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Hello I have just recently began looking into the idea of a UMPC. I look at the stats on these and they seem decent at least some of them with 1 gig of ram and what not. Can these devices function as a laptop/desktop/pda replacement or have they not made it that far yet?
Device is intresting but it is no voice capable and no built GPS
http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/26/htc-shift-the-cellphone-company-finally-goes-umpc/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsItEPFEn8M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK3VAAm1GrY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuNOV2StRog
if you want an UMPC and you want voice, then you may like the HTC X9500 (AKA "Shangri-la")
pbocsak said:
if you want an UMPC and you want voice, then you may like the HTC X9500 (AKA "Shangri-la")
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It has now been confirmed that the shift can make voice calls.
See the thread in the Athena forum for a link to a new video showing the phone pad on the shift.
ive seen a UMPC with the built in GPS and the voice functionality. Im just asking if this can run all the programs that a pc can. Like will i be able to active snyc a PPC. I have stumbled upon an interesting site that has quite a bit of affordable UMPCs...
http://www.dynamism.com/htc-shift/pricing.shtml
Shift is a bit pricey on this site.
Hell no!
It's a glorified comms device - that's all.
If you think even a little bit that it can replace even a fraction of your PC usage, you're gonna be very dissapointed and waste a ton of cash.
Office apps are extremely limited, and non-PPC software is simply a no-no.
This was much covered in the days of the Universal, and things have not improved much I'm afraid.
Forget it! Can't be clearer.
"Office apps are extremely limited, and non-PPC software is simply a no-no."
if it's running vista non ppc software should be no prob
of cause aero would not work nor any apps which required any kind of directx stuff
HELLO
Rudegar said:
"Office apps are extremely limited, and non-PPC software is simply a no-no."
if it's running vista non ppc software should be no prob
of cause aero would not work nor any apps which required any kind of directx stuff
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yes it does run areo and will be able to hack a full wm6 not me but other developers will be able to it will be a great device full vista wm6 phone and maybe gps no one has confired that or not yet !!
spzero said:
yes it does run areo and will be able to hack a full wm6 not me but other developers will be able to it will be a great device full vista wm6 phone and maybe gps no one has confired that or not yet !!
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do you really think it will make WM6 and phone working ? I'm so sad to see that there is no ability to receive and give calls... and no ability to have WM applications .. it's so sad that the "fake WM6" is just like a wallpaper and a mail reader and nothing more
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do you really think it will make WM6 and phone working ? I'm so sad to see that there is no ability to receive and give calls... and no ability to have WM applications .. it's so sad that the "fake WM6" is just like a wallpaper and a mail reader and nothing more
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just check out the athena upgrading forums and read the thread on shift making phone calls
Even if it does not make phone calls out of the box, It will probably be hackable after a few weeks.
If HTC decided to put SnapVue because of marketing reason, there should be a full rom floating somewhere. It's impossible they didn't try one at first stage of development.
If it's for technical reason, then the problem certainly lie in the component sharing between the PPC part and vista. These component are:
Wifi: Must be shared and will probably be a problem to activate on both side. We must find a way to alternate it's switch.
Bluetooth: Same as wifi, but may support dual access as bluetooth can set up multiple connections
GPS: If it's desactivated, there will be the same work as for the artemys hopefully
SnapVue is a WM6 system trying to limit itself. It's not a real operating system build from ground. I'm sure it is crying to go back to normal WM6 state once we add the necessary system files.
thaihugo said:
Even if it does not make phone calls out of the box, It will probably be hackable after a few weeks.
If HTC decided to put SnapVue because of marketing reason, there should be a full rom floating somewhere. It's impossible they didn't try one at first stage of development.
If it's for technical reason, then the problem certainly lie in the component sharing between the PPC part and vista. These component are:
Wifi: Must be shared and will probably be a problem to activate on both side. We must find a way to alternate it's switch.
Bluetooth: Same as wifi, but may support dual access as bluetooth can set up multiple connections
GPS: If it's desactivated, there will be the same work as for the artemys hopefully
SnapVue is a WM6 system trying to limit itself. It's not a real operating system build from ground. I'm sure it is crying to go back to normal WM6 state once we add the necessary system files.
