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Hello Guys
I wonder if any of you here is an oldschool nerd that would love (like myself) to have an MSX emulator on their Pocket PC
Anyone is up for this?!
I really would love to play Zanac & Castle on my PPC, anyone has the time & knowledge to do this?
Hope you all had a nice weekend!
All the best
Emulator
I found these
http://www.zophar.net/ppc/msx.html
I tried them both, they both run on my Universal but both could not run the ROMs I loved & still love (I play with them sometimes on my laptop with a special MSX emulator )
Have any of you tried these before?!
Can I be rude and ask if anyone is interested in the first place? As I didn't get any reply to the topic (when I thought that the site is full of old school nerds like myself )
Cheers Mates!!
Yeh that would be a good thing.
While me mates had speccies, i had a good old msx! Never waited for games to load like me mates had to cos of the good old cartridge slot! Hehe!
Kings Valley 2 anyone?
tomchap said:
Yeh that would be a good thing.
Kings Valley 2 anyone?
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That was an excellent choice mate!
I myself however prefer Castle, Castle Excellent & Zanac
These were my favorite games (still are lol)
So did you got the chance to try the MSX emulators I have refered to in the previous post? Did they work with you? Do you need Kings Valley 2 ROM file? LOL
Cheers Mate!
Well im at work so will try them later on tonight, my pc is playing up at home so have to get that sorted first.
Nemesis 2 was also a great game, along with F1 Spirit and Knightmare! Hehe! The memories, theyre all flooding back!
Got a few roms thanks, used to use them on me laptop, before i sold it! hehe!
Which msx did you have? I had the toshiba and then the pioneer.
Well im at work so will try them later on tonight, my pc is playing up at home so have to get that sorted first.
Nemesis 2 was also a great game, along with F1 Spirit and Knightmare! Hehe! The memories, theyre all flooding back!
Got a few roms thanks, used to use them on me laptop, before i sold it! hehe!
Which msx did you have? I had the toshiba and then the pioneer.
hey did anyone manage to complete salamander's level 6 on their msx?
i never managed to kill the last guardian in level 6?
i also tried to see if using salamander with nemesis II would give the secret new level which would enable me to beat the guardian in level 6 would work, but no luck?
can one play these games on the universal?
hey did anyone manage to complete salamander's level 6 on their msx?
i never managed to kill the last guardian in level 6?
i also tried to see if using salamander with nemesis II would give the secret new level which would enable me to beat the guardian in level 6 would work, but no luck?
can one play these games on the universal?
tomchap said:
Well im at work so will try them later on tonight, my pc is playing up at home so have to get that sorted first.
Nemesis 2 was also a great game, along with F1 Spirit and Knightmare! Hehe! The memories, theyre all flooding back!
Got a few roms thanks, used to use them on me laptop, before i sold it! hehe!
Which msx did you have? I had the toshiba and then the pioneer.
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I hope your PC is sorted out now & that had the time to try the emulators, please update us when you can.
As for my MSX it was Yamaha
Have a nice weekend
Cheers
xda_guy said:
hey did anyone manage to complete salamander's level 6 on their msx?
i never managed to kill the last guardian in level 6?
i also tried to see if using salamander with nemesis II would give the secret new level which would enable me to beat the guardian in level 6 would work, but no luck?
can one play these games on the universal?
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Hello xda_guy,
Well well well LOL, finally I found the nerd generation I belong to
As for Salamandar I couldn't play that because if I remember well, it needed MSX2 and mine was plain old MSX so wouldn't run it
However if you want I remember there is an emulator for PC that has cheating feature in, where you NEVER die if you are curious to see whats after level 6
As for being able to play it on Universal, well this is why the original post is all about, if you check my post where I put a URL, you will find that there are two different MSX emulators for PocketPC, the problem is I tried them both, they both run on my Universal without error messages, but they did NOT operate any ROM (Read Only Memory which are binary file images of the cartridges we used to use in the MSX era, I am not talking about the Universal ROM), so if you got the chance to try them both, and see if they work with you, maybe something is wrong in my Universal ROM, or if I am doing something wrong way, or if I am missing something.
Please whatever you find out, share it with us & maybe if it works, we can organize a nostalgic championship on who would finish a game first or who would go further or anything like that.
