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Torn between this and the Nexus!

I know I can't be the only one out there. I'm just really unsure about the Note's size... I'm a tall guy, with big hands, but its just seems that bit too big?
Mind you, I've been using my Tab 7.0 as a phone for a good 3 weeks!
Is it really usable with one hand? By that I mean, can I fire off a quick text with one hand? If its a yes, I'll order it now!
Thanks for anything useful you have to say!

I'm in the same situation like you!
I'm currently with AT&T at the moment, wondering if I should sell my iPhone 4S (only reason I got it was because of its high resale value) to buy a Note to use, or wait until the Nexus comes to Verizon and sell my iPhone and use that money for the Nexus.
I really like the size of the Note and would love to use it during school, but I kind of want to see how the Nexus looks in real life first before making my decision.
I would also rather be on Verizon's network to be honest, with it's double data promotion helping its case even more.

Im thinking I may just go for the nexus now, I've not had a pure android yet (from stock) and it looks fluid as anything! IMO Touchwiz slows down Android (I own both the Tab and original Galaxy S).
Still can't seem to click buy on either though!

Let me just say that I had the same concerns, so much so that I was determined to wait until I played with the Note before ordering it. I went ahead and took the chance and I am VERY pleased. The phone does not feel nearly as big as you might thing. I think it is very comfortable to use, fits in all my pockets, and is an absolute pleasure to have. I guarantee you will not regret buying the Note. Just read the other reviews.

pscampbell said:
Let me just say that I had the same concerns, so much so that I was determined to wait until I played with the Note before ordering it. I went ahead and took the chance and I am VERY pleased. The phone does not feel nearly as big as you might thing. I think it is very comfortable to use, fits in all my pockets, and is an absolute pleasure to have. I guarantee you will not regret buying the Note. Just read the other reviews.
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I'm not worried about pockets, my 7.0 tab fits in my pockets! I just thought.... If I buy this I can sell my Tab and put that towards this, as it'll replace it anyway!
I'll sell my tab on eBay me thinks!
EDIT: Tab in the marketplace, once thats sold, I will be buying note. Just found out that Nexus uses a poor GPU. I know its twice the speed of Galaxy S, but I'd rather have samsungs latest chip!

I just ordered a white Note from eBay. The way I look at it, an Aosp ICS rom will come eventually. Then you have the option be it Aosp, MIUI, or Touchwiz. And if one doesn't come fast enough, use the Note then sell it when the Nexus is available to you. I have an HTC right now and I switch between Aosp and Sense and its nice to have the choice.
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Here are a couple of Nexus deal breakers for me.
Only 16GB of storage, on my 16GB Note only 11GB is usable, the rest are reserved for OS and apps. This limit my music files to 128 kbps and with 1GB of storage left. Also the 32GB Nexus is not available yet, and I'm not sure I want to pay premium price for a 16GB upgrade when 32GB micro sd card are around £40.
The 16:9 screen makes the phone easier to hold but awkward when browsing the web in portrait mode.
Also the processor and graphic chip are weaker than the Note, so not the best phone out there for future proof.
The only selling point of Nexus compared to the Note is ICS, which will be on the Note either from Samsung or developers. After almost two weeks of using the Note, I found the performance very smooth, so not in a hurry to upgrade to ICS.
Unless you really want an ICS device, I'd get the Note. I'm sure you will happier with the Note few months down the line when both devices have ICS.
P.S. Typing with one hand is awkward at best, and you are risking drop the phone while doing it.

Bigmille said:
Here are a couple of Nexus deal breakers for me.
Only 16GB of storage, on my 16GB Note only 11GB is usable, the rest are reserved for OS and apps. This limit my music files to 128 kbps and with 1GB of storage left. Also the 32GB Nexus is not available yet, and I'm not sure I want to pay premium price for a 16GB upgrade when 32GB micro sd card are around £40.
The 16:9 screen makes the phone easier to hold but awkward when browsing the web in portrait mode.
Also the processor and graphic chip are weaker than the Note, so not the best phone out there for future proof.
The only selling point of Nexus compared to the Note is ICS, which will be on the Note either from Samsung or developers. After almost two weeks of using the Note, I found the performance very smooth, so not in a hurry to upgrade to ICS.
Unless you really want an ICS device, I'd get the Note. I'm sure you will happier with the Note few months down the line when both devices have ICS.
P.S. Typing with one hand is awkward at best, and you are risking drop the phone while doing it.
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You couldn't have summed it up any better! I'll probably order of Amazon.de tomorrow morn.

