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I'm sad, that they did't opted for a symmetric front with two front-firing stereo speakers.
SGH-i200 said:
I'm sad, that they did't opted for a symmetric front with two front-firing stereo speakers.
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the quality probably wouldnt have been adequate and people would just complain. I wonder if Google will keep the plastic backing and just launch the phones at a price in the middle of pixel 3 and 3a. that would be sweet and you can still have wireless charging through plastic like the nexus 5
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the quality probably wouldnt have been adequate and people would just complain. I wonder if Google will keep the plastic backing and just launch the phones at a price in the middle of pixel 3 and 3a. that would be sweet and you can still have wireless charging through plastic like the nexus 5
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This phone will cost $700+. Google is tripping.
Jammol said:
This phone will cost $700+. Google is tripping.
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ya, and the iPhone 11 is killing it right now. I don't think Google will be able to match them this year. that triple set up is a beast!
jalado said:
ya, and the iPhone 11 is killing it right now. I don't think Google will be able to match them this year. that triple set up is a beast!
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Meh, incremental update for the iPhone 11. I don't know about "killing it right now." Apple will always sell a lot of iPhones. I just want the Pixel lineup to have it's crap together and for Google to stop chasing Apple customers by blatantly copying iPhones.
jalado said:
ya, and the iPhone 11 is killing it right now. I don't think Google will be able to match them this year. that triple set up is a beast!
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The Night Mode photos of the Pixel 3a won't have to hide compared to the photos taken by the new iPhone. The new GCam app of the Pixel 4 will beat the iPhone for sure!
"Night Mode: iPhone 11 Pro Max vs Pixel 3a XL!" -
If it's in fact true that the battery is the same or smaller than the pixel 3, I think Google has made it clear they don't want ME as a customer.
I love pixel but their battery performance is ****. I am loving my p30 pro but I want a smaller device, so I may just get an iPhone 11 pro if this turns out to be the case about the px4 batteries.
radlink14 said:
If it's in fact true that the battery is the same or smaller than the pixel 3, I think Google has made it clear they don't want ME as a customer.
I love pixel but their battery performance is ****. I am loving my p30 pro but I want a smaller device, so I may just get an iPhone 11 pro if this turns out to be the case about the px4 batteries.
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I average around 6-7h sot on my pixel 3 in a full day and 4-5h over 2 days.... problem with Google is there are certain settings/features that drain battery, if you turn them off the battery is great!
What settings are those?
I average 3-4hrs sot on my px3
this was on pie... but I'm getting similar results on 10 especially after all the apps started updating for compatibility for Android 10. it all depends on how u use your phone too. this was mainly on Reddit and chrome.
aod off
NFC off
Bluetooth/scanning off (big battery killer)
wifi scanning off (big battery killer)
adaptive battery off (I saw a big difference after I turned this off)
adaptive display off
lift to check off
double tap to check on
location on
keyboard sounds off
all vibrate off even fingerprint sensor
also calibrate your battery after 1gb+ Android updates this will reset the battery stats
Nice I had most of those disabled but some not. Hopefully I can get some good sot like you.
Of course I know all experiences are based on usage, I work in IT so I am pretty observant of these things. I'm also spoiled worry p30 pro - don't need to disable/worry about anything and I can get 7+ sot haha.
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Nice I had most of those disabled but some not. Hopefully I can get some good sot like you.
Of course I know all experiences are based on usage, I work in IT so I am pretty observant of these things. I'm also spoiled worry p30 pro - don't need to disable/worry about anything and I can get 7+ sot haha.
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nice!
Some people are making a lot of judgements based on one prototype which is significantly gimped in firmware and software. As to the device I'm fine with it's design. I only use speaker for speakerphone and video chat, my phones always go in cases, I only get 3 or 4 hours with every phone because I like my toys and I'm not turning them off. I think the only thing that could kill it for me it's if it's ridiculously overpriced.
Does pixel 4 comes with the top bezel like the old pixel phones?
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The Night Mode photos of the Pixel 3a won't have to hide compared to the photos taken by the new iPhone. The new GCam app of the Pixel 4 will beat the iPhone for sure!
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Probably even release of Google Camera 7 on Pixel 3 will beat these night sight images
This is subjective of course. But design in Pixel 2, 3 and 3a is the best
Then it comes Pixel 1.
I don't even like the design of the 4.
But I liked the glossy back of the Just Black
Nothing of importance because I'll install a Spigen Thinfit the first day.
I think it's an ugly phone if I'm being honest.
I was looking forward to it but after seeing it, I think it's a pretty solid pass.
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apple destroyed them this year. do you notice that Google alternates dropping the battery capacity each year for the regular and xl? probably to cut back somewhere. they should of kept the wide angle selfie scrapped Soli and face unlock and kept the rear fingerprint and add wide angle to the back with a bigger battery or at least the same for the regular. the pixel 3 might be the new nexus 5
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The Night Mode photos of the Pixel 3a won't have to hide compared to the photos taken by the new iPhone. The new GCam app of the Pixel 4 will beat the iPhone for sure!
"Night Mode: iPhone 11 Pro Max vs Pixel 3a XL!" -
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If you look at DxOMark it's interesting that neither the Pixel nor iPhones are at the top of the ratings anymore (although they haven't reviewed the iPhone 11 yet, it seems). https://www.dxomark.com/category/smartphone-reviews/ It's Huawei, Samsung, and even OnePlus who are rating the highest. Maybe the days of Apple and Google being the cream of the crop are over. Although the Pixel 4 still tied for the best rating for video performance. And it scored very well, so the differences with the top phones may not be that important.
