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Hi all,
I bought my (German WM, standard ROM) Shift about 4 months ago, and have spent a lot of time getting it working “just how I want it”. That’s been very successful. I’ve had a huge amount of help, both from here and in German language Shift forums, so now maybe I can give something back.
My Shift has:
Windows 7 Ultimate English
2mb memory
128gb SDD
SHAGCtrl with working buttons
Resolution changer with working buttons
EVERYTHING is working – Wi-Fi, NDIS GSM, Bluetooth. The power management (hibernate etc.) is faultless. My Shift is really fast, super useful, and I carry it at all times. I love my Shift - a machine that was discontinued before its time. HTC?
My wife likes my Shift so much I had to buy her one as well, that’s not (yet) upgraded giving me a great chance to compare side-by-side, modified and un-modified. I didn’t try to differentiate between performance changes due to upgrading to W7, upgrading memory or upgrading to the SSD, as I only wanted to dismantle my Shift once!
Using the built-in Windows 7 “Performance Information and Tools”, the standard and modded Shift were identical EXCEPT:
Memory (RAM) subscore DROPPED from 3.7 on standard to only 3.4 on modded. I don’t know why, maybe the 2gb module is slower?
Primary hard disk subscore went from 3.7 to a massive 6.1!
As far as I can tell, the SDD makes NO DIFFERENCE to battery life – it’s just a whole lot faster!
The 2gb Shift with 128gb SSD takes just 0:42 seconds from power-on to “Press Ctrl-Alt-Delete”.
The 1gb Shift with original disk takes an eternal 1:45! The modded Shift is MUCH snappier and is a pleasure to use.
I believe Windows 7 instead of Vista, 2gb instead of 1 and the SSD ALL made a difference. Of course, this was not a cheap exercise, but the resulting Shift is still a pretty unique device and it’s up to you if you want to spend so much as well.
Problems? Yes. My wife is German-speaking so I tried to install the optional German language pack. That killed SHAGCtrl completely and I haven’t found a solution yet. Also (and this is really obscure), we access a hosted Microsoft Exchange server for our emails. This connection requires you to configure a HTTP proxy in Outlook, to connect to the server. This failed on logon with an odd error message containing “cannot find TILES”! After a lot of work, I found that the Shift’s fingerprint scanner was interfering with sending the password to the Exchange server. Uninstalling the VitalKey software fixed this – I can do without the fingerprint scanner. You are unlikely to encounter this unless you too access an Exchange server from Outlook with HTTP proxy.
OK, the details.
The most useful tool you can BUY when attempting this is a copy of Acronis True Image. Take frequent images so you can go back when it all goes wrong – and this is very likely, however careful you are. Saves a huge amount of time. Note that the original recovery partition remains intact, so you can always go back to Vista, up to the point you change the disk.
Attach the Shift USB network dongle and ensure that all radio devices are enabled (Wi-Fi, GSM and Bluetooth) before starting with installation of W7. I even found a memory card and plugged that in. This is so that W7 finds and installs drivers for everything during the install.
Since my Shift initially had a working copy of (German) Vista running on it, I found a USB memory stick and installed True Image in Vista, writing a bootable copy to the Nano mentioned below, so that I could boot directly into True Image using the F10 key. I also attached a large USB hard disk to store (and restore) images. Guess you could also boot TrueImage from that, however I used a Nano 8gb USB flash drive (http://www.memorydepot.com/details.asp?id=NANOUSB-16G) for True Image as this can remain attached afterwards and the Shift still fits in its slip case. These Nano drives are available from many vendors with different names but seem to be all the same device.
I installed W7 from yet another USB stick, having first copied all the install files from the MS W7 with SP1 DVD. Creating this USB stick is well-documented elsewhere and very worthwhile as it is much faster than attaching a USB DVD drive. Mine was a clean install, not an upgrade from Vista. I could never make the upgrade route work!
Boot (F10) from the W7 installation stick and follow EXACTLY the process at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=513638. I downloaded and placed all drivers in individual folders preceded by the “a. b. etc.” to be sure of installing them in the correct order.
Once you have a working W7, SWITCH OFF AERO before going any further and certainly before installing any HTC stuff, by selecting a non-Aero screen background. Take an Acronis image at this point.
Be sure to follow the advice given in the post referred to above – install ONLY the downloaded HTC drivers, in the order given, run as administrator, with Vista compatibility mode. DON’T install any other updates or drivers yet.
I will not repeat the instructions in the post referred to above, but will just repeat, IF YOU FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS EXACTLY, it will work!
The parts.
I found both the memory and the SSD on eBay. Please don’t post questions like “Is this SDD XYZ suitable?” – I don’t know and won’t answer! This is what I bought and it works.
My 128gb SSD came from a vendor named “ventures_cn1”. The item description was “1.8" 128GB ZIF SSD*OQO 02/E2*DELL D420/D430 *SAMSUNG Q1”. At this date (October 2010) he’s still selling them at (ouch) $333.00. I believe small and bigger capacities are also available, correspondingly cheaper (and dearer)! The few questions I had were answered very quickly and shipping was both fast and reasonable.
My 2gb memory came from a vendor named “mem-store”. The description was “2GB DDR2 214pin Micro Dimm MicroDIMM Memory HTC SHIFT”. At this date (October 2010) he’s still selling them at (ouch again) $189.00 plus a hefty $25.99 for international UPS.
