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What does 4g idle status mean ??

Sorry for shouting, but I'm getting no answers.
Does everyone here also get an idle 4G icon after a short amount of time ?
What does it mean ?
I was under the impression that it's a phone design to conserve battery life, as explained here
http://www.deepeshpradhan.com/nexus-s4g-is-just-better-and-faster-and-its-is-google-phone
But, when mine does idle, it doesn't fall back to 3G, it just remains off, effectively turning this into a dumb unit. No connection.Nothing.
I'm looking for people to prove me wrong and to tell me that when they are idle on 4G, they receive notification INSTANTLY on apps like google talk.
I'm not talking 3 minutes delayed until 4G kicks back in again, I'm talking instant messaging , as it should be.
If I'm proved wrong, I must have a defective unit, but if this is software related, then somethings amiss ????

I have not noticed this myself... but I have seen at least one other thread saying the same thing.
I'd rather take the battery drain.

grifforama said:
Sorry for shouting, but I'm getting no answers.
Does everyone here also get an idle 4G icon after a short amount of time ?
What does it mean ?
I was under the impression that it's a phone design to conserve battery life, as explained here
http://www.deepeshpradhan.com/nexus-s4g-is-just-better-and-faster-and-its-is-google-phone
But, when mine does idle, it doesn't fall back to 3G, it just remains off, effectively turning this into a dumb unit. No connection.Nothing.
I'm looking for people to prove me wrong and to tell me that when they are idle on 4G, they receive notification INSTANTLY on apps like google talk.
I'm not talking 3 minutes delayed until 4G kicks back in again, I'm talking instant messaging , as it should be.
If I'm proved wrong, I must have a defective unit, but if this is software related, then somethings amiss ????
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We have discussed this and when I told you that I get notifications even when 4g is idle you disagreed. Why start a new thread?

mikeyinid said:
We have discussed this and when I told you that I get notifications even when 4g is idle you disagreed. Why start a new thread?
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Because I don't believe you. I believe you must be getting a connection forced when you're having something polled. Or you get them when the icon goes back to green with bars. Not when it's grey with 3 dots. You cannot be. I've checked *#*#4636#*#* when it's idle, and there is simply NO connection.
Chec this for my evidence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szE_qs5zNyg
If you have proof otherwise, then please share.
And also because there are multiple threads on many topics. I'm hoping that I catch someone's attention.
I have tested this many many times, and it simply does not work.
I'm sorry dude, but you cannot be getting anything when it's idle.

mikeyinid said:
We have discussed this and when I told you that I get notifications even when 4g is idle you disagreed. Why start a new thread?
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And I see you asked everyone on your twitter feed. Anyone respond ?

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And I see you asked everyone on your twitter feed. Anyone respond ?
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Yes, the responses are mixed. Ive been testing this for days and no matter what I always get notifications.
Im not arguing that your wrong, my argument is that I do get notifications when 4g is idle.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142880
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1139471
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132628
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132439
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136379
all in less then 7 days tho dude?
here is a video i just made showing my phone coming out of idle while 4g is on. the reason for the time difference is im in chicago and im guessing grifforama is on the east coast
4g idle test
from that article in the op:
When you call upon it to deliver super-speedy 4G internet, it kicks back on in a matter of seconds.
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well i know how i read that statement but thats not how mine works as seen in my video

hellcatt said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142880
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1139471
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132628
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132439
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136379
all in less then 7 days tho dude?
here is a video i just made showing my phone coming out of idle while 4g is on. the reason for the time difference is im in chicago and im guessing grifforama is on the east coast
4g idle test
from that article in the op:
well i know how i read that statement but thats not how mine works as seen in my video
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Appreciate the video, but I think you may have more stuff polling than just gmail. If you revert totally to stock, I promise you will find that idle does not come off for push notifications. I see you have a lot of stiff loaded on your phone. It could be that.
I'm returning my phone tomorrow and getting it replaced. I'll try again.