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This is subjective of course. But design in Pixel 2, 3 and 3a is the best
Then it comes Pixel 1.
I don't even like the design of the 4.
But I liked the glossy back of the Just Black
Nothing of importance because I'll install a Spigen Thinfit the first day.
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I still like the Pixel 1 the most. The feel of the chamfered edges on the all aluminum phone seems so much more high quality than the subsequent Pixel designs. I like the Pixel 2 second best. I really hate glass backs (going all the way back to the Nexus 4 and iPhone 4), so the Pixel 3 and 4 will always be inferior, design-wise, to me. Extra glass seems cheap and overly glitzy to me.
Related
http://software2tech.com/2012/02/26...echnology-to-android-smartphones-galaxy-beam/
http://reviews.cnet.com/2300-13970_7-10011428.html?tag=mncol
Seems cool but its such a niche market they are targeting.
Probably more than likely targeted for the Asian/Korean market. They had a previous model by the same or similar name last year.
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Well they called the Note a niche, now it seems pretty popular. But yeah this one will be niche, I don't care, if its not overpriced I will get it. Bigger screen is always a welcome.
I predict future phones will all have projecting ability.
didnt they release this phone like 2 years ago ?
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found it
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i8520_galaxy_beam-3150.php
released july 2010
sandyph said:
didnt they release this phone like 2 years ago ?
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LG released a projector phone a couple of years back.
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eksasol said:
Well they called the Note a niche, now it seems pretty popular. But yeah this one will be niche, I don't care, if its not overpriced I will get it. Bigger screen is always a welcome.
I predict future phones will all have projecting ability.
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The screen is only 4", but you're probably talking about the projected image. But if you're thinking the projected image is going to look even remotely good enough to "enjoy" you're fooling yourself - 15 lumens is pretty weak. And on top of that battery life is probably going to be dismal, other features will definitely be removed or skimped on to make room for the projector (and to keep the cost down), and Samsung will abandon this thing update-wise faster than you can say "Samsung will abandon this thing update-wise". For all those reasons I wouldn't touch this thing with a 10' pole. The more I think about it, you have yourself a recipe for the worst phone of 2012 brewing in this thing.
This video was filmed at MWC2012 at Barcelona.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB3cFLvn9uQ
You can see the main functions and the projector. I am here for any questions.
Interesting concept but projector quality and battery life are probably lacking.
Hey!
I have used the phone for a week now and it's absolutely amazing! Here's a video review I made. I apologize for the bad quality in the dark shots, but my cameras are too average to handle it. I can assure you the image is crisp clear in complete dark rooms, but in even the slightest light you loose details and sharpness, and as you can see in my video, in the evening (it was 7 pm), you can't see a thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL3kEi40aBs
Feel free to ask questions
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Hey!
I have used the phone for a week now and it's absolutely amazing! Here's a video review I made. I apologize for the bad quality in the dark shots, but my cameras are too average to handle it. I can assure you the image is crisp clear in complete dark rooms, but in even the slightest light you loose details and sharpness, and as you can see in my video, in the evening (it was 7 pm), you can't see a thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL3kEi40aBs
Feel free to ask questions
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Very cool :] Thanks!
floiancu said:
Hey!
I have used the phone for a week now and it's absolutely amazing! Here's a video review I made. I apologize for the bad quality in the dark shots, but my cameras are too average to handle it. I can assure you the image is crisp clear in complete dark rooms, but in even the slightest light you loose details and sharpness, and as you can see in my video, in the evening (it was 7 pm), you can't see a thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IL3kEi40aBs
Feel free to ask questions
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how was the battery life on it, is it for like a short time use on battery? or can you play an entire movie?
It can go a full 5h on one charge, so they say, but i have never tried to drain the battery on the projector only. What's more, you get a second battery you can charge independently and simultaneously so watching a full movie is a piece of cake. As far as a smartphone goes, it uses the battery fairly ok, you can easily get more than an entire day on 3g, wifi and others.
MadJoe said:
The screen is only 4", but you're probably talking about the projected image. But if you're thinking the projected image is going to look even remotely good enough to "enjoy" you're fooling yourself - 15 lumens is pretty weak. And on top of that battery life is probably going to be dismal, other features will definitely be removed or skimped on to make room for the projector (and to keep the cost down), and Samsung will abandon this thing update-wise faster than you can say "Samsung will abandon this thing update-wise". For all those reasons I wouldn't touch this thing with a 10' pole. The more I think about it, you have yourself a recipe for the worst phone of 2012 brewing in this thing.
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I have used the phone for a month now. I considered getting it for its battery life more than for its projector. The price is as expected if you consider that pico projectors cost ~£70 on ebay. Nevertheless I am so pissed off with any smartphone's battery life in general that I would easily pay £70 to get one that gives best possible.
This phone has 4" and 2 batteries with 2000miliamphours close to SGSIII or the new google nexus that have much bigger screen. So if I don't use the projector but every thing else turned on 24/7, Wifi, 3G, live wallpaper, skype, steam, 6 im+ accounts and normal to heavy use, I can get 2 days without charging AND having the 2nd battery that comes in the box for another 2 days.
I was expecting the projector to be nothing more than a gimmick and not good as it actually is! With flash support I can stream live tv on my wall or ceiling. I had to craft a base for it from a little box so that it can stay upright and charge at the same time. Sure it needs to be dark but for the times of the day that i wanted to use it, darkness was not a problem. Even in daytime thought, I can use a A4 sheet of paper across the desk from where its charging and play videos or tv shows as an additional 10-12" screen on my desktop.