Portability
This device is more portable than a tab.
Think of it not as a phone, or a tab, but an XDA(convergent digital assistant)
I would not even consider a tab (or a laptop).
I have a workstation, and an XDA.
Have so for nearly 10 years.
The note is particularly portable and useful.

khsbenny said:
You couldn't have summed it up any better! I'll probably order of Amazon.de tomorrow morn.
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You are welcome, Amazon.de normally ship the phone out the next working day and it will take two more days for delivery via CityLink.
Also CityLink web tracking might tell you the phone will arrive the next working day after Amazon has shipped the Note. Don't belive them and don't panic when the tracking don't get updated for the 1st 24hrs.

Xaddict said:
This device is more portable than a tab.
Think of it not as a phone, or a tab, but an XDA(convergent digital assistant)
I would not even consider a tab (or a laptop).
I have a workstation, and an XDA.
Have so for nearly 10 years.
The note is particularly portable and useful.
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I'm looking forward to a stylus! As much as Jobs hated them, you can't beat them for accuracy. Web browsing was easier on my 2.8" screen on my HTC Diamond thanks to a stylus!

I was thinking of getting the nexus too but no sd card slot is poo, but I will be getting the note as soon it's available in white in the uk
Anyone know of any UK sites selling white ones?

ik911 said:
I was thinking of getting the nexus too but no sd card slot is poo, but I will be getting the note as soon it's available in white in the uk
Anyone know of any UK sites selling white ones?
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I'd be interested in that too.
Although unless its >£500 I'll stick with black.

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I'd be interested in that too.
Although unless its >£500 I'll stick with black.
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All I found is this £539.99 with no date http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/5864/samsung-galaxy-note--16gb--sim-free-unlocked--white-

ik911 said:
All I found is this £539.99 with no date http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/5864/samsung-galaxy-note--16gb--sim-free-unlocked--white-
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I suppose I could claim the VAT back.... If its not in the next few days I might have to give the white one a miss

I'm in the same boat as you. I've been mulling over this decision for about 2 weeks at least
Here's my pros and cons, and these are too me, a US AT&T user still in contract:
Note Pros:
- Screen
- CPU
- Battery
- Staying with AT&T
Cons:
- Importing and Warranty
- No ICS yet. This is big as it looks like exchange support is greatly improved there, and I'd like to ditch Touchdown
I don't consider the stylus much of a pro personally - I don't think I'll use it
Nexus Pros:
- Vanilla ICS
- NFC
- LTE sim swap with my Xoom (this is kinda minor, as WiFi hotspot is basically the same except that I can conserve my phone's battery if I were to go on a road trip)
- Better dev and app support because it will be more popular
Nexus Cons:
- very worried about battery life with LTE. I'd hope to go data only too, so I'd have GooVe IP signed in all the time.
- smaller screen, though it might be OK as I've had a Dell Streak and so many apps don't deal with gigantic screens very well.
- maybe slightly worse camera from my investigations
I probably should just buy the Note and be done with it, but I want to see what Verizon's off contract price is. if it's $600 that's hard to then justify getting a Note for around $750 I think. $650-700 will be a note autobuy I think... then again my ETF would be around $150, but going data only will save in the long run, but not sure if I can reliably recieve calls on GrooVe IP... meh... decisions.

There IS a simple solution........... JUST GET BOTH !!!
It is what I am doing....... can't help myself

Nothing touches Galaxy Note on the market IMO. Engadget just did a hands-on test of the Galaxy Nexus and here's something they mention in their article:
It's still too early to comment on battery life, but so far we're not seeing any issues. While the Nexus feels quite snappy it isn't as mind bendingly fast as some Gingerbread devices (the Galaxy Note comes to mind)
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The Note is a superior platform--bigger display, S-pen functionality, faster CPU, faster GPU. Why would anyone outside a developer want a Nexus? ICS is coming to our phone so there's no advantage there. People argue Touchwiz adds a layer of lag and I disagree, my phone with 2.3.6 gingerbread is lightning fast and I never see any lag.

where can I get the 2.3.6 version? I tried to update my phone but it said my phone was all updated.

5150Joker said:
Nothing touches Galaxy Note on the market IMO. Engadget just did a hands-on test of the Galaxy Nexus and here's something they mention in their article:
The Note is a superior platform--bigger display, S-pen functionality, faster CPU, faster GPU. Why would anyone outside a developer want a Nexus? ICS is coming to our phone so there's no advantage there. People argue Touchwiz adds a layer of lag and I disagree, my phone with 2.3.6 gingerbread is lightning fast and I never see any lag.
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Agree with everything you said. I've been doing my research on both since I had been going back and forth on what phone I really wanted and even went with just the AT&T GS2 for a few days but in the end both the GS2 and Nexus both are inferior devices to what the Note offers and outside of getting ICS early I can't see any reason to buy the Nexus unless you just need a smaller phone. I'd rather wait and get ICS shortly down the road than to get it a few weeks earlier on lesser hardware.