hellcatt said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1142880
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1139471
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132628
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1132439
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1136379
all in less then 7 days tho dude?
here is a video i just made showing my phone coming out of idle while 4g is on. the reason for the time difference is im in chicago and im guessing grifforama is on the east coast
4g idle test
from that article in the op:
well i know how i read that statement but thats not how mine works as seen in my video
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Ok, do you think I may have a defective handset ? Could it be hardware related ?
I have literally just sent myself another email (at 08:22am) and my phone is sitting idle on my table at 08:29 with no email notification...
It's driving me mad. I literally cannot work like this (I rely on gtalk and gmail for my business)
If this is handset related, I can live with it if it fixes itself when I swap it out. If it's software related, I guess I'm screwed.
I just think that you guys have something that's polling regularly ??

Yet another example.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnQdOaP0sEg

Why don't you leave it on 3g? I can tell you that from my experience with the EVO, I could never leave 4G on because it'd knock down batterylife to about 6-8 hours.
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Award Tour said:
Why don't you leave it on 3g? I can tell you that from my experience with the EVO, I could never leave 4G on because it'd knock down batterylife to about 6-8 hours.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using Tapatalk
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thats because the evo leaves the connection on. this is the whole point of "idle", so everybody doesnt complain of battery on 4g. now we are faced with a different problem. the video is hard to argue with. lets bug sammy to come up with a solution. until then, those who are affected by this just go back to 3g?

rican408 said:
thats because the evo leaves the connection on. this is the whole point of "idle", so everybody doesnt complain of battery on 4g. now we are faced with a different problem. the video is hard to argue with. lets bug sammy to come up with a solution. until then, those who are affected by this just go back to 3g?
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Happy to leave it on 3G for now. Not happy to be paying $10 a month for premium data.

grifforama said:
Happy to leave it on 3G for now. Not happy to be paying $10 a month for premium data.
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i believe it has been confirmed that 10 bucks isnt for 4g, rather "cool phone tax"
best way to prove it would be to find out if any non 4g phones are paying the fee. again this is what i heard and i could be wrong.

grifforama said:
Appreciate the video, but I think you may have more stuff polling than just gmail. If you revert totally to stock, I promise you will find that idle does not come off for push notifications. I see you have a lot of stiff loaded on your phone. It could be that.
I'm returning my phone tomorrow and getting it replaced. I'll try again.
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just try another phone then. as far as i can tell i dont have anything else polling, the weather channel widget is the only active item i have.
im clearly not having the same issue as you and of the 5 people responding in this thread only one is having a problem. with 5 threads in 6 days i can tell you 2 things.
1. no one is going to be able to solve your problem if no one else is having iit or can replicate t.
2. no one is going to bother cuz of "oh its that guy again with his same problem" factor.
stop wasting time and go get a replacement before its to late.
try running the widget i got and see if it helps at all. if thats the reason i dont have the problem then i say the fix has been found.
again i refer you to the article you posted
When you call upon it to deliver super-speedy 4G internet, it kicks back on in a matter of seconds.
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read it out loud and makes sure youre clear on how it says its supposed to work

rican408 said:
i believe it has been confirmed that 10 bucks isnt for 4g, rather "cool phone tax"
best way to prove it would be to find out if any non 4g phones are paying the fee. again this is what i heard and i could be wrong.
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yea its on any smart phones 4g or not.

hellcatt said:
just try another phone then. as far as i can tell i dont have anything else polling, the weather channel widget is the only active item i have.
im clearly not having the same issue as you and of the 5 people responding in this thread only one is having a problem. with 5 threads in 6 days i can tell you 2 things.
1. no one is going to be able to solve your problem if no one else is having it.
2. no one is going to bother cuz of "oh its that guy again with his same problem" factor.
stop wasting time and go get a replacement before its to late.
try running the widget i got and see if it helps at all. if thats the reason i dont have the problem then i say the fix has been found.
again i refer you to the article you posted
read it out loud and makes sure youre clear on how it says its supposed to work
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Dude, stop being a dufus.
It's supposed to kick back in in a matter of seconds.
It isn't, clearly as my video shows.
You have a weather widget which probably polls, plus god knows how many other widgets and apps pulling in stuff every few seconds.
I have stock, with no apps apart from a clock on the home screen.
I will be swapp[ing the phone out tomorrow. I will then do the same tests with stock software out of the box,and see what happens when it idles.
I will come back here and let you know what happens. I will humbly apologise for wasting time if it's seen to be a hardware thing, but for now I will hold judgment.
No need to get snarky.