So your assumption about battery life, sorry to say but it is false. The battery life on this phone is one of the best out there, just because they needed to do so to support the projector. The projector is a feature more than it is a gimmick and it has proven useful for me on every day use.
Cons:
-I've only heard announcements for official upgrade to JB but I haven't received one yet. Still running GingerBread.
-no 3rd party support for roms and kernels, yet., I am missing features such as USB-OTG and overclocking. Barely a rooting guide exists.
-no dedicated XDA forum for GT-I8530
-stock prevents me from using the projector while gps is locating.. (not a yuge problem imo, just annoyance)
Overall the phone is a WIN situation for me. Official or 3rd party support is a matter of time.
Why is there no XDA forum for it? They should start turning op pretty cheap on ebay and with the projector it's an obvious candidate for custom applications.
- Smint
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Why is there no XDA forum for it? They should start turning op pretty cheap on ebay and with the projector it's an obvious candidate for custom applications.
- Smint
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In this review i am looking at Asus’s flagship phone for 2015 the Zenfone 2 complete with 64gb of storage and 4gb ram (most in any phone to date). As a flagship it is going up against some stiff competition such as the Galaxy S 6, the LG G4, and the One M9. With the specs Asus’s top version of this phone boasts it fits well into that crowd but there are areas that they did need to “skimp” on in order to reach that magical $299 unlocked price. There is a lower spec’d version of the Zenfone 2 for $199 unlocked but it does come with a slightly slower processor and 2gb of ram. We shall be focusing on the higher end one here.
Look & Feel
As you can see from the pictures i was able to grab the red version of the phone. i’m a huge fan of red so any phone released with a red option already gets a bit of an edge in my mind but i won’t let that come into my decision here. I do like that they left the front of the device all black so all you can see in the front is the small chrome speaker grill, chrome Asus logo and the hardware keys. I think it looks rather tastefully done and it does have the premium look that many seem to want these days.
The back of the phone is plastic but they do a good job hiding that a bit with a “metallic” finish with a bit of texture that help in keeping a grip on what is a large phone. It is not a fingerprint magnet by any means. In my opinion it feels even a little better in hand then last years LG G3 even is the Zenfone 2 is a bit taller thanks to those hardware keys. I personally am not a fan of these but many are...all comes down to your taste. Taking more design cues from LG the Zenfone 2 has its volume rocker is on the back. They did opt to put the power button in my opinion the worst spot on such a large phone... Dead center on the top of the device. Not only that... It's also quite "mushy" giving little to no tactical response to let you know you actually pressed it. The Zenfone 2 does have double tap to wake and sleep function as well but it did not work as intended to me all of the time.
The device’s dimensions are 152.5 x 77.2 x 10.9 mm (6.00 x 3.04 x 0.43 in) and weighs in at 170g (6.00 oz) It is a bit thick but the sides slim down to 3.5mm which make it much nicer to hold. What i will say is where the front glass on the phone meets the small “chin” below the hardware keys there is a very noticeable sharp lip. Not enough to hurt but enough to become annoying in my short time with the phone. Overall it’s a well designed phone and for the price.
Under the HoodUnder the back cover you will find a micro SD card slot for up to 128GB of expandable storage and 2...count them 2 sim card slots. This is a bit strange to have in a phone in north america but very common in other areas of the world. I did test this out and switching between phone numbers was easy enough but only sim slot 1 can handle 3g and LTE. The second slot is only for 2G and Phone calls. Inside you will also find a 3000mAh battery but this is not user removable which is a bit of a shame but that’s the way most phones seem to be going. Do note that this phone comes with Intel’s version of quick charge and the $299 version of the phone comes with a high amp quick charger. It does work with all chargers with Qualcomm’s Quickcharge 2.0 spec as well.
User InterfaceThe Zenfone 2 comes out of the box running Android 5.0 Lollipop which is nice to see. I did receive an OTA right after turning on the device but the version number stayed at 5.0. Everyone is now waiting on phones to get 5.1 but Asus am an interested to see how up to date they keep their not flagship. I will say that this phone as the most “bloatware” I have ever seen on an unlocked device. Even comes running Cleanmaster out of the box...classy. Asus is nice enough to let you uninstall much of it but for the review I wanted to keep most of it intact. I did uninstall Cleanmaster as it was just too annoying to deal with. I do however like that almost all of the phones apps live in the Play Store and can be updated without having to wait for a full firmware update. Nice moves.
Over all Asus stuck to the material design aspects of Lollipop with its revamped ZenUI. The menus are in list view and are easy to navigate. The notifications pulldown is close to stock with few differences but the quick toggles have been completely re-skinned and are customizable. I actually like the way this works and give you a quick brightness slider and access to some of the tools you may use most often on your device.
The only part of the UI i really have a problem with is the one you see most often...the launcher. To get into Google Now you must long press the home button then swipe up... not the most intuitive or the best implementation of this feature. There is also no google now hotword support built into the launcher. It took me about a day to install the Google Now Launcher and all is well.
Performance One word can describe the performance of this device...Fast! With 4gb of ram to work with i would expect nothing less. Couple that with the Intel Atom Z3580 clocked at 2.3GHz (Intel Atom Z3560 1.8 GHz in the 2gb version) and this thing is a screamer. I have had Zero slowdowns or stutters since i started playing with it and that is also after loading it up with all of my personal apps and having all of my accounts syncing all of the time. Pretty great!
