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LG G4 AT&T vs. H810 (International)

I own both phones. The AT&T 810 and the international 815. To my surprise every speed test that I have done the AT&T version is faster than the international 815. Can’t explain it I would assume that each phone had the same hardware. My 815 and my 810 running on the same LTE band and I have tried different speed tests in different parts of the city even when the LTE band changed. For data download the AT&T is much faster. Again I have tested both phones side-by-side over and over and I would have assumed the 815 would’ve been the same or a little quicker. Even when I ran the quadrant speed test the AT&T beat my international version, not by that much but it still was faster poster just.
On top of this, my wife has a S6 edge and it beats my 815 in all the speed tests, it’s comparable to my 810.

alwayslearning said:
I own both phones. The AT&T 810 and the international 815. To my surprise every speed test that I have done the AT&T version is faster than the international 815. Can’t explain it I would assume that each phone had the same hardware. My 815 and my 810 running on the same LTE band and I have tried different speed tests in different parts of the city even when the LTE band changed. For data download the AT&T is much faster. Again I have tested both phones side-by-side over and over and I would have assumed the 815 would’ve been the same or a little quicker. Even when I ran the quadrant speed test the AT&T beat my international version, not by that much but it still was faster poster just.
On top of this, my wife has a S6 edge and it beats my 815 in all the speed tests, it’s comparable to my 810.
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Just went and looked at it for at&t but decided to wait until its at the very least rooted. My g3 is working just fine for now .
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if both are tested on att, maybe they prioritize att variants over intl even for their subscribers...? just a thought. I'm leaving att as soon as i decide my next phone, likely the g4, but getting away from att is part of that. they have sheisty ploys at every turn.

What kind of speed difference are we talking? Give us some rough numbers, thanks.

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What kind of speed difference are we talking? Give us some rough numbers, thanks.
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I have attached some pictures of two different tests. On the 810 you can ignore the 175 because that was accidentally on Wi-Fi.
A couple of things I have noticed in the carousel of homepages on the 815 I cannot scroll around and around you will come to the end of your homepages on the left or the right. On the AT&T 810 it will carousel around.
The AT&T screen has a yellow to it were my 815 is very white to the point I think something’s wrong with the 810 (AT&T). That I will be returning the phone for screen without the yellow hue to it.

That's a cool observation. On a similar note, I found my G4 to be faster than my AT&T G3 by about 3mbps download.
Sent from my LG-H815

Do you have the 815 directly on AT&T service or through one of their MVNOs like Straight Talk or Cricket?

QuantifyThis said:
Do you have the 815 directly on AT&T service or through one of their MVNOs like Straight Talk or Cricket?
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both phones are on AT&T

Interesting. Must be some setting difference between the two. Wonder if you could use the 277634#*# dialer code to get into the settings and look for differences?

I have an 815 intl version on ATT in So. cal. , and trying Ookla speedtest all over town, I've yet to hit even 10mbps download, and about the same for upload. Is there a setting i don't have enabled? I'm using the nano-SIM from my Nexus 6 with an adapter to make it fit in the G4...but that can't be it, right?

montevulture said:
I have an 815 intl version on ATT in So. cal. , and trying Ookla speedtest all over town, I've yet to hit even 10mbps download, and about the same for upload. Is there a setting i don't have enabled? I'm using the nano-SIM from my Nexus 6 with an adapter to make it fit in the G4...but that can't be it, right?
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Not sure what it is because I was able to get 20Mbps down/ 4 up on ATT in Alhambra a few minutes ago on my 810.

