Hi guys today im going to buy the S10+ Exynos and after reading all the bad things about the battery and camera im not sure anymore.
Is the battery life on idle going to be fixed? Is the lower quality of camera in the Exynos version is going to be fixed too?
Between the OnePlus 7 pro and the S10+ Exynos which would you choose?
Oneplus has had the worst camera of any major smartphone brand for several years running which is why the XDA section for every OnePlus phone has very active threads about using various builds of the ported Google Pixel Camera--you can't take even decent pictures on a OnePlus phone without a ported camera app.
If photography is your concern considering a OnePlus phone is a joke.
Anyone who has owned a OnePlus phone over the last few years should also know that standby battery drain is a frequent problem on their phones--especially after any OTA update.
The only advantage the OnePlus phone will have is if you want to run a custom ROM because there will be more ROMs available for their phones--but since developers stopped using OnePlus phones after the 3T model the ROMs are computer compiled with virtually no testing and always have bugs (sometimes major ones) even when they are labeled as stable.
My vote isn't for the OnePlus phone in case that isn't obvious enough.
I have both a 7 pro and a S10+. I find myself reaching for the 7 pro a lot more. Oxygen OS is just lightweight and fast, you can expect bi monthly updates for atleast 2 years.
Oneplus has pushed several updates for the camera and I find the camera solid. You can get better results with installing gcam but a lot of S10 owners do the same.
I just took delivery of a 10+ Exynos and the camera is excellent in my opinion.
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I'd highly recommend the S10+.
I moved from an iPhone 8 plus and don't regret it. Battery life is amazing and the camera is amazing as well. No issues here.
I recall seeing a setting somewhere on my S10+ for a battery save option that learns your usage patterns and helps get the best battery life. Battery optimiser I think it was. Not sure how good it is though. Never needed it.
Can't argue with the points about the OnePlus 7 Pro either. Tested one in store and the experience was buttery smooth. The 90hz display makes a ton of difference.
In the end, I felt OxygenOS on the OnePlus was too simplistic for me after using the S10+ first. Just my personal opinion though. If I hadn't tried the S10 first I probably would have went OnePlus
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Been fighting with myself inside my head for my next phone since my old S3 is now property of my GF, so today i woke up and just ordered a GSM Dev Edition Moto X.
And i do not regret my decision knowing that the Nexus 5 may be released in 3 days.
So, what is up Moto X forum. :laugh:
Welcome!
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Welcome!
You won't regret it. The general consensus is that this device is pretty amazing. Most people get great battery life (my average is 18hrs off charge 4-5hrs screen, mix in games voice calls etc), the ones that aren't, are suffering from standby drain (this may be due to the initial enabling of location tracking settings, discovered by Kev1000000, it's being tested). You will love active notifications, for such a seemingly simple feature... it's life changing. Always listening is also great, if you are like me and always wanted to use voice commands but was always left disappointed and frustrated, then you are in for a treat, this phone actually works extremely well, even in noisy conditions.
I also came from an sgs3, the difference is night and day, in battery, performance, comfort and how I interact with the device... I'm sure that you will not be disappointed.
Development is not quite here yet, but that's not necessarily a bad sign, this phone has been the best experience out of the box that I have ever had... Speaking as a recovering flashoholic, I am enjoying having a phone that is awesome right out of the gate. I feel that once 4.4 releases, we will see more activity, but with safestrap being released and root available, in sure things will be coming down the pipe line soon, but this phone doesn't really need it.
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I agree with the above post. This is the first Android phone I have ever bought and not felt a strong urge to screw around with it immediately.
Very happy so far...
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Indeed, welcome! Many moto features can be done with 3rd party apps. But they either drain battery fast, or not very smooth. Ever since I owned moto, my N4 has been so very lonely
thank you everyone.
gotta start reading the guides and terms here, coming from a Galaxy S, S2, S3 so i know all the samsung terms and stuff but now i gotta onboard myself with the Moto X apps, and modes.
as for dev, it will be here eventually, for my flashing problems i got my Nexus 7.
can't wait to get my device in here, stupid motorola and their 7 day shipping.