On the graphics and video handling of this device it was again very good. Running the PowerVR G6430 (same as the iPhone 5s) it has no problems playing some of the most intense games. Its pushing a 1080P screen so not as many pixels as many of the other 2015 flagships. I do not run benchmarks on my phones but can tell you that you will not be disappointed.
Display The phone boasts a 72% screen to body ratio which is not too shabby. It comes with a 5.5 inch 1080p IPS display which come out to be 402ppi and to my eyes it is perfectly adequate. Images look sharp and its 3 built in screen modes. Comes set on the balance mode out of the box but has a Reading to cool things down and a Vivid mode which really makes colors pop like on the GS6, even a mode to let the user make their own settings. I left mine on balanced. Where the display does not do well is with readability outdoors. It does not get bright enough to overcome even an overcast day. At the same time does not get dark enough when trying to watch a video or read a website in pitch blackness...my eyes did feel strained. The display is just fine but it is clearly one of the areas that Asus had to give a little to keep the price down.
Camera In the press and at the US launch event this is the one area Asus spent the most time talking about. Asus is very proud of this camera and they should be...it is quite good. Lets start out front where the Zenfone 2 is rocking a 5 Mega-Pixel, Fix Focus, Wide View, camera with Asus’s PixelMaster tech. It takes decent selfies and has many modes to help you tweak them to your liking. Out back is a 13 Mega-Pixel camera with Asus’s PixelMaster tech. While the mega-pixel count may seem low for a flagship phone today it actually takes some good shots. In good lighting it did very well. It does not has the optical image stabilization of some of the more expensive phones but it even does well in dim to low light situations. Not the greatest camera but one the best i have seen at this price point for sure.
Battery Life One of the most important specs in any mobile device and I am happy to report that the Zenfone 2 delivers in the battery life department. I an not easy on my phones battery. I have all of my social media as well as 4 google accounts and 8 other email accounts constantly updating in the background. While testing i kept the phone on auto brightness. With its 3000mAh cell I was always able to through a whole day with some to spare. As mentioned before it does not have a removable battery but the quick charging is definitely a plus if you have really been hammering on it for a few hours.
In Conclusion Asus really wants to make it clear that they are coming to play. The Zenfone 2 delivers in many areas and ticks all the right boxes for what most would want out of a flagship level device. With that said even though Asus is comparing this phone to the likes of the GS6, I am much more comfortable comparing it to the 2014 flagship phones from all of its competitors. The GS5, the LG G3, the HTC One M9, let’s even throw the Oneplus One in there… all still cost more when purchased new and unlocked then the Zenfone 2 at $299 for the top model. I think that is the biggest win here for Asus. Lets not forget that it starts at just $199 unlocked! That is what most flagships smartphone cost for their lowest spec model on contract.
Just a couple notes --- you can reach Google now by holding down the home button for a moment and swiping up. Discovered this through serendipity [emoji14]
And it's odd how everyone talks about the screen being hard to see in sunlight, since I have absolutely no trouble seeing it in direct sunlight with my transition glasses. I must have weird eyes or something [emoji14]
jerflash said:
The only part of the UI i really have a problem with is the one you see most often...the launcher. With no swipe up from home to reach google now you are relegated to using Asus’s google search widget. There is also no google now hotword support built into the launcher. It took me about a day to install the Google Now Launcher and all is well.
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You can pull up to Google Now from the home button. Press the capacitive home for a second and Google Now icon shows up. Just slide finger to it once it does. And from Google Now, you can set the 'OK Google' keyword to be used from any screen.
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You can pull up to Google Now from the home button. Press the capacitive home for a second and Google Now icon shows up. Just slide finger to it once it does. And from Google Now, you can set the 'OK Google' keyword to be used from any screen.
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hey thanks for the tip i did not come across that at all while using it. still not very intuitive or the best implimentation
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Just a couple notes --- you can reach Google now by holding down the home button for a moment and swiping up. Discovered this through serendipity [emoji14]
And it's odd how everyone talks about the screen being hard to see in sunlight, since I have absolutely no trouble seeing it in direct sunlight with my transition glasses. I must have weird eyes or something [emoji14]
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Those are some special glasses lol
Interesting! I use transition lens myself and this is good news! Still waiting for my phone to arrive though. ?
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1. I have a Nexus 6P and I think its not worth the upgrade
2. The price - at 1000 dollars this thing will set you back a hefty penny
3. No OIS. The phone doesnt have OIS, but it has EIS which uses software to stabilize the image
4. No front facing speakers
5. Not water resistant. if they are competing with Apple, why would they leave this out?
6. Same battery size as my nexus 6p
7. Since its a pixel phone it might be locked down like an IPhone (not confirmed but there is a chance)
8. 4GB RAM. Most phones nowadays have 4GB of RAM
9. No official updates after 2 years. This was one of the things that turned me off as well. They released this phone as a competition to Apple yet they will support their phones for less years.
10. The bezel. Its big, with nothing useful on it
11. 5.5 inch screen. Even the nexus 6p has a 5.7 inch screen.
12. Mono speakers
13. Pixel Launcher is not really that good. I'm sure most people will go back to google launcher because it's more customizable
I am sure there are more stuff to list. but these are what convinced me to cancel my pre order.
I guess ill just keep my 6P and see what happens next year.
This was all known in advance of the pre-order page going live. Why did you even bother ordering in the first place?
