy, IMO. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078H4YD2L/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
roaduardo said:
This was a SOLID buy, IMO. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078H4YD2L/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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+1 for this DAC. I'm using it with Shure 845 earphones, connected with a balanced 2.5mm adapter listening to TIDAL Hi-Fi/Master music saved to my device. Simply superb! i travel 43+ weeks a year and this music combination makes the long commutes (3+hour flights) easier to tolerate.
billy_boolean said:
Hi Guys;
Want to talk of the external DACs.
I've an Ibasso DC01 and it's wonderfull. I never had a sound like this with a smartphone.
Unfortunatelly Ibasso says that there's some compatibility issues with Galaxy Series including Note.
It works very well on mine. N975F
Do you use one too ?
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What compatibility issues? I too am using Note 10+ and iBasso DC01, streaming Tidal via USB Audio Player Pro, and all is working very well. Very happy with the DC01 sound
This has been a great option since I got my note10+ https://www.amazon.com/FiiO-BTR3-Bluetooth-Receiver-Portable/dp/B07SM53586/ref=pd_cp_23_1?pd_rd_w=nIKPc&pf_rd_p=ef4dc990-a9ca-4945-ae0b-f8d549198ed6&pf_rd_r=WXJ9NFZBTP7ND1NBBHKF&pd_rd_r=11e0eb83-d4f3-4773-a5a1-9d5b441cabda&pd_rd_wg=bAgbx&pd_rd_i=B07FVN14FH&refRID=WXJ9NFZBTP7ND1NBBHKF&th=1
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What compatibility issues? I too am using Note 10+ and iBasso DC01, streaming Tidal via USB Audio Player Pro, and all is working very well. Very happy with the DC01 sound
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It seems that it simply doesn't work on a large number of Galaxy devices.
wwyjoe said:
What compatibility issues? I too am using Note 10+ and iBasso DC01, streaming Tidal via USB Audio Player Pro, and all is working very well. Very happy with the DC01 sound
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What note are you using, exynos or sd?
warren2781 said:
What note are you using, exynos or sd?
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Exynos
warren2781 said:
What note are you using, exynos or sd?
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Exynos
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Exynos too.
I wonder if it's a snapdragon thing. But like I said I'm using an smsl idea dac and it works wonderfully. I'm tempted to order the ibasso dc01 but I can't find it for anything lower than $75usd. I have the the snapdragon note.
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I wonder if it's a snapdragon thing. But like I said I'm using an smsl idea dac and it works wonderfully. I'm tempted to order the ibasso dc01 but I can't find it for anything lower than $75usd. I have the the snapdragon note.
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SMSL Idea seems to be a great value.
Just read a review.
Audioquest Dragonfly Cobalt user here. Works wonderful.
Samzebian said:
This has been a great option since I got my note10+ https://www.amazon.com/FiiO-BTR3-Bluetooth-Receiver-Portable/dp/B07SM53586/ref=pd_cp_23_1?pd_rd_w=nIKPc&pf_rd_p=ef4dc990-a9ca-4945-ae0b-f8d549198ed6&pf_rd_r=WXJ9NFZBTP7ND1NBBHKF&pd_rd_r=11e0eb83-d4f3-4773-a5a1-9d5b441cabda&pd_rd_wg=bAgbx&pd_rd_i=B07FVN14FH&refRID=WXJ9NFZBTP7ND1NBBHKF&th=1
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I use the Fiio BTR3 as well, great little DAC/AMP especially once you enable the LDAC codec in dev options and stream HiFi audio with a source like TIDAL. Paired it with 1MORE Quad Driver earbuds that run 32Ohm impedance which the BTR3 is able to output.
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I use the Fiio BTR3 as well, great little DAC/AMP especially once you enable the LDAC codec in dev options and stream HiFi audio with a source like TIDAL. Paired it with 1MORE Quad Driver earbuds that run 32Ohm impedance which the BTR3 is able to output.
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Yup, although I am using Etymotic Er4XR with this. I unfortunately am using Apple Music, stuck in their ecosystem. But sounds great so far with LDAC!
Question, do you have the ability to change the LDAC settings to highest quality in dev options? I tried but it keeps reverting to best effort?
I have Hidizs Sonata using exynos model. Best sound Ive ever heard using my Westone W60's. Even better than my previous LG V30. Large soundstage and very loud. I didn't expect this but I'm very happy about it.