Until then, have a great weekend
Cheers
hey cerberu
you finally did find the nerd gen, i am surprised that so many of us had msx computers, my mates only had commodores's and ibm compatible's
i had a sony hitbit 32KB, i believe that was msx. I am just getting used to my universal, so have not downloaded any emulators, do i just download it and install like any other application?
will keep you posted soon as i manage to get something going, have a nice weekend
xda_guy said:
hey cerberu
you finally did find the nerd gen, i am surprised that so many of us had msx computers, my mates only had commodores's and ibm compatible's
i had a sony hitbit 32KB, i believe that was msx. I am just getting used to my universal, so have not downloaded any emulators, do i just download it and install like any other application?
will keep you posted soon as i manage to get something going, have a nice weekend
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Hi xda_guy
I am glad I did
I am starting to think a nerd once, a nerd forever LOL
My friends had commodores & sinclairs, then later on some had MSX, as for IBM compatible, they were VERY expensive that era, as with MSX you could use your TV for display so it was more home oriented.
Anyways if I remember well mine was Yamaha AX170 with 64kB (it is funny how these GREAT games (back then at least) were but a few kBs.
As for the emulators it's not even installation, all you need to do is to download them, then copy them into your storage card or device memory, then run them, you will get the usual warning as it can not identify the software publisher, you can run them and they wont ruin your Universal (they didnt ruin mine), the problem is that I believe they were written for previous version of Windows Mobile, thats why I couldnt get them to operate any ROM, my friend is coming back after the weekend from 12 days business trip, he has an i-mate PDA2k, so I will try it on his PocketPC & see, if you had better luck yourself please tell me what did you exactly do, then we will start a Championship (though my boss wont like it for sure LOL).
Finally I would like to add, I found a stand alone VERY old game from Atari 2600 Generation (remember that big black box? Or am I getting back way too back in time? LOL) I was saying I found a PAC-MAN game that is working ok on my Universal, it does not need emulator or anything, it is a stand alone application, if you are interested (or anyone else) please let me know and I will provide the link or upload it.
Have a nice weekend (or what is left of it)
Cheers & Good night!
hi
i have got a good mind to chane my handle to hitbit_guy , yes, i was using a 14 inch sony as my display yamaha ax170 was more advanced than the sony hitbit if i am not mistaken.
atari2600, that is the original, ah yars revenge was my fave, then along came the atari clone's wow, at some point, the 2600 stood for the number of games "pre-installed". pac-man, yes, very much interested, show me the link. my office mates will be interested
xda_guy said:
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i have got a good mind to chane my handle to hitbit_guy , yes, i was using a 14 inch sony as my display yamaha ax170 was more advanced than the sony hitbit if i am not mistaken.
atari2600, that is the original, ah yars revenge was my fave, then along came the atari clone's wow, at some point, the 2600 stood for the number of games "pre-installed". pac-man, yes, very much interested, show me the link. my office mates will be interested
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As for display, I used our 20" Sony Trinitron TV (that was really something back then lol, imagine playing your favorite games on that huge display ), I tried to find Emulator for Atari as well LOL, I found one that is distributed as an open source, and I asked a friend who works as games programmer for cellphones to port it for Windows Mobile 2005, will let you know when he is done (if ever LOL), mean while enjoy this (you & your office mates :twisted: dont let the boss catch you LOL)
Good night mate!
thanks for pacman, does it run on hp devices too?
alpha squad, load runner were neat too(there even was a rambo game), however could not get beyond a certain level, the lack of a save functionality on msx killed the chances of completing the games.
i think what will be real cool is playing games during meetings
xda_guy said:
thanks for pacman, does it run on hp devices too?
alpha squad, load runner were neat too(there even was a rambo game), however could not get beyond a certain level, the lack of a save functionality on msx killed the chances of completing the games.
i think what will be real cool is playing games during meetings
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Good day xda_guy
I am glad you like it, I don't know if it runs on HP devices as I've never tried that, I don't know what their CPU is, and I don't know if it has to do with that, I tried to look for the site of where I got the Pac Man from but I wasn't able to, anyways if I remember well it was designed (if I am not wrong) for ARM CPUs, if HP uses ARM, then I guess since its same software & same hardware, I guess it would work, anyways, you can wait till tomorrow & let one of your office mates with HP PPC try it & let us know
As for Load Runner, absolutely true, it was one of the games I liked (I like puzzle & brainteasing games) the only thing I hated about Load Runner was it lacked music, and it's characters were way too small even for the 20" TV display LOL.