Both vendors were very responsive and I would not hesitate to buy again.
However…
CAUTION – I don’t know if the following is correct – try at your own risk! The memory module came in the usual sealed anti-static package, but with a large anti-static handling warning stuck over the original Kingston memory type label. I carefully peeled that off and that revealed a damaged Kingston type number label, which (I think) said “KTD-INSP6000B/2G”. A Google search reveals that this part number is a 200-pin SO-DIMM DDR2 667MHz module, apparently used in some Dell laptops, and available at a lot less than $189 plus $26!
Maybe some brave soul can try buying this and post the results here? TRY AT YOUR OWN RISK! I will not accept any responsibility if this does not work!
I used the guide also at XDA Developers to dismantle the Shift. This takes some care and if you are clumsy you might want someone else to tackle it. The case is eggshell thin and very easy to break, especially around the openings, particularly the air vents on the back. You need a tool to help pry apart the case – DON’T use anything metal. I used a soft pointed wooden stick stolen from the kitchen, used for Kebabs I think. Even then there were a few marks on the back of the case. Fortunately you don’t have to entirely dismantle the Shift as described in the guide, just the first few steps. In particular, be careful not to get finger grease on the adhesive tape used to secure the ZIF ribbon cable to the hard drive socket – you need to reuse that to ensure the (very fragile and hard to find) flat disk cable does not pull out of the ZIF socket a little leaving you with a “No disk” BIOS error. From memory the paper label on the SSD needs to be visible when the disk is installed, as it’s not clear which way around it should be. I tried both ways, managing to temporarily reinstall memory and battery so that I could see the new disk was recognised by the BIOS. I suggest you test in the same way, only re-attaching the tape once you are sure the disk is recognised.
Lastly, I use a Microsoft Wireless Notebook Presenter Mouse 9000 with the Shift. This comes with a Bluetooth dongle, but that’s not needed as the mouse works fine with the Shift’s own Bluetooth. It is also small and has a nice hard carry case
OK, I think that’s about all.
If you have questions relating to the above, please ask, but please try not to ask non-related questions or dumb questions about installing W7 or Shift in general.
Richard S.
Switzerland, October 2010.
Absolutely beautiful, RSargeant. Congratulations and thank you for sharing your experience back on the forum. Great!
What about the Windows Mobile side of the Shift, what are you using over there?
All the best!
Note: the second link that you provided leads to >HTC Shift > Shift General. Was it your intention to point only to the general surface or did you want to go deeper to a particular thread (as I expected) and the link is wrong?
Thanks for that Axel. Link corrected.
On the WM side, I'm using the original German 6.1 ROM (5.2.1620, build 18125.0.4.2) (1.30.407.0 GER) which I've "soft" liberated. I'm tempted to try a hacked ROM, but ask myself what useful (to me) functionality I'd gain. GPS is seductive on that big screen, but my Eten X800 + CoPilot is already very good and there's no memory for maps. I can already surf and check my emails on the WM side whilst benefitting from the very long battery life when not running W7, so the risks don't bring me personally much benefit. I'll think about it.
That brings me to a good point. During this 4 month struggle, I had to ignore my usual urges to immediately upodate drivers as soon as Windows update announced them, especially device drivers. The Shift always worked before the update, and often didn't work afterwards. Case in point - I downloaded and installed the latest touchpad drivers. Afterwards, the ShagCTRL and Resolution buttons no longer worked. System restore... Newer drivers are not always better! Acronis and system restore are your friends!
RS
Thanks, great guide!
Will include it on [REF] Guides | Tutorials | FAQs | Stickies | Read here before posting thread
Great post
Great that you shared this experience with us, I think I now have the macho to embark on my own mod journey now.
Excellent, informative post, very well written.
I may have to dig my Shift out of the cupboard and have a play...
sir,Jimmit here...plz tell me where u bought htc shift frm?....it tht available anywhere in uk?...i cant get in our country in india...plz help...thanks
I bought mine secondhand from a local (Swiss) auction site. Shifts often appear on ebay, but take care to get the correct model. There are 2, the 9500 which is GSM and the 9501 which is the US CDMA model.
Good luck,
RS
What if W7 drivers are newer than the ones described in the W7 thread
Boot (F10) from the W7 installation stick and follow EXACTLY the process at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=513638. I downloaded and placed all drivers in individual folders preceded by the “a. b. etc.” to be sure of installing them in the correct order.
Hi, I have tried many times to get W7 working on the Shift but I have never been able to get it working flawlessly. I decided to try one more time once I saw your post. Question for you. I am using a Windows 7 Professional license that has a newer Intel VGA driver(7[1].14.10.1461) than the one included in the link quoted by you. Should I install the old driver? Did you ran into something like this?
Cheers
Hi,
My Windows 7 DVD came from Technet, so although I didn't check the VGA version, I am sure it was the very latest and probably newer than the (b) driver mentioned. However I simply didn't encounter any problems when I installed a), b) c) etc as in the post. Installing the b) VGA driver almost certainly overwrote that newer driver. I did check both ShagCTRL and res switch at each stage and made checkpoints as I went, just to be sure.