GT-N5100 Note 8.0 3G

Does anyone know when the 3G version will be released? I have read in many reviews that battery life on the WiFi is not that impressive, do you think Samsung would ship the 3G version with a larger battery?

in Malaysia the Note 8 is launched with the 3G version already, on Friday.
all specs remain the same throughout

Shame it could have done with a bigger battery by all accounts. I'll still get one, (im)patiently waiting for a 3G version, any colour, any storage size in the UK.

I have been using Galaxy note 8 n5100 as my main phone since i bought it last april 13 here in the Philippines, the battery is pretty good it can last 10 to 12hour, with moderate calls and always connected data, autosync on moderate browsing and email with minimal gps use, the battery on this phone is way better than galaxy tab 7 plus which it replaced as my primary phone
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genius24k said:
I have been using Galaxy note 8 n5100 as my main phone since i bought 7t past april 13 here in Philippines, the battery is pretty it can last 10 to 12hour, with moderate calls and always connected data, autosync on moderate browsing and email with minimal gps use, battery is way better than galaxy tab 7 plus which it replaced as my primary phone
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Thanks for your mini review! Waiting for it to launch in India.
How much did it cost you (in USD)? Are any freebies like PlayStore credit or Dropbox available as well?

agambhandari said:
Thanks for your mini review! Waiting for it to launch in India.
How much did it cost you (in USD)? Are any freebies like PlayStore credit or Dropbox available as well?
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Around 530USD, yeah the samsung book cover is free, they also did a free phone promo, you get to take home the samsung phone you draw from lot, most guy went home with the cheapest samsung phone including myself
Drop box is installed, if thats what you mean
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Do anyone know the release date of the 3G model and the possible price on US, because I am planning to buy it?

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Do anyone know the release date of the 3G model and the possible price on US, because I am planning to buy it?
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Currently, Samsung does not seem to have any plan or intention to launch a phablet version of the device in the US. You'll likely either have to wait for them to come to their senses, or buy an international version.

Juvenall said:
Currently, Samsung does not seem to have any plan or intention to launch a phablet version of the device in the US. You'll likely either have to wait for them to come to their senses, or buy an international version.
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I'm interested for the the international version.
Heard anything about that?

The 3G price would seem to be hovering around the $800 mark based on eBay listings for the GT-N5100, but it's availability still seems up in the air. Hopefully someone outside of the US can point you towards a reputable international seller with stock.

Wow. It will be so expensive.
Thanks for your help.

The 3G version retails around $580 in Asia. Prices will come down on eBay very soon.