It was all just an illusion
Same. I find it hilarious how they position it at iPhone pricing, and then leave out features that the iPhone has like water resistance and official updates for years
I'm about to cancel mine too...
Compare with the Axon 7!
-Better camera
-Dual front speakers
-No bezel
-Half the price
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Google-Pixel-XL,ZTE-Axon-7/phones/10263,10068
PSA only 1 Bottom Firing Speaker also.
Constrabus said:
I'm about to cancel mine too...
Compare with the Axon 7!
-Better camera
-Dual front speakers
-No bezel
-Half the price
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Google-Pixel-XL,ZTE-Axon-7/phones/10263,10068
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yeah, Axon os the way to go. or even OP3 when the price is down.
Constrabus said:
I'm about to cancel mine too...
Compare with the Axon 7!
-Better camera
-Dual front speakers
-No bezel
-Half the price
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Google-Pixel-XL,ZTE-Axon-7/phones/10263,10068
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The BMW-designed Axon 7 ($400) even has the SAME 5.5" 1440p AMOLED Samsung display the Pixel XL uses.
And has award-winning audio capability with front facing speakers.
And REAL rear camera OIS.
It's also Daydream VR capable... (just like the Pixel XL)
Plus, it's slightly smaller phone (slimmer bezels!)
Google should have bought like 1 million ZTE Axon 7 phones for $400 each, slapped their Nougat software on, sold them as the "Pixel XL" for $500! It would STILL be $300 - $400 cheaper than the real pathetic Pixel XL and be a much better phone! I would buy 3 of those right now.
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SPECS: Google Pixel XL vs ZTE Axon 7
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Google-Pixel-XL,ZTE-Axon-7/phones/10263,10068?ft=2
Is the two years software update confirmed?
They needed to improve that at the very least.
mitchst2 said:
Is the two years software update confirmed?
They needed to improve that at the very least.
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yes its on their website
the lack of OIS killed it for me
flex360 said:
yes its on their website
the lack of OIS killed it for me
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So they aren't doing anything different really and charging daft money for the privilege.
ChazzMatt said:
Google should have bought like 1 million ZTE Axon 7 phones for $400 each, slapped their Nougat software on, sold them as the "Pixel XL" for $500!
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hahahahahahaha! best comment ever !!!
I'm thinking of cancelling my preorder. I like some of the features. Is there going to be another nexus device? I want quick OS updates.
X10D3 said:
I'm thinking of cancelling my preorder. I like some of the features. Is there going to be another nexus device? I want quick OS updates.
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just get a nexus 6p for half the price
Not pre-ordering and will never order - there is very little to like about this phone.
I've had all the Nexus phones with exception of the S starting with the One up until and including the 6 (which I'm still happily using) .
For me, Google is not going in the right direction. I'd take the Axon over this junk, although I think I'd rather have a 6" screen, so will consider the Mate 8 or the 9. Or maybe just hold on to the 6 for while longer.
That's what I'm doing I'm getting the 6p its a better phone that pixel xl ...
Or the axon 7 ? Wow it looks great ?
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tupirujp said:
That's what I'm doing I'm getting the 6p its a better phone that pixel xl ...
Or the axon 7 ? Wow it looks great
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id get the nexus, if you want timely updates
So what are they going to do, just not give an update to the Pixel? Does that mean that Nougat is going to stop having updates?
No change regards updates.
Somewhat disappointing given the fact they are trying to sell this phone on a strong software slant.
ChazzMatt said:
The BMW-designed Axon 7 even has the SAME 5.5" 1440p AMOLED Samsung display the Pixel XL uses.
And has award-winning audio capability with front facing speakers.
And REAL rear camera OIS.
It's also Daydream VR capable... (just like the Pixel XL)
Plus, it's slightly smaller phone (slimmer bezels!)
Google should have bought like 1 million ZTE Axon 7 phones for $400 each, slapped their Nougat software on, sold them as the "Pixel XL" for $500! It would STILL be $300 - $400 cheaper than the real pathetic Pixel XL and be a much better phone! I would buy 3 of those right now.
Google Pixel XL vs ZTE Axon 7
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Google-Pixel-XL,ZTE-Axon-7/phones/10263,10068?ft=2
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Except who knows when the Axon is going to receive Nougat, and when O is released what are the chances ZTE is going to push an update. Even without OIS the camera is still going to be a lot better on the Pixel as well.
IMO it's really annoying that Google isn't supporting Pixel phones for at least 3 years with OS updates. For that price point it should be AT LEAST 3 years and 4 years of security updates. Hell, inexpensive ChromeOS devices are supported for 5 years.
It's getting really hard to recommend an Android phone to a family member or friend. Especially when VZW is the only carrier who is selling the Pixel.
flex360 said:
1. I have a Nexus 6P and I think its not worth the upgrade
2. The price - at 1000 dollars this thing will set you back a hefty penny - Why are you paying $1k? $869 here plus tax
3. No OIS. The phone doesnt have OIS, but it has EIS which uses software to stabilize the image - Still has the best camera on the market so does no OIS really matter?
4. No front facing speakers - Not something I've ever had or wanted. I've always listened to music via external speakers because they're better than ANY smartphone speakers, front facing or not
5. Not water resistant. if they are competing with Apple, why would they leave this out? - Never needed this either. Also there is evidence to suggest that making phones water resistant with tight compartments is lending to phones blowing up recently
6. Same battery size as my nexus 6p - But SD810 is way way way less battery efficient
7. Since its a pixel phone it might be locked down like an IPhone (not confirmed but there is a chance) - I ordered from VZW, so yah mine will 100% be locked down. Why don't I care? The last time I rooted a phone was the Galaxy S6, I think. You guys still do that? Why?