What problems are you having exactly? W7 is so superior on Shift it's worth perservering. I've found that my usual habit of blindly updating to newest drivers is fatal with Shift. Rule is, when it's working, don't tinker and snapshot before all changes. Example, updating to latest touchpad controllers messed up both res switch and ShagCTRL. Only the originals from HTC restored order!
Richard
Hi Richard,
I send you a PM.
Cheers
Stephan
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/MK80...ip-RK3066-Cortex-A9-Mini-PC-stick-307415.html
What everyone think? Anybody took the leap and bought it yet? I was thinking about getting one so I don't have to hookup my laptop to my TV anymore
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nice gadget!!
richeazy said:
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/MK80...ip-RK3066-Cortex-A9-Mini-PC-stick-307415.html
What everyone think? Anybody took the leap and bought it yet? I was thinking about getting one so I don't have to hookup my laptop to my TV anymore
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I got mine mk808 yesterday. I bought a mk802 in august but it "burned" after 1 week. I also think that the mk802 was very laggish... The mk808 is far much better!!!
So far I am very very very happy with it!
regards
gillidk said:
I got mine mk808 yesterday. I bought a mk802 in august but it "burned" after 1 week. I also think that the mk802 was very laggish... The mk808 is far much better!!!
So far I am very very very happy with it!
regards
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gillidk, Did you buy yours from geekbuying? How long was the delivery and which country are you
I was about to order the similar GV-20 mk808 based device from gadgetgreats but poeple have mentioned fraud etc
http://www.gadgetgreats.com/gv-20-a...i-a9-dual-core-android-4-0-mini-pc-gv-20.html
many thanks
I got mine today. I ordered it over a week ago. Weird because I didn't get my shipping information until last night, and when I tracked it, it was already out for delivery.
My Measy Air Mouse R11 is screwed though I think. It keeps sliding to the left hand side. I even tried on my PC and it does the same thing. I've tried to resync it and screw with it, but it keeps moving. Very hard to use a mouse that doesn't stay still. The MK808 is fun. I just got it tonight. I haven't had the time to get really crazy with it. Seems to run ok and would be far more enjoyable with a good input device.
Ordered mine today (only $60), if it really works as reviews say, it's quite a bargain
Do you still have problems with the rc11 or are they solved ?
send by an 42y old gio junkie™
player911 said:
I got mine today. I ordered it over a week ago. Weird because I didn't get my shipping information until last night, and when I tracked it, it was already out for delivery.
My Measy Air Mouse R11 is screwed though I think. It keeps sliding to the left hand side. I even tried on my PC and it does the same thing. I've tried to resync it and screw with it, but it keeps moving. Very hard to use a mouse that doesn't stay still. The MK808 is fun. I just got it tonight. I haven't had the time to get really crazy with it. Seems to run ok and would be far more enjoyable with a good input device.
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I fixed my Measy Air Mouse R11.
To reset the Gyros, you lay it flat and press and hold LEFT ARROW + G for a few seconds... making sure it is flat. Now it works great.
I'm having some weird issues with some misbehaving apps. Root explorer started freaking out. And now my FPse won't use OpenGL for the life of me. I'm interested in trying the CM10 build for it but the operation requirements are bland. Supposedly it requires CWM recovery, which is supplied but doesn't give specifics how or what order or process to get it done.
I have to say that it is a fun unit to work with and chews through FPse roms. I'm surprised how well it runs for a chinese chipset.
Flashing is a bit of a chore and instructions aren't very clear, so I'll post them here:
With the unit OFF:
Insert a paper clip into the reset hole and press it in and HOLD IT down.
Awkwardly insert the MicroUSB-PC cable into the OTG. This will power the unit and it should boot into Flash mode given you've held the paperclip down properly.
Trying to install eGalax Touch Screen linux driver
I'm trying to install the eGalax Touch Screen driver for Linux 2.6 that came with my liliput 7 inch touch screen. The touch screen is for use in my car. Using the mk802 II or ug808 to replace my audio system. I just need to get the driver installed. The driver installation script is looking for the locations "usr/local" and "usr/bin", but the only "usr" directory I can find is in "system/usr"... I'm not sure if I should use that location and create the local and bin directories there or not. But when I created the usr/local and usr/bin at the same level as system (which is in the "mnt" directory which is also at the same level as "root" directory (btw, I cannot find a "home" directory), the install seemed to work fine using Better Terminal Pro android app with the bash shell. However, when I restarted the device, the "usr" directory that I create was gone, so the driver install was wiped apparently, and the usb HDMI touch screen still does not work... I can post the bash script if that helps. This is the last thing I need to get this to work, then I can have a full Android ICS system in my car. Thanks in advance.
FYI The HDMI works great to view and use a usb mouse or the RII keyboard. they work great. It's just the touch screen input does not work. It used to when I first turned on the device with the touch screen on, but the x-y coordinates were reversed, hence attempting to install the driver. I have ICS compiled from source and may attempt to add the drivers into it and create an img to them load on the mk802 II, but I fear that I'll loose any proprietary hardware drivers that came with the mk802 II.