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wow u guys are living under rocks or something? the athena's snapvue is like the htc home plugin. go into the athena mobile 6 forum. i have it included as a addon for the athena. the athena will have a phone AND gps. yes me and oli have access to the rom. has been mentioned before. no you can't have it. it can go back to normal wm6. disable the plugin in settings and change the tsk. you can also get the menu back and stuff. this can be done by i guess running the cab for athena. the original cab we made during development had the startmenu and all gone. it was built into the dlls to hide softkeys and start menu. if u run the cab i believe all will be back. if u guys want a rom for shift. u know where to find me.
pbocsak said:
if you want an UMPC and you want voice, then you may like the HTC X9500 (AKA "Shangri-la")
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aka shift
Pawel062 said:
wow u guys are living under rocks or something? the athena's snapvue is like the htc home plugin. go into the athena mobile 6 forum. i have it included as a addon for the athena. the athena will have a phone AND gps. yes me and oli have access to the rom. has been mentioned before. no you can't have it. it can go back to normal wm6. disable the plugin in settings and change the tsk. you can also get the menu back and stuff. this can be done by i guess running the cab for athena. the original cab we made during development had the startmenu and all gone. it was built into the dlls to hide softkeys and start menu. if u run the cab i believe all will be back. if u guys want a rom for shift. u know where to find me.
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well..... I'm not 100% convinced by everything .. the Shift I have used does not show anything in the SnapVue ... no IE, no explorer, ... nothing to be able to download a cab or to install a cab... maybe synchronizing ? but I think that it can't be synchronized ...... so how? .. I have seen 2 shifts and both were not able of reading SMS and receiving or giving a call.
I will keep tune in this thread since the phone is out this month .. and will see how it works for others... I hope we will be able to put a phone on it and GPS and anything else.... but I think even without that the HTC SHIFT issss the best choice for a small notebook and it is clearly THE BEST CHOICE for an umpc.
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well..... I'm not 100% convinced by everything .. the Shift I have used does not show anything in the SnapVue ... no IE, no explorer, ... nothing to be able to download a cab or to install a cab... maybe synchronizing ? but I think that it can't be synchronized ...... so how? .. I have seen 2 shifts and both were not able of reading SMS and receiving or giving a call.
I will keep tune in this thread since the phone is out this month .. and will see how it works for others... I hope we will be able to put a phone on it and GPS and anything else.... but I think even without that the HTC SHIFT issss the best choice for a small notebook and it is clearly THE BEST CHOICE for an umpc.
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idk are u reading what i said correctly? I dont need to put phone or gps on it. IT HAS IT!! like i said if u run the cab it should open the windows up to have a start menu and all that. internet explorer and all that are in the phone. maybe they want u though to only have in wm6 what isnt in vista. if u think about it vista has ie and all that.
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idk are u reading what i said correctly? I dont need to put phone or gps on it. IT HAS IT!! like i said if u run the cab it should open the windows up to have a start menu and all that. internet explorer and all that are in the phone. maybe they want u though to only have in wm6 what isnt in vista. if u think about it vista has ie and all that.
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i'm not talking about ADDING a phone or a gps ... but about downloading "THE" cab you are talking about... and installing this cab.. I have used the Shift a little .. and it seems that there is no way to access the SnapVue ... just use the snapvue.. but impossible to see something behind it ... no explorer, no I.E. ... and I think that it can't be synchronized with a computer.
surely it would be possible to hard reset the snapview side and before customizations take place and install sbnap view soft reset then use total commander to get any other cabs from the extended rom that we need ??? (but ive not seen even a sample unit in the flesh i assume this is do_able?)
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surely it would be possible to hard reset the snapview side and before customizations take place and install sbnap view soft reset then use total commander to get any other cabs from the extended rom that we need ??? (but ive not seen even a sample unit in the flesh i assume this is do_able?)
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Sorry to bust your bubble but SnapVue is a part of the ROM... but so long as the device will happily sync away with Activesync, we should be in business.
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Sorry to bust your bubble but SnapVue is a part of the ROM... but so long as the device will happily sync away with Activesync, we should be in business.
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Hey no problem just hope it can be cracked and hacked away at till we get a usable device
I want to buy one... is it avalible yet. i saw something about it being released in europe already...
Hello All,
This is NiCK Carty from www.PocketPC-Live.com and I was here in xda for a very long time at the Artemis and Kaiser sections serving the community, even released a couple of slim Roms for Artemis (HTC P3300). Now that I have got myself a new HTC Athena (dopod U1000) after being impressed by the processor 624 Mhz Intel, I will enter this section now.
My first impressions on the device, it's damn good, probably better option to those who look for a UMPC.
As a welcome note, I would like to give 7 copies of my software Ultimate Theft Alert v35! (recently optimized for Athena under real VGA 128 dpi). The next 7 replies to this post will be eligible for the free offer. Download the trial version from here and mail me for Product keys.
I would love to hear your suggestions for my software.
Regards,
Carty..
Carty said:
Hello All,
This is NiCK Carty from www.PocketPC-Live.com and I was here in xda for a very long time at the Artemis and Kaiser sections serving the community, even released a couple of slim Roms for Artemis (HTC P3300). Now that I have got myself a new HTC Athena (dopod U1000) after being impressed by the processor 624 Mhz Intel, I will enter this section now.
My first impressions on the device, it's damn good, probably better option to those who look for a UMPC.