8. 4GB RAM. Most phones nowadays have 4GB of RAM - Plenty for a stock Android device
9. No official updates after 2 years. This was one of the things that turned me off as well. They released this phone as a competition to Apple yet they will support their phones for less years. - In 1 year I will be on to a new device. My upgrade pattern has typically been 6mon...
10. The bezel. Its big, with nothing useful on it - Keeps you from accidentally pressing things on the sides ala S7 Edge/Note7 and the chin allows better balancing and holding of the device for taking photos
11. 5.5 inch screen. Even the nexus 6p has a 5.7 inch screen. - I'm good with 5.5" in it's current footprint, see above comment
I am sure there are more stuff to list. but these are what convinced me to cancel my pre order.
I guess ill just keep my 6P and see what happens next year.
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I'd like to hear more of your thoughts...
I get that people like different things for different reasons but to me it's as good a buy as any other phone on the market that was intended for the US. Since my personal opinion is that the Note7 is crap, I was actually seriously considering getting an iPhone 7 Plus. I'm super super super glad that this phone was announced because I didn't really want an iPhone but was going to bite the bullet since it's next best thing imo.
As we all know Apple has invaded our Fingerprint scanner.
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Link : http://www.androidcentral.com/nexus...int-sensor-if-not-apples-acquisition-supplier
What if Moto again start a new N6 with FP Scanner As 6X ? which one do you buy ?
Pixel
Pixel XL
Nexus 6x
Nexus 6p
Nexus 5x
Nexus 5
Damn I was hoping someone found a mod and finally posted a how to. Lol. If it was a real "Certified by google" Nexus 6x then I'd go with that. But I'd expect the specs:
6" screen
4 to 6gb ram
64,124,248gb rom options
New and improved Sony sensor maybe 16mp or 23?
1440p AMOLED with higher PPI then the last version
USB C 3.1
Snapdragon 821
Fully supported notification LED and many other fixes that should be a no trainer by them but aren't.
That's my basic gist of a solid 6x by Lenovo/Motorola I would buy it in a heartbeat because I legit am dying because no phone will ever be as good as the og Nexus 6. I'm going to get a OnePlus 3T and later on a pixel XL. But neither will ever be as good as my N6
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Damn I was hoping someone found a mod and finally posted a how to. Lol. If it was a real "Certified by google" Nexus 6x then I'd go with that. But I'd expect the specs:
6" screen
4 to 6gb ram
64,124,248gb rom options
New and improved Sony sensor maybe 16mp or 23?
1440p AMOLED with higher PPI then the last version
USB C 3.1
Snapdragon 821
Fully supported notification LED and many other fixes that should be a no trainer by them but aren't.
That's my basic gist of a solid 6x by Lenovo/Motorola I would buy it in a heartbeat because I legit am dying because no phone will ever be as good as the og Nexus 6. I'm going to get a OnePlus 3T and later on a pixel XL. But neither will ever be as good as my N6
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Nice touch to my thread.
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What if Moto again start a new N6 with FP Scanner As 6X ? which one do you buy ?
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Yikes that is all my N6 needs, I would buy one in a heartbeat.
Yeah, an FP and some 64bit CPU.
I'd also appreciate a 3D glassless screen and dual camera like in Evo 3D.
And bring back the Qi charger!
Nothing more...
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sms2000 said:
Yeah, an FP and some 64bit CPU.
I'd also appreciate a 3D glassless screen and dual camera like in Evo 3D.
And bring back the Qi charger!
Nothing more...
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This phone already has Qi charging. I use it all the time
I would buy the nexus x6 but I think the google line is dead.
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No FP for me tyvm
Also I would request either a lithium ion battery or a sata battery instead of the crappy lithium polymer battery that way we don't have heating issues and so the back won't fall off. Also I'd want moto mods so we can color the glass white or black, pick any color for the frame/midbody, and any color/material for the back plate. That would be awesome. I'd really like the fingerprint reader in the power button on the side like Sony's because I have big hands and that's my natural area, I'd like metal buttons this time too. And maybe touch/hardware buttons and not software so we have the full 6".
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This phone already has Qi charging. I use it all the time
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Yeah, I know.
I mean, hey, Google, just drop those Pixels and 6P/5X nonsense and bring Qi back.
No Qi = no more Nexus/Pixel/Google phone for me. Nexus 6 is my last one for now.
Or just develop another good Wi-charge system.
sms2000 said:
Yeah, I know.
I mean, hey, Google, just drop those Pixels and 6P/5X nonsense and bring Qi back.
No Qi = no more Nexus/Pixel/Google phone for me. Nexus 6 is my last one for now.
Or just develop another good Wi-charge system.
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Oh the pixel and Nexus 6p don't have it because they have aluminum body's. You can go get a Qi pad to stick to your device under the case. Thats what ill do I prefer metal unibody design for its strength and that means giving up Qi but we can get it back thanks to smart internet people haha
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Oh the pixel and Nexus 6p don't have it because they have aluminum body's. You can go get a Qi pad to stick to your device under the case. Thats what ill do I prefer metal unibody design for its strength and that means giving up Qi but we can get it back thanks to smart internet people haha
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I bought a 5X for my fem and forgot to check if they implemented Qi. They didn't.