I also wanted to make a img backup using ROM Manager, but ClockworkMod is not available for the MK802 II. ANy leads on this would help. Been researching and testing this for a month now.
rscreen said:
gillidk, Did you buy yours from geekbuying? How long was the delivery and which country are you
I was about to order the similar GV-20 mk808 based device from gadgetgreats but poeple have mentioned fraud etc
http://www.gadgetgreats.com/gv-20-a...i-a9-dual-core-android-4-0-mini-pc-gv-20.html
many thanks
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Ordered on the 26th for 65$ (actually cost £42 through paypal),
they shipped on the 29th (tracking never worked).
And it arrived on the 6th. So quicker than expected.
I've applied the firmware update which was a slightly newer build of 4.1. Mentioned in both these places (applied the tweaked one from deadhp1 for the play store location fix in case needed)
http://blog.geekbuying.com/index.php/2012/11/03/mk808-mini-pc-firmware-update-on-3th-nov/
http://www.armtvtech.com/armtvtechforum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=53
It now seems to play any avi / mkv / mp4 i've given it (usually on a usb stick or micro SD). It happily plays avi's over the network (using ES file explorer).
Its definitely better than the out of sync UG802 which wasn't quite right and the power lead came out too easily.
I use the custom stock video app (seems to come with most of the RockChip devices) and MX player (it looks a lot nicer)
I was looking for a device like this one and the reviews are really helpful
Anyone know of GPS that works with these?
jcps said:
I was looking for a device like this one and the reviews are really helpful
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Anyone know of GPS (USB or embedded) that works with these? Thanks for your help.
So confused... it's a USB drive that turns a TV into an Android PC? Does the TV require any special functionality to allow for that?
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So confused... it's a USB drive that turns a TV into an Android PC? Does the TV require any special functionality to allow for that?
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It is a mini PC that has HDMI output. Your TV must have a vacant HDMI input so you can plug the mini PC into it. My TV supports 1080p. And so I can set the output resolution on the mini PC to 1080p. But it also could be set to 720p as well. These don't come with any display so you have to plug it in to your TV or a monitor that supports HDMI. The audio is pushed through the HDMI as well. To control it you can use a USB mouse and/or USB keyboard. Your cheap wireless mouse will work but the USB ports do not have power to them so I've had to use a powered USB hub to make my wireless keyboard work further than a foot away from the USB dongle for the keyboard. The hub also allows you to plug in other devices like a USB camera. But the ones that work are somewhat limited , be aware. Does that help you understand it?
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I'm trying to install the eGalax Touch Screen driver for Linux 2.6 that came with my liliput 7 inch touch screen. The touch screen is for use in my car. Using the mk802 II or ug808 to replace my audio system. I just need to get the driver installed. The driver installation script is looking for the locations "usr/local" and "usr/bin", but the only "usr" directory I can find is in "system/usr"... I'm not sure if I should use that location and create the local and bin directories there or not. But when I created the usr/local and usr/bin at the same level as system (which is in the "mnt" directory which is also at the same level as "root" directory (btw, I cannot find a "home" directory), the install seemed to work fine using Better Terminal Pro android app with the bash shell. However, when I restarted the device, the "usr" directory that I create was gone, so the driver install was wiped apparently, and the usb HDMI touch screen still does not work... I can post the bash script if that helps. This is the last thing I need to get this to work, then I can have a full Android ICS system in my car. Thanks in advance.
FYI The HDMI works great to view and use a usb mouse or the RII keyboard. they work great. It's just the touch screen input does not work. It used to when I first turned on the device with the touch screen on, but the x-y coordinates were reversed, hence attempting to install the driver. I have ICS compiled from source and may attempt to add the drivers into it and create an img to them load on the mk802 II, but I fear that I'll loose any proprietary hardware drivers that came with the mk802 II.
I also wanted to make a img backup using ROM Manager, but ClockworkMod is not available for the MK802 II. ANy leads on this would help. Been researching and testing this for a month now.
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probably you will need the kernel sources. also, you need root access. that error (directories that get lost after reboot) might be due to yo need to remount the /system partition in rw mode (by default is ro) and perhaps you will neet to do some symlinks on /bin to /system/xbin.
other thing you..must get in considwration is that android is different from linux.. and that you might need to compile the kernel module, such thiing im not sure that is posible from within the device itself...
or.. i just might be way off track, in which case jyst dismiss my answer
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Maxx57 said:
Anyone know of GPS (USB or embedded) that works with these? Thanks for your help.
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I'm very interested to know as well, I have an MK808 and would love to add a GPS dongle.
Anyone know if a headset can be paired over bt for voip calls and or voice commands and search /google now?
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Anyone know if a headset can be paired over bt for voip calls and or voice commands and search /google now?
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just so you know it doesn't have built in bluetooth.
if you need bluetooth google for imito mx1. this one seems to be the best mk808 model so far. i got mine last month but haven't tried bluetooth yet. antutu gives a score around 6500. it's a nice toy to play with on bigscreen tvs.
I read up on this one. Good vid review at http://youtu.be/X8pozwuAq7w
Anyone know the spec diff between this and the MX2?
and is geekbuying the best seller for this device or ???
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h-guy said:
if you need bluetooth google for imito mx1. this one seems to be the best mk808 model so far. i got mine last month but haven't tried bluetooth yet. antutu gives a score around 6500. it's a nice toy to play with on bigscreen tvs.
