I'm considering upgrading to this phone from the OnePlus 5T since it checks off all my boxes. Only thing I'm worried about is the actual performance of the chip. I don't do much with the phone and the most intense thing I do is probably play Real Racing 3. Will this be an issue?
While on this topic, is it actually an upgrade from my 5T? The camera performance is surely better but thanks to the Google Camera, photos are pretty good with the 5T too.
Actually, the Snapdragon 730 performs better in benchmarks than the 835. So it should be at least equal there.
But this phone is heavy compared to 5T, with case it gets bulkier. Gaming performance is good, camera is bad. If you're coming from oneplus series, better buy oneplus again IMO. They are compact devices with better OS and cameras.
Camera is bad... or maybe the guy behind the camera xD It's one of the best in the phone market but yes it's bad compare to a Canon SLR camera !
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But this phone is heavy compared to 5T, with case it gets bulkier. Gaming performance is good, camera is bad. If you're coming from oneplus series, better buy oneplus again IMO. They are compact devices with better OS and cameras.
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i +1 to this, the camera is terrible and you better go with a newer oneplus.
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Camera is bad... or maybe the guy behind the camera xD It's one of the best in the phone market but yes it's bad compare to a Canon SLR camera !
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no, for a normal phone camera is terrible, for now even gcam can`t save it. you dont need to compare to a SLR to see the bad quality.
and its one of the best MID RANGER phone, not even close to any of the best phones, chill
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i +1 to this, the camera is terrible and you better go with a newer oneplus.
no, for a normal phone camera is terrible, for now even gcam can`t save it. you dont need to compare to a SLR to see the bad quality.
and its one of the best MID RANGER phone, not even close to any of the best phones, chill
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You seem to have very high standards when it comes to the camera. Imho the phone takes great pictures in good lighting conditions. For low light gcam is the way to go. Yes, it's not as good as the flagships out there but we are talking budget here.
The 9T is an upgrade from the OnePlus 7 - I just came from the 7 to the 9T.
OK, so the 9T isn't quite as fast, but there's barely anything in it - I don't game, but all other apps launch and run great on the 730. The screen is better on the 9T, the cameras are pretty much the same, battery is better. Loss of stereo speakers isn't a massive problem for me as the 9T's speaker is good, and I still use a wired headphone so no dongle is a bonus.
You won't regret buying compared to the 1+5T.
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You seem to have very high standards when it comes to the camera. Imho the phone takes great pictures in good lighting conditions. For low light gcam is the way to go. Yes, it's not as good as the flagships out there but we are talking budget here.
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Wait what if they have blurry camera effect like MKBHD's unit lol
i've changed from oneplus 6 to mi9t, i had an amazon warranty refund for oneplus 6, so best of all is that i spent 350€ for 128gb mi9t and amazon refunded 540€ for oneplus 6.
phone itself was mostly an update even if had not spent less than refund, i haven't tried it for long time so something could be untested (like recording audio)
screen: mi 9t>op6
camera: little better for op6 in low light and 4k 60fps videos (but didn't use the, so much, too much space) mostly they seem to be on par (i have to test much more)
battery: mi 9t>op6
fingerprint: mi 9t mostly better, you don't have to "take" the phone or digit pin if it's on a table, just a little slower, but difference is less than half a second
speaker: seems quite louder, quality seems very similar
phone: i expected the thin speaker to be much more position-dependant, but i don't notice so much difference.
performance: i can't notice any difference, and i'm quite sure people with mi 9t pro won't ever notice any difference, cause 730 is already overpowered for screen resolution
honestly i won't listen those talking about the camera, you can't compare it to huawei high ends or samsung, but against op6 camera it's almost even.
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Hello guys, I have just bought this phone, my first Xiaomi device, I bought it because of the price, design, battery and performance, but there's a really big fact for me to consider, THE CAMERA.
A friend of mine has a Redmi Note 3 Pro, so I could have a reference point about MI devices before buying it, I really had a good taste of it, the camera looked good, also the screen did.