I added the Qi - USB-C patch and it worked more or less hidden inside the protective case of rubber&plastic.
But what if I need both Qi and USB-C available (for development or so)?
Much better to have both the Qi and the connection port for external backup or movie watching.
sms2000 said:
I bought a 5X for my fem and forgot to check if they implemented Qi. They didn't.
I added the Qi - USB-C patch and it worked more or less hidden inside the protective case of rubber&plastic.
But what if I need both Qi and USB-C available (for development or so)?
Much better to have both the Qi and the connection port for external backup or movie watching.
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There are Qi patches with USB c pass through just look around on Amazon.
OK ,We are 14 now , lets get to Lenova and submit the request for 6X
I'd like to update the CPU/GPU as Qualcomm has officially announced the Snapdragon 835 haha
If the sells for the Pixel don't "jive" what with google expects, I could see the Nexus line come back in 2 years.
Hi guys,
Count me in I wish I could add a fingerprint reader to my Nexus 6. Also a nice addition would be a 20mp sony camera, an Iris sensor, an IR blaster and to top it off I would like a glass back cover!
Love,
Syed
saa1618 said:
Hi guys,
Count me in I wish I could add a fingerprint reader to my Nexus 6. Also a nice addition would be a 20mp sony camera, an Iris sensor, an IR blaster and to top it off I would like a glass back cover!
Love,
Syed
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I'm sorry, I don't think I agree with you there. That would be too much like a Galaxy Note...
I feel like the Moto X Pure is as close as we would get to an updated Nexus 6. I am really hoping the Moto X Pure 2017 carries the same body style as its 2015 predecessor, but everything we have seen thus far seems to indicate that it will be aluminum without front facing speakers.
I do wish that Motorola would produce some kind of Moto X Pure / Nexus 6 phone today with improved internals and a fingerprint sensor where the Moto M dimple is. Keep the front the same, dual front speakers are a must. Upgrade the internals to today's specs, and I would finally be ready to upgrade my N6. Until then, I will continue to be happy with my phone, sluggish as it is starting to get.
Moto can't do anything anymore as it's only a name on a phone , sadly Motorola as we knew it is dead.
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Xiaomi Poco F1, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Xiaomi Poco F1 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
After using the phone for almost a day, I must say that the battery life is amazing. 10 hours of SOT is something I had never heard before but after using the phone, I'm more than impressed with the battery life. PS: on WiFi, over 80 apps installed.
Adityameena70 said:
After using the phone for almost a day, I must say that the battery life is amazing. 10 hours of SOT is something I had never heard before but after using the phone, I'm more than impressed with the battery life. PS: on WiFi, over 80 apps installed.
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I am more interested in SOT when using 4G all day. Anything above 5 hours would be awesome. 10 hours of SOT with WiFi is nothing short of an achievement.
Ruvy said:
I am more interested in SOT when using 4G all day. Anything above 5 hours would be awesome. 10 hours of SOT with WiFi is nothing short of an achievement.
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Well I have got 7+ hours of SOT with 4G. Mainly setting up new apps, playing PubG and watching youtube.
Got thru 4 gb of data in those 7+ hrs , so yes I am pretty happy.
Now on 85%battery after 1.5 hrs SOT and 1 hr of calls.
Not too shabby
Well, I like Poco f1 a lot because of the amazing battery
But the call output through loudspeaker could be much better and so could be the display touch latency...I mean I don't expect 50ms like an iPhone but the response of this phone left much to desire. It doesn't lag, apps open quickly, switching between apps is smooth. You just feel disappointed when you scroll up and down quickly through app dower or web page. I think my nexus 5 was more responsive in this aspect. I'm not sure as it's dead now so can't campare side by side now.
I tried increasing pointer speed under settings, but it didn't do anything. It's probably for external devices such as mouse, but I tried anyway.
Lastly, I saw drop test of Poco f1 from 3 ft on youtube which broke it after single drop! The case provided in box is lose, so have to buy a body armor. I just wish they had used gorilla glass 5 like in mi a2. Mi a2 did survive a couple of drops in drop test uploaded on YouTube. I know gorilla glass is scratch resistant and isn't really shatterproof but still!
What's the use of a great phone if it's gonna break its screen on the first drop which is gonna happen sooner or later?!
It's already heavy so body armor will increase its weight even more...I also doubt that full screen swipe gesture controls won't work if the armor edges rise above the phone edges!
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But the call output through loudspeaker could be much better and so could be the display touch latency...I mean I don't expect 50ms like an iPhone but the response of this phone left much to desire. It doesn't lag, apps open quickly, switching between apps is smooth. You just feel disappointed when you scroll up and down quickly through app dower or web page. I think my nexus 5 was more responsive in this aspect. I'm not sure as it's dead now so can't campare side by side now.
I tried increasing pointer speed under settings, but it didn't do anything. It's probably for external devices such as mouse, but I tried anyway.
Lastly, I saw drop test of Poco f1 from 3 ft on youtube which broke it after single drop! The case provided in box is lose, so have to buy a body armor. I just wish they had used gorilla glass 5 like in mi a2. Mi a2 did survive a couple of drops in drop test uploaded on YouTube. I know gorilla glass is scratch resistant and isn't really shatterproof but still!
What's the use of a great phone if it's gonna break its screen on the first drop which is gonna happen sooner or later?!
It's already heavy so body armor will increase its weight even more...I also doubt that full screen swipe gesture controls won't work if the armor edges rise above the phone edges!