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can anyone comment on this non-support of XBMC for Rockchip? and if not Rockchip, which stick-PC gets it right?
one comment also that I would like more info on is that both iMITO units underperform compared to MK808
"Lack of XBMC support for HD hardware acceleration is a major issue that Rockchip needs to address if they want to keep selling SoC chips to the Stick PC mfgrs. Stick PC makers need 2 take action on this as well and if Rockchip won't play ball, they need to consider alternative SoC. We need more processing power anyway to get close to current smart-phone level and play the latest 3D games."
I was doing some filework on my A7+ and thought "Wouldn't it be so much better if I could just plug this damn thing directly into my computer?" So I put it in device mode, rebooted, and used a male-to-male USB cable to connect it to my PC. It didn't work, as expected, but what I did find out was the filesystem or driver system that it uses. Windows XP was trying to find drivers for a "UT-PB1" device. It couldn't, of course, so I went to the internet. I literally searched "UT PB1 USB drivers" and I got this article:
http://thetechjournal.com/electroni...raboo-ut-pb1-e-book-tablet-now-official.xhtml
(Other source: http://techcrunch.com/2011/07/22/raboo-panasonic-japan-to-launch-android-e-book-readertablet-video/ )
Look closely at the bevel, the camera and light sensor positions, and the three soft keys. (I know that the menu key is rotated 90 degrees) This weird tablet has most of the same specs as the A7+.
7-inch 1024×600 color touchscreen
Dual Core CPU (the article says that the actual chip is unknown, but I bet that it's Tegra 2)
1.3Mpix Camera
Wifi (BGN), Bluetooth
USB port (but no HDMI)
It seems that this Panasonic tablet was never released in the US. Maybe StreamTV bought a factory off of this Chinese company, and used the same basic hardware.
Just a thought. Maybe someone can do something with this, I don't know.
I ran into similar results in Win 7, however it did display a generic drive icon for the device.
I think I had USB debugging and allow mock connections on at the time for experimentation.
From what I could tell the two devices were talking to each other however I couldn't access the tablet's file system.
Do you have root setup? I do not.
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Here is a short output from ADB:
$ adb -d devices
List of devices attached
???????????? no permissions
adb -d bugreport
error: insufficient permissions for device
As far as I can tell from this, the hardware works....
Upon further review, I think I had the USB permissions incorrect in my: /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules
But after rebuilding my desktop environment for the Nth time recently, ADB is able to poll the device.
$ adb devices
List of devices attached
037c708542c0e097 device
The "$ adb -d bugreport" also works but has far too much info to post here.
Hey all! Not sure if this is the right place, but I didn't see anything specific for Nexus 6 and Nethunter. All my research so far shows that everybody who's tried hunter is very pro, but uh.. nobody seems to be talking any smack about it. No security flaws, no warnings about root, and even to some degree no real description of it's compatibility forward.
Does anyone have a list of pros and cons about Nethunter?
Maybe explain a bit about what this is? I haven't heard of it so I'm not sure if what I looked up on the intent is what you are talking about.
It's a pentesting ROM made for a few android devices (Nexus 6 now supported). Wifi hacking tools and the like preloaded and support built into the system rom and kernel for these kinds of tools. It looks pretty cool I'll have to check it out myself (on multi rom maybe). One problem I do see with it is you do need to use an external USB wifi adapter (via usb otg adapter), as the internal wifi apparently doesn't support monitor mode or packet injection which are required for many of the tools. It may be possible to add that later but given that those binaries are usually closed source (Qualcom) I'm doubting it. Still looks very cool.
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It's a pentesting ROM made for a few android devices (Nexus 6 now supported). Wifi hacking tools and the like preloaded and support built into the system rom and kernel for these kinds of tools. It looks pretty cool I'll have to check it out myself (on multi rom maybe). One problem I do see with it is you do need to use an external USB wifi adapter (via usb otg adapter), as the internal wifi apparently doesn't support monitor mode or packet injection which are required for many of the tools. It may be possible to add that later but given that those binaries are usually closed source (Qualcom) I'm doubting it. Still looks very cool.
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This isn't entirely true. It is NOT a ROM at all. It's more of a "package" type of thing. Think of it this way, you go flash CM and then have to flash Gapps after. It's the same thing for NetHunter. You flash whatever AOSP ROM you want then flash the NetHunter zip file. It will install busybox, terminal emulator, a keyboard, and a few other things along with an app named NetHunter home. It's pretty much an app to launch NetHunter tools/features/services. I'm currently running Google's factory image of Android 5.1 and have NetHunter installed.
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This isn't entirely true. It is NOT a ROM at all. It's more of a "package" type of thing. Think of it this way, you go flash CM and then have to flash Gapps after. It's the same thing for NetHunter. You flash whatever AOSP ROM you want then flash the NetHunter zip file. It will install busybox, terminal emulator, a keyboard, and a few other things along with an app named NetHunter home. It's pretty much an app to launch NetHunter tools/features/services. I'm currently running Google's factory image of Android 5.1 and have NetHunter installed.
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I stand corrected. As I said, I do need to try it. Sounds nice though if it's that universal and unobtrusive
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It may not be a full rom, but it does include a kernel. Just an fyi.
Nexus 6 Nethunter
Hey, so ive been playing arround with nethunter for acouple months now and ive been loving every moment. I think ive had it since this post came out. I have always wanted a little power house of a device that can do more than just search the internet, call and text people , and take pictures. From an easy start flashing the ROM to learning alot about Kali I must say its about time something like this came along.