Rambo, nope not my style but my friends liked it, and yes I agree that save game was a missing very important feature, Castle & Castle Excellent did have save game (they charge you for one life to save though), I am trying to remember, did Kings Valley had codes on which you can start from next level if you finished them successfully, or was it just 'The Lost Viking' game for Amiga & PC that did that?!
Have a nice weekend (or what is left of it)
Cheers
hey cerberus
wil try pacman on the hp and will let you know, perhaps it was compiled for the unversal platform and will nto work on the hp?
i never heard of castle/castle excellent, one game that i managed to finish and liked a lot was magical whiz kid
have a nice weekend
xda_guy said:
hey cerberus
wil try pacman on the hp and will let you know, perhaps it was compiled for the unversal platform and will nto work on the hp?
i never heard of castle/castle excellent, one game that i managed to finish and liked a lot was magical whiz kid
have a nice weekend
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Hey xda_guy
to be honest, this is the first time EVER since I've joined XDA Developers, that I came to such shock, I was literally :shock: :shock: :shock: you dont know castle & castle excellent??!!!
Dude the main reason I want MSX emulator is because I never had the chance to finish Castle Excellent back them (I did finish Castle though), you might want to check these links
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Castle_(game)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Excellent
You know the word addiction?! Castle games were my addiction back then (not that things changed much since that time LOL, like I said earlier, a nerd once a nerd forever )
Now whenever the MSX Emulator works for our Universal, I want to ask you to download Castle & we will play & he who finishes first is the winner.
As for HP & PacMan please post your experience here, it might not help me myself as I dont have HP, but it might help others who might want to try the game on their PPC.
Have a great last few hours of weekend
Hello xda_guy
any updates?!
Hello cereberus
sorry for the late reply. work has been a nightmare last one week
i checked out castle, looks interesting and addictive , unfortunately work has taken up most of my time, will install the emulator tomorrow and give it a whirl.
i dont think my colleague tried pacman on hp, he was overwhelmed with work, the boss is away next week so i will ask him to give it a try if he has not tried already
My Kaspersky is detecting a trojan in this rooting file:
Exploit.Linux.Lotoor.g
See attached screen-shot;
Let me know if this is in fact a false positive...?
RATC.bin is teh exploit used to root your phone...
It's a false positive. Promise.
Geniusdog254 said:
It's a false positive. Promise.
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It's not a false positive, the exploit that we use works just like any trojan - it provides back-door access to the system. We're just using a virus to crack open the system long enough to install a more permanent access to root.
That's right, viruses aren't necessarily bad - it just depends on how they're used
It is in deed a real virus, but it won't do much to your windows system other than piss off your av software... Could jump to linux and not worry about viruses...at least very few. Yes they exist, but rarely affecting a personal computer.
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yeah true true. virus by deffinition yes. but technically anything can be defined as a "virus" by allowing access to "alter" the original programming to allow access to functions other than what the manufacturer intended. dont worry. most antivirus's find a virus in anything. a key generator shows up as a virus. dont worry. your safe.
Kcarpenter said:
It is in deed a real virus, but it won't do much to your windows system other than piss off your av software... Could jump to linux and not worry about viruses...at least very few. Yes they exist, but rarely affecting a personal computer.
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What you wrote makes no sense, the reason the anti-virus detects it as a trojan is because it includes exploit code to obtain root in LINUX. It won't do anything to a windows box but it can completely own a vulnerable linux box. So telling someone they would need to switch to linux in order to avoid this exploit is ridiculous.
correct it obtains root, but do you understand how? the whole reason it works is by exploiting adb so unless you happen to have the phone version of adb included in your linux build i would think this is pretty harmless
shabbypenguin said:
correct it obtains root, but do you understand how? the whole reason it works is by exploiting adb so unless you happen to have the phone version of adb included in your linux build i would think this is pretty harmless
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YES, but the reason I responded to that last post was because he was telling someone to switch from windows to linux in order to avoid a linux exploit. There are plenty of valid reasons to switch, but that would have to be the stupidest one I have ever seen put forth.
shabbypenguin said:
correct it obtains root, but do you understand how? the whole reason it works is by exploiting adb so unless you happen to have the phone version of adb included in your linux build i would think this is pretty harmless
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The exploitation of adb is used to get the RATM file on the phone... then RATM uses an exploit in the linux kernel to gain root access. I'm pretty sure RATM isn't using adb to do its magic. What I don't know, is if it is exploiting a part of the kernel that is android specific, or a part that is in every linux kernel
shabbypenguin said:
correct it obtains root, but do you understand how? the whole reason it works is by exploiting adb so unless you happen to have the phone version of adb included in your linux build i would think this is pretty harmless
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shabbypenguin is right guys... you can't hack regular linux with this... so don't worry about it, and move on...
just be sure to reactivate your antivirus after using it.