I found a cheap $7 adapter/DAC and it plays nicely with my KZ earbuds (supports 24bit/384). Before I was looking into the UP4, BTR5, etc. But for now I'll hold off buying more expensive gear.
d.cortez said:
+1 for this DAC. I'm using it with Shure 845 earphones, connected with a balanced 2.5mm adapter listening to TIDAL Hi-Fi/Master music saved to my device. Simply superb! i travel 43+ weeks a year and this music combination makes the long commutes (3+hour flights) easier to tolerate.
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I have a pair of se845s as well. I just bought the Shure usb-c to mmcx cable which obviously has a DAC built in. It's a beautiful thing. Sound is perfectly balanced with minimal hissing (which was a problem for me using other DACs on these sensitive monitors). I was struggling until I got these, now I don't care if a phone has a headphone jack or not.
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This was a SOLID buy, IMO. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078H4YD2L/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I just got mine today. However, I can't figure out how to just use it as a USB DAC. The input is just using bluetooth from my Note. What am I missing?
My dragonfly red and note 10+
I will be adding the usb audio player pro. Any other advice? I will be getting my 1MORE triple driver earbuds tomorrow. Have the beats solo3 (did I get that right? They wired earbuds for android...) Cant wait to see how this works...I like high quality sound, you could say I am a beginner audiophile...
Ps my signature is old old old, you can tell how long it's been since I had time to post here at xda...!)
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I've tried FLAC and DSD music on my UK M9. My preferred headphones are the Sony MDR1RBT but using them as wired headphones. The head amp is much better than the Note 4 and even over BT the music sounds "analogue".
The quality of reproduction is superb.
What do you guys think?
Try to properly set Neutron.. and nothing will excel your smartphone sound..
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.neutroncode.mpeval
Try a Dolby atmos video on YouTube through the speakers... Mind blowing
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Try to properly set Neutron.. and nothing will excel your smartphone sound..
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.neutroncode.mpeval
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DSD is better than CD quality. The quality of the source is important as is decoding.
Is Dolby an option for audio through Bluetooth?
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Yes, I downgraded.
Nope..
davidtm0 said:
Is Dolby an option for audio through Bluetooth?
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Yes, I downgraded.
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I think the BT must be a new standard as seems as good as aptx.
jah said:
I've tried FLAC and DSD music on my UK M9. My preferred headphones are the Sony MDR1RBT but using them as wired headphones. The head amp is much better than the Note 4 and even over BT the music sounds "analogue".
The quality of reproduction is superb.
What do you guys think?
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Do you have a N4 snapdragon or Exynos?
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vegetaleb said:
Do you have a N4 snapdragon or Exynos?
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I have a Note 4 using Snapdragon and Note Edge with Exynos. I haven't compared with the Edge but from memory the head amp on the M9 seems better.
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I have a Note 4 using Snapdragon and Note Edge with Exynos. I haven't compared with the Edge but from memory the head amp on the M9 seems better.
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From what I understood on Head-Fi about earphones audio quality:
N4 Snapdragon < M8/M9 < N4 Exynos
Exynos has a pretty good Wolfson DAC
vegetaleb said:
From what I understood on Head-Fi about earphones audio quality:
N4 Snapdragon < M8/M9 < N4 Exynos
Exynos has a pretty good Wolfson DAC
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You can by an external DAC for £25 which gets close to Wolfson. The Samsung head amp is not as good as the one in the M9. Don't know how Dolby compares to Wolfson. I'll need to do some extended comparison listening. But the M9 sounds better to me than the M8.
I can second that. Switched from M8 to M9 and the amp is much better with a sound much louder and more true to a real music experience (instruments sound precise, lots of great mediums and bass). You can tweak the boomsound for different types of headphones as well.
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I can second that. Switched from M8 to M9 and the amp is much better with a sound much louder and more true to a real music experience (instruments sound precise, lots of great mediums and bass). You can tweak the boomsound for different types of headphones as well.
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The M9 is also subjectively better than the M8 in some areas. M8 beats it slightly in Distortion and noise but the M9 sounds better, why?
Most important to me is the incredibly low stereo crosstalk, which is the lowest I've seen on a mobile phone, even lower than the Wolfson. IIRC, the Wolfson gets a respectable but not quite as good ~-85 or so.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_m9-review-1230p7.php
I noticed a little sound distortion on YouTube using external boomsound speakers. After update to 1.32.401.15 become better, but distortion definitely still persist. Has anyone noticed it?