Jay784 said:
Not sure what it is because I was able to get 20Mbps down/ 4 up on ATT in Alhambra a few minutes ago on my 810.
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Yep, that's a good download speed, and likely because you have the actual ATT version. I have the unlocked intl 815 version, which supports all the ATT LTE bands, but doesnt seem to be using them. I may try getting a new sim tomorrow, instead of using my old nexus 6 sim.
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Not sure what it is because I was able to get 20Mbps down/ 4 up on ATT in Alhambra a few minutes ago on my 810.
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Also, were you on wifi? Those two numbers sound like wifi ratios. LTE uploads are usually closer to the dl speeds than that, but not always.

montevulture said:
Also, were you on wifi? Those two numbers sound like wifi ratios. LTE uploads are usually closer to the dl speeds than that, but not always.
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made sure wifi was turned off. With wifi, I get 60 down and 5 up at home. Hope that new sim card works out for you. :good:

I am surprised this is not getting more attention. Does someone with a TMobile version or H815T have ATT and can test their speeds, or an ATT phone on Tmobile network?

throwaway11111 said:
I am surprised this is not getting more attention. Does someone with a TMobile version or H815T have ATT and can test their speeds, or an ATT phone on Tmobile network?
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I have the 815T using cricket (att) network. I know not the same, but for what it's worth i max out the lte 8mpbs speed all the time.

So that's really interesting. I was about to pull the trigger on an international model. Does anyone have an ATT model or international model on TMobile network and can post their speed results?

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I have an 815 intl version on ATT in So. cal. , and trying Ookla speedtest all over town, I've yet to hit even 10mbps download, and about the same for upload. Is there a setting i don't have enabled? I'm using the nano-SIM from my Nexus 6 with an adapter to make it fit in the G4...but that can't be it, right?
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when I got my 815 i had to go into settings>wireless networks>more>moble networks>network mode and change it to GMS/WCDMA/LTE in order for LTE to work on ATT. By defult it is turned off for LTE

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Yep, that's a good download speed, and likely because you have the actual ATT version. I have the unlocked intl 815 version, which supports all the ATT LTE bands, but doesnt seem to be using them. I may try getting a new sim tomorrow, instead of using my old nexus 6 sim.
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Also, were you on wifi? Those two numbers sound like wifi ratios. LTE uploads are usually closer to the dl speeds than that, but not always.
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I am in OC,CA on ATT and I normally get 22+m down and 10+ up. This is with my 815
at home on WiFi I get 175+ down and 30 up

alwayslearning said:
when I got my 815 i had to go into settings>wireless networks>more>moble networks>network mode and change it to GMS/WCDMA/LTE in order for LTE to work on ATT. By defult it is turned off for LTE
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Yep, I'd already checked that too. Going to try getting the new SIM today to see if that works. Tried a few more speed tests here in San Diego yesterday, still nothing above 10mbps.

alwayslearning said:
I have attached some pictures of two different tests. On the 810 you can ignore the 175 because that was accidentally on Wi-Fi.
A couple of things I have noticed in the carousel of homepages on the 815 I cannot scroll around and around you will come to the end of your homepages on the left or the right. On the AT&T 810 it will carousel around.
The AT&T screen has a yellow to it were my 815 is very white to the point I think something’s wrong with the 810 (AT&T). That I will be returning the phone for screen without the yellow hue to it.
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The 810 shows 4G LTE icon. The 815 only shows 4G.
How are you verifying the 815 is actually getting LTE? As the images don't support.

Getting Really Slow Load Speeds?

Getting really slow page load with N6P.
Am on TMO network with <1 week old N6P.
Did some speedtest around town & it's been all over the place with speeds.
With my prior OnePlus One, the load speeds were commendable & definitely the coverage good too considering it was missing a few bars on the signal strength graph.
But voice isn't an issue with the N6P, it's the page load & speedtest.
I mean I am getting <1MPS on the OOKLA app.
Thoughts?

Did you enable Enhanced LTE ?

chichu_9 said:
Did you enable Enhanced LTE ?
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Yes. Is that an issue?

perveeus said:
Yes. Is that an issue?
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No that should not be an issue, It should be on.

Hmmm... Back to the drawing board.

