Security Updates for the Lenovo Tab 4 10plus - Thinkpad Tablet General

I understand that the Tab 4 10 plus will probably never get Oreo. I am thinking of buying one and want to know if they are at least doing security updates. I don't really want to buy an unsupported tablet. Also is it compatible with T-Mobile? None of the advertising say specifically that it is. Some of the reviews say that it works fine. It seems to be missing a few of t-mobile lte bands. I don't know if that is a big deal.
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John

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CES is bringing some cool new phones!

With everything going on with DELL and our Venue Pro woes I cannot help looking at what CES is bringing to the table. Lots of new 4G devices and tablets.
Of course I haven't seen anything quite like the Venue Pro, but I am starting to think why deal with DELL and a phone from last year when new phones with faster processors and higher specs are coming soon.
Anyone thinking of returning their Venue in place of a newer device?
I returned mine. Couple of issues that we're deal breakers for me caused me to return the phone.
Yes CES is revealing some very sweet phones, although I haven't seen anything exciting on the WP7 front - especially relating to Verizon.
The (Verizon) Droid Bionic and the (At&t) Atrix are looking pretty tasty. Dual core processors, HD out the box and a mobile PC/MAC integrated platform. Pretty advanced although there is no physical keyboard...
Nothing for T-Mobile except for the Motorola CLIQ 2. :|
I will just wait for MWC.
Yeah I think MWC is the event to wait for. Gave up on the DVP myself and got a 16GB Omnia 7 which I'm very pleased with. It will keep me busy until the end of the year when some really good WP7 devices should be available.
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Yeah I think MWC is the event to wait for. Gave up on the DVP myself and got a 16GB Omnia 7 which I'm very pleased with. It will keep me busy until the end of the year when some really good WP7 devices should be available.
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The Omina 7 is a great device if you live in Europe. But I think all of the devices will see improvement with software updates this year.
Does the Omnia 7 have Tmo 3G for data? Thanks
personally only the atrix interests me the other phones are pretty much more of the same i'm a little saddened at the keyboardless/plastic/slate trend at ces
i'm a little more interested in filling the tablet/ereader slot in my egadget collection dvp covers the smartphone slot at least until the summer
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Does the Omnia 7 have Tmo 3G for data? Thanks
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Tmo US or EU? Here are the specs: http://www.omnia7.samsungmobile.com/
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Tmo US or EU? Here are the specs: http://www.omnia7.samsungmobile.com/
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If we're talking about North America, the answer is no. The best the Omnia 7 could ever do in Canada or the U.S. would be to use 2G (EDGE) on T-Mobile, AT&T, or Rogers. The 3G bands aren't compatible with any of our carriers.
Which is a crying shame, of course - if you can live without a hardware keyboard, it is a near-perfect form factor.
Yeah, sorry was asking about the US. Edge is really slow on Tmo US here. Are you using Edge in Canada? How is the speed? I prefer the Samsung phones over the Dell Venue, don't like the HD7 screen though.

GT-N5100 Note 8.0 3G

Does anyone know when the 3G version will be released? I have read in many reviews that battery life on the WiFi is not that impressive, do you think Samsung would ship the 3G version with a larger battery?
in Malaysia the Note 8 is launched with the 3G version already, on Friday.
all specs remain the same throughout
Shame it could have done with a bigger battery by all accounts. I'll still get one, (im)patiently waiting for a 3G version, any colour, any storage size in the UK.
I have been using Galaxy note 8 n5100 as my main phone since i bought it last april 13 here in the Philippines, the battery is pretty good it can last 10 to 12hour, with moderate calls and always connected data, autosync on moderate browsing and email with minimal gps use, the battery on this phone is way better than galaxy tab 7 plus which it replaced as my primary phone
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I have been using Galaxy note 8 n5100 as my main phone since i bought 7t past april 13 here in Philippines, the battery is pretty it can last 10 to 12hour, with moderate calls and always connected data, autosync on moderate browsing and email with minimal gps use, battery is way better than galaxy tab 7 plus which it replaced as my primary phone
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Thanks for your mini review! Waiting for it to launch in India.