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The M9 is also subjectively better than the M8 in some areas. M8 beats it slightly in Distortion and noise but the M9 sounds better, why?
Most important to me is the incredibly low stereo crosstalk, which is the lowest I've seen on a mobile phone, even lower than the Wolfson. IIRC, the Wolfson gets a respectable but not quite as good ~-85 or so.
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I was kind of surprised to see this, really. The DAC is on the Snapdragon 810 in this case right? I don't suppose anyone happens to know which one it is?
Could it be that HTC use their own DAC? Or is it built into the SoC?
Which BOOMSOUND setting do you guys prefer when using earbuds/headphones?
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Try to properly set Neutron.. and nothing will excel your smartphone sound..
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.neutroncode.mpeval
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Poweramp is better
If you buy Neutron and set it right, you will switch the BoomSound off - with your earbuds/headset.. no kidding..
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If you buy Neutron and set it right, you will switch the BoomSound off - with your earbuds/headset.. no kidding..
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Hell, I'll give it a shot. Thanks!
Also, if you could, please put together a guide for how you think this phone can maximize the utility of Neutron, with all the settings that you find effective.
Give this a blast through the speakers in theater mode...
Dolby Atmos Amaze Theatrical Sound System Trailer HD-Enhanced: https://youtu.be/TlSLbfhVod8
Hi guys, just want to know how is the sound quality in the NON QUAD DAC version. Is it good enough? Maybe like the HTC 10, Axon 7 or Galaxy S7 sound quality? I know it must be worse than the QUAD DAC version, but how much worse? Is it still worth it or if i'm looking for a good sound smartphone i should look for another one? Where i live the version being sold is the 32GB H870.
Same as like LG G4. Over compressed weak output.
My only hope:Root-custom kernel.soundmode (Imperium G4 rom included)
kabirjedi said:
Same as like LG G4. Over compressed weak output.
My only hope:Root-custom kernel.soundmode (Imperium G4 rom included)
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It's that bad? It doesn't has a more simple DAC? It's using the Qualcomm one?
Mate! The HTC 10 sound quality is worlds apart from this phone. I have the g6 and am returning it due to the weak audio output. Don't know why LG gave us Europe nothing. Oh well.
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godofpornings said:
Mate! The HTC 10 sound quality is worlds apart from this phone. I have the g6 and am returning it due to the weak audio output. Don't know why LG gave us Europe nothing. Oh well.
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That's sad to hear. I'm not going to buy it then.
I think it sounds pretty good.
General consensus is that it sounds just a bit worse than the V20's Quad DAC and better than Galaxy S7, close to HTC M10's quality. Most users and reviewers are impressed.
I believe it does have a DAC. At least i've read that somewhere but i'm not 100% sure.
Offcorse it all depends on headphones. If you have cheap, ****ty headphones no amount of DAC can help you.
WstrKuNoužč said:
I think it sounds pretty great.
General consensus is that it sounds just a bit worse than the V20's Quad DAC and better than Galaxy S7, very close to HTC M10's quality. Most users and reviewers are impressed.
I believe it does have a DAC. At least i've read that somewhere but i'm not 100% sure.
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Its not anywhere near HTC 10 audio quality.
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Its not anywhere near HTC 10 audio quality.
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I don't own HTC 10 so i can't know that BUT i did see a lot of ppl on forums saying and agreeing it's pretty close to it quality wise.
WstrKuNoužč said:
I don't own HTC 10 so i can't know that BUT i did see a lot of ppl on forums saying and agreeing it's pretty close to it quality wise.
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No no no. The HTC 10 has a built in DAC and a amp which really makes the music stand out compared to any other phone I have ever owned. Too bad I sold it after a year and upgraded to the g6.
The g6 is a amazing phone only let down by the audio output. If they put the quad DAC in all units then that would of made this phone godly.
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No no no. The HTC 10 has a built in DAC and a amp which really makes the music stand out compared to any other phone I have ever owned. Too bad I sold it after a year and upgraded to the g6.
The g6 is a amazing phone only let down by the audio output. If they put the quad DAC in all units then that would of made this phone godly.
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As i said i think it does have DAC. It is true that the output volume is not as high as M10's BUT that also depends on headphones.