DRockstar said:
shabbypenguin is right guys... you can't hack regular linux with this... so don't worry about it, and move on...
just be sure to reactivate your antivirus after using it.
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The exploitation of adb is used to get the RATM file on the phone... then RATM uses an exploit in the linux kernel to gain root access. I'm pretty sure RATM isn't using adb to do its magic. What I don't know, is if it is exploiting a part of the kernel that is android specific, or a part that is in every linux kernel
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It's busting open the adb daemon on the phone, which runs as root. It'll do nothing to a desktop linux box unless you have an ARMv7 powered desktop running an Android specific kernel
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It's busting open the adb daemon on the phone, which runs as root. It'll do nothing to a desktop linux box unless you have an ARMv7 powered desktop running an Android specific kernel
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Omg that's what I have I'm screwed
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lol told you to upgrade to ARMv8
Tomatoe... Tomato.
Geniusdog254 said:
It's busting open the adb daemon on the phone, which runs as root. It'll do nothing to a desktop linux box unless you have an ARMv7 powered desktop running an Android specific kernel
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That makes perfect sense, thanks for the clarification (and for not being a **** about it, as is so often a problem in the Epic forums...)
richse said:
What you wrote makes no sense, the reason the anti-virus detects it as a trojan is because it includes exploit code to obtain root in LINUX. It won't do anything to a windows box but it can completely own a vulnerable linux box. So telling someone they would need to switch to linux in order to avoid this exploit is ridiculous.
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As has been stated, its not a linux exploit. Its an adb exploit, quit trying to associate things and sound smarter than you are. Just because your shirt is red, and your car is red doesn't mean you can drive your shirt. what I said makes perfect sense.
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Kcarpenter said:
Just because your shirt is red, and your car is red doesn't mean you can drive your shirt.
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Funniest thing I've read all day!
swiftdr said:
Funniest thing I've read all day!
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Necrophilia is illegal.
k0nane said:
Necrophilia is illegal.
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That's not what the guy running the hospital morgue told me.
I changed to NIS and it doesn't say squat about it.
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Hey guys. I recently installed Ubuntu on a old laptop I had. And my phone would still mount in mass storage mode for file transfer. Well Ubuntu was a little slow on my laptop so I did a fresh install of Xuvuntu to try to speed things up. When I tried to mount my phone a usb drive came up called png and would not fully mount. Any ideas on what may be causing this?
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There are some issues with xubuntu. I would recommend regular ubuntu or linux mint for novice users. On those distros turn all settings down to minimum and it should run as smooth as xubuntu.
what is your system specs?
I'm trying to learn as much as I can because I want to help support linux users on here. I don't see a lot of support for linux on here.
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My laptop is an ibm r40 with a pent 4 1.3ghz and 512 ram. So almost equal to my phone. I was a mac user till my logicboard died last Dec and pulled this ibm out. On a side note a usb thumb drive I had works just fine on this computer. I can't understand why it won't work with my phone. The only reason I switched from ubuntu to xubuntu was because my wife complained that the computer (facebook) was too slow... you can't argue with a 9 month preg. Woman so I tried to find a solution and came across xubuntu. I am deff a noob when it comes to linux but I really like the whole idea of the community and open source to further the project and don't want to have to go back to windows but it may be my only choice if I want preformance and my wife to be happy and my phone to mount...
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Lol I understand. My wife is happy with our linux machine. She didn't like it at first, but it sounds like a driver problem for you. Xubuntu does that sometimes. I'll look into it some more.
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So I decided to go back to regular ubuntu but would like to know how to turn down some settings to get the best preformance. I know this is the wrong place but I figure I can find the right people to help
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I'm an avid xubuntu user and don't have any problems... but if worst came to worst I would write a little script to mount the phone manually and link it to a hotkey if you use it often. Keep this thread updated with details and I'll try to help.
