Looks like it could be upgrade time, (if the price is right of course.)
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/05/03/samsung-galaxy-tab-s4-passes-wifi-alliance-certification/
Who's tempted? :angel:
No mention of 8" version though :crying:
Only if my S2 dies. Right now it is running fine and meeting all of my needs. It's only 16 months old. Besides, given past experience the the introductory price will be too high.
I'm curious about new products because the current sale on S2 and S3 tablets seems to be a clearance.
I bought two more Tab S2s (T813s) just last month. Its more important to me to have the ability to run Lineage than the latest hardware. So no a Tab S4 really doesn't interest me unless I see some development for it. Based on how the other new Samsung phones / devices have been, I'm not holding my breath.
Bought my S2 in December 2015.
Still running perfectly fine.
Especially I like the very low weight which adds to the universal usability of this device.
Unfortunately the S4 will be significantly heavier, and NO other tablet in the 10" range with <400g weight is in sight... so I hope my S2 will work for another 2 years...
For me, most of my current T715 is fine, and has been for the last 2 years. On an 8" S4, (not that one exists,) I'd like the same form factor and weight, a new battery, SD835, always on FP sensor and 4GB ram.
Things like a glass back, facial recognition, increased weight, don't interest me.
Masteryates said:
Looks like it could be upgrade time, (if the price is right of course.)
https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/05/03/samsung-galaxy-tab-s4-passes-wifi-alliance-certification/
Who's tempted? :angel:
No mention of 8" version though :crying:
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its a no from me until they start putting the latest chipset on their tablet. I'm not paying premium price tag for last year chipset.
Was tempted but since no 8 so disregarded it. Tried to find availability of the Huawei 8.4 & found none. So got the S2; it is now 2 weeks. I use it for reading books & got it because Amazon had it for sale at $289 which pushed me over. My ASUS Zenpad S3 10 is very nice &, for me, much better than the iPad 9.7; but both are too "heavy" & awkward.
Also decided to resurrect my Tab Pro with the RRMix & have sent for a battery replacement since it was going down 30% in 24 hrs in sleep mode; think it is worst now & will see if the it remains the same when the battery arrives in 5 days.
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I bought two more Tab S2s (T813s) just last month. Its more important to me to have the ability to run Lineage than the latest hardware. So no a Tab S4 really doesn't interest me unless I see some development for it. Based on how the other new Samsung phones / devices have been, I'm not holding my breath.
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Man, how much did you pay for them? I want to pull the trigger on one so bad, but I just can't at the current prices, especially when they'll tank in a few months with the release of the S4...
had my tab for about 1.5 years,happy with it,i only stream football and read books,does the job
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Man, how much did you pay for them? I want to pull the trigger on one so bad, but I just can't at the current prices, especially when they'll tank in a few months with the release of the S4...
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I just checked both the ones I just bought were $349, both T813, the 9.7" ones. These last two were for my wife and son. I believe mine I actually picked up for $299, but that was back when the S3 had come out IIRC.
I bought one on Amazon for my son. Then when I decided I wanted a second one for my wife, they had already sold out, so I picked up a second one on eBay (it was new sealed).
My T813 is still running great, so I'm not really in the market for a tablet right now. Maybe, if the S3 drops in price sufficiently, I might upgrade to it to get the pen, but otherwise, I'm good.
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I just checked both the ones I just bought were $349, both T813, the 9.7" ones. These last two were for my wife and son. I believe mine I actually picked up for $299, but that was back when the S3 had come out IIRC.
I bought one on Amazon for my son. Then when I decided I wanted a second one for my wife, they had already sold out, so I picked up a second one on eBay (it was new sealed).
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In my country, Indonesia, secondhand Tab S2 9.7 will set you back Rp1.450.000,00 (which translates to around $105). But it has a caveat, the screen has shadow problem (but still, i can bear it for that kind of price!)
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In my country, Indonesia, secondhand Tab S2 9.7 will set you back Rp1.450.000,00 (which translates to around $105). But it has a caveat, the screen has shadow problem (but still, i can bear it for that kind of price!)
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Had I found any used ones for that price I might had considered it. In my area most people ask $300 for a used one. (Seriously, two in my area right now for sale, both $300) For the price it would be dumb not to buy a brand new one for only $50 more. These replaced our Nexus 7 (2013 models) which I did pick up 2 of the 3 used reasonably locally.
My play might be to wait for the eventual S3 price drop and pick one up to replace my 0G Tab S.
I'm just praying they will make a smaller model of S4. 16/9 would be a gift as well.
They need to give us an option priced equivalent to the 'normal' ipad and stop pretending that it can go head-to-head with the Pro line. Pen is nice and all but there's just not enough software to justify it.