If you got a pair of good headphones it's gonna sound great and loud. The headphones that come with G6 are pretty crappy tho...
All-in-all M10 is an audiophile phone so it's probably designed for high and low quality headphones meaning even crappy headphones sound okay-ish or at least a lot better than on other "normal" phones.
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As i said i think it does have DAC. It is true that the output volume is not as high as M10's BUT that also depends on headphones.
If you got a pair of good headphones it's gonna sound great and loud. The headphones that come with G6 are pretty crappy tho...
All-in-all M10 is an audiophile phone so it's probably designed for high and low quality headphones meaning even crappy headphones sound okay-ish or at least a lot better than on other "normal" phones.
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Yeah that's true. I'm using the hi Res headfones I got from the HTC 10. The g6 has no DAC. The sound quality is very poor for a flagship phone for £600 I must say. But each to there own.
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I use the free vlc player and the 10 level equalizer along with my library of flac music. I run it onto my fender audio system (jetta) via Bluetooth and the sound is incredible. Deep bass, great mids and vocals. The sound with the headphone jack into the aux port isn't noticably better. I highly recommend vlc's free player, I had no idea that it would sound so good. Just play around with each equalizer level till your music sounds the way you want it to. Make sure you start with the levels flat, then go from there. I also put my music on a 128gb Samsung microsdxc card which I purchased on Amazon for only 30.99 I also highly recommend this card. Not as fast as more expensive cards but sound quality can't be beat. Model MB-MP128D. Peace..
Sound is OK it's not bad. But compared to my V10 the sound pales. Not as clean output or wide/deep sound signature.
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LOL. Every digital device that outputs sound has to have a DAC (Digital to Analog Converter), it just converts those 1 and 0 binary codes to electric signal. It's just the quality differs due to price. Some DACs have enough power on their own to drive small headphones, what sets "audiophile" smartphones apart is the addition of an Amp, it takes the electric signal from DAC and amplifies it to drive more power to large headphones with high impedance.
Is there any point in keeping my g5 for its b&o dac or not I have a s8 now well law has had it 6months
Can I use Google headphone adapter from Pixel 2 on my LG G6? Dac and Amp inside Google's headphone adapter is pretty good and powerful, same as Iphone 7 headphone adapter. I bought G6 few days ago (version without Quad DAC) and I think this should be one of possible alternatives for great sounding headphones quality.
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Can I use Google headphone adapter from Pixel 2 on my LG G6? Dac and Amp inside Google's headphone adapter is pretty good and powerful, same as Iphone 7 headphone adapter. I bought G6 few days ago (version without Quad DAC) and I think this should be one of possible alternatives for great sounding headphones quality.
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Yes,
I use the adapter from an Essential PH-1
Normal one doesn't sound very good but with quad-DAC it is outstanding IMO.
quadacless g6 sound big nothing....
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Yes,
I use the adapter from an Essential PH-1
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How is it compared to Google's one? I know adapter from Google is sounding 99% same as one from Iphone. I haven't tried Google one yet, but one from Iphone is very powerfull and have wide sound stage. I don't know where tu buy it btw..
Hi
I'm looking at options to get better sound on my S8. Does anyone know if the HTC U11 3.5mm adaptor with the built in DAC will be compatible with the S8 and if it will improve audio listening through spotify?
Has anyone tried this?
The adaptor is only £10 to buy so could be a cheap way to get better audio.
I'm not interested in rooting as I find samsung pay and secure folder useful so Viper isn't an option for me.
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Hi
I'm looking at options to get better sound on my S8. Does anyone know if the HTC U11 3.5mm adaptor with the built in DAC will be compatible with the S8 and if it will improve audio listening through spotify?
Has anyone tried this?
The adaptor is only £10 to buy so could be a cheap way to get better audio.
I'm not interested in rooting as I find samsung pay and secure folder useful so Viper isn't an option for me.
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Read post #7
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/help/usb-audio-samsung-s8-usb-c-to-3-5mm-t3631827
I currently use a Fiio E11 headphone amp. Its a little bit of bulk but the sound quality is night and day different. I am in the market for a new one soon as this thing is a good few years old and taken a beating, so I don't know if there is something better / smaller out now, but as and when I start looking I will update with any cool options I find
Funny, only reason I didn't switch from HTC 10 to U11 (and am considering S8) is the lack of normal headphone jack and that freaking dongle, lol
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Just did a side by side comparison of S8 and HTC 10, on the same source, using the same Neutron player with the same settings (after calibrating S8 to my ears). Sad story - S8 is noticeably worse...