How much did it cost you (in USD)? Are any freebies like PlayStore credit or Dropbox available as well?
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Thanks for your mini review! Waiting for it to launch in India.
How much did it cost you (in USD)? Are any freebies like PlayStore credit or Dropbox available as well?
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Around 530USD, yeah the samsung book cover is free, they also did a free phone promo, you get to take home the samsung phone you draw from lot, most guy went home with the cheapest samsung phone including myself
Drop box is installed, if thats what you mean
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Do anyone know the release date of the 3G model and the possible price on US, because I am planning to buy it?
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Do anyone know the release date of the 3G model and the possible price on US, because I am planning to buy it?
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Currently, Samsung does not seem to have any plan or intention to launch a phablet version of the device in the US. You'll likely either have to wait for them to come to their senses, or buy an international version.
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Currently, Samsung does not seem to have any plan or intention to launch a phablet version of the device in the US. You'll likely either have to wait for them to come to their senses, or buy an international version.
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I'm interested for the the international version.
Heard anything about that?
The 3G price would seem to be hovering around the $800 mark based on eBay listings for the GT-N5100, but it's availability still seems up in the air. Hopefully someone outside of the US can point you towards a reputable international seller with stock.
Wow. It will be so expensive.
Thanks for your help.
The 3G version retails around $580 in Asia. Prices will come down on eBay very soon.
I'm waiting for it in the US as well. There's a site called Negri Electronics located in Las Vegas, that has a pre order page for it, listed at $660 at the time of this post. From what I've heard, the international version should be released April 30, but I haven't found any confirmation. As far as releasing s US version, I'm sure they'll release an LTE version sooner or later for use with CDMA networks like Verizon and US Cellular, but if you plan on getting it going on T-Mobile (like me), it'll only run on their 1900mhz frequency, which allows phone calls, but mostly 2g data speeds, unless you're in an area where they've refarmed the 1900mhz frequency to run HSPA speeds. Good luck and let's hope they bring this bad boy to T-Mobile!
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^Yeah, I went ahead and put in my preorder for the 16GB 3G + WiFi N5100 from Negri Electronics last week. It was the least expensive site that I could find, and I know that they are a reputable seller. And since they are in Las Vegas shipping is relatively fast to the Los Angeles area.
Up until early yesterday the site said that the "Expected Availability" date was April 23rd, but just this morning (Los Angeles time) I checked again, and now it says May 8th. Gotta wait a bit longer now and I'm chomping at the bit as it is, LOL. Still, I wish it were closer to just ~$100 (or less) of a premium for the 3G/Phone version instead of the blatant raping that it is.
And we all know that Samsung would sell EXPONENTIALLY more of these if they matched the iPad Mini pricing, and actually released the 32gb versions at the same time as the 16gb base model, and for just $30-$40 more. At least we DO have the option to add microSD cards at a reasonable cost, but really Samsung?...a $100 more for a measly 16gb additional? That's just cwazy. (Yes, I have the same issue with Apple regarding this!) And Samsung makes the RAM memory chips so it's probably something like 50¢ more in actual production cost. :/
Yes. I still ordered one, but it was not an easy (or rational) decision that I made, LOL! It's actually just a bit depressing to contemplate spending so much for their "shiny plastic products", when the competition offer much nicer physical or cosmetic designs and materials (IMO), and at less cost.
I really believe that Samsung creates amazing products, and ergonomically I prefer most of their products over Apple's in that regard. However, they did miss the mark with the speaker and capacitive button placement on the Note 8.0. And I don't know what the designers were thinking with the camera protruding so much that the tab rocks from side-to-side when placed on a table, desk, etc. :/ So much for accurate use of the S-pen (the hero feature of this device)!