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They need to give us an option priced equivalent to the 'normal' ipad and stop pretending that it can go head-to-head with the Pro line. Pen is nice and all but there's just not enough software to justify it.
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Yes, but this is Samsung, and they think they are the Apple of the Android world. Arguably, they shouldn't be charging iPhone money for the Galaxy S series either. My wife's 6S plus performs better than my S7 Edge in almost every way, to the point I have even considered getting her a new phone and taking her old one. The keyboard/app lag on the Galaxy devices is absurd for a device costing that much. Just texting from my device is an exercise in frustration compared to her phone or even my old HTC One M8.
The irony is that they could dramatically improve the performance of their devices by doing LESS. Drop TouchWiz, lightly skin AOSP, and maybe do a custom launcher. It's infuriating.
I like my 8" Tab S2 and my S7 Edge phone but my 10.5" iPad Pro blows away any Android device I've ever had (and I've had a lot since Android's intro). Outstanding performance and stability and a whole lot of very polished apps. iOS was difficult to adjust to but I've found ways to do anything I wanted to get done with a tablet. It would take something very special to get me to invest in a new Android tablet again (but I'll stick to Android phones and will continue to use the S2 Tab as a mini tablet).
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I like my 8" Tab S2 and my S7 Edge phone but my 10.5" iPad Pro blows away any Android device I've ever had (and I've had a lot since Android's intro). Outstanding performance and stability and a whole lot of very polished apps. iOS was difficult to adjust to but I've found ways to do anything I wanted to get done with a tablet. It would take something very special to get me to invest in a new Android tablet again (but I'll stick to Android phones and will continue to use the S2 Tab as a mini tablet).
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Agreed on iOS being slicker than Android. Unfortunately, that means buying into the Apple ecosystem, because anything "not Apple" is either not supported, or not supported well. In my case, I use Chromecast devices a lot, especially the Chromecast Audio. While there are a few apps for casting to them on iOS, none of them are great (save for VLC, which isn't iOS specific). The alternative would be to replace all those devices with AppleTVs, which would be prohibitively expensive at the moment.
Of course, I'm a power user, so iOS is a poor fit for me anyway. I like that I can setup impromptu servers to move files back and forth between my Android devices, that I can run a different launcher (almost invariably Nova launcher), etc. In fact, the biggest thing keeping me on Android is the fact that I can move files around trivially between devices or servers without having to deal with iTunes or some other app. Just trying to organize music, video, and e-books on my iPad was enough to make me switch to the Tab S2 in the first place.
Every time I get fed up with Android's quirks (or Samsung's quirks), or I pick up one of my family's iPads, I inevitably run into one of the limitations that made me go with Android in the first place.
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I know I can't be the only one out there. I'm just really unsure about the Note's size... I'm a tall guy, with big hands, but its just seems that bit too big?
Mind you, I've been using my Tab 7.0 as a phone for a good 3 weeks!
Is it really usable with one hand? By that I mean, can I fire off a quick text with one hand? If its a yes, I'll order it now!
Thanks for anything useful you have to say!
I'm in the same situation like you!
I'm currently with AT&T at the moment, wondering if I should sell my iPhone 4S (only reason I got it was because of its high resale value) to buy a Note to use, or wait until the Nexus comes to Verizon and sell my iPhone and use that money for the Nexus.
I really like the size of the Note and would love to use it during school, but I kind of want to see how the Nexus looks in real life first before making my decision.
I would also rather be on Verizon's network to be honest, with it's double data promotion helping its case even more.
Im thinking I may just go for the nexus now, I've not had a pure android yet (from stock) and it looks fluid as anything! IMO Touchwiz slows down Android (I own both the Tab and original Galaxy S).
Still can't seem to click buy on either though!
Let me just say that I had the same concerns, so much so that I was determined to wait until I played with the Note before ordering it. I went ahead and took the chance and I am VERY pleased. The phone does not feel nearly as big as you might thing. I think it is very comfortable to use, fits in all my pockets, and is an absolute pleasure to have. I guarantee you will not regret buying the Note. Just read the other reviews.
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Let me just say that I had the same concerns, so much so that I was determined to wait until I played with the Note before ordering it. I went ahead and took the chance and I am VERY pleased. The phone does not feel nearly as big as you might thing. I think it is very comfortable to use, fits in all my pockets, and is an absolute pleasure to have. I guarantee you will not regret buying the Note. Just read the other reviews.
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I'm not worried about pockets, my 7.0 tab fits in my pockets! I just thought.... If I buy this I can sell my Tab and put that towards this, as it'll replace it anyway!
I'll sell my tab on eBay me thinks!