I'm waiting for it in the US as well. There's a site called Negri Electronics located in Las Vegas, that has a pre order page for it, listed at $660 at the time of this post. From what I've heard, the international version should be released April 30, but I haven't found any confirmation. As far as releasing s US version, I'm sure they'll release an LTE version sooner or later for use with CDMA networks like Verizon and US Cellular, but if you plan on getting it going on T-Mobile (like me), it'll only run on their 1900mhz frequency, which allows phone calls, but mostly 2g data speeds, unless you're in an area where they've refarmed the 1900mhz frequency to run HSPA speeds. Good luck and let's hope they bring this bad boy to T-Mobile!
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^Yeah, I went ahead and put in my preorder for the 16GB 3G + WiFi N5100 from Negri Electronics last week. It was the least expensive site that I could find, and I know that they are a reputable seller. And since they are in Las Vegas shipping is relatively fast to the Los Angeles area.
Up until early yesterday the site said that the "Expected Availability" date was April 23rd, but just this morning (Los Angeles time) I checked again, and now it says May 8th. Gotta wait a bit longer now and I'm chomping at the bit as it is, LOL. Still, I wish it were closer to just ~$100 (or less) of a premium for the 3G/Phone version instead of the blatant raping that it is.
And we all know that Samsung would sell EXPONENTIALLY more of these if they matched the iPad Mini pricing, and actually released the 32gb versions at the same time as the 16gb base model, and for just $30-$40 more. At least we DO have the option to add microSD cards at a reasonable cost, but really Samsung?...a $100 more for a measly 16gb additional? That's just cwazy. (Yes, I have the same issue with Apple regarding this!) And Samsung makes the RAM memory chips so it's probably something like 50¢ more in actual production cost. :/
Yes. I still ordered one, but it was not an easy (or rational) decision that I made, LOL! It's actually just a bit depressing to contemplate spending so much for their "shiny plastic products", when the competition offer much nicer physical or cosmetic designs and materials (IMO), and at less cost.
I really believe that Samsung creates amazing products, and ergonomically I prefer most of their products over Apple's in that regard. However, they did miss the mark with the speaker and capacitive button placement on the Note 8.0. And I don't know what the designers were thinking with the camera protruding so much that the tab rocks from side-to-side when placed on a table, desk, etc. :/ So much for accurate use of the S-pen (the hero feature of this device)!
IMO, the Galaxy Tab 7.7 is the ONLY Samsung mobile electronics device that I can think of where I feel they came even close to matching the build quality and physical design of their competition. But once again, they priced it way out of the market. :/
And I don't mind the use of plastics one bit if they are used properly like the polycarbonates used in some of the higher-end Nokia and HTC devices. I truly feel that when Samsung gets their build quality up to par that the vast majority of the public will have no problem paying Apple-level prices (or more), and they'll sell a bazillion just like Apple does. But they're demanding premium prices, even over what Apple demands, but for an inferior physical design/build quality (IMHO). Why does Samsung not "get this"?!? People expect a BMW or Mercedes when they pay the price for one, not a Citroen (no offense to any Citroen owners).
With the Galaxy S4, if Samsung had just stepped-up the build quality alone (plus the 13mp camera), and nothing more as compared to the GS3, I would have purchased it. But with the same 'ol shiny plastic, its just a "Meh" product to me.
Also, I was really hoping that they would have included the hardware FM Radio tuner on the International version of the Note 8.0, just as they did on the Int'l SGS2, SGS3, Note (N7000), and Note 2. Initially, I didn't think that I would use the FM tuner at all, but I've found that I use it quite a bit...saves quite a bit on data as opposed to streaming.
LOL, sorry that I veered so off topic, haha. /END OF RANT
I am very much looking forward to using the new Note 8.0!

Does the Note 8.0 Jelly bean android has the Profile option? Can multiple users work on one Note 8.0 with different profiles with thier own custimazations like Nexus 10?

livetech2 said:
Does the Note 8.0 Jelly bean android has the Profile option? Can multiple users work on one Note 8.0 with different profiles with thier own custimazations like Nexus 10?
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I don't see that option anywhere on the phine, so i'm assuming 7ts not a feature
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Note 8 LTE
Any news about the LTE version? Which LTE bands? It should be already on the market.

genius24k said:
Drop box is installed, if thats what you mean
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I meant to ask whether you also got the complementary 50 GB dropbox space with the 8.0.
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bbfoto said:
And we all know that Samsung would sell EXPONENTIALLY more of these if they matched the iPad Mini pricing, and actually released the 32gb versions at the same time as the 16gb base model, and for just $30-$40 more. At least we DO have the option to add microSD cards at a reasonable cost, but really Samsung?...a $100 more for a measly 16gb additional? That's just cwazy. (Yes, I have the same issue with Apple regarding this!) And Samsung makes the RAM memory chips so it's probably something like 50¢ more in actual production cost. :/
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I suspect the a good chunk of the additional cost here is the license for the Wacom digitizer and related technology. Samsung is being extremely aggressive in their pricing and product diversity as a way to combat Apple, so I don't think they would risk letting a well loved brand like Apple undercut them without reason.

Juvenall said:
I suspect the a good chunk of the additional cost here is the license for the Wacom digitizer and related technology. Samsung is being extremely aggressive in their pricing and product diversity as a way to combat Apple, so I don't think they would risk letting a well loved brand like Apple undercut them without reason.
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Agree, but Do you think that even more diversification would help Samsung?
I think they should think of introducing a Note 8.0 sans the digitiser. Then they can really target the iPad Mini. It would still be a great product as many online reviews (Engadget) claim so.
That would be the true spiritual successor to the 7.7
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8.4 same fate as the Galaxy Tab 7.7?

I wonder how well updated a 8.4 (possibly LTE) will get regular updates. I had a 7.7, that I thought was a "premium" device, and I lost it before I could even put ICS on it. It started to lag, and lag and lag as new apps were updated and used.
So what do you think? Would this face the same fate as the 7.7 tab or the 8.9 tab, or more like the original 10.1 tab (which I think it was adequate and more in line with what I expect from a device.
Any input is appreciated.

As underwhelming as Android updates have been since 4.1, I don't think it really matters anymore. My Moto X got updated from 4.3 to 4.4... I barely noticed.