IMO, the Galaxy Tab 7.7 is the ONLY Samsung mobile electronics device that I can think of where I feel they came even close to matching the build quality and physical design of their competition. But once again, they priced it way out of the market. :/
And I don't mind the use of plastics one bit if they are used properly like the polycarbonates used in some of the higher-end Nokia and HTC devices. I truly feel that when Samsung gets their build quality up to par that the vast majority of the public will have no problem paying Apple-level prices (or more), and they'll sell a bazillion just like Apple does. But they're demanding premium prices, even over what Apple demands, but for an inferior physical design/build quality (IMHO). Why does Samsung not "get this"?!? People expect a BMW or Mercedes when they pay the price for one, not a Citroen (no offense to any Citroen owners).
With the Galaxy S4, if Samsung had just stepped-up the build quality alone (plus the 13mp camera), and nothing more as compared to the GS3, I would have purchased it. But with the same 'ol shiny plastic, its just a "Meh" product to me.
Also, I was really hoping that they would have included the hardware FM Radio tuner on the International version of the Note 8.0, just as they did on the Int'l SGS2, SGS3, Note (N7000), and Note 2. Initially, I didn't think that I would use the FM tuner at all, but I've found that I use it quite a bit...saves quite a bit on data as opposed to streaming.
LOL, sorry that I veered so off topic, haha. /END OF RANT
I am very much looking forward to using the new Note 8.0!
Does the Note 8.0 Jelly bean android has the Profile option? Can multiple users work on one Note 8.0 with different profiles with thier own custimazations like Nexus 10?
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Does the Note 8.0 Jelly bean android has the Profile option? Can multiple users work on one Note 8.0 with different profiles with thier own custimazations like Nexus 10?
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I don't see that option anywhere on the phine, so i'm assuming 7ts not a feature
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Note 8 LTE
Any news about the LTE version? Which LTE bands? It should be already on the market.
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Drop box is installed, if thats what you mean
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I meant to ask whether you also got the complementary 50 GB dropbox space with the 8.0.
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And we all know that Samsung would sell EXPONENTIALLY more of these if they matched the iPad Mini pricing, and actually released the 32gb versions at the same time as the 16gb base model, and for just $30-$40 more. At least we DO have the option to add microSD cards at a reasonable cost, but really Samsung?...a $100 more for a measly 16gb additional? That's just cwazy. (Yes, I have the same issue with Apple regarding this!) And Samsung makes the RAM memory chips so it's probably something like 50¢ more in actual production cost. :/
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I suspect the a good chunk of the additional cost here is the license for the Wacom digitizer and related technology. Samsung is being extremely aggressive in their pricing and product diversity as a way to combat Apple, so I don't think they would risk letting a well loved brand like Apple undercut them without reason.
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I suspect the a good chunk of the additional cost here is the license for the Wacom digitizer and related technology. Samsung is being extremely aggressive in their pricing and product diversity as a way to combat Apple, so I don't think they would risk letting a well loved brand like Apple undercut them without reason.
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Agree, but Do you think that even more diversification would help Samsung?
I think they should think of introducing a Note 8.0 sans the digitiser. Then they can really target the iPad Mini. It would still be a great product as many online reviews (Engadget) claim so.
That would be the true spiritual successor to the 7.7
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Where can I buy The GN 8.0 3G in US? Online store....

Hi where can i buy the Galaxy Note 8.0 at US online store? The only thing i see is the wifi version...Also I visited that Negrielectronics online store...it's so expensive... about $597.50 . Thanks
hatyrei said:
Hi where can i buy the Galaxy Note 8.0 at US online store? The only thing i see is the wifi version...Also I visited that Negrielectronics online store...it's so expensive... about $597.50 . Thanks
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Sorry, not officially sold in US, so you'll have to rely rely on 3rd party importers and will be more expensive unless you know someobe in Europe or Asia that can ship you one.