What does the output of 'sudo lsusb' & 'sudo fdisk -l' say?
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Ugmoe I have a question. Is there another way to install cwm besides one click script in linux? I installed a pre rooted rom and now the script doest work to install cwm. Any suggestions?
Now to OP, at the top of the screen you need to go to your system settings and find, its been awhile since I've used the ubuntu distro, its either display or performance. And set effects to none. Try that. Il get a version installed and help further.
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You're over my head. I am brand new to linux. I am a quick learner but have just started at zero. I decided to just go back to ubuntu which I know works. Its a shame because I could tell that xubuntu ran faster. Maybe ill give it another shot when I get my wife her own computer just for her facebook and photos. I am real intrested in learning linux and have been for some time. I just have to find the right starting point and fit it in between work a wife a two year old and a new born next week...
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What ugmoe is saying is
step 1) in the drop down menus on the desktop, look for accessories - terminal
Step 2) type in "sudo lsusb' & 'sudo fdisk -l" without the quotes
Step 3) copy what is returned from that command and paste it here please
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What ugmoe is saying is
step 1) in the drop down menus on the desktop, look for accessories - terminal
Step 2) type in "sudo lsusb' & 'sudo fdisk -l" without the quotes
Step 3) copy what is returned from that command and paste it here please
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To mxcoldhit -- thanks for the translation. As far as the one click root /CWM installation I too haven't found a single script to work. What I usually do is crack-open the 'run.sh' scripts included with the one click roots and manually enter certain commands from the scripts on the CLI (or command line interface for you linux newbies ). I've found that option to work whenever I need to get/regain root. It also helps to boost your familiarity with what is actually going on behind the scenes.... which for me is one of the reasons I made the switch to Linux so many years ago.
to abmcbride85 -- the setting that mxcoldhit was referring to is located under System --> Preferences --> Appearance --> Visual Effects --> NONE . This will turn off any signs of compiz to go easy on your graphics card (or processor if you don't have a GPU in that particular machine). I jump around between all the different desktop environments from fluxbox, xubuntu, gnome, and everything in between. I have a certain softspot for Xubuntu though... Easier to configure and use then fluxbox with a good bit of the speed as well with just enough customization options to satisfy most of my needs. Xubuntu can be quirky though for a new user, certain things just don't work as you may expect, and unless you're determined to understand/workaround/fix those things I would recommend sticking with gnome. Hunt through your startup programs under SYSTEM --> Preferences --> Startup Applications and uncheck anything you don't use -- A little guess and check might be necessary here if you're not familiar with all the applications in there.
Thank you ugmoe, I don't think about that lol. So all ill need to do is look for the commands that install cwm and run those commands to install cwm? I haven't installed the android developer kit yet. Do I need to do that before hand? I'm going to install it later down the road anyways because I want to help the linux community here.
Edit: have you ever used heimdall?
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Kinda a side note but my phone only mounts under ubuntu if usb debug is on.
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Thats strange. Have you ran that command yet? If not do that and paste the results for us please
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Ok, so Ubuntu and now Debian can run on HD2. It's great, it's amazing but is it any use?
Why would you need a software designed for a pc to work on a device with less than 4 ro 5 times the screen size and with so less buttons?
I am by no means going against this, I am just thinking what use could this be.
No tomatoes please.
1. Make your phone cooler
2. You have a new "computer"
PC in a pocket. there are things that a full desktop environment can do, that a mobile one cannot. there are tools available to desktop PC's that haven't been ported to mobile ones for lack of necessity.
personally i do a lot of side job computer repair for friends and such, and it would be a lot nicer to have my phone double as a laptop, rather than carry around my actual laptop wherever i go. of course i dont always need my laptop when i do repairs, but sometimes i do for one reason or another.
so having a much more mobile and lightweight alternative to that is a very big bonus. and of course like the previous post.... it it pretty fun to show off ;-)
Uhh dude, why not? Why put a differnet rom on a phone, because its Great to do that and give ya a good feeling about it, even beter if you can make one.
Same here, its cool, its something else, its sweet.
ofcourse, doing things directly to the phone is way more trouble than having a laptop but you can leave some automatizations like 1click script to have your ssh or ftp server. or just place a test http site to show to your client on its own pc and you have it ready on the go. there are millions of posibilities. is up to you how far you can go.