For con's it doesnt come with RFCOMM support, ive been having trouble with bluetooth dongles even after days of researching the only conclusion is you will have to recompile the kernel to enable Rfcomm. Secondly also with NFC there is no mifare support, wasnt going too deep into this one, i figured it would be the same answer as Rfcomm. Thirdly some tools listed on the Kali website cannot be loaded and installed onto the Nexus like Burp Suit. There is no GTK support for GUI tools, meaning the tools you use can only be used in a terminal interface, unless you use a HTML interface and set the GUI's up somehow using a localhost. Lastly, the internal devices like WIFI bluetooth and NFC card can not be used for monitoring or injection. You must have a separate dongle. However you can change your wlan0 mac with macchanger and i believe you can clone non mifare chipsets with the built in nfc card. (Old nfc devices)
For the pro's, it is mobile with 2.6 gHz quadcore snapdragon 805 and 3Gb of ram, usual usage is 20-30% Ram keeping it clean with AllinOne Toolbox otherwise with alot running you'll use more ram. Battery watching youtube with brightness about 33% lasts 8 hrs or so but when it comes to using dictionaries for password cracking it uses 100% of your CPU so battery consumption is much greater. . . just keep it plugged in or save the files for your pc to crack. Other than that theres alot of preloaded tools and an app menu which includes HID attacks and also its own menu with SET. It also comes with acouple other apps like droid drive which you can load up any O/S from your Nexus via usb to any computer. And i also believe that it does not touch the hard drive on the pc.
So far using wifite it can crack any wep key in under 10 min WPA key in about 2 hrs. Max was about 2000 keys/sec and on average 1100 keys/sec. Using a randomly selected word from the Rockyou.txt file it took over 2.5 million keys to find it... but it was successful. You can download tools like cupp.py or crunch to customize lists to your liking. Also i havent tried it yet but reaver for wps takes roughly 4-10 hours. Any tools that use a GUI cannot be displayed properly without configuring the files your self. For say the tool driftnet it will not display the images gathered... rather you will have to save them into a file and view them separately from that file.
As far as security nmap cannot discover any open ports from a fresh install of nethunter on my home network. But Nethunter can discover many open ports on my old DV6. If uou want to stay anonymous you can use tor app.
In all if you really want a fun, powerful, mobile pentesting device this is it.
Does it support all of SET? The web server, cloning existing sites and infecting them, the email sending and so on?
I'm very interested in this rom but there's still one question for me left: if I flash it with TWRP is forced encryption on aigan?
arc.vortex said:
Hey, so ive been playing arround with nethunter for acouple months now and ive been loving every moment. I think ive had it since this post came out. I have always wanted a little power house of a device that can do more than just search the internet, call and text people , and take pictures. From an easy start flashing the ROM to learning alot about Kali I must say its about time something like this came along.
For con's it doesnt come with RFCOMM support, ive been having trouble with bluetooth dongles even after days of researching the only conclusion is you will have to recompile the kernel to enable Rfcomm. Secondly also with NFC there is no mifare support, wasnt going too deep into this one, i figured it would be the same answer as Rfcomm. Thirdly some tools listed on the Kali website cannot be loaded and installed onto the Nexus like Burp Suit. There is no GTK support for GUI tools, meaning the tools you use can only be used in a terminal interface, unless you use a HTML interface and set the GUI's up somehow using a localhost. Lastly, the internal devices like WIFI bluetooth and NFC card can not be used for monitoring or injection. You must have a separate dongle. However you can change your wlan0 mac with macchanger and i believe you can clone non mifare chipsets with the built in nfc card. (Old nfc devices)
For the pro's, it is mobile with 2.6 gHz quadcore snapdragon 805 and 3Gb of ram, usual usage is 20-30% Ram keeping it clean with AllinOne Toolbox otherwise with alot running you'll use more ram. Battery watching youtube with brightness about 33% lasts 8 hrs or so but when it comes to using dictionaries for password cracking it uses 100% of your CPU so battery consumption is much greater. . . just keep it plugged in or save the files for your pc to crack. Other than that theres alot of preloaded tools and an app menu which includes HID attacks and also its own menu with SET. It also comes with acouple other apps like droid drive which you can load up any O/S from your Nexus via usb to any computer. And i also believe that it does not touch the hard drive on the pc.
So far using wifite it can crack any wep key in under 10 min WPA key in about 2 hrs. Max was about 2000 keys/sec and on average 1100 keys/sec. Using a randomly selected word from the Rockyou.txt file it took over 2.5 million keys to find it... but it was successful. You can download tools like cupp.py or crunch to customize lists to your liking. Also i havent tried it yet but reaver for wps takes roughly 4-10 hours. Any tools that use a GUI cannot be displayed properly without configuring the files your self. For say the tool driftnet it will not display the images gathered... rather you will have to save them into a file and view them separately from that file.
As far as security nmap cannot discover any open ports from a fresh install of nethunter on my home network. But Nethunter can discover many open ports on my old DV6. If uou want to stay anonymous you can use tor app.
In all if you really want a fun, powerful, mobile pentesting device this is it.