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Hello there, Dev Edition :3
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Hello there, Dev Edition :3
In case you don't venture into the main N4 forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/firmware-update-n910fxxu1dol3-hungary-t3265043
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They are giving us the new Touchwiz icons that look like they are the result of Touchwiz being raped and getting a back alley abortion. Nooooooooooo. I hope they at least include themes so that we can hide that mess. Then again, by the time this is actually released by Verizon, I assume a lot of us will have already moved on to non Samsung phones.
I think the biggest UI upgrade I can recall occuring on a Samsung device was maybe when the OG Note got Jellybean and looked fairly similar to the Note II and picked up some new features. Otherwise, Samsung has traditionally let as little as possible trickle down from their latest flagships to "last year's" model when doing updates---look at the Note 4 or the Note 3 Lollipop situation , for example. Neither phone was as smooth or as refined under Lollipop as it was under KitKat (I do not recall if the Note 3 was better under JB or KK). I certainly do not expect things like theme support or manual camera modes to ever trickle down to the Note 4. I'll just be glad to get its RF and battery performance back to where it was with KitKat.
I highly, highly doubt we ever see this.
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His demo phone seems to be very laggy as hell with MM 6.0. Hopefully by the time we getting this it should be better.
It looks like it has a few things I might like. But the icons, dear lord are they bad. Way to iPhoneish for my liking.
The settings menu looks decent to me though.
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It looks like it has a few things I might like. But the icons, dear lord are they bad. Way to iPhoneish for my liking.
The settings menu looks decent to me though.
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Exactly why I hope they throw in themes. I hope somebody asks on the youtube page. He's been answering questions. (I tried to ask, but youtube won't let me sign in since I deleted G+ and my YT channel.)
Hey everyone
Touchwiz used to be heavy and to consume to much a few years ago.
In the developers options menu, I saw something called "Profil de rendu GPU" (in french, it should be something like GPU rendering profile in english). With this option, I can see on screen how much my GPU is used (I think it's how it works ^^)
So I enabled this option with my Nougat (beta 6) Galaxy S7 edge, here is the result :
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Then, I tried the same with my Galaxy S5 running an AOSP ROM, so no Touchwiz, and here is the result :
I tried the same experiment with a Nexus 5X and a Xiaomi Redmi Note 3, and witt both of these phones I got the same result as my S5.
Can anyone explain me where is the difference between these 2 images coming from ?
Thanks
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its not really good news, shows system is struggling to keep up with constant 60 fps unfortunately
And yet I've never seen under 50-60fps on my S7 edge, even in intensive use
So, why is this system struggling to keep constant 60fps ? Is it because of touchwiz ? Isn't Touchwiz better than before ?
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And yet I've never seen under 50-60fps on my S7 edge, even in intensive use
So, why is this system struggling to keep constant 60fps ? Is it because of touchwiz ? Isn't Touchwiz better than before ?
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It should be under the green line for stutter free smooth 60fps experience. This is like frame timing... higher than the green line = more ms to render the frames = less than 60fps... if it's a lot higher you will start to notice it as you move/scroll/etc.
YEAH. AND I'VE REPORTED IT SEVERAL TIMES DURING BETA.
But noone seems to care though. Even though I asked for help from xda...
Micro-stuttering is an issue with TouchWiz, believe it or not. And no matter how much optimization and improvement they promise each year, it's still the same.
I'm using the official nougat beta right now and I can affirm the following:
1. Massive keyboard lag
2. Home screen stuttering even when feeds page is off.
3. Overall the UI feels quicker and smoother than Marshmallow. But no way you can call it butter smooth.
Frankly, I guess I've had enough of Samsung. Been using S and Note Series flagships since the S2 days and now tired of this bull****. I mean how come a 10 thousand bucks phone feel smoother in operation than this 60K phone? Only samsung knows. The only reason I'm holding on to S7 edge is the design.