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^This.
Negri Electronics' price is the least expensive that I've found for the 3G version from a U.S. importer...currently at $597.50. But they do have excellent customer service and are a reputable seller. I've ordered "International" items from them several times. GSM Nation and Expansys USA are good as well, but usually more expensive.
Just a heads up to those of you in the U.S. that are waiting for the Int'l 3G/Phone version...It looks as if my preordered Int'l Note 8.0 3G+WiFi (N5100) should be shipped very soon from Negri Electronics (Las Vegas) here in the U.S. FYI, Negri Electronics is showing these as "IN STOCK" at the moment. Your browser user agent must be in "Desktop View/Mode" to see the full details of stock availability. EDIT: they are now listed as "BACKORDER".
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-n5100-galaxy-note-8-0-16gb-3g-unlocked-white.html
My credit card company sends me email alerts every time there is a transaction over $300, and they just sent me a Transaction Alert for a charge from N.E. I've had a preorder in for the Int'l Note 8.0 since April 16th, and IME Negri Electronics will only charge your credit card when they have stock in hand ready to ship, so my fingers are crossed. I'll keep you updated.
P.S. If you register an account at Negri and put the item in your shopping cart but do not follow through with the purchase (just leave it in your "shopping Cart"), in a few days Negri will email you with a $10 OFF coupon code for the item in your cart. And if you wait another few days they will send you a $20 off coupon code. It's not much, but every little bit helps as this item is so expensive already. Good luck.
I did wanted one of these for everyday devices but it's way too expensive for me. There's nothing wrong with my skyrocket I have now but I want upgrade. And my wife wants my phone so I guess I'll have to look else elsewhere.
Perhaps in a month or two the price could drop to within my reach?
One can only hope.....
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I did wanted one of these for everyday devices but it's way too expensive for me. There's nothing wrong with my skyrocket I have now but I want upgrade. And my wife wants my phone so I guess I'll have to look else elsewhere.
Perhaps in a month or two the price could drop to within my reach?
One can only hope.....
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Yeah, it is expensive. No doubt. But if you compare it with the price of a contract-free Unlocked Int'l Galaxy Note II GT-N7100 (which it is almost identical to hardware-wise except for the display, rear camera+LED Flash, and FM Tuner) it is a very similar price, at least here in the U.S.
I paid 608.00 on Ebay from a US seller with 1000+ feedback.
Picked up GeekSquad Spill and Drop insurance for another 50-something bucks.
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Yeah, it is expensive. No doubt. But if you compare it with the price of a contract-free Unlocked Int'l Galaxy Note II GT-N7100 (which it is almost identical to hardware-wise except for the display, rear camera+LED Flash, and FM Tuner) it is a very similar price, at least here in the U.S.
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I don't know how well it's going to receive around the world. This device isn't most powerful or innovative phablet that has yet to come out from Samsung but it is rumored to be more expensive then Apple mini. I don't care if it doesn't have Octa core or 3gb of ram but I am still over the fence about Samsung thinks because it has a S pen it can crush Apple and it's iSheeps without being most powerful and priced lower then mini. Don't get me wrong I love Samsung and I stand by I will only buy Samsung phones since I went thought several HTC(UGH) and Motorola(UGH) and Apple(double UGH) but I think Samsung is being just too ambitious this time. We will see how everything goes with in few months. If this succeed and still priced high, I will go to cheaper option and buy P3100 and wait for something reasonable from Samsung.
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I don't know how well it's going to receive around the world. This device isn't most powerful or innovative phablet that has yet to come out from Samsung but it is rumored to be more expensive then Apple mini. I don't care if it doesn't have Octa core or 3gb of ram but I am still over the fence about Samsung thinks because it has a S pen it can crush Apple and it's iSheeps without being most powerful and priced lower then mini. Don't get me wrong I love Samsung and I stand by I will only buy Samsung phones since I went thought several HTC(UGH) and Motorola(UGH) and Apple(double UGH) but I think Samsung is being just too ambitious this time. We will see how everything goes with in few months. If this succeed and still priced high, I will go to cheaper option and buy P3100 and wait for something reasonable from Samsung.