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What WiFi dongle are you using... I've been lurking around the Kali website for a couple years. Tried nethunter when it first dropped for the nexus 6. Looking to learn it a little better and give it a try. Maybe we can pm?
stebomurkn420 said:
What WiFi dongle are you using... I've been lurking around the Kali website for a couple years. Tried nethunter when it first dropped for the nexus 6. Looking to learn it a little better and give it a try. Maybe we can pm?
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hey you can pm me at [email protected] its easier. Sorry i havent been on here in a while just got my self a raspberry pi 2 and was playing arround with that for a bit. Its all the same stuff as kali but with a few less hardware capabilities like i have listed. It is pretty powerful tho considering the physical size of the device. Many generic wifi dongles do work just check the chipset on google and make sure it is one that is listed on the kali website.. usualy atheros brodcomm ralink and some others generaly work well. or you can juat plug it right in at the store and do a quick airmon-ng start wlan1 to see if it works. The linksys im using is older and only supports g speeds. so its good for just acouple things.. nothing speedy. Its a good close range mission dongle. I herd athros ones have good rep tho for range and preformance. here is my dongle info if your wondering.
[email protected]:~# lsusb
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 05c6:90a4 Qualcomm, Inc.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 13b1:0020 Linksys WUSB54GC v1 802.11g Adapter [Ralink RT73]
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[email protected]:~# airmon-ng
PHY Interface Driver Chipset
phy0 wlan0 ?????? non-mac80211 device? (report this!)
phy3 wlan1 rt73usb Linksys WUSB54GC v1 802.11g Adapter [Ralink RT73]
[email protected]:~#
Internal Wifi Card Support on Nexus 6p?
So I'm very new to pentesting and am trying to learn so please bear with me. I was actually doing some research on putting kali on my nexus 6p (to avoid carrying around a netbook) hopefully on a partition (which I'm not entirely sure how to do, but will perservere until I'm told it cant be done) to try to maintain the normal function of my phone on stock android, and boot into kali when needed.
I came across this thread and discovered what NetHunter was. Through my earlier research, I determined that the Nexus 6p's onboard card is a broadcom bcm4358 which supports monitoring and (according to aircrack-ng's compatibility chart) packet injection after a driver patch.
My question then is this: would it be possible to use this device with either kali linux or nethunter without an external (and not so stealthy) wifi card?
If I have some missing piece of info or some of what I have is incorrect, please help me find the correct information to continue my reasearch.
i have a fair amount of independent troubleshooting? and through a year and a half of nexus 5 to the 2 nexus 6 i have. i written anything worth of measurable difference between one set of "build" compatibility and also meta building on top of ROMs. one rule of thumb i need to stress is the systemless root that is now commonly standardized in most ROMS will need to be pulled out. also, consistent busybox throughout the system. (new/old shouldnt really coexist). i have found Velcro to a case and the adapter you plan on using helps keep it all organized (needless to say i buy a new case when a buy a new wifi dongle and change the case)
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devin761 said:
So I'm very new to pentesting and am trying to learn so please bear with me. I was actually doing some research on putting kali on my nexus 6p (to avoid carrying around a netbook) hopefully on a partition (which I'm not entirely sure how to do, but will perservere until I'm told it cant be done) to try to maintain the normal function of my phone on stock android, and boot into kali when needed.
I came across this thread and discovered what NetHunter was. Through my earlier research, I determined that the Nexus 6p's onboard card is a broadcom bcm4358 which supports monitoring and (according to aircrack-ng's compatibility chart) packet injection after a driver patch.
My question then is this: would it be possible to use this device with either kali linux or nethunter without an external (and not so stealthy) wifi card?
If I have some missing piece of info or some of what I have is incorrect, please help me find the correct information to continue my reasearch.
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if aircrack has it on a supported list, there will still be an amount of time where the build could exploit it without your own development?
at the moment....yes.an adapter would be required. nexus 5 is internally supported(as far as i have dug up)...a good example of why we need an external adapter(overall) is https://store.pwnieexpress.com/product/pwn-phone2014b/
i have been using the nexus 6 with the tp link 822n with considerable compatibility. it was $20 at Frys. very easy to pick up OTC without hunting something down online
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i also have a built image of kali across a laptop. it has a detrimental amount of exploitation abilities. i would prefer not to explore this too far because each build will require a different customized image and "help" is going to cause confusion unless i had the SAME laptop. my laptop is mainly for defensive environments. and my devices are for setting up or info gathering to prepare for my laptops secure (no detection) measures.
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*hopes this helps*
Hi I also am having trouble getting both the RF to work and an external wifi dongle to run. Where do i how do I compile a new Kernal?
I don't use it frequently but I love having Nethunter on my device. I use an Alfa AWUS036NEH adapter with an otg adapter and it works flawlessly. My phone actually cracks wireless networks faster than my laptop. If you take the time to learn about penetration testing, the possibilities are endless! I used to own a WiFi Pineapple Nano but sold it because I found that I could do everything with Nethunter. The Pineapple has a great GUI and it's great if you want to to do things without actually learning anything. I actually just ordered a book on Metasploit, as I'm really eager to master the framework. I think it's an extremely powerful tool but I don't know too much about it yet.
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Hi I also am having trouble getting both the RF to work and an external wifi dongle to run. Where do i how do I compile a new Kernal?
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goggling the adaptors model and version will turn up with its chip-set. it would be best to form the adapter to the device and not the device to the adaptor......there are plenty of chip-sets supported. going out of ones way to rebuild a kernel: warrants specific needs.