EDIT: Tab in the marketplace, once thats sold, I will be buying note. Just found out that Nexus uses a poor GPU. I know its twice the speed of Galaxy S, but I'd rather have samsungs latest chip!
I just ordered a white Note from eBay. The way I look at it, an Aosp ICS rom will come eventually. Then you have the option be it Aosp, MIUI, or Touchwiz. And if one doesn't come fast enough, use the Note then sell it when the Nexus is available to you. I have an HTC right now and I switch between Aosp and Sense and its nice to have the choice.
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Here are a couple of Nexus deal breakers for me.
Only 16GB of storage, on my 16GB Note only 11GB is usable, the rest are reserved for OS and apps. This limit my music files to 128 kbps and with 1GB of storage left. Also the 32GB Nexus is not available yet, and I'm not sure I want to pay premium price for a 16GB upgrade when 32GB micro sd card are around £40.
The 16:9 screen makes the phone easier to hold but awkward when browsing the web in portrait mode.
Also the processor and graphic chip are weaker than the Note, so not the best phone out there for future proof.
The only selling point of Nexus compared to the Note is ICS, which will be on the Note either from Samsung or developers. After almost two weeks of using the Note, I found the performance very smooth, so not in a hurry to upgrade to ICS.
Unless you really want an ICS device, I'd get the Note. I'm sure you will happier with the Note few months down the line when both devices have ICS.
P.S. Typing with one hand is awkward at best, and you are risking drop the phone while doing it.
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Here are a couple of Nexus deal breakers for me.
Only 16GB of storage, on my 16GB Note only 11GB is usable, the rest are reserved for OS and apps. This limit my music files to 128 kbps and with 1GB of storage left. Also the 32GB Nexus is not available yet, and I'm not sure I want to pay premium price for a 16GB upgrade when 32GB micro sd card are around £40.
The 16:9 screen makes the phone easier to hold but awkward when browsing the web in portrait mode.
Also the processor and graphic chip are weaker than the Note, so not the best phone out there for future proof.
The only selling point of Nexus compared to the Note is ICS, which will be on the Note either from Samsung or developers. After almost two weeks of using the Note, I found the performance very smooth, so not in a hurry to upgrade to ICS.
Unless you really want an ICS device, I'd get the Note. I'm sure you will happier with the Note few months down the line when both devices have ICS.
P.S. Typing with one hand is awkward at best, and you are risking drop the phone while doing it.
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You couldn't have summed it up any better! I'll probably order of Amazon.de tomorrow morn.
Portability
This device is more portable than a tab.
Think of it not as a phone, or a tab, but an XDA(convergent digital assistant)
I would not even consider a tab (or a laptop).
I have a workstation, and an XDA.
Have so for nearly 10 years.
The note is particularly portable and useful.
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You couldn't have summed it up any better! I'll probably order of Amazon.de tomorrow morn.
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You are welcome, Amazon.de normally ship the phone out the next working day and it will take two more days for delivery via CityLink.
Also CityLink web tracking might tell you the phone will arrive the next working day after Amazon has shipped the Note. Don't belive them and don't panic when the tracking don't get updated for the 1st 24hrs.
Xaddict said:
This device is more portable than a tab.
Think of it not as a phone, or a tab, but an XDA(convergent digital assistant)
I would not even consider a tab (or a laptop).
I have a workstation, and an XDA.
Have so for nearly 10 years.
The note is particularly portable and useful.
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I'm looking forward to a stylus! As much as Jobs hated them, you can't beat them for accuracy. Web browsing was easier on my 2.8" screen on my HTC Diamond thanks to a stylus!
I was thinking of getting the nexus too but no sd card slot is poo, but I will be getting the note as soon it's available in white in the uk
Anyone know of any UK sites selling white ones?
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I was thinking of getting the nexus too but no sd card slot is poo, but I will be getting the note as soon it's available in white in the uk
Anyone know of any UK sites selling white ones?
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I'd be interested in that too.
Although unless its >£500 I'll stick with black.
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I'd be interested in that too.
Although unless its >£500 I'll stick with black.
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All I found is this £539.99 with no date http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/5864/samsung-galaxy-note--16gb--sim-free-unlocked--white-
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All I found is this £539.99 with no date http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/5864/samsung-galaxy-note--16gb--sim-free-unlocked--white-
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I suppose I could claim the VAT back.... If its not in the next few days I might have to give the white one a miss
I'm in the same boat as you. I've been mulling over this decision for about 2 weeks at least
Here's my pros and cons, and these are too me, a US AT&T user still in contract:
Note Pros:
- Screen
- CPU
- Battery
- Staying with AT&T
Cons:
- Importing and Warranty
- No ICS yet. This is big as it looks like exchange support is greatly improved there, and I'd like to ditch Touchdown
I don't consider the stylus much of a pro personally - I don't think I'll use it
Nexus Pros:
- Vanilla ICS
- NFC
- LTE sim swap with my Xoom (this is kinda minor, as WiFi hotspot is basically the same except that I can conserve my phone's battery if I were to go on a road trip)
- Better dev and app support because it will be more popular
Nexus Cons:
- very worried about battery life with LTE. I'd hope to go data only too, so I'd have GooVe IP signed in all the time.