As a welcome note, I would like to give 7 copies of my software Ultimate Theft Alert v35! (recently optimized for Athena under real VGA 128 dpi). The next 7 replies to this post will be eligible for the free offer. Download the trial version from here and mail me for Product keys.
I would love to hear your suggestions for my software.
Regards,
Carty..
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Hello again Nick. You may not remember me, but I emailed you maybe a month ago, concerning mobile browsing on your webpage. Anyway , welcome and i look forward to trying your software.
Sounds good
Sounds good hope i am one of the 7 to receive a copy, [email protected]
Thanks again
Andy
Your program sounds great, I would love to give it a try. [email protected]
i didn't want to post twice, but i think he wants you to email him for the registration key.
i am replying to this for free software
Hey, good to have you here. Would also like a key to your program.
thanks a lot
[email protected]
Hi:
Am I so lucky to get a free license too?
Thank you
Richard
Hi,
Hope I'm not too late for this. My email is [email protected]. Thanks! Welcome to the club.
damn , just missed out!
Anyway, welcome to the athena!
Bugger! I was just reading a review of this after someone mentioned it on MoDaCo
Sent the keys to all 7 replies...
Regards,
Carty..
lakeman said:
damn , just missed out!
Anyway, welcome to the athena!
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Thank you. I hope to serve the community with the little knowledge I have.
Regards,
Carty..
For some reason my download crashes whenever I try to install it. It doesn't even open. I unziped the file and it's not running.
Did you open the unzipped file on a desktop PC? It has to be copied to Pocket PC and executed there!
Regards,
Carty..
Carty said:
Did you open the unzipped file on a desktop PC? It has to be copied to Pocket PC and executed there!
Regards,
Carty..
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Stupid me, that's what the problem was.
Well I missed out but would like to Welcome you back here Nick. I use WIMP now but yours seems so much better. I will have to try it out...TJ
Carty said:
Sent the keys to all 7 replies...
Regards,
Carty..
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Thanks Carty for your free gift. Will try it out tonight when I get some free time.
Edit: okay, installed it. It looks really really good. I like it better than WIMP if the monitoring integration can be installed.
I have a few questions.
1) I entered +614XXXXXXXX as my number to call when the phone is stolen, but it does not accept it. Why is this so? What if a SIM card of another country is inserted when we travel?
2) Often the top taskbar disappear. Do you have this problem? I also find that I'm unable to minimise it or switch to other applications when used in conjunction with wktask.
3) How do we make it possible for the problem to survive a hard reset?
4) How about letting the seven of us have the GPS and monitoring integration also? Or at least the monitoring integration. I like your concept of monitoring very much. I have been using WIMP in the past with GPS, but I find the GPS location to be too rough to be useful. I think the monitoring concept gives us much better chance of recovering the phone than WIMP would allow.
Fantastic application! Thanks again.
TrekkerJmm said:
Well I missed out but would like to Welcome you back here Nick. I use WIMP now but yours seems so much better. I will have to try it out...TJ
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Thank you
eaglesteve said:
Thanks Carty for your free gift.
1) I entered +614XXXXXXXX as my number to call when the phone is stolen, but it does not accept it. Why is this so? What if a SIM card of another country is inserted when we travel?
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Replace + with 00. Eg: 00614XXX Try it and let me known. It is the issue with some service providers who dont accept the format of message sent with certain parameters.
eaglesteve said:
2) Often the top taskbar disappear. Do you have this problem? I also find that I'm unable to minimise it or switch to other applications when used in conjunction with wktask.
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The application is made to take the full screen hiding the Start bar. This is only when you're in the Admin panel making some configurations. So for a few minutes, you can sacrifice Start ar ?
Or do you think the application doesnt bring back Start bar even after closing?
eaglesteve said:
3) How do we make it possible for the problem to survive a hard reset?
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Details available here
eaglesteve said:
Fantastic application! Thanks again.
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Your most welcomed
Regards,
Carty..
Depending on in which country the phone is stolen, the international prefix is different. But + is the universally acceptable prefix to replace all these prefix. That's why I thought it would be the correct way to set up the number.
BTW, I tried testing it. Unfortunately it does not seem to be sending out any SMS alert to the listed mobile phone number when I put in a SIM card which has not been added to the database yet. Are any of the other six users having this problem?
Also, when I tried to set up the customized text, the software abended with an error message saying "An unexpected error has occured in UTAv35.exe. Select Quite and then restart this program, or select Details for more informaiton" . When I select Details, I see the following information:
UTAv35.exe
NullReferenceException
at UTAv35.Form1.Button19_Click()
at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick()
at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick()
at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBasel.WnProc()
at System.Windows.Forms.Control._InternalWnProc()
at Microsoft.AGL.Forms.EVL.EnterMainLoop()
at System.Windows.Forms.Application.Run()
at UTAv35.Form1.Main()
I wonder if this (the inability to set up customise text, hence it is blank) is the reason why no alert message was sent?