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Performance-wise, there is not a single problem with the Galaxy Note 8.0, unless you want it solely for playing the most demanding games, which the iPad Mini isn't ideal for either, so? And in some markets such as India, the 3G+WiFi Note 8.0 is only $20 USD more than the iPad Mini 3G+WiFi. For that $20 you get the S-Pen/Wacom Digitizer, PHONE & TEXT capability, and the TV/DVR/STEREO Remote Control IR Blaster! I'd say that is pretty compelling.
My other thoughts regarding the competition?...If Samsung would have made the BUILD QUALITY of the Note 8.0 similar to the HTC ONE or iPad Mini, then I think they would have a chance at being a true competitor in the general public's eyes.
And why not put the "old" 8MP Camera from the S3 in it to sweeten the deal? And please don't tell me that a good camera is useless in a tablet. When you need it, you need it! I can't tell you how many soccer moms and dads I've seen using their iPads to capture photos and videos of their kids between browsing the web or "Facebook'ing" during the game. Or taking photos of products, clothes, or comparison shopping by scanning barcodes and QR codes...or "scanning" business or personal receipts into financial apps.
I also think that they should really advertise and push the IR Blaster/Remote Control feature of this device! Just about everyone that can afford a tablet has an HDTV and cable/satellite service. Having the IR Blaster/WatchOn/Peel functionality, combined with the S-Pen features, true Multi-Window multitasking, and cellular Phone/Texting capability make this tablet/phablet truly unique in the marketplace.
BUT, they need interactive or video displays in the stores like Best Buy that demonstrate these unique features with a "Try that with an iPad...they can't do it" type of message. Everybody already knows what an iPad can do. But when comparing tablets in hand, customers just see a screen with a bunch of icons, they don't know the awesome things that ONLY the Note 8.0 can do!
They also need to advertise as above (like in the new S4 "swimming pool" commercial) how older folks and children can use this device, in addition to the unique advantages it gives a business person. And they need to give developers much more incentive to create unique and top notch tablet-specific apps, with and without S-pen functionality. And they also need to stop trying to copy or duplicate the Google apps that are already available and better! They need to realize that their tablets are nothing without the Google ecosystem.
/END OF ANOTHER RANT, LOL! Sorry.
hatyrei said:
Hi where can i buy the Galaxy Note 8.0 at US online store? The only thing i see is the wifi version...Also I visited that Negrielectronics online store...it's so expensive... about $597.50 . Thanks
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You have the option of third party suppliers. The other option is to wait a little longer. The LTE version is close to being released. There is a video on You Tube showing it but it's in Chinese and I can't understand it. I will say it looks good though. I'm waiting to see what frequencies the 4G version will come with as well.
I'm pretty sure the only LTE version announced is one that does not use US LTE bands and still would only give HSPA speeds to most people.
^You are most likely correct. I would be surprised if this model had LTE bands that are usable in the U.S. Perhaps if the proper antennas and radio amps are already in the hardware, a crafty developer could port the radio software from the AT&T Galaxy Note II?
UPDATE on my purchase from Negri Electronics:
I received an email from Negri Electronics today with a FedEx Tracking Number for the Galaxy Note 8.0 3G+WiFi (GT-N5100).
However, it is being shipped directly from Hong Kong and not from the N.E. location in Las Vegas, so it will take a few more days to get here than I originally expected (Los Angeles area).
Other devices that I have purchased from them have shipped from the L.V. location so I didn't expect this when I placed my preorder. If I had known ahead of time, I might have ordered one from eBay seller 'never-msrp' in Houston, TX.
Either way I'm looking forward to getting it. I just wanted to let anyone else who has preordered from Negri, or is thinking about it, know what's up.
