The has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
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First impressions of my 4 XL is the screen is yellow and warm face on, cloudy white, not impressed with the screen so I'm contacting Google today, the text on my 2 XL is clearer, the last thing I expected with the 4s was dodgy screens.
The color on mine was fine. I wonder if there are manufacturing defects with the 4XL that were present when the 2XL came out.
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The color on mine was fine. I wonder if there are manufacturing defects with the 4XL that were present when the 2XL came out.
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It's looking like that, mines warm, I prefer the cool look and seeing as Google doesn't put anything in their software to adjust coolness or warmness I'm not liking it, is yours pure white face on? Does it go any whiter when tilted backwards about 30 degrees?
Got a replacement coming 25-28th now, I'll see how that is.
Mine is very nice, it's crisp and vibrant. Surprisingly it looks better than my Note 10 plus.
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Mine is very nice, it's crisp and vibrant. Surprisingly it looks better than my Note 10 plus.
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You got a good one then nice, i had this problem with the 2 xl and almost gave up until i received this one i have in my hand, hard to compare with photos online because cameras are poor at white balance anyway when taking shots of other phones but in hand it's worse than my 2 xl which is surprising, my guess is Samsung is cherry picking displays for themselves first,
Just curious, but what color did y'all that are having problems, receive? Shouldn't make a difference,but that's the only reason I could see reviewers not mentioning it, as most of them got the orange one. Maybe it's coincidence, maybe not. But I thought I would out that out there
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You got a good one then nice, i had this problem with the 2 xl and almost gave up until i received this one i have in my hand, hard to compare with photos online because cameras are poor at white balance anyway when taking shots of other phones but in hand it's worse than my 2 xl which is surprising, my guess is Samsung is cherry picking displays for themselves first,
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I really hope you get a better replacement because I'm real happy with mine. I was finally able to test it in direct bright sunlight and it was fine there too. Yes Samsung is brighter but I didn't have a problem reading the screen like the 2XL's and 3xl's I had. The 2xl was the worst out of the two but the 3xl was worse in direct sunlight for me. I wish you the best on your replacement and it sucks you have to go through that.
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I really hope you get a better replacement because I'm real happy with mine. I was finally able to test it in direct bright sunlight and it was fine there too. Yes Samsung is brighter but I didn't have a problem reading the screen like the 2XL's and 3xl's I had. The 2xl was the worst out of the two but the 3xl was worse in direct sunlight for me. I wish you the best on your replacement and it sucks you have to go through that.
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Glad your happy with it, this yellow is not something i can live with unless the manufacturer puts in settings and configuration to suit everyone, when i look at my tv then look at the phone I'm about to ship back I'm disappointed, I've noticed this white looks slightly better in bright light but in a duller environment the yellow shows it's rear ugly head, will see what happens in a few days when i get the replacement if that's the same must be how they've calibrated the screen this time, enjoy yours ?
Any oled can be varying temp etc
I just want to be rid of the black smearing in low brightness on my Pixel 2 XL. Should be arriving tomorrow!
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Just curious, but what color did y'all that are having problems, receive? Shouldn't make a difference,but that's the only reason I could see reviewers not mentioning it, as most of them got the orange one. Maybe it's coincidence, maybe not. But I thought I would out that out there
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Yeah mine is black which is warm, a replacement has been sent out for tomorrow so I'll see what that's like if that's the same or worse I may change colour just to see.
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This is what I've been reading about oled the last few days, there's just no consistency, considering how long oled has been out now it's shocking to be honest, if I bought a red ferrari and it was delivered light red I'd be pissed, should not be happening in this day an age, to be honest I'm beginning to think QC is just not there with Google, I've had Google phones since the Nexus 5 and never had issues with screens until the pixel 2 XL, no surprise since everything changed to oled, apparently it's a big issue with oled TVs too, read some bits some people have to watch their TV at a 70 degree angle to get pure white, it's just shocking.