griff under accounts and sync................do you have background data on?
i know it seems a stupid question but maybe an over sight
not gettin ****in snarky dude tryin to help, but what ever i could care less if you even a have a phone. it says
When YOUcall upon it to deliver super-speedy 4G internet, it kicks back on in a matter of seconds.
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IT IS KICKING BACK ON IN A MATTER OF SECONDS AS MINE CLEARLY SHOWS
TRY DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT ALREADY AND GOOD LUCK
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE

hellcatt said:
griff under accounts and sync................do you have background data on?
i know it seems a stupid question but maybe an over sight
not gettin ****in snarky dude tryin to help, but what ever i could care less if you even a have a phone. it says
IT IS KICKING BACK ON IN A MATTER OF SECONDS AS MINE CLEARLY SHOWS
TRY DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT ALREADY AND GOOD LUCK
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE
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Of course I do.
As you saw in my video. I switch to 3G and mails get sent.
I will update when I get a new phone.

By new phone you mean EVO 3D?
grifforama said:
Of course I do.
As you saw in my video. I switch to 3G and mails get sent.
I will update when I get a new phone.
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So excited!!! Evo Design 4G on Sunday!!!

So, I'll be picking up my Evo Design 4G bright and early Sunday morning I'll let you know how it goes and what I think after I've had it for a couple hours.
I've been waiting a while for a smaller version of the Evo to hit sprint... and now the wait is OVER

Just read about this on Engadget,looks like its going to be a pretty good phone. Might even pick one up off contact.
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...e-october-23rd-f/&category=classic&postPage=1
Sent From my Verizon powered Evo 4G!

so this thing doesn't have a dual-core processor right?

No, it's still single core, but I'm not THAT hardcore on my phone anyway.. with what I do with my phones, once I find the right rom and kernel combo I'm smooth sailing. I've got two upgrades in the waiting so I'm going to use one on this phone. I just want it for the smaller frame. Personally I think 4.0" is perfect. These new 4.5, and 4.7" screens coming out, might as well have a damn tablet pressed to your face

The global roaming capabilities seems interesting as well. I wonder how well that will work in gsm areas around me.
Sent from my PC36100 using xda premium

Why not just get a 3D?
Whooo! (Cole Voice...)

A little more ram and a extra 200mhz on the CPU PLUS a smaller screen. Whats the point in buying it?
Seems like a waste of time and money.

knowledge561 said:
Why not just get a 3D?
Whooo! (Cole Voice...)
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I want a smaller phone, that's my deal.. I'm sure I'll get the itch for better processing but I'll wait till mid next year and use my other upgrade for an LTE phone when its all up and running.

ItsLasher said:
A little more ram and a extra 200mhz on the CPU PLUS a smaller screen. Whats the point in buying it?
Seems like a waste of time and money.
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I'm just tired of carrying a brick around in my pants for now.. I'll root it, OC it to 1.5, rom, kernel, and it will be just perfect for me

Sathanvs said:
The global roaming capabilities seems interesting as well. I wonder how well that will work in gsm areas around me.
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I suspect that it will be as Sprint handled the GSM roaming on the TP2... i.e. it will not work on GSM in the US. The TP2 was SIM locked to only allow the GSM to work outside of the US.

_Cooze_ said:
No, it's still single core, but I'm not THAT hardcore on my phone anyway.. with what I do with my phones, once I find the right rom and kernel combo I'm smooth sailing. I've got two upgrades in the waiting so I'm going to use one on this phone. I just want it for the smaller frame. Personally I think 4.0" is perfect. These new 4.5, and 4.7" screens coming out, might as well have a damn tablet pressed to your face
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Very good point! 4 inch is great. 4.3 is big enough.