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^You are most likely correct. I would be surprised if this model had LTE bands that are usable in the U.S. Perhaps if the proper antennas and radio amps are already in the hardware, a crafty developer could port the radio software from the AT&T Galaxy Note II?
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I've been searching like crazy trying to see if anyone's been able to do this with the Note 8 or 10.1, but I can't seem to find anyone that's been able to do it. I know there's a way to enable T-Mobile's AWS bands for a rooted AT&T N2, but as far as enabling any LTE or AWS bands on a N8 or N10.1 (non-Verizon), I haven't had any luck. I'm not sure they're even the same radios
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Ya i am not able to find a link where i can purchase galaxy 8.0 online. Please share a link if you guys have it.

So who's getting one?

I currently have a tab pro 8.4, but I'm salivating for something that I should have waited for. How do we think this tab compares to the current ones? What does everyone think of the ps4 remote capabilities?
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Yep. Have the tab pro 8.4 too. Wanted Sony, but the Z2 tab was too big.
This should be perfect. But my tab is pretty new.
It probably won't be available in India for a couple of months anyway.. Will seriously consider it.
I just saw a hands on video on android central. It looks like it would give me pretty much the same experience as my tab 8.4(aside from remote play obviously) . So the only thing motivating me now is my love for gadgets and ridding myself of this home button. ?
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I currently have a tab pro 8.4, but I'm salivating for something that I should have waited for. How do we think this tab compares to the current ones? What does everyone think of the ps4 remote capabilities?
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the remote capablilties may be port able
I need to see reviews first, especially the battery life... If GSMArena will rate the video playback for more than 10hrs, then it's golden...
Sub 300 ppi is a deal breaker for me.
Also priced at same level as Retina Mini and Samsung Tab S. However Samsung Tab S has 20% off code which is really its true RRP. Therefore this Sony is expensive.
Only positive is that it looks like it has a dialler. If so I would consider using this as my daily device over my Sony Ultra. (I rarely make or receive phones calls anymore as communication is usually through data).
I am considering this as a replacement for my Ultra. Unlocked SGP621 for me, I am already prepared for an imported unit since I am very skeptical against US availability for an unlocked, unbranded LTE edition. The lack of such information yesterday indicate a huge risk for a new Z2 Tablet LTE flop, aka carrier exclusivity, disabled radio bands and bloatware.
So I expect to buy it from either At GSM or Negri Electronics as I usually do (I got my Xperia Z half a year before a crippled T-Mobile version came and I also owned the Ultra for a similar length of time before they gave it a US release).
I made a mockup of the Z3 Tablet Compact yesterday and it could replace the Ultra without too many problems, it is just a few mm wider than the CP12 power cover I use. Since I read a lot on my device, big screens are a necessity and since it is a tablet, I expect fully operational 213 DPI as well with build.prop edit. The more I check it out, the more convinced I am about it as the "Ultra 2".
One thing I really hope is that they give it a proper keyboard cover, then it would also replace my TF700 as well. They had the BKB50 for the Z2 Tablet but cancelled it but I hope a "BKB40" will arrive for this new baby.
The dialer is also the key enabler as an Ultra replacement in my case as well and I am not afraid of buying an imported device. Getting it through a US carrier is just out of the question.
Well I just bought the Nvidia Shield Tablet, so I wont be getting the Z3 Tablet Compact... but I really want the launcher...
Definitely pre-ordering one as soon as the option is available in the US. I love my Kindle Fire HDX 8.9, but the remote play option is too good to pass up. Not to mention the fact that it's waterproof.
Waiting for the price. It it's closer to $300 I might consider it other wise Tab S 8.4 for me.......
Have the Tab S 8.4. I'm just sick of Samsung's crapwiz and this stupid home button. I'm so tempted to get the z3 tablet, but I will wait for the next Nexus 8.9 I could get behind.