AT&T LTE Speed

After activating my 6p on AT&T I noticed slow LTE speeds compared to my Nexus 5 (not just speed tests, actual browsing/usage). Contacted AT&T support to verify IMEI and SIM information and they did some sort of SIM refresh on their end. After that I was getting around 70-80mbps speed tests for a few days but now the speeds have dropped back down to 5-10mbs (if that).
I've tried switching to PHONE and PTA APN's and no difference is observed. I am not on an unlimited plan so no throttling should be taking place.
My friend who is also using a 6p on AT&T is seeing the exact same behavior and had the exact same results after contacting support (fast speeds after refresh but slows down after a few days).
Has anyone else been experiencing this issue with AT&T or any other carriers? I'm not sure if this is a radio firmware problem worth reporting to Google or something on AT&T's side.

I'm having this same problem, my s4 was at least double the LTE speed of my 6P, I've been searching for a fix but this thread is the only one I've found so far, I did see VZW post where you can dial a certain number and select bands, I'm hoping someone can share a fix life that for us on AT&T

same here ... very slow compared to all the other phones I have that are AT&T branded and much slower compared to Nexus 5 and OPO. Also every time I call somebody, phone drops down to "H" and then connects the call. No calls over LTE.

I'm having the same issue and lately I keep loosing my lte and seeing only the H for 4g

AndreaCristiano said:
I'm having the same issue and lately I keep loosing my lte and seeing only the H for 4g
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I bet 6.0.1 is at fault. Did you recently update OTA?

sixcoronas said:
I bet 6.0.1 is at fault. Did you recently update OTA?
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yeah but i was having issues before the update

I wonder if it's something with AT&T network and this phone. I'll have full bars (LTE) and no service quiet often. I live in south florida, so we generally have great reception for every carrier.

The issue started for me as soon as I upgraded. I tried the older radio as well. I went back to Chroma 6.0 and all is well. I did star the issue in the tracker.

Well I just got off with att and they reset my connection to the network and so far so good. Lte all around. I will watch the next few days and let you all know

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I bet 6.0.1 is at fault. Did you recently update OTA?
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yeah but i was having issues before the update
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I have actually gotten the same problem, after updating my 6p to 6.0.1, I have lost my LTE and just stayed at H.
I haven't done nothing other than updating, I really hope this gets fixed soon, the speeds arent that bad but I am used to having LTE all around

Well I called att this am at around 8am and tight now at 6pm its been solid. They made me shut off my phone and basically set up my phone network wise as a new phone and boom LTE everywhere

Happening again. I reset network settings and boom all is well for two days

I found a recent post on reddit where a user was having issues with the phone connecting/losing LTE. After troubleshooting with AT&T support they indicated the "APN type" setting was missing an entry and in the improper order.
Changing to the proper order fixed his and others LTE issues and so far it appears that it has fixed my speed issues as well.
The fix applies to both nextgenphone and phone APN's.
Default APN Type on 6p = default,mms,supl,fota,hipri
Correct APN Type from AT&T support = default,admin,fota,mms,supl,hipri
Hopefully this helps.

G935FD duos (dual SIM) - no LTE on T-Mobile in the US

My S7 Edge G935FD (dual SIM international version) gets only "4G" on T-Mobile in the San Francisco Bay Area, and never "LTE". Is this a "4G vs. LTE" naming issue, or does it lack the band T-Mobile requires for LTE? It also gets "H+" often, in the same location that my old S5 had full bars LTE.
Speed tests with the SpeedSpot app range from 17Mbps to 33Mbps down, and 3.75 to 7.5Mbps up on "4G", but only 5Mbps down and 1Mbps up in H+ areas.
I bought it from tropical_mobile on eBay.

I think 4g and lte are the same..

kvsandeepreddy said:
I think 4g and lte are the same..
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Just naming issue with international version.