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Just did a side by side comparison of S8 and HTC 10, on the same source, using the same Neutron player with the same settings (after calibrating S8 to my ears). Sad story - S8 is noticeably worse...
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What are you using earphones or headphones? S8 like the U11 + adapter can't drive big headphones big the S8 will drive a pair of KZ earphones like a charm
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What are you using earphones or headphones? S8 like the U11 + adapter can't drive big headphones big the S8 will drive a pair of KZ earphones like a charm
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Sony in ear headphones (similar to Sony MDR-XB90EX )
I just wish I could get my FiiO Q1 to work with my S8. I've tried the included USB C to USB adaptor that came with the phone, an aftermarket one, and a USB C to micro USB and none of them have worked. I might have to try this dongle.
Hello,
I find headphones dongle with my earphones quite lacking quality/soundstage, but searching through forums I stumbled upon this: Viper detects our essential dongle as a speaker. Was it fixed, or do you have any suggestions how to improve sound quality?
I'm using AuriSonics ASG 1Plus, which are an excellent IEM's, with low Impedence:
(11 ohm +/ 10% @ 1kHz16 ; Sensitivity: [email protected]).
So there should be no problem powering 'em and dishing as good sound performance as possible.
I know essential uses Cirrus DAC (which is average, but I'm not really buying any high-quality USB-c DAC or portable AMP).
I come from Pixel XL, which had dedicated 3.5mm jack and SD DAC, it sounded okay and WAY better than essential.
Some EQ tweaks can elevate a bit of problems, but I'm looking for a more all-around solution (whether it's fixed viper(drivers/libraries/etc.)(( or something else)).
Thanks!
Bump.
Tautvydas said:
Hello,
I find headphones dongle with my earphones quite lacking quality/soundstage, but searching through forums I stumbled upon this: Viper detects our essential dongle as a speaker. Was it fixed, or do you have any suggestions how to improve sound quality?
I'm using AuriSonics ASG 1Plus, which are an excellent IEM's, with low Impedence:
(11 ohm +/ 10% @ 1kHz16 ; Sensitivity: [email protected]).
So there should be no problem powering 'em and dishing as good sound performance as possible.
I know essential uses Cirrus DAC (which is average, but I'm not really buying any high-quality USB-c DAC or portable AMP).
I come from Pixel XL, which had dedicated 3.5mm jack and SD DAC, it sounded okay and WAY better than essential.
Some EQ tweaks can elevate a bit of problems, but I'm looking for a more all-around solution (whether it's fixed viper(drivers/libraries/etc.)(( or something else)).
Thanks!
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How about this DAC?
https://www.zorloo.com/zuperdac-s
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/zuperdac-s-zuper-charge-your-music#/
I bought it when it was pre-release for quite a bit less.
Much better than the included dongle that comes with the phone.
tech_head said:
How about this DAC?
https://www.zorloo.com/zuperdac-s
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/zuperdac-s-zuper-charge-your-music#/
I bought it when it was pre-release for quite a bit less.
Much better than the included dongle that comes with the phone.
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To be honest, I'm not up for buying any DAC's, but this one got me quite interested since it's for pc as well.
How is it?
Thanks!
Tautvydas said:
To be honest, I'm not up for buying any DAC's, but this one got me quite interested since it's for pc as well.
How is it?
Thanks!
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Interested in knowing as well. After my experience with the Aero Indiegogo, I have a pretty bad taste for Zorloo.
stompysan said:
Interested in knowing as well. After my experience with the Aero Indiegogo, I have a pretty bad taste for Zorloo.
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I bought the first headphone Z:ero and got them on time.
They worked great.
I bought the DAC while still on pre-order and received it a while ago.
For a small DAC the quality is really good.
The volume buttons make it very usable since you can set the input to the DAC from the phone at an optimal level then use the volume buttons on the DAC for the input of the car stereo, headphones, etc.
I'm quite happy and it's much better than the little dongle that comes with the phone.
Is it Focusrite or Apogee? No, but it's not $2K either.
I found the same issue. I don't think it is the DAC, but instead the native Android USB/DAC driver.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/essential-phone/themes/finding-music-player-essential-phones-t3710793
The problem is that this won't work for streaming applications. But I listen to FLAC / hi-bit MP3 so it solved the issue for me.