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I'll be getting the LTE version unlocked @ ATGSM like E90 mentioned. Hopefully it'll work out to be my only device for 90% of my tasks (calls, texts, reading, browsing, etc.) Can't wait til Nov. 4th!
Also from the overseas pricing it looks like it'll be $499 for the 16Gb LTE version.
Will this have "tap-to-wake"-functionality? Does anyone know?
November 4th is the release date? Man that's far they all look so good shield tab s
I'm interested, as long as they have a 32GB LTE version. Too bad Samsung keeps screwing up their tablets. Now I have to wait....
Unless something more interesting comes along before then.
Look for it to be $399 in the US for the 16gb WiFi version. I have money already set aside for one. Been wanting a Sony 8" tablet for a while.
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Hah it's funny how the first two posts mention the Tab Pro 8.4. So I got a Tab S 8.4 thinking it would be the ****, but I was disappointed by the performance of the Exynos CPU and Touchwiz, as well as the Knox counter, and how development for the device didn't look very promising. I got a Tab Pro 8.4 for comparison, which I like more than the S, actually, but...
I just had/have this gut feeling there's going to be better devices in the near future. The Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact (shoot whoever names these damn devices) is one such promising device. The other device I'm waiting to hear about definitively is the "Nexus 9" (if it's going to be called that), which is rumored to be an 8.9" 4:3 device.
Can anyone comment on how hackable I should expect this thing to be? I got a taste of a relatively dead development scene with these two Tabs; a far cry from my Nexus 4 which has tons of potential. I know that the Nexus 9 will probably be good on this front, but I've never bought a Sony tablet before.
I'm going to guess the nexus devices will always have the most active development because of how easy it is to unlock and go crazy. It's a little funny how few roms there are for my tab pro 8.4 considering how nice the hardware is.
I'm not seasoned enough to comment on the possibility of roms for these sony tabs. Evidently , nice hardware may not be a motivating factor. One plus, though is that it won't have knox. ?
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Look for it to be $399 in the US for the 16gb WiFi version. I have money already set aside for one. Been wanting a Sony 8" tablet for a while.
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That's not bad...not wonderful but not bad. Trying to figure out if waterproof is worth that much, or if I should go with a SHIELD Tablet.
So just heard it maybe white only 32gb for the US WiFi and lte version. Not sure why only white 32 but that's the latest info I am getting.
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No note 5 for uk

I am absolutely disappointed by this!
Terrible move by Samsung for not releasing this in the UK.. Kick in the teeth
Time to think about changing brands
Apparently no 128gb model either. A person on a forum linked a Verizon page showing a 128gb, but Verizon is stating was a place holder for the launch and based on S6 offering one. I guess
a few days/weeks to see if Samsung changes their tune and then months before one could be added to the line up and landed to consumers.
EU actually.
the entire continent is missing out on the note 5, not just the little island in the west.
In fact Samsung now offer more or less only one phone in two sizes and with our without round edges (S6/edge/edge+ and note 5) and then they castrate themselves by taking the note from 1/3 of the world market with the argument that the phones were too similar and they would fear a cannibalism effect like they suffered already with S6 and S6edge. If they would had designed the note 5 differently and had given it besides the pen other differentations like replaceable batteries, plastic housing, sd card and water proofness they could have addressed different potential customers and they would not had the need to withdraw it from Europe.
Almost like Samsung is being mind controlled by Apple, since Apple could not hope for a "better" product to go against with the new iPhone 6+.
What a stupid decision are Samsung determined too cede their market share to their rivals.
At the most it may appear in the EU next year.
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note5_will_not_launch_in_europe_this_year-news-13534.php
This article contains an updated statement from Samsung.
http://www.engadget.com/2015/08/13/...d_Classic&utm_campaign=Engadget&ncid=rss_semi
It has to come to Europe. I am defiant by that statement. Even if it will be in 2016.
I still think it's ridiculous though. I thought, I'll skip the Note 4 and get the 5, and then it's delayed by six months.