Well, I can only really think of one application fire me. I work at subway and my boss wants us to take courses at subway university, which is online. But they aren't supported by my mobile browser, so having a quick ubuntu desktop on my phone would provide the advantage to study when I'm not at home. But other than that, ubuntu is just awesome!
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It's more advanced in many aspects, though it could be annoying sometimes
Ok, but why?
Because we can
Because HD2 is King.....
And a King can have any number of queens....
If you have to ask this question ("why"), then u really don't get xda-developer
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You could run it as a Server. Strong processor, very little power consumption.
For example.
you forget one thing. you're not forced to put it on the device!
No one is forcing you to change to android or install WP7. yet you might go for them because they offer you more eye candy, applications, or just because you want to.
and that's what people here are doing. simply one more option for people who need a portable PC OS, for fun, or because they need it.
hardik1us said:
Because HD2 is King.....
And a King can have any number of queens....
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+1, HD2 is king of kings
hopkinskong said:
1. Make your phone cooler
2. You have a new "computer"
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That's intersting, but i want know, it's the "computer" everything worked fine!
Because if i can't used it make a call,or send msm, that's too bad.
bu the way, how can i get it? thanks!
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because hd2 is king.....
And a king can have any number of queens....
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国王可以有任意数量的皇后~哈哈,x:d
I like ubuntu on my home computer, but its a little awkward on my hd2... still, its so awesome to be able to do so many things with the hd2!!!
You can use it as a server, very very very low consumption. It did the trick for me (mail + web, very light, very fast!)
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That's intersting, but i want know, it's the "computer" everything worked fine!
Because if i can't used it make a call,or send msm, that's too bad.
bu the way, how can i get it? thanks!
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You don't make phone calls with a computer do you.
I think the most attracting part is to plug in some keyboard and mouse, fire up some commands through terminal over the mobile network -- A dream machine!!!
WHY!? Cause you can. why do some people have like 10 hauses, 50 cars, 5 boats... 2 planes. cause they can. thats why android, wm6.1, wm 6.5.x, mwp7,7.5, ubuntu... cause we can
...and what was the point of that? Most, of us here have been using Windows 8 for months.
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...and what was the point of that? Most, of us here have been using Windows 8 for months.
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Speak for yourself... It's not coming anywhere near my machine until Metro is gone. I've tried ClassicShell and it's ok, but I'm not really to become a statistic that says it's ok for the removal of user choice (whether to use Metro or not).
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Speak for yourself... It's not coming anywhere near my machine until Metro is gone. I've tried ClassicShell and it's ok, but I'm not really to become a statistic that says it's ok for the removal of user choice (whether to use Metro or not).
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Actually he speaks for most of the competent user base of this forum, you know, the Windows 8 forum.
Windows 8 is what its is and that isn't going to change in the next couple of days including the funky new efficient interface, but you are right, you do have a choice, as do we all, ill stand by mine on this forum, the Windows 8 forum, the Windows 8 OS that has "metro" built in, the windows 8 you have chosen to not want and you can stand by that choice.... just Mind the door on the way out
Kryten2k35 said:
Speak for yourself... It's not coming anywhere near my machine until Metro is gone. I've tried ClassicShell and it's ok, but I'm not really to become a statistic that says it's ok for the removal of user choice (whether to use Metro or not).
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if u dont like the metro interface.. why update to Windows 8?
Like i've seen someone else say.... people have to look at it a different way than "Oh, Microsoft just f*cked up the desktop with sh*tty Metro". They didn't. Metro is basically the Start menu.... the same place that everyone normally had to go to launch an app if they didn't have a shortcut on the desktop to being with.
elementaldragon said:
Like i've seen someone else say.... people have to look at it a different way than "Oh, Microsoft just f*cked up the desktop with sh*tty Metro". They didn't. Metro is basically the Start menu.... the same place that everyone normally had to go to launch an app if they didn't have a shortcut on the desktop to being with.
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Not entirely true, but you can surely look at it this way. But those who say MSFT ****ed up are essentially the same bunch who moaned about XP, Vista and Windows 7. You can't win them. They'll moan and sell their kidneys to buy Apple products and then moan there and cycle goes on.
To each their own.