- smaller screen, though it might be OK as I've had a Dell Streak and so many apps don't deal with gigantic screens very well.
- maybe slightly worse camera from my investigations
I probably should just buy the Note and be done with it, but I want to see what Verizon's off contract price is. if it's $600 that's hard to then justify getting a Note for around $750 I think. $650-700 will be a note autobuy I think... then again my ETF would be around $150, but going data only will save in the long run, but not sure if I can reliably recieve calls on GrooVe IP... meh... decisions.
There IS a simple solution........... JUST GET BOTH !!!
It is what I am doing....... can't help myself
Nothing touches Galaxy Note on the market IMO. Engadget just did a hands-on test of the Galaxy Nexus and here's something they mention in their article:
It's still too early to comment on battery life, but so far we're not seeing any issues. While the Nexus feels quite snappy it isn't as mind bendingly fast as some Gingerbread devices (the Galaxy Note comes to mind)
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The Note is a superior platform--bigger display, S-pen functionality, faster CPU, faster GPU. Why would anyone outside a developer want a Nexus? ICS is coming to our phone so there's no advantage there. People argue Touchwiz adds a layer of lag and I disagree, my phone with 2.3.6 gingerbread is lightning fast and I never see any lag.
where can I get the 2.3.6 version? I tried to update my phone but it said my phone was all updated.
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Nothing touches Galaxy Note on the market IMO. Engadget just did a hands-on test of the Galaxy Nexus and here's something they mention in their article:
The Note is a superior platform--bigger display, S-pen functionality, faster CPU, faster GPU. Why would anyone outside a developer want a Nexus? ICS is coming to our phone so there's no advantage there. People argue Touchwiz adds a layer of lag and I disagree, my phone with 2.3.6 gingerbread is lightning fast and I never see any lag.
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Agree with everything you said. I've been doing my research on both since I had been going back and forth on what phone I really wanted and even went with just the AT&T GS2 for a few days but in the end both the GS2 and Nexus both are inferior devices to what the Note offers and outside of getting ICS early I can't see any reason to buy the Nexus unless you just need a smaller phone. I'd rather wait and get ICS shortly down the road than to get it a few weeks earlier on lesser hardware.
I had the original 7.0 tab and I loved the size and portability.
Since then I've sold it, got the Note (which is awesome). I hoped that it would replace the tab, but I've noticed I've been reaching for my laptop much more than I ever did with my Tab.
Also with MWC just round the corner I'm thinking I should wait?
Another quick question, now that it has a resolution 1280x800 does that mean websites now load properly?
Thanks, Ben.
I have a Note and got the 7.7 too. Great combo in my opinion. I have tried for 3 days to run out the battery and still haven't. This is the best tablet made I think.
The build quality is what surprised me. It feels so solid, really premium.
I'd buy if I were you. I don't see anything this size to top it anytime soon.
Got to go ahead and get you one...
I for one last year had a P1000 too & sold it to someone who chouldnt believe 'they' came up with a 7 inch phone.....
Then I got the Note..
And Ive noticed that many many folks on here ALSo have the GNote too..
Big screens rule!! You have 1 or 2 at home always on always watching..
you may as well have 1 or 2 in your pocket as well...
I carry my Gnote in my front pocket..
I did carry my P1000 in the same pocket too..
I just got the 7.7 yesterday and test fitted it in my pocket,,..
It Fits!!!
ZGo get you one.. You know you like big screens.. TV's and Phones...
PS.. What is MWC???
MWC= mobile world congress 2012 barcelona. One of the biggest phone shows. Leaning more to phones than Cebit, Ifa or Ces.
It is from 27.02.12 to 06.03.12 i think
I have a few SGS2s running CM9, have had P1000 which was great and I sold it, had both 8.9 and 10.1 for short periods and missed the phone call capability. Bought a P6200 on the expectation of selling it to buy a P6800 when it ships (the 3G P6800 is just not available yet in the UK, except as a Far East import which doesn't appeal). So I'd got my head straight and knew what I wanted to end up with....then I read today about the new 11.6 and it's 2560x1600 resolution screen...no word whether it'll support normal phone capability though.
I honestly do wish Samsung would stop announcing products that then don't ship for 9-10 months, where the product lifecycle is only about 18 months anyway they're just hurting themselves....expectation doesn't hold for 9 months when you then announce the next iteration.