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Fuse8499 said:
I don't use it frequently but I love having Nethunter on my device. I use an Alfa AWUS036NEH adapter with an otg adapter and it works flawlessly. My phone actually cracks wireless networks faster than my laptop. If you take the time to learn about penetration testing, the possibilities are endless! I used to own a WiFi Pineapple Nano but sold it because I found that I could do everything with Nethunter. The Pineapple has a great GUI and it's great if you want to to do things without actually learning anything. I actually just ordered a book on Metasploit, as I'm really eager to master the framework. I think it's an extremely powerful tool but I don't know too much about it yet.
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I learned after one time of asking a fry's employee, that there are specific questions that might not throw up red flags in your mind as to a specific hardware or firmware requirements...but it will be too specific for a "floor guy" to remedy. they will do the right thing by getting a higher-up to assist you with your questions. long story short.....i found the host controller i was looking for and it ran about $250.i believe that so many red flags went up somewhere along the line. that several of the low end host controllers replaced the high end ones(on the shelf)with the specific adaptor i was looking for. i returned a few weeks later with a friend so he could get one (to make sure it was the SAME one i had)...it was gone and no one really wanted to answer the questions for us. i thought to myself, "dont go the hardware store and ask for a duplicate of a bump-key"
I use an Alfa AWUS036NEH adapter with a $6 otg adapter and it works flawlessly. Imo, that's the best adapter to use with Kali!
i have used nethunter allot and i can say it runs ok, if your a pen tester it has allot of tools for you. However battery life is not great and speed is slow. i would say its comparable to stock rom maybe a tad slower.
can do everything i even captured a wpa2 wifi handshake with wifite.
7.1.1 and nethunter
Has anyone had any experience with nethunter on the Nexus 6 running 7.1.1? I like the features of Nougat and don't want to have to give up the security patches or features by going back to 6.0.1 to get full nethunter support. I have heard some people mention having to manually copy/paste ducky payloads because that functionality wasn't working with nethunter on nougat; but wondered if anyone here has had any experience. Thanks to all who reply!
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Has anyone had any experience with nethunter on the Nexus 6 running 7.1.1? I like the features of Nougat and don't want to have to give up the security patches or features by going back to 6.0.1 to get full nethunter support. I have heard some people mention having to manually copy/paste ducky payloads because that functionality wasn't working with nethunter on nougat; but wondered if anyone here has had any experience. Thanks to all who reply!
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Yes, indeedy.
It took me more than a few frustrated attempts, but it's working well now.
Although it has a couple idiosyncrasies, the workarounds are quite straightforward. No need to manually install the payloads, or anything like that.
If you're still interested in giving it a go, I would be happy to list out the steps. :good:
I have an old 6th Gen Kindle Fire HD 8. It's a finicky device - it works fine, but the charging port only works with one particular non-Amazon USB cable. I have no idea why, but I think the port has had issue from the start.
It's kinda on the bottom of my electronics pile, so it really has no use at the moment. Anyway, it's just sitting around and I don't know what to do with it. Can it be rooted to run bare AOSP?
[Cross-post from the general Kindle Fire XDA section]
MrBrady said:
I really appreciate the reply. Thanks for the information.
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I have one of these. Rooted with mtk-su/SuperSu back in the day, early 2019. Customized enough to be almost stock.
It's a fine device - runs kids' games just fine. No difference with Hd8 2017 really, solid battery life.
It all depends on your needs really. The only downside is that apps start dropping lollipop support, so while it's an OK cpu, some things are just no longer compatible.
MrBrady said:
I have an old 6th Gen Kindle Fire HD 8. It's a finicky device - it works fine, but the charging port only works with one particular non-Amazon USB cable. I have no idea why, but I think the port has had issue from the start.
It's kinda on the bottom of my electronics pile, so it really has no use at the moment. Anyway, it's just sitting around and I don't know what to do with it. Can it be rooted to run bare AOSP?
[Cross-post from the general Kindle Fire XDA section]
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There is no root or ROMs for your device.
You must have to use a transferrable micro USB cable to use ADB debugging.
Things to do your Fire tablet as
-> Digital Clock
-> Android app debugger (If your PC doesn't have a virtualization technology to run Android virtual device in Android Studio)
-> Android Auto head unit
-> Smart display
-> MIDI controller (If you don't have a money to buy a MIDI controller. Use your old Fire tablet as a MIDI keyboard in digital audio workstation or stand-alone virtual instruments)
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There is no root or ROMs for your device.
You must have to use a transferrable micro USB cable to use ADB debugging.
Things to do your Fire tablet as
-> Digital Clock
-> Android app debugger (If your PC doesn't have a virtualization technology to run Android virtual device in Android Studio)
-> Android Auto head unit
-> Smart display
-> MIDI controller (If you don't have a money to buy a MIDI controller. Use your old Fire tablet as a MIDI keyboard in digital audio workstation or stand-alone virtual instruments)
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I really appreciate the reply. Thanks for the information.
If you can get a working data cable, you can follow the instructions on this thread to root your fire hd 8 6th gen...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/tut-how-to-root-fire-hd-7-8-10-6th-t3946480
or
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd...xperimental-software-root-hd-8-hd-10-t3904595