@kvsandeepreddy is right.
LTE means LongTermEvolution which is the so called 4th generation of Mobile Networks. So LTE is 4G
1G = Analog mobile Network, I think
2G = GSM and EDGE
3G = UMTS and HSDPA
4G = LTE

FD version is released for asian countries... back in india we use 4g instead of lte

Poorer connectivity on S7 than S5
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FD version is released for asian countries... back in india we use 4g instead of lte
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Well, that means that the S7 dual-SIM gets poorer reception than my old single-SIM S5:
In the same spot in the building (at my work desk), I'd get full LTE bars on the old S5, but only H or H+ at best on the new S7 Edge dual SIM. In practice this means ~6x slower downloads and ~7x slower uploads. Pretty ****ty.

dandv said:
Well, that means that the S7 dual-SIM gets poorer reception than the old S5:
In the same spot in the building (at my work desk), I'd get full LTE bars on the old S5, but only H or H+ at best on the new S7 Edge dual SIM. In practice this means ~6x slower downloads and ~7x slower uploads. Pretty ****ty.
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Phone being a dual sim doesnt usually affect the sig al strength.. maybe the inbuilt receiver in s7 edge is defective.. heard some other people complaining about the signal strength too

dandv said:
Well, that means that the S7 dual-SIM gets poorer reception than the old S5:
In the same spot in the building (at my work desk), I'd get full LTE bars on the old S5, but only H or H+ at best on the new S7 Edge dual SIM. In practice this means ~6x slower downloads and ~7x slower uploads. Pretty ****ty.
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No that's not what it means. The g935fd version is meant to be able to switch to any international firmware version. There are several different modems for each region. You are going to just have to flash different modems in Odin and see which one works best for your region. This does not trip knox or void warranty as long as you do it right because you are flashing official modems. As I said in the other thread you were in, do your research.

Can someone link me to the best modem to used on the dual sim model in the states?

Which modem did you end up using? I am also wondering which version is best in the US.

ChristopherXDA said:
Which modem did you end up using? I am also wondering which version is best in the US.
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Wondering if you ever solved this issue. I would like to also buy this version and use it on band 12 with TMO.

chatchatchat said:
Wondering if you ever solved this issue. I would like to also buy this version and use it on band 12 with TMO.
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I'm just using the UAE firmware that the duos came with. It's updated with the June security patch. Only issue I've had is slower than normal download and upload speeds on at&t. It's not that big of a deal, just annoying. I think it has more to do with atts provisioning on their network. I'll post a solution if I figure it out, whether it's a different csc, apn settings or some device setting on my account.

4G is called LTE in USA. If you are getting 4G. That means you are getting LTE.
Cheers.
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thunderroid said:
4G is called LTE in USA. If you are getting 4G. That means you are getting LTE.
Cheers.
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Yes, you are correct. However, I should have clarified that my statement is based on connection speed tests not on network symbols in notification bar. My slower speeds are in comparison to other 4g devices being tested in the same location on the same network.

ChristopherXDA said:
Yes, you are correct. However, I should have clarified that my statement is based on connection speed tests not on network symbols in notification bar. My slower speeds are in comparison to other 4g devices being tested in the same location on the same network.
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Yep. I can confirm the same thing. I have 2 s7 edges. One is a DUOS and the other is AT&T branded. Tested both repeatedly and found that the AT&T branded device is getting way faster speeds than the DUOS. In my particular area the AT&T phone was reaching up to 60 Mbps while the DUOS was only hitting 30-40 Mbps. Very curious on how to fix this since this phone has all the necessary bands to support LTE in the states.

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Yep. I can confirm the same thing. I have 2 s7 edges. One is a DUOS and the other is AT&T branded. Tested both repeatedly and found that the AT&T branded device is getting way faster speeds than the DUOS. In my particular area the AT&T phone was reaching up to 60 Mbps while the DUOS was only hitting 30-40 Mbps. Very curious on how to fix this since this phone has all the necessary bands to support LTE in the states.
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At least you're getting that. My speed tests are consistently in the .72 to 5 Mbps range on the DL and 1-7Mbps on the upload, which is basically about half to a third of what my other AT&T devices are getting in the same location at same time.