Instead if they announced products and shipped them no later then 90 days later I think their sales would rise quite dramatically.
Ho Hum....I suppose it matters not what I wish for, just means I won't be buying the P6800 now will instead use the P6200 till my next upgrade.
Haha OP check my sig...Note and 7.7
I think the new iPad and especially the mini are going to really choke out the premium tablet segment. They are going to sell huge, especially with the timing with holidays.
I will not be surprised to see a price drop of at least $50 next month or early December. That is when I would get the 2014
My concern though is this would force the Android tablets further into the lower end segments that could mean middle road specs. ASUS might be selling the new 701 into a market segment that has very small remaining share. That assumes they get the Tegra 4 to behave as far as battery bleed and throttle issues.
Point in this being Apple will sell millions while Android OEs selling premium Android tablets would sell thousands due to small market share.
Its already gone from £479 to £439 on Amazon.co.uk.
It was £100 overpriced to start off with especially with a plastic exterior.
I was so ready to purchase this and have money burning a hole in my pocket. Already own an ipad min, ipad 4, nexus 7 2013 and wanted a full size Android tablet.
Considered the Z until its completely rubbish ppi screen was detailed and then eagerly waited the Note. Was extremelydis appointed in the build quality and design but more more horrified at the price. Will be waiting for news on the Nexus 10 whilst also buying an ipad air and retina mini.
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Its already gone from £479 to £439 on Amazon.co.uk.
It was £100 overpriced to start off with especially with a plastic exterior.
I was so ready to purchase this and have money burning a hole in my pocket. Already own an ipad min, ipad 4, nexus 7 2013 and wanted a full size Android tablet.
Considered the Z until its completely rubbish ppi screen was detailed and then eagerly waited the Note. Was extremelydis appointed in the build quality and design but more more horrified at the price. Will be waiting for news on the Nexus 10 whilst also buying an ipad air and retina mini.
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May I ask what you do with all of those tablets? Or are you just getting rid of the old (relatively speaking) ones once you buy a new one?
some of us are just collectors, lol. i do resell some or pass them down to other family members. since 2010 i've had a total 21 tablets and currently own a 2014, gn8, 500t, and 700t. the 500t is going to my daughter once i get around to repair the screen - it's the only tablet i ever bought insurance on and the only one i've ever dropped, lol.
the 8in is my main book reader, the 10.1 is my main web/multimedia tablet and the windows tablets i got as an experiment to see if i could do without a laptop (even though they're kinda laptop hybrids) and to see if i could do without android - i failed that miserably lol.
I just hope the iPad mini's price will drop. I love it but i can't afford to buy it.
I don't think the price of this tablet will drop much before the end of this year after the Samsung Perks package expires.
I am in need of a new tablet and the 2014 note 10.1 was going to be that device but the reviews and user experiences have swayed me away. I might reconsider if the price drops but with new devices like the ipad air/mini released and the upcoming nexus 10, the choices have become relatively overwhelming.
I am heavily invested in the android ecosystem with apps and games so warranting a switch to the "dark side" may be hard. Although the design and tablet specific apps are tempting. It seems like a good combination to have, I just dont want to have to re-purchase apps on ios and android. Anybody have this combinationof devices?
I think the nexus 10 is calling my name and I will most likely end up with it assuming the bugs and issues present on the first gen dont make there way to the 2nd gen.
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Looks like a drop has already happened. Price went from $600/$650 to $550/$600 at Amazon & Best Buy.
As far as the Nexus, a lack of sd slot keeps me away. I only have the iPad since I could get 64GB for the iPad 3 and now have a 128GB iPad 4. Media and games are too big for smaller storage and I HATE the cloud. Local content has "100% data coverage and range" and better on battery life.
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Looks like a drop has already happened. Price went from $600/$650 to $550/$600 at Amazon & Best Buy.
As far as the Nexus, a lack of sd slot keeps me away. I only have the iPad since I could get 64GB for the iPad 3 and now have a 128GB iPad 4. Media and games are too big for smaller storage and I HATE the cloud. Local content has "100% data coverage and range" and better on battery life.
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$550/600 was the starting price. No price drop yet...
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$550/600 was the starting price. No price drop yet...
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Dope! :silly: So in my mind, there already was one
This tablet is actually worth the money being asked for it, so you can wait to watch the prices drop or just buy it.
The original note 10.1 was 16 gigabytes was 499 when it debuted 1 year ago. Now the second generation came outand original drooped to 450. The note 10.1 very is unique and has no direct competition as in capacitive pen.