Sathanvs said:
The global roaming capabilities seems interesting as well. I wonder how well that will work in gsm areas around me.
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Yea, man. If I did a lot of international travel I could see myself buying this phone.

I was reaaaally digging this phone when I first read about it and looked at the video on it by wirefly.
Im still luggin my tp2 around, but its just about had it, it freezes after every text, sometimes it even restarts
And thats bad since I get like.... upwards of 300 texts a day
in anycase.
When I compared the tp2 and the design side by side.. the screens width is almost exactly the same.
its just taller.
When compared side by side with the 3d.. it lags a bit when doing the caruswheel and unlocking.
But aside from all that it looked amazing.
the screen is very pretty and I love the design of it.. smooth and hints of curves.
The main thing killing it for the 3d is the design of it. Its suck a brick.. sharp edges.. and that cam buttun just jumps out into everyones buisness lol
That being said.. Im rally torn between the 2.
When Im in austin tomorrow Im going to have to check it out again cause the one here in ft hood was a little glitch. it doesnt even auto rotate or light up the notifications led.
OH and day one while I was playing with it, (since it didnt rotate) I checked for updates and It already has a softwear update LMAO

Why not get the Nexus S 4g? Its 4" and a great phone.

ECrispy said:
Why not get the Nexus S 4g? Its 4" and a great phone.
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My gf has that phone.. she has alot of issues with it.
That and the release version has a bug where you cant send any text over the 160 charicter limit
3rd party apps dont help because even tho it lets her pass the charicter limit and 'chain' the messages like everyother phone does.. her phone will only send a "@" symble instead of the message everytime she passes the 160 limit of the phone.
And I text alot and send texts up to 400 charicters all the time.
So that wouldnt work for me
And as far as I can tell there wont be an official update for some time
I was thinking about getting the galexsy s ii epic 4g touch.. but dont really like the interface or the size. Its a tad too big in my opinion

aedon said:
OH and day one while I was playing with it, (since it didnt rotate) I checked for updates and It already has a softwear update LMAO
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That is the security update for that leak they found last month.. they all got it..

aedon said:
My gf has that phone.. she has alot of issues with it.
That and the release version has a bug where you cant send any text over the 160 charicter limit
3rd party apps dont help because even tho it lets her pass the charicter limit and 'chain' the messages like everyother phone does.. her phone will only send a "@" symble instead of the message everytime she passes the 160 limit of the phone.
And I text alot and send texts up to 400 charicters all the time.
So that wouldnt work for me
And as far as I can tell there wont be an official update for some time
I was thinking about getting the galexsy s ii epic 4g touch.. but dont really like the interface or the size. Its a tad too big in my opinion
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No update any time soon? ICS will likely hit the NS4G not too soon after the Galaxy Nexus is released. Probably early to mid December. The SMS issue is easily solved by integrating with Google Voice. SMSing is about million times better with GV than with anything else you'd try. Back up, online management, and now MMS support.
If you look hard enough a new/new-ish NS4G can be had for $200 on ebay. Not bad for a soon to be ICS, WiMax, and Google Wallet capable phone. I'm upgrading to the Galaxy Nexus if it comes to Sprint but I wouldn't have a single problem holding on to it for another couple of months if it doesn't.

_Cooze_ said:
I'm just tired of carrying a brick around in my pants for now.. I'll root it, OC it to 1.5, rom, kernel, and it will be just perfect for me
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My ex used to have another name for that "brick in my pants."
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MicrosoftBug said:
My ex used to have another name for that "brick in my pants."
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Since she's an ex, I'm guessinggggg........................ small rock?