But my surprise (for bad) was that the Redmi 4 Prime camera's really poor! especially indoors or low light conditions, the selfie camera also sucks, it lacks a lot from light. I have researched a little bit more and found that the cameras on the Redmi Note 3 Pro are different from the 4 Prime (a bad desition in my opinion).
My question is: Is the Redmi 4 Prime camera that bad (hardware issue) or it could be a matter of software (maybe trying another ROM) btw, I have tried another camera apps and still the same.
Even if the camera quality issues are software, I don't expect Xiaomi to solve them any time soon.
Anyway, the G4 is definitely not a good phone: the battery lasts like 4 hours of SoT at most, the build quality is lacklustre, and in general performance day to day performance is worse than the R4P. Also, the most important thing: LG used a cheap soldering material on the G4 (and the V10, and apparently also the V20) that wears down over time, and causes the phone to bootloop after more or less a year of use.
You should consider the Moto G5 Plus, if you want a decent camera for a low(ish) price.
Most midrange phone will produce ranging from bad to mediocre photo in a low light situation. I don't know about Moto G5 Plus, haven't read any good review or even own a unit of it. Never expect a low to midrange phone camera to compete in flagship camera competition. And yes, indeed, Redmi Note series, most of the time, have better cameras than non-Note series.
Ok, I know it's gonna sound crazy but I think the Le Pro 3 is just slightly better than these phones right now and here's why.
I recently had the G6 and OP5 to play with for a few days. I'm disappointed in both of them. The OP5 was close to a keeper but a few issues, it was more expensive than all these phones amazing how cheap the G6 is right now.
The G6's main problem is the camera and battery life. I couldn't get a whole day of usage with one full charge. The camera is the most inconsistent of all LG phones I've had, some shots looked great but some were really noisy.
The OP5 was nearly the perfect phone until I started shooting videos and had some AF problems, about 3 out of 10 shots came out blurry. It terms of speed it was pretty darn fast.
I returned it because of the jello screen effect and I just don't think it's worth the money when the Le Pro 3 is so much cheaper and is about 80% of the OP5. Now don't get me wrong it's still a good phone but not worth $480 which is almost double what the Le Pro 3 costs me. And OP devices has always been buggy and needed subsequent patches and patches. OP has always released beta products.
Now the main problem I have with the Le Pro 3 is the screen just looked too washed out and the camera is mediocre but it's the only phone that gets me through 1.5 days on a full charge. It's close to the OP5 in terms of usage speed and it's almost 1/2 the price.
Ok, compare to the S7E it seems the S7E has everything covered, great camera the best in the business imo. It's got micro-SD and water resistance but the battery life is the worst and device is sluggish.
I'm thinking S8 could probably beat all of these phones but I really need good battery life and I don't think the S8 could hold a candle against the Le Pro 3 in this area.
That's where I honestly stand, I don't think any of these phones are perfect but for the price and value the Le Pro 3 is hard to beat.
In my opinion, Le Pro3 is just a monster! Disapointing only on camera and IPS, but after all, it's still one of the best in value phones.
Now only cost $265 for the 64Gb rom/4Gb ram variant, many roms to choose from and battery is one of the best, pretty compact size. Even new phones that coming out are not going to be better maybe 3-5% performance difference that's all. But people get exciting with new phones so they buy them, after few weeks it get old like other phones. Everyone use the phone differently I guess, some people might not even know LeEco after all.
I actually think the screen is pretty good. I mean of course it will look washed out against an amoled but it is great on its own. And so so so much better with the screen protector removed!
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In my opinion, Le Pro3 is just a monster! Disapointing only on camera and IPS, but after all, it's still one of the best in value phones.
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Nah... Camera? Just use Google Camera app to unleash Le Pro 3's potential. I compared mine with iPhone 7 and the latter look terrible in comparison LoL.
Screen is just as good if not better than iPhone 7 too which has terrible screen and resolution compared to the likes of Samsung and Pixel.