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Yeah, I wouldn't expect a price drop any time soon... maybe in 6 months at best. It took the Note 8 about 6 months to drop a whopping $20, lol. Samsung is pretty stubborn with their pricing.
This reminds me of what Sammie did with the P6800 a couple of years back when they abandoned the P6800 withing a year of it's launch.
As there looks like there will never be a 32gb 8.4 Pro and there isn't currently a 32gb 8.4 S I'm sitting on the fence.
I have to say Sammies constant morass of new products without anything approaching a coherent product replacement cycle, combined with their lack of support in 'walking away' from existing relatively new products does mean I think hard before spending money on their tabs.
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This reminds me of what Sammie did with the P6800 a couple of years back when they abandoned the P6800 withing a year of it's launch.
As there looks like there will never be a 32gb 8.4 Pro and there isn't currently a 32gb 8.4 S I'm sitting on the fence.
I have to say Sammies constant morass of new products without anything approaching a coherent product replacement cycle, combined with their lack of support in 'walking away' from existing relatively new products does mean I think hard before spending money on their tabs.
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Its sad, considering I still see tab pros in shops etc.
are there any new features software wise that is in Tab S ?
Are you expecting Samsung to update the Pro less than a year after the product launched? It was launched in February, just 7 months ago. Most of their products refresh annually. What makes you think they've abandoned it?
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Are you expecting Samsung to update the Pro less than a year after the product launched? It was launched in February, just 7 months ago. Most of their products refresh annually. What makes you think they've abandoned it?
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what do you mean "refresh annually". do you mean we should only be getting OS and firmware updates once a year???
Hardware.
I guess people think they abandoned it because the Tab S came out so quickly (4 months?) after the Tab PRO, and many vendors (at least in Canada) stopped selling the Tab PRO and switched to the Tab S.
Also, after NG1, firmware updates for the Tab PRO seem to have really dwindled. And yet, there are still quite a few outstanding issues with this tablet that need to be resolved...
I plan on selling my 8.4 pro as soon as nexus 9 comes out. I would have gotten a nexus 10 but I am not interested in an exynos.
Overall it is a nice tab, but battery life is quite poor. And I really don't like the game leather back. Fun while it lasted but Craigslist here it comes..
I'm glad the S came out and dropped the price of the Pro. I won't spend $400 on a tablet, so I never would've got this great tablet if the S never was released.
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I'm glad the S came out and dropped the price of the Pro. I won't spend $400 on a tablet, so I never would've got this great tablet if the S never was released.
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Me too, i never should buy the pro 12.2 for +500 euro and last Sunday i got it for 329,75 euro brand new in the box, do we still here in the Netherlands have to pay a bit more than US or Canadian dollar?
I'm so happy with this huge Tab
happy here
I'm happy too.
Bought the tabpro 8.4 for only 230 euro's, I also would never spend 300/400/500 on a tablet.
Size is excellent, battery for me lasts about 3 to 4 days on normal use and 2 days on heavier usage.
I use my Phone for a lot of things and in the evening sitting on the couch I use a tablet.
Facebook, Telegram, browsing,. asphalt 8, multiwindow it works great, no hickups. I did tweak the rom.
It does it all so why complain?:good:
I've been pretty happy with my Pro 8.4. It nicely compliments my Note 3 which has a tiny 5.7 inch screen!
Yeah, I'm seeing it for $279 in the U.S. More than $100 less than the Tab S. But I agree with the worry that it may not see an Android L update for example, despite being less than a year old. Samsung is slow to update. Took about 6 months to get 4.4 on my Note 10.1, and despite it still being a current model, I wouldn't be surprised if they never do L. I'm looking for a smaller tablet to replace a 1st-gen Nexus, but I think I'll keep waiting for the Nexus 9 before I jump.
I think we'll get Android L eventually. The Tab Pro is closely modeled after the Note 3, and that device is bound to get Android L. Although news came out today that Samsung transferred 500 engineers from the mobile division to the other areas (appliances and TVs?).
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I think we'll get Android L eventually. The Tab Pro is closely modeled after the Note 3, and that device is bound to get Android L. Although news came out today that Samsung transferred 500 engineers from the mobile division to the other areas (appliances and TVs?).
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the bolded bit doesn't really help you make your point in the underlined bit
I've been running CM11 since I got it, and I know there will be a CyanogenMod version of Android L so I'm not worried about it.
I just got mine for 230 euros! The Tab S is 400! What what WHAT!?
I'm sure Samsung will update sooner or later, but it's no longer their premium tablet, so... We shouldn't expect SPEEDY updates!
I just picked my Tap Pro 8.4 for 200 US dollars! Score!
I picked up my 8.4 LTE for £165 new off eBay, seller made a mistake wording the title.
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I just picked my Tap Pro 8.4 for 200 US dollars! Score!