_Cooze_ said:
Since she's an ex, I'm guessinggggg........................ small rock?
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lmao
anyway, the guys at the sprint store are saying the galexy nexus is set to his around november 15thish
As far as the nexus s 4g, I can get it for like 50 bucks from sprint cause of my sero upgrade price.
but her phones already running 2.3.7 and she has the texting issue, her phone freezes and restarts all the time, and she looses data randomly.
and its not just hers, her sister has the same phone with the same problems
I decided against the evo design. 100% no after looking at it at another storeyesturday, it only plays the left channel of any audio, I loaded multiple music videos on youtube of songs I normally listen to and I was only getting have the sounds out of the phones speaker.

Samsung galaxy light (cheap lte on tmobile USA)

I have not seen much about this phone. It's a cheap ( no exact price yet) small sized phone to test out tmobile's lte if you want to think about switching away from big V like me.
http://m.androidcentral.com/t-mobile-announces-samsung-galaxy-light
1.4ghz Quad core with 1GB system memory and 8GB internal storage. It also has an 1800 mah battery and microsd.

LBJM said:
I have not seen much about this phone. It's a cheap ( no exact price yet) small sized phone to test out tmobile's lte if you want to think about switching away from big V like me.
http://m.androidcentral.com/t-mobile-announces-samsung-galaxy-light
1.4ghz Quad core with 1GB system memory and 8GB internal storage. It also has an 1800 mah battery and microsd.
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Currently listed on hsn.com for 199.95. Noticed via prepaidphonenews.com. Looking forward to hear from someone about unlocked bootloader status and partition arrangement.

aaopt said:
Currently listed on hsn.com for 199.95. Noticed via prepaidphonenews.com. Looking forward to hear from someone about unlocked bootloader status and partition arrangement.
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Just noticed, among the features listed on hsn.com is something called "secure boot." Why does that sound like something I don't want? And they mention it as if it's a good thing.

aaopt said:
Currently listed on hsn.com for 199.95. Noticed via prepaidphonenews.com. Looking forward to hear from someone about unlocked bootloader status and partition arrangement.
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Now $149. I'd grab it if I could root it. Zero development on this device and this is the only thread even discussing it. Shame but not surprising. You're almost better off to get an old phone that has plenty of options than a new one with none.

Sounds very interesting. I hope it will be released in Europe soon too.
I've read that that it reaches an antutu score around ~17000+. First an only 4'' phone with a quad core at the moment.!
But, does anybody know if it has a light sensor to adjust the brightness automatically?

Lol some guy wanted to trade me the Light for my One S...
Seeing that its pretty...new and no dev'ment yet, its a no.
Thats the same exact reason I got rid of my ol Boost Mobile LG Venice.
Besides, I'm not a fan of mediocre carrier service.
It sounds appealing though, i mean 1gb ram tied in with quad core, clocked at 1.4GHz not bad.
But its using TFT screen technology sized at 4 inches, a 5mp cam and a 0.3mp front. What sort of odd combo is that?
At least they should have given it an AMOLED then maybe the miniature screen would make some sense.
If you ask me, its like a merged Galaxy Prevail and a Galaxy S. Good for those who want something cheap yet preformance
worthy (I guess) but for a quad core device, ratings for it on many review sites are depressingly low. Hey at least it
has NFC, but still all that preformance on a TFT screen will make playing games feel like your on an older device.
I think the screen alone was a let down for me.
It does not make my list, nor capture my attention. My guess is, NAY.

I just got this phone. Any clue how to root it? I don't want to brick it following the s4 method.

Does anyone know how to network unlock this phone?
I just got this phone before leaving on vacations and can't seem to find a way to network unlock it so that I can use it outside the U.S.
I have tried all popular unlocking methods for S3's and S4's but none seems to work.

There is another thread about rooting this phone, but noone has figured out how to do it, just yet. I guess the new kernel is causing some issues. Anyway, the other thread is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2539232 I will be picking this phone up as soon as I am able. The small size and the quad core and the speed is also what I have read. As I am not a gamer, the screen is fine. LTE and NFC are features I would use. It's like Samsung figured out that if a user isn't gaming, a big high-end screen isn't as important as speed of connectivity. The gamers have the S4. The rest of us get the Light.