The market availability of the Samsung Galaxy Note 5 will vary according to consumer needs and the specific market situation. The Samsung Galaxy Note 5 will be introduced in the US and Asian markets in August and we will look at further opportunities to launch the Galaxy Note 5 in other markets.
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What about the MENA region??
Short story of my day...
"Uhhh, can't wait for the new Note 5 as I wanted a replacement for my Note 3."
Samsung: No SD card.
"Okay, not fond of it but I will survive."
Samsung: Can't change battery.
"Ahh dammit, but still want it."
"Actually just shut up and take my money!"
Samsung: F... you, we won't sell it to you.
(Flips table)
Imo this was a very risky, bold move by not releasing this in the uk. But when you think about it korea and china constantly get phones that the uk and us dont. Im not going to bash them becuase i have an s6 and love it. We all should of known the note would be nothing but an overblown s6. Just like the nexus 6 was a moto x 2014 on steriods. Id assume once sales drop for sammy they will come to their senses and at least bring back an sd card on the s7 and note 6. Not much different than the "flagship killer" oneplus2 with no nfc or the m9 that was just a m8. Not a great year for new devices.
fix-this! said:
Imo this was a very risky, bold move by not releasing this in the uk. But when you think about it korea and china constantly get phones that the uk and us dont. Im not going to bash them becuase i have an s6 and love it. We all should of known the note would be nothing but an overblown s6. Just like the nexus 6 was a moto x 2014 on steriods. Id assume once sales drop for sammy they will come to their senses and at least bring back an sd card on the s7 and note 6. Not much different than the "flagship killer" oneplus2 with no nfc or the m9 that was just a m8. Not a great year for new devices.
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They can't release right now in the UK or their sells will really tank.. You guys are going to get the note 5 with the 7422 processor, epop modems and a much bigger battery.
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thedicemaster said:
EU actually.
the entire continent is missing out on the note 5, not just the little island in the west.
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My god . . . Can it be true that the giant landmass of Holland is missing out? Shame on the OP for focusing on the UK when the teeming billions of Dutch will miss out.
and the French, Germans, Spaniards, Portugese, Belgians, Greeks, Italians, Slovenians, and several more.
no one wants the note 5 anyway, they can keep their gimped downgraded phone, who cares.
HUYI said:
no one wants the note 5 anyway, they can keep their gimped downgraded phone, who cares.
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yup, I love my S6, had to buy it because my moto x 2014 broke but I really wanted to wait for the note5. I was still ready to get the note5 when it would come out but this phone is not even a straight upgrade from the s6, why did they remove the IR blaster?
By the looks of it the AT&T model supports the UK 4G bands (3, 7 & 20).
My girlfriend is currently in the States and returns in early September.
If she purchased one direct from an AT&T store to bring back for me, how long do you think I'd have to wait before people were able to offer unlock codes for them so I could use one with a Three UK sim card?
Apple here I come!!!
Samsung touch wiz still an issue. Had the s6 Edge which was cool but battery was poor and poor. Probably same issue with s6 Edge + and the price will be another deciding factor..
HTC pretty much quiet next couple of years due to loss after loss.
Moto x just not premium enough.
Chinese phones just don't get to us in time.
So apple it is.. Nooooooo
riz157 said:
Apple here I come!!!
Samsung touch wiz still an issue. Had the s6 Edge which was cool but battery was poor and poor. Probably same issue with s6 Edge + and the price will be another deciding factor..
HTC pretty much quiet next couple of years due to loss after loss.
Moto x just not premium enough.
Chinese phones just don't get to us in time.
So apple it is.. Nooooooo
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or a note4 at a discount
godutch said:
or a note4 at a discount
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Did that baby it was nice whilst it lasted the whole month! Again touch wiz and the lag was too much to handle.
People are going to make a pretty penny doing import sales of the Note 5 into Europe I suspect.

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