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I did the same for a re-furb from Rakuten (Techbargains has the link).
As others have said, I hope this gets Android L. My goal is a 2-year life replacing my wife's 1st gen Nexus 7.
How do you guys like the 8.4"? In landscape mode, the buttons are where your hand would be. That seems like an issue if you wanted to play a game in landscape mode.
So I bought my Tab S2 about two weeks ago (and am going to return it).
Rumors are saying the Tab S3, the true update to the S2 (not the 2016 S2 I bought) will be announced on September 1 along with the Gear S3 watch. This is shortly after the Note 7 is announced.
Let's post here as details become available. Everything for now is just rumors.
The rumor I'm hoping comes true is that is has the processor from the S7. That is a beast and huge upgrade over the S2's dated note 4 processor.
I hope its true, since i have 30 day to return my 2016 S2, i might consider going for the new model due to the new cpu.
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I hope its true, since i have 30 day to return my 2016 S2, i might consider going for the new model due to the new cpu.
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New ones always launch about $150 more than their predecessors.
The way I think of it, the Tab S is the Galaxy S5, the Tab S2 is the Galaxy S6, and the Tab S3 will be the Galaxy S7.
Usually leaks begin months before an official announcement. The Tab S2 was announced in Jul 15 but the form factor and dimensions were leaked way back in Feb. I think it this were true we would have more details by now.
In any case, I doubt Samsung is going to go with such a high-end SOC for a tablet, but hopefully I will be wrong.
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New ones always launch about $150 more than their predecessors.
The way I think of it, the Tab S is the Galaxy S5, the Tab S2 is the Galaxy S6, and the Tab S3 will be the Galaxy S7.
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I bought the 2016 S2 as well 3 weeks ago...but got an open box for $225....so I cant complain... I went through every Note in the series tablet and phone... and I love this thing I do miss the S Pen. Samsung is throwing out a lot of buggy stuff in the last two years though.. thank God for root because because I fixed everything that way.. I definitely want to the Note 7!
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For the price (I paid $299 for the 8.0 WiFi version of the 2016 S2), I wasn't going to wait. I'm absolutely pleased with the 2016 S2, I can finally "stick" with an Android Tablet (tried so many, always went back to iPad Mini). I doubt there will be much "lift" from a refreshed Tab S3 -- the usual faster processor, maybe better camera, but in day to day, it's probably marginal benefit. The one thing you will most certainly get is a faster update to Nougat.
I believe it's highly unlikely there will be a S3 this year with a recently released refresh. All of the rumor sites list the specs of the refresh and the model number I've seen references the 9.7 LTE refresh (sm t819).
Additionally the release cycle for the Galaxy Tab S series seems to consistently launch in the summer, with the refresh released this summer I out the chances of seeing a Tab S3 between zero and nil.
I paid $340 at Costco for the T813 (9.7") and it came with the Samsung book cover ($70 on Sammys website), so it was definitely a good deal. This recent price drop makes me think they are clearing out the last model in anticipation of the new one. Costco is where that 90 day return comes from, so I'll be unrooting and going back to stock before returning if the s3 is announced.
Bringing it out early September seems to make sense to be with the recent releases if you throw in the 2016 refresh, which held them over a little longer.
I don't see the S2 as being in line with the S6, its really just a big Note 4 (sans S-pen). So maybe we get a Note 5 for the S3. That's a decent upgrade on the processor and probably worth it to me.
I guess there is always something better around the corner. I just hate to be the sucker that helped the clear out last years model right before something better comes out, and makes the S2 drop even further in price. It's like buying a Note 5 right now. It'll be outdated and cheaper here soon....
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I just hate to be the sucker that helped the clear out last years model right before something better comes out, and makes the S2 drop even further in price. It's like buying a Note 5 right now. It'll be outdated and cheaper here soon....
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The model T813 was released in April (3 months ago). That's hardly being the sucker that bought last years model right before the new model came out. Now if you bought a T810 I could go with that, but you bought a brand new model. Same case and aesthetics, new processor/GPU, higher performance in benchmarks, and is arguably already the best Android tablet. I understand wanting the latest and greatest, which is why I bought the T713. That said there's nothing about an FCC filing yet, the sites that mention the FCC filing are all mistakenly identifying the T819 as a Tab S3 and not a refreshed Tab S2 LTE, no announcement from Samsung. Once there is an announcement from Samsung the wait timer starts, which typically is a 3 month wait (June/July announcement typically results in a September release).
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I don't see the S2 as being in line with the S6, its really just a big Note 4 (sans S-pen).
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I do, in terms of release cycle.
S5 (Tab S1) is great but has some things wrong with it.