Crossvxm said:
Lol some guy wanted to trade me the Light for my One S...
Seeing that its pretty...new and no dev'ment yet, its a no.
Thats the same exact reason I got rid of my ol Boost Mobile LG Venice.
Besides, I'm not a fan of mediocre carrier service.
It sounds appealing though, i mean 1gb ram tied in with quad core, clocked at 1.4GHz not bad.
But its using TFT screen technology sized at 4 inches, a 5mp cam and a 0.3mp front. What sort of odd combo is that?
At least they should have given it an AMOLED then maybe the miniature screen would make some sense.
If you ask me, its like a merged Galaxy Prevail and a Galaxy S. Good for those who want something cheap yet preformance
worthy (I guess) but for a quad core device, ratings for it on many review sites are depressingly low. Hey at least it
has NFC, but still all that preformance on a TFT screen will make playing games feel like your on an older device.
I think the screen alone was a let down for me.
It does not make my list, nor capture my attention. My guess is, NAY.
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Just curious on what makes you think its like a prevail?

shabbypenguin said:
Just curious on what makes you think its like a prevail?
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thanks shabby for rooting this phone!

I like this phone but I wish we had a ROM for it..

EazyBreezy said:
I like this phone but I wish we had a ROM for it..
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Sounds like there will be one, soon. Patience.
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EazyBreezy said:
I like this phone but I wish we had a ROM for it..
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Proud2banoob said:
Sounds like there will be one, soon. Patience.
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There is one. Stock, but debloated and optimized. I have not tried it myself yet, as I don't have a 2nd phone in case things go awry, But it looks very promising.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/rom-lightwave-v1-t2825253
He also said he's going to attempt a Cyanogenmod 11 port. And if you excuse the archaic vernacular, that would be the bees' knees.
FYI, you can get the Galaxy Light brand new from T-Mobile for $100 right now.

Planterz said:
There is one. Stock, but debloated and optimized. I have not tried it myself yet, as I don't have a 2nd phone in case things go awry, But it looks very promising.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/rom-lightwave-v1-t2825253
He also said he's going to attempt a Cyanogenmod 11 port. And if you excuse the archaic vernacular, that would be the bees' knees.
FYI, you can get the Galaxy Light brand new from T-Mobile for $100 right now.
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Mine is rooted stock and I agree, Lightwave looks nice. The price at t-mobile just came down and I suspect Samsung will be ending the Light and releasing something of lower quality. You can't beat 4 bucks a month. Snap it up while you can.
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Planterz said:
There is one. Stock, but debloated and optimized. I have not tried it myself yet, as I don't have a 2nd phone in case things go awry, But it looks very promising.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/rom-lightwave-v1-t2825253
He also said he's going to attempt a Cyanogenmod 11 port. And if you excuse the archaic vernacular, that would be the bees' knees.
FYI, you can get the Galaxy Light brand new from T-Mobile for $100 right now.
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So I was going to try the LightWave ROM but I have some concerns... Is this going to lock my SIM out, and keep me from accessing my network? Because,I also do not have a second phone to goof off with this one, and if I brick (or worse, get locked out of the data network)I'm screwed. So does anyone know if this locks out T-Mobile's network? Thanks in advance!
On an irrelevant side note, if anyone is using a stock (w/root) ROM and are tired of TouchWiz, I actually figured out how to dump it! There is an app in the Google Play store called "System app remover (ROOT)" and all i did was looked for touchwiz in the app and deleted it. Sorry for rambling.

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So I was going to try the LightWave ROM but I have some concerns... Is this going to lock my SIM out, and keep me from accessing my network? Because,I also do not have a second phone to goof off with this one, and if I brick (or worse, get locked out of the data network)I'm screwed. So does anyone know if this locks out T-Mobile's network? Thanks in advance!
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I can't guarantee you won't brick your phone. Nobody can guarantee anything when you start flashing things. Once you have TWRP though, it's really hard to screw things up irreparably.
On an irrelevant side note, if anyone is using a stock (w/root) ROM and are tired of TouchWiz, I actually figured out how to dump it! There is an app in the Google Play store called "System app remover (ROOT)" and all i did was looked for touchwiz in the app and deleted it. Sorry for rambling.
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That's dangerous. I wouldn't recommend doing that, but if you must, always do backups first.