I'm currently using my soon to be 4 year old Oneplus One and it's approaching the end of its life span. Random reboots, degraded battery life, overheating etc etc. One of the main features I'm wanting from a new phone is a great camera. Not outstanding, just great. The only two phones I'm considering are the 3T and the Oneplus 5. Based on reviews I've seen, pictures on the OPO 5 look better than the 3T's. Besides that, everything else is about the same. Which phone do you guys recommend?
In my opinion, unless you can get a really great deal on the 3T, go with the 5.
Yeah I was thinking the same. I prefer the design of the 5 rather than the 3T's HTC look. The camera seems a bit improved as well so I guess the extra 60 bucks will be worth it.
I had the OP3 (remember: same main camera as the OP3T) and now I have OP5... believe me, it amazing how much OnePlus has improved their flagship, especially in the camera. Photos are a whole new deal with this phone in comparison with the OP3. I think that the great aperture on the main lens and the zoom on the secondary are the perfect package for great low-light shooting and sharp-clear 2x zoom photos in the other hand. Very very happy and surprised with this camera.
Performance it's also better than the OP3, the Snapdragon 835 really bring the mobile experience to a new level.
The only thing that I'm sad about the OP5 is the jelly scroll effect. It's real and it's noticeable. But, to be honest, by the third week of use you'll forget about it as I did.
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I had the OP3 (remember: same main camera as the OP3T) and now I have OP5... believe me, it amazing how much OnePlus has improved their flagship, especially in the camera. Photos are a whole new deal with this phone in comparison with the OP3. I think that the great aperture on the main lens and the zoom on the secondary are the perfect package for great low-light shooting and sharp-clear 2x zoom photos in the other hand. Very very happy and surprised with this camera.
Performance it's also better than the OP3, the Snapdragon 835 really bring the mobile experience to a new level.
The only thing that I'm sad about the OP5 is the jelly scroll effect. It's real and it's noticeable. But, to be honest, by the third week of use you'll forget about it as I did.
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Thanks for the feedback. I'll be looking forward to taking a lot of pics with the OP5
take the OP5, excellent specs and price-performance ratio.
If you're planning to keep it for the next 4 years then you with the op5. The camera alone isn't worth the price difference. That being said. I do love my op5. The battery might be smaller but it last really long compare to the 3t, I've gotten 7 hr sot a few times with Heavy ish use. But I do much prefer the look of the 3/3t
Take op5 so far
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I'm currently using my soon to be 4 year old Oneplus One and it's approaching the end of its life span. Random reboots, degraded battery life, overheating etc etc. One of the main features I'm wanting from a new phone is a great camera. Not outstanding, just great. The only two phones I'm considering are the 3T and the Oneplus 5. Based on reviews I've seen, pictures on the OPO 5 look better than the 3T's. Besides that, everything else is about the same. Which phone do you guys recommend?
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Oneplus 5 will ensure that you get the latest updates for a much longer time. That includes Andoroid O. I have also sent you a message. Do check your inbox.
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Samsung Galaxy Note 10 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Did Samsung improve the shutter speed on Note10+?? When I had the S10+ the still photos looked great, however it was hard to get a picture of my daughter(18mo old) that didn't look blurry
I spent a couple of days doing camera comparisons with my Pixel 3 XL, which I sent back on Friday (got my Note 10 on Wednesday). I found that I personally like the photos in daylight better from the Note 10, as they look just a bit more "punchy" and clear to me, but that's Samsung applying a deeper saturation and more sharpening. YMMV on that. Early reviews I read online said that it was on par with the Pixel 3 in daylight, but quickly fell apart in low light. I'm happy to report that wasn't my experience at all. Night mode works great, and while it would be nice to have an indicator of how long to hold it, it seems to be just as fast at the Pixel 3. The Pixel 3 did beat it out just a bit with clarity, but not by a very wide margin. I did some blind comparison test between shots from the Note 10 and the Pixel 3 XL with my girlfriend (who has a Pixel 3 XL of her own), and 9 of the 11 shots she picked were the Note 10 shots over the Pixel 3. She prefered the Pixel 3's selfie shot and it's Night Sight shot, but she said she really couldn't tell much of a difference in them.