I just got my T Mobile HTC HD2 so far I'm liking it, a LOT to do still figuring it out, so is there a how to guide for newbies?
Also there's some apps I find that I really need
1. I need a app where I can mange my music straight from my phone cause I download and buy from itunes, the problem I'm having is deleting music from my phone I hate connecting my phone to my pc and then searching threw my music list and deleting that song, any suggestions?
Also I have no intentions of "flashing" my HTC mainly cause I don't wanna risk bricking my phone
Thank you in advance!
The phone has a File Explorer and you can delete stuff with it.
Here's a tweak guide for beginners. I dunno who wrote it but it's pretty good.
Omg thank you that thread helped me out a LOT!!!
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I dunno who wrote it but it's pretty good.
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my laptop doesnt recognize my htc hd2
ok i have a dell laptop running windows vista
i dont have software cd for htc hd2
when i connect using usb phone to laptop,,,,comp tells me that had trouble installing device so its not installed properly
please help.............................................. ................
i looked up on another thread and i can sync phone until computer recognizes phone
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sixfootlouie said:
ok i have a dell laptop running windows vista
i dont have software cd for htc hd2
when i connect using usb phone to laptop,,,,comp tells me that had trouble installing device so its not installed properly
please help.............................................. ................
i looked up on another thread and i can sync phone until computer recognizes phone
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you need activesync
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/help/synchronize/device-synch.mspx
YOU can also check out my blog here: http://htchd2fansite.blogspot.com/
is dedicated 100% to the HTC HD2 with tons of simplify content!
I have noticed that Microsoft has removed the Auto-Redial function from windows 8. It was available in windows 7.
I have a Dial up connection and i need Auto-Redial
Any tweak or 3rd party software for this purpose?
You should try the little application I coded, might help. Windows 8 Redialer
mayday help!!!
ankit_sam said:
You should try the little application I coded, might help. Windows 8 Redialer
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Can you please give a link to your windows redialer software can not find it anywhere..and your site is dead
saifssj6 said:
Can you please give a link to your windows redialer software can not find it anywhere..and your site is dead
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Website working fine:
http://www.ankitsharma.info/softwares/windows8-redialer
Here is the direct download link:
http://www.ankitsharma.info/softwares/windows8-redialer/Win8-Redialer.zip
Thanks
Thanks for lovely software bro
I downloaded your s/w using kproxy proxy sites because your site is being blocked by many isp i am using docomo, tikona bb..
Thnks for sharing it bro
:good:
saifssj6 said:
Can you please give a link to your windows redialer software can not find it anywhere..and your site is dead
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Hey man, replying almost a year late. Thank you for the link to utility. Just logged in after a long long time and appreciate your help
Hi, I'm trying to resurrect my HTC Shift but I can't find the drivers online anymore. Does anyone have them and want to share?
Check your inbox.
Flanimal said:
Check your inbox.
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Thanks. Wonderful. You made my day.
jdavidgea said:
Thanks. Wonderful. You made my day.
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Please where do you find the drivers? Can you tell me?
Flanimal said:
Check your inbox.
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Please where do you find the drivers? Can you tell me?
I'm about to bring back my htc shift too... anybody in 2020 with any luck installing windows 10?
I ran with Windows 10 until recently, but had to give up on it as it was too bogged down by background updates and telemetry. If you can turn everything off it should be usuable, but I reverted back to WIndows and decided to use my Shift as a permanently offline retro machine.
Flanimal said:
Check your inbox.
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Your sir, are the BEST.
Cant make touchscreen work
Only in SnapVue
johnybigode said:
Your sir, are the BEST.
Cant make touchscreen work
Only in SnapVue
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Don't worry, the touchscreen will eventually work in Windows 7&10 eventually, you just have to keep faffing. Once it works, it keeps working forevermore.
I can't remember the specifics, but I would recommend to keep doing the following in no particular i.e. random order:
install "VistaECDrvV"
install Intel VGA Driver
Install "TouchScreen"
run resolution changer exe (or change the resolution from the shift control centre)
If you keep trying the above and have no joy, you may have more luck with the Sherry graphics driver, which seems to be more sophisticated (it allows Flight Simulator X to run!)
At some point it might start blue screening, but just keep doing the above in various different order and eventually all will be well. If necessary boot into safe mode to undo whatever caused the bluescreening and try a different order.
The fact that the touchscreen is working in SnapVue shows that there is no hardware issue.
It will eventually work, but how much time you want to spend trying is up to you.
Which OS are you running by the way? I'm running Windows 7. Windows doesn't work with the wifi driver without further faffing, covered elsewhere in this forum, but I can point you directly to it if need be.
Good luck and have fun, and if the fun stops, stop!