I have the PRIV Now! Ask me Anything!

Hey guys i just got the PRIV, so if you have anything to ask or share, i'll try and help.

How much did you pay for it? And in which country are you? Considering getting the Priv, but my country (South Africa) has a tendency to bump the price of electronic devices by about 40%.

system apps
you mind sharing the /system/app and /system/priv-app folder with me

sharing with you?! see how much you care about XDA community....
joewyg said:
you mind sharing the /system/app and /system/priv-app folder with me
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can you try some game and see hows the gaming performance?

TowersVault said:
How much did you pay for it? And in which country are you? Considering getting the Priv, but my country (South Africa) has a tendency to bump the price of electronic devices by about 40%.
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I got it in the UAE for review, It costs around 800 dollars in the market.

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can you try some game and see hows the gaming performance?
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Yes sure. anything specific?

How does it work with non-English keyboard layouts (Finnish for example)? I am interested in hearing if there is a sensible way to type äö etc. letters while the slider is out.

varun.gid said:
Yes sure. anything specific?
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puzzle and dragon, japanese version would be better

emprize said:
puzzle and dragon, japanese version would be better
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Works well both of them. No lag as such. gets a bit warm but not too uncomfortable.

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Works well both of them. No lag as such. gets a bit warm but not too uncomfortable.
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thx!

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Hey guys i just got the PRIV, so if you have anything to ask or share, i'll try and help.
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Hey bro I got the priv on 7th November for $ 850 in UAE so far using for 3 day now and im impressed, the only negative is the back feels a bit flimsy. What about yours?
I had a note 5 before this and note 4,3,and htc m8 etc. so never used stock . I had freezing issues on my fone so never really liked the note 5 and glad i switched.
I dont like the photos and music app can you recommend me any relaible and user friendly alternatives.
Plus does your fone also get extra warm during normal use.
And i read somewhere it has wireless charging but mine doesnt work on the samsung's wireless dock.

Syd91 said:
Hey bro I got the priv on 7th November for $ 850 in UAE so far using for 3 day now and im impressed, the only negative is the back feels a bit flimsy. What about yours?
I had a note 5 before this and note 4,3,and htc m8 etc. so never used stock . I had freezing issues on my fone so never really liked the note 5 and glad i switched.
I dont like the photos and music app can you recommend me any relaible and user friendly alternatives.
Plus does your fone also get extra warm during normal use.
And i read somewhere it has wireless charging but mine doesnt work on the samsung's wireless dock.
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I think the back is little wonky because of the keyboard, but nothing big really. Ever so slight.
Play music is the best i always use that. For Gallery try QuickPic or Picktures. They are pretty neat.
Yes Phone does get warm abot with normal use, but cools off quickly. Hopefully they fix it with new updates.
I tried using a couple of wireless chargers, but no go!

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I think the back is little wonky because of the keyboard, but nothing big really. Ever so slight.
Play music is the best i always use that. For Gallery try QuickPic or Picktures. They are pretty neat.
Yes Phone does get warm abot with normal use, but cools off quickly. Hopefully they fix it with new updates.
I tried using a couple of wireless chargers, but no go!
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From what I read somewhere, wireless charging is only available in the model they sell in the US blackberry store. Not sure why. Also someone mentioned that the back is more flimsy on the models that do not have wireless charging, probably because the extra room needed for wireless charging part.
EDIT: Some clarification on wireless charging, apparently only available on models purchased from the Blackberry store both in US and Canada. Carrier models do not have the feature.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2015/11/09/c...out-wireless-charging-on-the-blackberry-priv/

can you tell me how to buy the phone in egypt please ?