RipplingHurst said:
I wonder how well updated a 8.4 (possibly LTE) will get regular updates. I had a 7.7, that I thought was a "premium" device, and I lost it before I could even put ICS on it. It started to lag, and lag and lag as new apps were updated and used.
So what do you think? Would this face the same fate as the 7.7 tab or the 8.9 tab, or more like the original 10.1 tab (which I think it was adequate and more in line with what I expect from a device.
Any input is appreciated.
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The 7.7 was Verizon I think. Anything involving Verizon will be very slow on updates. They are the worst at approving manufacturer updates and pushing them out. HTC leaked a final 4.3 for my former DROID DNA 5 and it took Verizon 5 months to release it.
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All Samsung's high-end tablets starting with the N10.1-14 are running the same h/w and screen resolution. That's got to make coding updates faster and easier as so much is shared between them.

I'm optimistic that it will be different from the Tab 7.7 for a couple reasons. As mentioned above, the hardware and screen resolution is nearly identical across multiple devices this time, where the 7.7 was the only tablet with its processor and screen resolution (the Note 1 and Tab 7 Plus were the closest two. A phone and another low selling sparsely available tablet). The international version was updated slowly, but far quicker than the Verizon LTE version. However, I think it didn't sell well at all, was expensive, and was banned from multiple countries before or after its rocky unveiling (remember Apple had the courts remove it from the stand at IFA?). It became the best product that Samsung couldn't sell and therefore had little incentive to support it.
Not that I'm trying to make excuses for Samsung not supporting it, just that I'm logically hopeful this time around.

RipplingHurst said:
I wonder how well updated a 8.4 (possibly LTE) will get regular updates. I had a 7.7, that I thought was a "premium" device, and I lost it before I could even put ICS on it. It started to lag, and lag and lag ..
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I still have a 7.7 and it's on JB4.1.2.
It's smooth as... AND twice as quick.
I remember the lag on the Default ICS ROM and I was very disapointed. Especially as I had an S2 with less power but it's UI was silky smooth.
Fortunately the was a developer UpInTheAir who kept the device moving forward. His first ICS Sky High rom for the 7.7 was a god send.
And now, if it were not for the Pro 8.4 I'd still want to keep my 7.7 with the JB 4.1.2 release available.
The point however to take from your comments is that WITHOUT xda community the 7.7 I would have been very disappointed. It would have stayed the best screen/worst OS tablet/paperweight device available. As it is now with this ROM it is a better alternative than for Apple iPad Mini 1st Gen.
I hope that the 'Tab Pro' given it's 'Pro' status Samsung keeps with the updates. (Given I've just ordered one)

Welcome to the world of Samsung. You'll be lucky if you get more then 2 updates or a year of support. They're in the business of making a quick buck then dump their customers to desolation.

Got the iPad mini. Samsung scares me too much. If I was going for the 10.1, okay, but the 8.4 may turn out to be not popular enough and will be forgotten.

I have a Mini Retina. Sorry but there is no comparison to the 8.4 Pro. Sure the Mini has a nice aluminum back (which you need to immediately put into a case as it scratches super easy) and a slightly more robust battery but that's about it.
The Samsung wins everywhere it matters, battery notwithstanding.
I'll put the two side by side and take some pics of the screen. The Mini Retina is much dimmer (my biggest beef btw with the LG G Pad) than the Samsung irrespective of what brightness levels you set it at.
The other biggie is the Micro SD slot. The Tab Pro + a 64GB Micro SD card (80 GB total) is about $160 cheaper than a 64GB Mini Retina. Plus the accessories are much cheaper (mind you less selection of cases).
Now that Sandisk has released a 128GB Micro SD for $120 that equates to a 144GB tablet for $200 cheaper than the 128GB Mini Retina.
Plus if you are an avid reader, you cannot beat the reading apps on Android. The closest is Marvin for IOS and its still barely usable.

Just curious, is tab pro 8.4 capable of making phone calls? and i mean real phone calls like tab 7.7

Buy the LTE version and you can...

seriously? any article or anything to support your statement?
im very interested to get the 8.4 pro but i need it to be able to make phone calls also
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Justin^Tan said:
seriously? any article or anything to support your statement?
im very interested to get the 8.4 pro but i need it to be able to make phone calls also
thanks before
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If you take a look at any reviews of LTE version then you can see Phone Application as well. And this fact is known, I' m waiting for the same thing...

hmm. so it's based on the picture of the phone application huh? okay2 ^^ thanks

Yeah i 'm also getting the LTE version to make phone calls

The reason the 7.7 didn't get a lot of support is due to it being banned in many countries so without them able to sell it they had no reason to keep it updated.
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I ordered the 8.4 LTE from Hong Kong... it'll arrive in 10 days.
I use the 7.7 now as my phone. I'm expecting to use the 8.4 as my phone too.

Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 vs Samsung Galaxy Tab S 8.4 LTE, Worth Upgrading?
Hi
Thanks for this topic.... above notes and comments. This has has been eating my brain for weeks....
I am also in this dilemma to, see actual comparison of two in terms of spec here:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/co...LTE,Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-S-8.4/phones/6739,8663 (If im not allowed to add this, mods please remove link and keep post, thanks)
I wanted to know if it’s worth upgrading too or not, as I also used it for phone calls and video calls. I was wondering can the tab s 8.4 4G/LTE work in the same manner or are they different now? Also build quality on the Tab 7.7 is second to none. How does it compare to Tab S 8.4?
See that the Galaxy Tab 7.7 had the following available:
Tablet with support for GSM voice communication, SMS, and MMS
Does the Galaxy Tab S 8.4 have the same fate as the Tab 7.7. Meaning does it have the same capabilities of "Tablet with support for GSM voice communication, SMS, and MMS"
Does anyone know, if yes please advise. As I’m thinking of selling my tab 7.7 32gb Wi-Fi and 3G to purchase a tab s 8.4 WiFi & 4G/LTE…
Thanks

The 8.4 (and other sizes) Pro seems abandoned with launch of Tab S

This reminds me of what Sammie did with the P6800 a couple of years back when they abandoned the P6800 withing a year of it's launch.
As there looks like there will never be a 32gb 8.4 Pro and there isn't currently a 32gb 8.4 S I'm sitting on the fence.
I have to say Sammies constant morass of new products without anything approaching a coherent product replacement cycle, combined with their lack of support in 'walking away' from existing relatively new products does mean I think hard before spending money on their tabs.

pinsb said:
This reminds me of what Sammie did with the P6800 a couple of years back when they abandoned the P6800 withing a year of it's launch.
As there looks like there will never be a 32gb 8.4 Pro and there isn't currently a 32gb 8.4 S I'm sitting on the fence.
I have to say Sammies constant morass of new products without anything approaching a coherent product replacement cycle, combined with their lack of support in 'walking away' from existing relatively new products does mean I think hard before spending money on their tabs.
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Its sad, considering I still see tab pros in shops etc.
are there any new features software wise that is in Tab S ?

Are you expecting Samsung to update the Pro less than a year after the product launched? It was launched in February, just 7 months ago. Most of their products refresh annually. What makes you think they've abandoned it?

CafeKampuchia said:
Are you expecting Samsung to update the Pro less than a year after the product launched? It was launched in February, just 7 months ago. Most of their products refresh annually. What makes you think they've abandoned it?
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what do you mean "refresh annually". do you mean we should only be getting OS and firmware updates once a year???

Hardware.

I guess people think they abandoned it because the Tab S came out so quickly (4 months?) after the Tab PRO, and many vendors (at least in Canada) stopped selling the Tab PRO and switched to the Tab S.
Also, after NG1, firmware updates for the Tab PRO seem to have really dwindled. And yet, there are still quite a few outstanding issues with this tablet that need to be resolved...

I plan on selling my 8.4 pro as soon as nexus 9 comes out. I would have gotten a nexus 10 but I am not interested in an exynos.
Overall it is a nice tab, but battery life is quite poor. And I really don't like the game leather back. Fun while it lasted but Craigslist here it comes..

I'm glad the S came out and dropped the price of the Pro. I won't spend $400 on a tablet, so I never would've got this great tablet if the S never was released.
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HKSpeed said:
I'm glad the S came out and dropped the price of the Pro. I won't spend $400 on a tablet, so I never would've got this great tablet if the S never was released.
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Me too, i never should buy the pro 12.2 for +500 euro and last Sunday i got it for 329,75 euro brand new in the box, do we still here in the Netherlands have to pay a bit more than US or Canadian dollar?
I'm so happy with this huge Tab

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I'm happy too.
Bought the tabpro 8.4 for only 230 euro's, I also would never spend 300/400/500 on a tablet.
Size is excellent, battery for me lasts about 3 to 4 days on normal use and 2 days on heavier usage.
I use my Phone for a lot of things and in the evening sitting on the couch I use a tablet.
Facebook, Telegram, browsing,. asphalt 8, multiwindow it works great, no hickups. I did tweak the rom.
It does it all so why complain?:good:

I've been pretty happy with my Pro 8.4. It nicely compliments my Note 3 which has a tiny 5.7 inch screen!