Aside from quality, I like different Live Focus backgrounds, and being able to swipe up from a corner on the lockscreen to get to the camera is a huge plus for me. It's much faster for me to go from pocket to shot now. I'm going to a convention this weekend, so I expect to get some good use out of the triple cameras too. All in all, I'm beyond happy with the Note 10 camera, and coming from the Pixel 3 XL, I was very concerned, as that was hands down the best camera on a phone I'd ever used. The Note 10 isn't leaps and bounds better, but it is better, in my opinion.
As much as I like Note 10, camera is crap compared to Pixel 3. I've been shooting all day and most images are near useless if subject is moving, automatic in anything less then ideal conditions is also terrible, and can only be improved with Pro mode. Faces are too white and details are all washed out. I had exactly the same results with S10 that I returned
I am not sure what Samsung is thinking. Big company and great hardware, $1000 phone, yet software is not good and photos are behind even Pixel 1
Ps. I am leaning towards keeping the phone anyway and will give Gcam a try
Note 10+ Night Camera is really crap compared to the Pixel phone.... Ugh... Samsung again with their bs
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Did Samsung improve the shutter speed on Note10+?? When I had the S10+ the still photos looked great, however it was hard to get a picture of my daughter(18mo old) that didn't look blurry
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No they haven't. I had a good hands on with the device at their stores and took my kids to just specially test this out.
I sold my S10 plus for this very reason and unfortunately in the Note note 10, they still haven't sorted it out. I had a Galaxy Note 8 and that was the last Samsung without this issue. I think it's something to do with the dual aperture.
Installing Gcam seems to help a lot but I have Exynos chip and doesn't get ported very well.
You have to use Pro mode in order to get anything useful with moving subject. Or Gcam maybe, I haven't tried yet
Daylight shots are very good though, I would say even better then Pixel
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No they haven't. I had a good hands on with the device at their stores and took my kids to just specially test this out.
I sold my S10 plus for this very reason and unfortunately in the Note note 10, they still haven't sorted it out. I had a Galaxy Note 8 and that was the last Samsung without this issue. I think it's something to do with the dual aperture.
Installing Gcam seems to help a lot but I have Exynos chip and doesn't get ported very well.
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Same thing here with my wife's S10e. Since my S7 I hate this. Nowadays I have an iPhone Xr and this is not a problem, fortunately... But I'd like to go back to Android again... Maybe with Pixel 4...
Using pro mode on S10e I've got a nice result setting the shutter speed at least at 1/250. But you lose performance on HDR... So it's like a short sheet... You cover something and uncover other...
That's another mess, the pro mode.
On my note 8, i chose to keep a fast shutter speed and my preferred white balance with iso as a shortcut on home screen. This way it allowed me to directly jump into 3 of my preferred pro mode setting directly without fiddling and adjusting, but as always, Samsung had to take a damn step back and removed this shortcut starting from note 9.
Hmmmnnn. I had a note 8, and all the others besides the 9. Any of them, like any other cameras I have used(cameras and camcorders), with the faster shutter speeds, I always use manual(or as Samsung likes to call pro). I guess most of my subjects when I learned were really fast(rc helicopters doing aerobatics and saltwater reef tanks), so the old rule of 'learn manual shooting first and don't rely on auto' saved me.
Neither of those environments are ideal, and i learned to just 'make' the cameras work for me. It's not a fault of the devices, it's just the honest inherent nature of auto mode.. I also love macro photography, so that is another realm in which manual knowledge is key..
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The portrait mood has bee the single most disappointing feature for me, perhaps we are spoiled by the gcam quality, but samsung could have done better.
Having an Exynos device makes it even more challenging to find a stable fully functional gcam.
I am almost inclining towards finding a pixel (2/3a or 3) just for camera capabilities.