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At least you're getting that. My speed tests are consistently in the .72 to 5 Mbps range on the DL and 1-7Mbps on the upload, which is basically about half to a third of what my other AT&T devices are getting in the same location at same time.
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Wow your right that is abysmal. Have you tried installing LTE Discovery and comparing the two devices? Check to see if they are connecting to the same towers.

midnight101 said:
Yep. I can confirm the same thing. I have 2 s7 edges. One is a DUOS and the other is AT&T branded. Tested both repeatedly and found that the AT&T branded device is getting way faster speeds than the DUOS. In my particular area the AT&T phone was reaching up to 60 Mbps while the DUOS was only hitting 30-40 Mbps. Very curious on how to fix this since this phone has all the necessary bands to support LTE in the states.
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It's not just the bands. AT&T is known for prioritizing their branded phones vs. BYOD phones. It's done by EMEI ... they have a list of all their branded models in a DB and they get priority. TMO doesn't much care. I tested my Duos yesterday and TMO gave me 59.4/12.8 network transfer. It's as good as my 6P. My AT&T sim is in sim1 and is restricted to 2G which is fine since I need calls and texts only from it since it's a work #.
And it does support most of AT&T's bands except band30 which is really new. 4G everywhere else is LTE here as was said in other responses in this thread. It's most likely AT&T deprioritizing the phone as it's a BYOD.
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Wondering if you ever solved this issue. I would like to also buy this version and use it on band 12 with TMO.
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It doesn't have band 12 so I'd save your money. Band 12 is just the deeper penetration 700mhz anyway which around me (SF area) can't be found. My Nexus 6P which has band 12 never connects to anything but band 4 .. ever.

Same crap... If it bothers you flashes the csc

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It's not just the bands. AT&T is known for prioritizing their branded phones vs. BYOD phones. It's done by EMEI ... they have a list of all their branded models in a DB and they get priority. TMO doesn't much care. I tested my Duos yesterday and TMO gave me 59.4/12.8 network transfer. It's as good as my 6P. My AT&T sim is in sim1 and is restricted to 2G which is fine since I need calls and texts only from it since it's a work #.
And it does support most of AT&T's bands except band30 which is really new. 4G everywhere else is LTE here as was said in other responses in this thread. It's most likely AT&T deprioritizing the phone as it's a BYOD.
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It doesn't have band 12 so I'd save your money. Band 12 is just the deeper penetration 700mhz anyway which around me (SF area) can't be found. My Nexus 6P which has band 12 never connects to anything but band 4 .. ever.
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I noticed this as well with my 6p. Supposedly band 12 was to save us all but my phone prefers band 4. I only got a glimpse of band 12 the other day then the phone switch switched back to band 4 when I toggled wifi on and off.
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Verizon Signal Strength/reliability

Hey all,
I've seen a few posts regarding signal problems on TMO and Sprint, but not much on Verizon.
How is your guys' experience on VZW?

Works good for me on Verizon. I don't live in a big city, but I never lose service and I get over 100mbs dowload speeds in certain areas over LTE.

Been using mine on Verizon for a week now and no issues so far. It works everywhere any other device i have used works.

PH-1 reception in my house in mid-peninsula SF Bay Area is non-existent. Meanwhile the Galaxy 7, Galaxy 5, iPhone 5, and iPhone 7 all get decent enough signal here. No matter how good the phone otherwise, that's a deal killer.
Update: the phone continues to frustrate. Reception sucks even in the heart of towns here where other phones are just fine. Basically, the phone is useless except as a pretty iPod that takes cool 360 pictures. What a shame.

What's a good app to test download speeds?

I live in upstate NY. Literally in a gorge.i get the same or better service than my HTC 10 and the WiFi is way better. Don't need WiFi calling anymore.