TimboC2000 said:
I found the same issue. I don't think it is the DAC, but instead the native Android USB/DAC driver.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/essential-phone/themes/finding-music-player-essential-phones-t3710793
The problem is that this won't work for streaming applications. But I listen to FLAC / hi-bit MP3 so it solved the issue for me.
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Thanks! Great thread you've created, really explains it.
Which app would you prefer, Neutron or Onkyo? You explained about Onkyo, but it's almost 10 euros for me, Neutron is a bit cheaper and I was thinking for quite some time to buy it. Had it on my old Blackberry Z10, it was native to BB OS.
Right now I'm using foobar, since I'm using it on pc, where I think it's the best music player, but when it comes to Android, you live you learn hehe.
Tautvydas said:
Thanks! Great thread you've created, really explains it.
Which app would you prefer, Neutron or Onkyo? You explained about Onkyo, but it's almost 10 euros for me, Neutron is a bit cheaper and I was thinking for quite some time to buy it. Had it on my old Blackberry Z10, it was native to BB OS.
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Unfortunately, I only have experience with Onkyo and Hiby. The Onkyo is pretty well developed and something I use fairly regularly so it was worth the money to me.
Hopefully somebody else can provide comments on Neutron for you.
Anyone tried the Viper audio add-on in Magisk? I purchased Bluetooth Skull Candy Ink'd for $20 and love the sound quality. Actually have the volume at 80% most of the time
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I just purchased a pixel audio adapter, as it measures well for its price ($9).
The market for high-end usbc adapters isn't quite there yet it seems, a traditional dac+amp setup is probably still better if you need more power.
If you're using IEMs though, powerful amps tend to have a higher noise floor.
Just tested Neutron player, it's excellent.
Huge increase in soundstage, overall processing quality, sounds great.
Magic is done under Audio Hardware options, selecting 'Direct USB Driver' to allow direct access to the USB device.
Duo8 said:
I just purchased a pixel audio adapter, as it measures well for its price ($9).
The market for high-end usbc adapters isn't quite there yet it seems, a traditional dac+amp setup is probably still better if you need more power.
If you're using IEMs though, powerful amps tend to have a higher noise floor.
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I have that adapter and the Essential adapter. Using Onkyo HF application it was able to use multiple bit rates with the Essential adapter, but the Google adapter only works at 48kHz.
I have the Sabaj Da3 as well. It works great with the Onkyo HF app, it supports multiple sample rates and upconverts to DSD512 as well. Issues are: 1. It's huge. 2: It burns significant battery, especially if upconverting. 3. When I bought it was $90, right now it is $119 on Amazon - so it's expensive!
Honestly, for non-critical on the go listening the Essential adapter works really well once you bypass the Android USB driver.
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Tautvydas said:
Just tested Neutron player, it's excellent.
Huge increase in soundstage, overall processing quality, sounds great.
Magic is done under Audio Hardware options, selecting 'Direct USB Driver' to allow direct access to the USB device.
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Glad it fixed your issues!
TimboC2000 said:
Unfortunately, I only have experience with Onkyo and Hiby. The Onkyo is pretty well developed and something I use fairly regularly so it was worth the money to me.
Hopefully somebody else can provide comments on Neutron for you.
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Thank you for your original thread which pointed me to these apps..
1. I tried Hiby, and did like its music quality, but its very rough for me.. I could not make/receive voice calls when it locks my headphones.. Also it does not show any info on the actual bitrates its using..
2. I am trying out Neutron trial version, which is a 5 day limited use full feature version. It too seems to be limiting the output to 48kHz. Yet to try Onkyo.
mvadu said:
Thank you for your original thread which pointed me to these apps..
1. I tried Hiby, and did like its music quality, but its very rough for me.. I could not make/receive voice calls when it locks my headphones.. Also it does not show any info on the actual bitrates its using..
2. I am trying out Neutron trial version, which is a 5 day limited use full feature version. It too seems to be limiting the output to 48kHz. Yet to try Onkyo.
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USB Audio Player Pro also seems well regarded and developed. I believe Hiby is a single developer and is much more of a work in progress.
Just found the perfect setup for my IEM's.
Ainur Sauron Magisk module and Neutron player's "direct USB support" option. Sounds amazing now!