I got a Priv as well on Nov. 6th. First one to walk into Rogers and pick one up before they disappeared.
The back does feel a tad flimsy on the Canadian model (without wireless charging) but nothing deal breaking; would have been nice if they put something in there to prevent any depressing of the back of the device. I am putting a hard case on mine though so I won't even notice it.
Device is comfortable, the software is well integrated, gaming performance is excellent. As others mentioned, it does get a bit warm on processor intensive tasks but nothing uncomfortable.
I think BB should have partnered with Samsung and used an Exynos CPU instead of the Snapdragon 808 -- the Exynos 7420 is way better than the Snapdragon 808.

what specific model number did you get?

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what specific model number did you get?
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Well mine is the Canadian carrier model, STV100-3.
I believe the ones sold by Shop Blackberry and carried by American carriers are STV100-1, which do have Qi charging.

Could one of you check if the physical keyboard layout dialog is in its usual place at "Settings => Language & input => Physical keyboard => first entry"?
If so, could you pull the contents of /system/usr/keylayout and /system/usr/keychars (should be quite small)? I'd like to have a look at their physical keyboard layout files, for creating a Finnish layout.

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Well mine is the Canadian carrier model, STV100-3.
I believe the ones sold by Shop Blackberry and carried by American carriers are STV100-1, which do have Qi charging.
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dammit. the australian version will be the STV100-3 as well. I wanted that wireless charging

Can you talk and surf?

I am wondering if talk and surf is back in S7. I could not believe they dropped in in S6. Thank you.

If you mean advanced calling yes it does have it.

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If you mean advanced calling yes it does have it.
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Thank you for replying. I remember reading people were having a lot of problems with S6 with advanced calling with calls dropping and other things. How is it on S7? Thank you.

No problem, I love it. It really is a nice phone. I came from a z3v and waited over a year for Verizon to give us advanced calling. This phone is is a little worse on battery but with actual quick charge, fills up faster than I could have imagined. I had advanced calling through a leaked version of lollipop on z3v and never dropped a call. That is just my experience though.

JediDru said:
No problem, I love it. It really is a nice phone. I came from a z3v and waited over a year for Verizon to give us advanced calling. This phone is is a little worse on battery but with actual quick charge, fills up faster than I could have imagined. I had advanced calling through a leaked version of lollipop on z3v and never dropped a call. That is just my experience though.
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I can't remember the last time I dropped a call with Verizon period. Love it or hate it, they have great service.

Works here
mefistofel666 said:
I am wondering if talk and surf is back in S7. I could not believe they dropped in in S6. Thank you.
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I can Talk and Surf on Data.... S6 edge Verizon
David

But advanced calling costs extra from Verizon, right?

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But advanced calling costs extra from Verizon, right?
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No extra cost associated with it.

I'll definitely check that out. Thanks Jayno20!

Whenever I've tried advanced calling it sounds bad, but that's me personally. I've tried on the Z3v, V10 and this S7. Maybe I'll try it more but from my few experiences I'm not happy with the quality.

That's the first I've ever heard that. Everyone that hears it has nothing but good things to say.

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That's the first I've ever heard that. Everyone that hears it has nothing but good things to say.
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Typically for me, when I had it on I rarely got anyone else with HD calling enabled on their phone. The only person I really try it with is my girlfriend, but maybe she's just awful at using her phone. The experiences I had were it sounded clear, but it would randomly get really quiet for no reason at all. Like I said, I'll try it out again and see how it goes with other people. I noticed with Hangouts calling it sounded crisp, like I was in the same room with the person but at the same time if my data connection were to fluctuate or change, it gave a weird electrical tone. Like, their voice would drop into a strange static, which I've experienced with HD calling.

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I can Talk and Surf on Data.... S6 edge Verizon
David
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As can I, S7 on VZW..

It is not enabled when I Talk and Surf on data...

I would recommend tethering the phone to your person so if you fall off the board it will be fine. It is water resistant so you should be fine.