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I thought I was the only one seeing YouTube videos on 60fps PUBG Gameplay and noticed touch latency is really high. Mi5 user here. Do you think poco f1 is a worthy upgrade over it? Want to use it for PUBG but the latency breaks my heart.
The love for it increases day by day!
I was seriously not a great fan of the notch n gestures..... But guess what now I'm loving it!!!
The time n battery with signal indicators around the notch is a great way to use the space.
Face unlock is the best thing that ever happened to me!
The gestures on this phone is amazing, but the back gesture has to be more efficient as the screen protector Kinda interefere??
N lastly the speed... It's fast!
Only thing I'm waiting for is the notifications n battery percentage for notification panels. Hopefully they update it fast.
Hi, does it have notifications in ambient display? While screen is off I mean
firas1886 said:
Hi, does it have notifications in ambient display? While screen is off I mean
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There is no ambient /always on display on the phone yet, not sure if this is something a dev could make the mod for
Yes I love my F1
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I've been using this phone extensively for a week. Mine is a 6gb RAM + 64gb ROM. To sum it up, I give this a 4 star out of 5, where the missing 1 star goes to all the software bugs, big notch and overly rounded edges. Pocophone could have executed the big notch and overly rounded edges better if they had better UI, but for now, even some system UI cannot be seen or cut halfway. Overall, it is a fast, ambitious phone that gave the rest of the flagship a run for its money with its impressive hardware that actually truly reflected in daily use of the phone like heat dissipation is pretty quick on this phone, charging speed is acceptable, phone speed is quick but I do find that ram management could still improve. The camera is so so, even my Huawei P9 from 2 years ago can be a contender to this phone.
Eh. I get 2 days SOT with cellular network on with my Redmi Note 4 which has 4100 MhA. Compared to this Poco should have gotten double of that battery It would be an awesome phone. SOT is everything to me after efficiency. It's a no go.
Pocophone F1 fingerprint issue
Hello,
I just bought a new one Pocophone F1 last Friday and the fingerprint identification does not work. I add my fingerprint to the phone but it does not open the locked screen.
Have anyone idea what can I do to solve the issue? Or is it a factory defective?
Thank you for your answer in advance.
Regards,
Balázs
szenteb said:
Hello,
I just bought a new one Pocophone F1 last Friday and the fingerprint identification does not work. I add my fingerprint to the phone but it does not open the locked screen.
Have anyone idea what can I do to solve the issue? Or is it a factory defective?
Thank you for your answer in advance.
Regards,
Balázs
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Hi,
Factory reset was solved the problem. It seems working fine.
Overall 8/10
Priceworthy 10/10
Cons
- Speaker is a bit weird
- No 4g (T-Mobile) USA
- Plastic back (I hope third party companies at least make custom backs)
- On stock rom when sun directly hits the screen, it becomes high contrast? (Fixed on custom rom)
Pros
- Battery
- Price
- CPU
- Speed
- Developer friendly
- Camera
- Does Not burn your hands
- Face unlock ( no face unlock on roms yet)
Overall i love this phone, second xiaomi phone and im impressed.
I've been using Poco for a month now. Although I think it's pretty awesome for the price, I have a feeling they should have executed some things a little bit better.
Poco reminds me of the day the Oneplus One came out, which was a little bit more competitive at the time.
Don't get me wrong, Poco is a phenomenal device but there are a few drawbacks, especially software bugs that are ruining the real life usage on some occasions.
Previously I used MI 6, which I still have, and it was probably the best android phone I ever owned, and I owned a lot of them. It was the reason I fell in love with Xiaomi for offering excellent devices at competitive prices, excellent hardware, frequent updates and dev support. Hell, even MI 5 is a joy to use these days due to phenomenal support.
After my experiences with Samsung/Huawei/Sony/Motorola etc. my conclusion is that only Xiaomi and Oneplus are devices worth the money, and not because of the cheaper price, but because of real life usage.
To get back on the subject, my MI 6 flies in comparison to Poco, it feels much snappier, touch sensitivity is much better, camera experience is similar. Poco's best feature for now, at least for me is the battery. I cannot kill this thing. I get 7 to 9h of SOT every time, and it's a real treat knowing I don't have to check battery level every time I leave the house for a longer period of time.
If Xiaomi fixes a few software bugs (and they will), this will be a real flagship, no matter of the price. Some things are not so visually pleasing, notch is too wide, screen corners are too round etc., but everything is working as it should, hopefully even better with future updates.
Some companies executed this "affordable flagship" category a little bit better, like Meizu. Take a look at their Meizu 16th (Snapdragon 845, 8gb RAM, notchless amoled display,premium build, etc) for almost the same price, but I wouldn't advise owning it, assuming support will not be so good.
My point is, even the cheapest "top spec" phones have competition, and first impression is the one that counts the most. People are picky, and small things matter. Xiaomi should benefit from these small complaints upon release od Poco f2.
Conclusion: If you need to upgrade go for the MI 8 since price difference is not so big anymore. Go for the Poco only if you need above average battery life.
Thank you
Touchscreen sucks. Laggy and inaccurate.
After two days of testing, I have to say the phone is really fast.
However, they could have set a bit different priorities as this is not an official "play" phone:
They could have used only 4gb ram and raised the price like 1%. In exchange they could have included optical image stabilization and nfc (nfc costs like 2$).
For me this two features would have been a great improvement. Also they should remove the strange 3 days waiting time to unlock the phone.
These are minor complaints and I think the phone was a good purchase.
Awesome