Had quite similar experience in the ol' days with Colorfly C3 and Klipsch iem's (can't remember the model).
Or just that I'm easily impressed
Tried viper, just really dislike its signature sound. Clarity, bass, convolver turned on and tuned a bit, still, not to my ears.
Hello everybody.
I would like to buy an adapter from usb-c to 3.5mm earphone plug. I see it is a little bit more complicated than I thought- There are adapters with DAC chip,without a chip,others won't fit Samsung,etc.
I just want an adapter because of the lack of 3.5mm socket and keep listening music like I did so far. I would like to have the option to use this plug with none-Samsung phones ,too.
What kind of adapter and brands do you recommend to buy ?
Thanks in advance,
Arye
Do a search, this has been discussed since the firsts days of the note 10 forum
I did a search.Did not find anything.
I bought the Samsung adaptor, which seems to work well.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07VC4QKNZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have a very good experience with iBasso DC02
https://www.amazon.de/iBasso-DC02-Kabel-Kopfh%C3%B6rer-Anschluss/dp/B07WDLJP1Y/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=ibasso&qid=1589538908&sr=8-6
I use it with my Etymotic HF5 and Beyerdynamic DT880 and the sound is superb - by far better then what DT880 can deliver.
My music source is mostly Tidal MQA via USB Audio Player PRO.
Excellent price to performance ratio!
Just an hour ago, I received an adapter.
https://aliexpress.ru/item/4000602754936.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.471d33edcTsq2f
Good quality and stunning price. Checked on the car radio
bruno.trudo said:
I have a very good experience with iBasso DC02
https://www.amazon.de/iBasso-DC02-K...child=1&keywords=ibasso&qid=1589538908&sr=8-6
I use it with my Etymotic HF5 and Beyerdynamic DT880 and the sound is superb - by far better then what DT880 can deliver.
My music source is mostly Tidal MQA via USB Audio Player PRO.
Excellent price to performance ratio!
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I use this too with USB audio player pro. Much better than samsung adapter.
I bought this one and it works great: https://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-Type-C...var=513188154222&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
abramadhi said:
I use this too with USB audio player pro. Much better than samsung adapter.
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I'm not surprised, given that it's 10x the price of the Samsung one!
Samsung's is flimsy... it doesn't inspire longevity confidence.
The great Samsung flagship missing 3.5 mm jack fubar continues... lame.
I advise you to acquire an adapter that allows you to charge the phone at the same time.
So an adapter with double inlet, USB-C for charging and 3.5mm Audio
Like this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FR1GB4J/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A10QS29P19KJR4&psc=1
Tekflow said:
I advise you to acquire an adapter that allows you to charge the phone at the same time.
So an adapter with double inlet, USB-C for charging and 3.5mm Audio
Like this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FR1GB4J/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A10QS29P19KJR4&psc=1
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It says it's not compatible with the Note 10, S10 etc.
Yes, you're right. I didn't notice that, even though I don't understand how it is not compatible.
I use Wordima USB-C to 3.5mm Charger Adapter (https://www.amazon.com/WORDIMA-Headphone-Charger-Adapter-Compatible/dp/B07TBKG7N4), currently unavailable.
But, here are 2 other devices, compatible with the Note 10::
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07Y87QXTQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A21TE5CLHZDYA7&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08279WBMM/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3KOFPH6N9TJWO&psc=1
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Yes, you're right. I didn't notice that, even though I don't understand how it is not compatible.
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Presumably because it does not incorporate a DAC. The only adaptors that work with the Note 10+ are those with a DAC in them.
Tekflow said:
I advise you to acquire an adapter that allows you to charge the phone at the same time.
So an adapter with double inlet, USB-C for charging and 3.5mm Audio
Like this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FR1GB4J/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A10QS29P19KJR4&psc=1
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Philip said:
Presumably because it does not incorporate a DAC. The only adaptors that work with the Note 10+ are those with a DAC in them.
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Yeah it's tricky. Worse no clue how good that one is.
It was much better with a known internal phone DAC and the 3.5 mm jack. The Note 4 was a better audio platform. WTF?
Samsung really dropped the ball Special Olympics style...
Whatever the dongle DAC is I doubt it's a 32 bit Burr-Brown. Ha!
The warning:
https://www.techarp.com/mobile/samsung-galaxy-note-10-dac/
Buyer's guide:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/best-usb-c-headphone-adapters/?amp