S6 (Tab S2) removes some features that were loved about the S5 but still overall a better device.
S7 (Tab S3...?) adds back everything that people hated being removed from the S6 (in the Tab case, maybe the S3 will have a 16:10 screen...? who knows)
Give us a new Note 8.
better accu? when I wach youtube with my 8.0 tab the accu I can't enjoy all the day (or even 8 hours) of my nice tab
Some differences in the new 2016 refresh:
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/04/12/samsung-just-released-an-updated-galaxy-tab-s2-with-improved-performance/
Some differences in the SD 652 vs SD 820:
http://www.androidauthority.com/snapdragon-652-vs-802-whats-difference-686684/
I believe they moved to this CPU because it's cheaper to make. It's on the older 28nm process, which they probably have excess capacity on. It gives them more profit and ability to close out old stock without losing as much or at least cutting into profit less. To me the biggest difference is that the GPU is less capable. I would wait unless you're trying to get a good tablet and can't afford to drop $500+. Then it's still a great tablet if you're getting it for under $350 IMHO.
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Some differences in the new 2016 refresh:
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/04/12...ated-galaxy-tab-s2-with-improved-performance/
Some differences in the SD 652 vs SD 820:
http://www.androidauthority.com/snapdragon-652-vs-802-whats-difference-686684/
I believe they moved to this CPU because it's cheaper to make. It's on the older 28nm process, which they probably have excess capacity on. It gives them more profit and ability to close out old stock without losing as much or at least cutting into profit less. To me the biggest difference is that the GPU is less capable. I would wait unless you're trying to get a good tablet and can't afford to drop $500+. Then it's still a great tablet if you're getting it for under $350 IMHO.
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As I stated earlier in this thread, the new refresh model gpu is garbage comparing to last years's models. I am not a gamer and the light games I do play stutter and drop frames while last year's model played all these games at full frame rate without frame drops or stuttering.
So I agree with the above that Samsung probably used this soc in the 2016 models to save on costs.
Hopefully there will be an tab s3 this year.
Maybe the 713/813 and 719/819 are the new Tab S3. I just noticed in Samsung's list of Knox-supported devices the T813 is listed under Samsung Galaxy Tab S3!!!
It is a PDF file I downloaded from Samsung, I can't remember the link.
Edit: here it is! https://www.samsungknox.com/knoxportal/files/GalaxyDevicesSupportingKNOX.pdf
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Maybe the 713/813 and 719/819 are the new Tab S3. I just noticed in Samsung's list of Knox-supported devices the T813 is listed under Samsung Galaxy Tab S3!!!
It is a PDF file I downloaded from Samsung, I can't remember the link.
Edit: here it is! https://www.samsungknox.com/knoxportal/files/GalaxyDevicesSupportingKNOX.pdf
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I have the SM-T719 and the box says Tab S2 (it is the Qcom processor model w 6.0.1)
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I have the SM-T719 and the box says Tab S2 (it is the Qcom processor model w 6.0.1)
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The point is Samsung slipped up and called it the Tab S3 internally. Regardless what it says on our boxes these models may be the ones they're planning on shipping in new boxes and calling them Tab S3.
I don't see a reason to release a S3 a couple months after a refresh. Just doesn't make sense at all. The S2 2016 is $350 for 8", that's a far cry from trying to clean out inventory price, and once again, would be pointless to do so soon...
Yes, I got my 713 for $175 (after CB), due to the price mistake, but I also waited 5 weeks to receive it, with clear warning that replacements within return window isn't happening. Only a 15% restocking fee if you return it. I love this tablet though! I've had a N7 2013 that is on its death bed. Going from a 1800 sunspider score to 580 is pretty darn noticeable!
Also, why would anyone return their 713 and 813, especially if you got a deal for the S2... THE opportunity cost is negligible. Spending a $150 more to get 15% speed bump would be a dimwitted move. Especially if you're mostly doing light gaming, reading, and email. That's why tablet sales are so bad, you don't need to update nearly as often as your smartphone, because you're doing significantly less with it! Honestly, even that is pointless, my N6 keeps up with everything I throw at it...
My N7 I wholeheartedly believe would still been fast enough for everyday use if it wasn't for the age and thousands of hours chugged on that CPU and RAM. This S2 destroys that tablet in specs, that's why it would be so unadvisable to forfeit all that money for barely an upgrade!
Just my logical 2 cents...
Agreed. These new models are a rockin' deal. The 8 incher wifi was 299 and I paid 399 for the 9.7. Totally ok with the price and value.
Another thing that makes me think there won't be a Tab S3 so soon (apart from the obvious lack of any evidence so far) is that it would make sense for Samsung to release their next flagship tablet on Android Nougat from day one and that's not going to be possible for a long while.