Even the poco with it's xiaomi camera did a better job at portraits
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The portrait mood has bee the single most disappointing feature for me, perhaps we are spoiled by the gcam quality, but samsung could have done better.
Having an Exynos device makes it even more challenging to find a stable fully functional gcam.
I am almost inclining towards finding a pixel (2/3a or 3) just for camera capabilities.
Even the poco with it's xiaomi camera did a better job at portraits
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Portrait is very good as far as i'm concerned. Maybe malfunctionning device ? I have exynos as well and no pb with photos (EDIT : i have Note 10 Plus though so maybe TOF does the job).
My portait photos are probably the most striking and accurate i ever took with a smartphone, i have very nice pics of my kids taken with it.
Single hairs on sides are not blurred either, it only blurs the background and does it right.
I am very disappointed with cameras .
Low definition and quality when you do not have 100% of light .
Night mode it **** also.
I came from op6 and did better photos stock and with gcam.
Samsung camera processing it is the worst one
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I am very disappointed with cameras .
Low definition and quality when you do not have 100% of light .
Night mode it **** also.
I came from op6 and did better photos stock and with gcam.
Samsung camera processing it is the worst one
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Plain wrong... Post exemple or it never happened.
Camera is not good but much better than OP7
villadecai said:
I am very disappointed with cameras .
Low definition and quality when you do not have 100% of light .
Night mode it **** also.
I came from op6 and did better photos stock and with gcam.
Samsung camera processing it is the worst one
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I compared with OP7 and found that Note 10 (Exynos) is far better when compared to OnePlus 7.
Though Pixel 2 XL have much better camera
Just wondering whether the staggering difference in photo quality between Exynos and Snapdragon versions of Note 10 is here as well. I was shocked how far better was Galaxy S9 (Snapdragon) in this term.
Definitely isn't this year...the Exynos model has improved a lot so much so there's a huge difference between the photo quality of the note 10 and the S10 5g I had.
new update to camera today
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The portrait mood has bee the single most disappointing feature for me, perhaps we are spoiled by the gcam quality, but samsung could have done better.
Having an Exynos device makes it even more challenging to find a stable fully functional gcam.
I am almost inclining towards finding a pixel (2/3a or 3) just for camera capabilities.
Even the poco with it's xiaomi camera did a better job at portraits
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That is weird, I find portrait quality to be much better than my Note 8 and iphone XS Max, edge definition is outstanding compared to iphones and I have taken portrait shots that are as good (resolution aside) as my Canon 70D with 85mm lens.
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Was contemplating buying a 8t but from what pictures I've seen taken with it seems very poor quality especially low light wasn't impressed by the 8s camera when first came out and seeing as it's basically the same dated sensor and not improved much I'm on the fence when there are better camera phones around for same price or less like pixel 4a wish oneplus would ditch the stupid other lenses that are practically useless and stick to 1/2 decent performing lenses like on the pixel and iphones think are skip the 8T especially @ £549/£649 there's definitely better out there in the camera department they should of improved camera not keep it the same but then they shoot them selves in the foot as the can't do that as it will then be better than the 8 pro, again not best camera also, ditch the stupid extra lenses and silly T models in between and make a decent 2 lense true flag ship oneplus
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Was contemplating buying a 8t but from what pictures I've seen taken with it seems very poor quality especially low light wasn't impressed by the 8s camera when first came out and seeing as it's basically the same dated sensor and not improved much I'm on the fence when there are better camera phones around for same price or less like pixel 4a wish oneplus would ditch the stupid other lenses that are practically useless and stick to 1/2 decent performing lenses like on the pixel and iphones think are skip the 8T especially @ £549/£649 there's definitely better out there in the camera department they should of improved camera not keep it the same but then they shoot them selves in the foot as the can't do that as it will then be better than the 8 pro, again not best camera also, ditch the stupid extra lenses and silly T models in between and make a decent 2 lense true flag ship oneplus
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Picture quality is way better than my LG V60. If your expecting professional quality pictures get a DSLR
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