Yeah, I'm seeing it for $279 in the U.S. More than $100 less than the Tab S. But I agree with the worry that it may not see an Android L update for example, despite being less than a year old. Samsung is slow to update. Took about 6 months to get 4.4 on my Note 10.1, and despite it still being a current model, I wouldn't be surprised if they never do L. I'm looking for a smaller tablet to replace a 1st-gen Nexus, but I think I'll keep waiting for the Nexus 9 before I jump.

I think we'll get Android L eventually. The Tab Pro is closely modeled after the Note 3, and that device is bound to get Android L. Although news came out today that Samsung transferred 500 engineers from the mobile division to the other areas (appliances and TVs?).

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I think we'll get Android L eventually. The Tab Pro is closely modeled after the Note 3, and that device is bound to get Android L. Although news came out today that Samsung transferred 500 engineers from the mobile division to the other areas (appliances and TVs?).
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the bolded bit doesn't really help you make your point in the underlined bit

I've been running CM11 since I got it, and I know there will be a CyanogenMod version of Android L so I'm not worried about it.

I just got mine for 230 euros! The Tab S is 400! What what WHAT!?
I'm sure Samsung will update sooner or later, but it's no longer their premium tablet, so... We shouldn't expect SPEEDY updates!

I just picked my Tap Pro 8.4 for 200 US dollars! Score!

I picked up my 8.4 LTE for £165 new off eBay, seller made a mistake wording the title.
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I just picked my Tap Pro 8.4 for 200 US dollars! Score!
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I did the same for a re-furb from Rakuten (Techbargains has the link).
As others have said, I hope this gets Android L. My goal is a 2-year life replacing my wife's 1st gen Nexus 7.

How do you guys like the 8.4"? In landscape mode, the buttons are where your hand would be. That seems like an issue if you wanted to play a game in landscape mode.

Tab S4 is coming

Looks like it could be upgrade time, (if the price is right of course.)
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/05/03/samsung-galaxy-tab-s4-passes-wifi-alliance-certification/
Who's tempted? :angel:
No mention of 8" version though :crying:

Only if my S2 dies. Right now it is running fine and meeting all of my needs. It's only 16 months old. Besides, given past experience the the introductory price will be too high.

I'm curious about new products because the current sale on S2 and S3 tablets seems to be a clearance.

I bought two more Tab S2s (T813s) just last month. Its more important to me to have the ability to run Lineage than the latest hardware. So no a Tab S4 really doesn't interest me unless I see some development for it. Based on how the other new Samsung phones / devices have been, I'm not holding my breath.

Bought my S2 in December 2015.
Still running perfectly fine.
Especially I like the very low weight which adds to the universal usability of this device.
Unfortunately the S4 will be significantly heavier, and NO other tablet in the 10" range with <400g weight is in sight... so I hope my S2 will work for another 2 years...

For me, most of my current T715 is fine, and has been for the last 2 years. On an 8" S4, (not that one exists,) I'd like the same form factor and weight, a new battery, SD835, always on FP sensor and 4GB ram.
Things like a glass back, facial recognition, increased weight, don't interest me.

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Looks like it could be upgrade time, (if the price is right of course.)
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/05/03/samsung-galaxy-tab-s4-passes-wifi-alliance-certification/
Who's tempted? :angel:
No mention of 8" version though :crying:
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its a no from me until they start putting the latest chipset on their tablet. I'm not paying premium price tag for last year chipset.

Was tempted but since no 8 so disregarded it. Tried to find availability of the Huawei 8.4 & found none. So got the S2; it is now 2 weeks. I use it for reading books & got it because Amazon had it for sale at $289 which pushed me over. My ASUS Zenpad S3 10 is very nice &, for me, much better than the iPad 9.7; but both are too "heavy" & awkward.
Also decided to resurrect my Tab Pro with the RRMix & have sent for a battery replacement since it was going down 30% in 24 hrs in sleep mode; think it is worst now & will see if the it remains the same when the battery arrives in 5 days.

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I bought two more Tab S2s (T813s) just last month. Its more important to me to have the ability to run Lineage than the latest hardware. So no a Tab S4 really doesn't interest me unless I see some development for it. Based on how the other new Samsung phones / devices have been, I'm not holding my breath.
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Man, how much did you pay for them? I want to pull the trigger on one so bad, but I just can't at the current prices, especially when they'll tank in a few months with the release of the S4...

had my tab for about 1.5 years,happy with it,i only stream football and read books,does the job

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Man, how much did you pay for them? I want to pull the trigger on one so bad, but I just can't at the current prices, especially when they'll tank in a few months with the release of the S4...
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I just checked both the ones I just bought were $349, both T813, the 9.7" ones. These last two were for my wife and son. I believe mine I actually picked up for $299, but that was back when the S3 had come out IIRC.
I bought one on Amazon for my son. Then when I decided I wanted a second one for my wife, they had already sold out, so I picked up a second one on eBay (it was new sealed).