#FedUp
Okay thanks everyone for the explaination
I agree, Touchwiz isn't the smoothest ROM I've used and I'd love to see many stable AOSP-based ROMs for the Exynos S7 edge... I'm frustrated because of it, because I love flashing and changing ROMs ^^
I got it too thanks to its design and I hope that many others manufacturers will release innovative design this year so I can switch and leave Samsung
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I Think that the second screenshot shows a cached result, notice that it has lighter colors. So that's not a fair comparison.
Okay as the title suggests, my post is all about whether the prime of our phone is behind it and it's time to cash on the phone and move to a new beast where development is very much active be it from the community with cust roms or the creators and their stock rom. I mean if I look at the pace of how things are going on Oreo compared to how things went on Nougat, there's a world of a difference. Besides our specs are starting to lag behind, so is it still worth to hold on the Redmi Note 3 SD or it's time to move onto a new beast?!
I'm still in love with my Redmi Note 3, I never had problems with it. It was always easy to remove the Bootloop, the battery after almost 2 years is still perfect, I have no lags, I can change ROM whenever I want. I would not change it for anything.
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Specs are starting to lag behind? How come? Most of the devices in this price range still use snapdragon 625 or even less if it's from some manufacturer like Samsung, Nokia and so on. Don't be ridiculous... Redmi Note 3 was ahead of its time when it comes to price to performance ratio and it still holds up today pretty well. Samsung a8 which is brand new and more expensive has the exact same Antutu score as redmi note 3 and redmi note 3 is from 2016. I would choose Note 3 every day of the week.
OP, Can you mention any device that has more Oreo custom roms than Kenzo/Kate? Because i haven't really found any.
No, i'm not agree with you. Kenzo still beast.
Until Xiaomi starting to use 660 or it successors for redmi, i don't think to upgrade my device. I just not really care about SD 61x, 62x, or 63x series. That what i'm thinking about..
(Or maybe its time to thinking xiaomi's flagship then, coz think it impossible to xiaomi using 66x or it successor for redmi series.. ?)
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Hi Guys,
I was thinking about buying a one plus 8 pro but heard there is a possibility of 8 t pro coming. I wanted to ask is it worth it to wait for the t model or if I should buy it when I find a good offer for the 8 pro?
The difference will be small incremental changes / updates, the 8 is already a pretty much perfect phone, I cannot fault it; maybe the battery if anything.
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Screen will remain the same
Size will remain the same
Speakers will remain the same
Battery may / should get a bump
RAM will remain the same
Storage will remain the same
Connectivity will remain the same
Photochrom will be dropped entirely
Buffs / changes
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Price will see a bump
Charging speed will get a bump
Camera bump from 48 - 64MP
Front camera may get moved to centre or an additional one added, won't be a pop up.
CPU / GPU will be the + variant, honestly at this point it matters a lot less than it would have a few years back, the 865 standard is so powerful the bump to the + may be negligible unless they retain performance and really work on the stamina but I can't see it
Design of the phone may change slightly
New camera lens will take place of photochrom, perhaps fish eye or similar
On a personal note, I wouldn't get the 8T as I already have the 8, for you I would say; if the battery doesn't get a major bump then I'd go with the 8.
Plus the price will drop when the 8T is near it's launch or even announcement making it the obvious choice.
Then again, that's my opinion, it's up to you.
Also all the rumours at this point are just rumours, if you want a good idea of what the device will be like, look out for the next oppo flagship as it's usually a strong indicator of what will be next for OnePlus.
OnePlus bring a phone out every 6 months, however for the first time there is literally nothing that the CPU / GPU cannot run perfectly, there is no need for more speed now, strange territory, will be interesting to see if they keep buffing the performance or work on efficiency, the latter would be the logical choice but I guess time will tell.
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