I'm also in upstate NY. I get extremely fast speeds on wifi but lte seems pretty slow. What network settings are you all using??

mpetruzz said:
I'm also in upstate NY. I get extremely fast speeds on wifi but lte seems pretty slow. What network settings are you all using??
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Global, enhanced lte, nothing special

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Global, enhanced lte, nothing special
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I'm not seeing that setting. Can you take a screenshot??

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I'm not seeing that setting. Can you take a screenshot??
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Just took this. Remember, there isn't any carrier aggregation. That can make it worse.

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Just took this. Remember, there isn't any carrier aggregation. That can make it worse.
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Screwed up screenshots

Ref: Verizon
I'm getting LTE+ carrier aggregation in the Hickory, NC area. I've seen download speeds as high as 28 Mbps, although I've only been on Verizon 2 days now and I've only ran a few speed tests.
I recently ported my number to Verizon from T-Mobile because I was one of those who was experiencing connectivity issues with T-Mo. For me this phone works much better on Verizon than T-Mo. The phone I have now is a replacement. The first one constantly dropped cellular connections and with it I never saw LTE+ on T-Mo not even once. With the new replacement phone it showed up at times closer to Hickory but Verizon seems to have it everywhere around here.

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I'm getting LTE+ carrier aggregation in the Hickory, NC area. I've seen download speeds as high as 28 Mbps, although I've only been on Verizon 2 days now and I've only ran a few speed tests.
I recently ported my number to Verizon from T-Mobile because I was one of those who was experiencing connectivity issues with T-Mo. For me this phone works much better on Verizon than T-Mo. The phone I have now is a replacement. The first one constantly dropped cellular connections and with it I never saw LTE+ on T-Mo not even once. With the new replacement phone it showed up at times closer to Hickory but Verizon seems to have it everywhere around here.
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That's funny actually, right after I took that, I went to lte discovery app, and saw that I was on band 4 & 13 . It's not " supposed " to work...lol

I'm using Xfinity which is Verizon and works fine on the SF Bay Area but since I'm using Xfinity and not Verizon proper, I don't see the option for enhanced LTE...

I got this on Verizon on the way into work this morning.

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I got this on Verizon on the way into work this morning.
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That's good. We don't have those kind of speeds around here. 28-34 is normal for Verizon lte here.

My download speeds are only averaging 7 mbps on lte on Verizon in NY.
Which bands are you all using?? I left mine on the default and not sure if that'd make a difference.
I tried a few others with not much difference

This is my 3rd replacement. The first one didn't activate, the second overheated and now the 3rd seems to be working well. What I noticed on the 3rd one after reading the forums is the ceramic I'd alittle grippier than the last one which was smooth like glass. The 2nd one was smooth like glass. Before I did the replacement I also weighed it by hand because I read somewhere the new replacements have alittle more weight to it and it did. It was noticeable.
As far as signal. It seems to be on par with my m9. I was surprised I got 117mbps in my town which is in Shentel territory for Sprint but so far everything works great
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mpetruzz said:
My download speeds are only averaging 7 mbps on lte on Verizon in NY.
Which bands are you all using?? I left mine on the default and not sure if that'd make a difference.
I tried a few others with not much difference
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I bounce between band 13 and band 4 in cortland

Hit and Miss
Mine has been iffy since I "officially" added it to my Verizon account (I initially just pulled the SIM from my Pixel, and plopped it in my Essential - Worked like a champ, then I replaced my Pixel with my Essential with customer service, over the phone, and after reboot, it has been hit or miss (it was 3G from the time I hung up with Verizon, until I finished driving from Vegas to SLC). I messed with the carrier settings, and it was LTE+ for a day, then back to no signal the next morning.
Some days 3G is the best I can get, others LTE+ works fine, and some days, 1X or no signal. I've tried changing the settings from Global, to LTE, to LTE/WCDMA to what ever else looked okay). Today, it's been LTE+ most of the day.
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Hey all,
I've seen a few posts regarding signal problems on TMO and Sprint, but not much on Verizon.
How is your guys' experience on VZW?
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