My T813 is still running great, so I'm not really in the market for a tablet right now. Maybe, if the S3 drops in price sufficiently, I might upgrade to it to get the pen, but otherwise, I'm good.

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I just checked both the ones I just bought were $349, both T813, the 9.7" ones. These last two were for my wife and son. I believe mine I actually picked up for $299, but that was back when the S3 had come out IIRC.
I bought one on Amazon for my son. Then when I decided I wanted a second one for my wife, they had already sold out, so I picked up a second one on eBay (it was new sealed).
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In my country, Indonesia, secondhand Tab S2 9.7 will set you back Rp1.450.000,00 (which translates to around $105). But it has a caveat, the screen has shadow problem (but still, i can bear it for that kind of price!)

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In my country, Indonesia, secondhand Tab S2 9.7 will set you back Rp1.450.000,00 (which translates to around $105). But it has a caveat, the screen has shadow problem (but still, i can bear it for that kind of price!)
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Had I found any used ones for that price I might had considered it. In my area most people ask $300 for a used one. (Seriously, two in my area right now for sale, both $300) For the price it would be dumb not to buy a brand new one for only $50 more. These replaced our Nexus 7 (2013 models) which I did pick up 2 of the 3 used reasonably locally.

My play might be to wait for the eventual S3 price drop and pick one up to replace my 0G Tab S.

I'm just praying they will make a smaller model of S4. 16/9 would be a gift as well.

They need to give us an option priced equivalent to the 'normal' ipad and stop pretending that it can go head-to-head with the Pro line. Pen is nice and all but there's just not enough software to justify it.

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They need to give us an option priced equivalent to the 'normal' ipad and stop pretending that it can go head-to-head with the Pro line. Pen is nice and all but there's just not enough software to justify it.
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Yes, but this is Samsung, and they think they are the Apple of the Android world. Arguably, they shouldn't be charging iPhone money for the Galaxy S series either. My wife's 6S plus performs better than my S7 Edge in almost every way, to the point I have even considered getting her a new phone and taking her old one. The keyboard/app lag on the Galaxy devices is absurd for a device costing that much. Just texting from my device is an exercise in frustration compared to her phone or even my old HTC One M8.
The irony is that they could dramatically improve the performance of their devices by doing LESS. Drop TouchWiz, lightly skin AOSP, and maybe do a custom launcher. It's infuriating.

I like my 8" Tab S2 and my S7 Edge phone but my 10.5" iPad Pro blows away any Android device I've ever had (and I've had a lot since Android's intro). Outstanding performance and stability and a whole lot of very polished apps. iOS was difficult to adjust to but I've found ways to do anything I wanted to get done with a tablet. It would take something very special to get me to invest in a new Android tablet again (but I'll stick to Android phones and will continue to use the S2 Tab as a mini tablet).

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I like my 8" Tab S2 and my S7 Edge phone but my 10.5" iPad Pro blows away any Android device I've ever had (and I've had a lot since Android's intro). Outstanding performance and stability and a whole lot of very polished apps. iOS was difficult to adjust to but I've found ways to do anything I wanted to get done with a tablet. It would take something very special to get me to invest in a new Android tablet again (but I'll stick to Android phones and will continue to use the S2 Tab as a mini tablet).
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Agreed on iOS being slicker than Android. Unfortunately, that means buying into the Apple ecosystem, because anything "not Apple" is either not supported, or not supported well. In my case, I use Chromecast devices a lot, especially the Chromecast Audio. While there are a few apps for casting to them on iOS, none of them are great (save for VLC, which isn't iOS specific). The alternative would be to replace all those devices with AppleTVs, which would be prohibitively expensive at the moment.
Of course, I'm a power user, so iOS is a poor fit for me anyway. I like that I can setup impromptu servers to move files back and forth between my Android devices, that I can run a different launcher (almost invariably Nova launcher), etc. In fact, the biggest thing keeping me on Android is the fact that I can move files around trivially between devices or servers without having to deal with iTunes or some other app. Just trying to organize music, video, and e-books on my iPad was enough to make me switch to the Tab S2 in the first place.
Every time I get fed up with Android's quirks (or Samsung's quirks), or I pick up one of my family's iPads, I inevitably run into one of the limitations that made me go with Android in the first place.