Brightness sucks
If i return this phone (Pixel 4 XL) it will be because of the extremely poor brightness on this screen (i probably will return). The Oneplus 7t is better than this phones screen and cost $400 less. That's just pitiful.
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If i return this phone (Pixel 4 XL) it will be because of the extremely poor brightness on this screen (i probably will return). The Oneplus 7t is better than this phones screen and cost $400 less. That's just pitiful.
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What's wrong with the brightness? Washed out when it's too high?
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What's wrong with the brightness? Washed out when it's too high?
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I'd have to keep it on 100% brightness a lot of the time to get it where i want, with the Oneplus 7t and iphones, samsung galaxy - don't have to do that. Its just really low, and I think it's something with the way Google set it up that they could fix with software, but probably won't. Either way not paying $1000 dollars for this.
Absolutely no issues with the display. Will be testing it more extensively outside in the bright Sun.
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Absolutely no issues with the display. Will be testing it more extensively outside in the bright Sun.
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No problems in the bright sun for me either. I tested mine on my morning walk and throughout the day with no issues reading the screen. This was a concern to me because the 3XL was terrible in the bright sun and I ended up returning it because of that. No, the 4XL isn't the brightest but it works fine. I've been testing it out along with a Note 10 + since yesterday and the Note is going back.
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I'd have to keep it on 100% brightness a lot of the time to get it where i want, with the Oneplus 7t and iphones, samsung galaxy - don't have to do that. Its just really low, and I think it's something with the way Google set it up that they could fix with software, but probably won't. Either way not paying $1000 dollars for this.
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Yeah google ****ed that up in a update to android a while ago, mines 95% used to be around 60 ish, why they ****ed about with that is anyones guess.
But yeah OLED screens are a lottery, you either get lucky or the fact is probably a lot are actually yellow but a lot op peoples brains can't register or see it and they think it is white and they have no issues, See here on this link, more people actually voted there is tint issues than not.
https://www.avforums.com/threads/oled-yellow-red-tint.2119862/
Also Google uses LG oled screens, they are notorious for tinting problems in their oled tv's too, Don't know what the screen is the 4 or 4 XL but mine is ****e, luckily a replacement will be here tomorrow and if there is a big difference it will just go to show how poor either oled screens are or googles quality control is non existent, i read somewhere on a review on the 4xl screens (can't remember where now) and he says every single pixel 4 screen is calibrated at a factory, for a start that's absolute bull****, even expensive tv's are not calibrated individually, it takes way too much time so the fact there is so much variance in oled tells you where the problem is.
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Yeah google ****ed that up in a update to android a while ago, mines 95% used to be around 60 ish, why they ****ed about with that is anyones guess.
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The slider adjustment was to make the increments more linear. Before, 50% on the slider was more than 50% of what a screen's brightness was actually capable off. So the difference between 0-50% was greater than 51-100%.
That being said, the dimmer than iPhone and Samsung's screens has nothing to do with it. The Pixel 4 is rated around 444 nits while iPhone's and Samsung's can hit 800 and 1000+ respectively.
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I have noticed my unit has a slight pink hue. When tilting device vertically I can see it disappears and its only visible when looking straight on the screen.
I am not used to AMOLED displays, last I used was Galaxy S2 is this a common issue or maybe not an issue?
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I saw this too, but it seems to have settled with use
I have a replacement coming tomorrow for slight cosmetic damage on the back so will see if it has that hue or not
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I have a replacement coming tomorrow for slight cosmetic damage on the back so will see if it has that hue or not
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I take back my original reply, pink hue still there
It looks like its the "feature" of this panel. Something I need to get used to.
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Are you sure its not your face, mine looks pinkish dead on and looks normal again at an angle.
Switch to sRGB aswel as the out of the box settings look like a HD Cartoon
I don't think it's a face reflection. I have tried sRGB but its way too washed for my liking.
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My display is warmer/yellower than I expected straight on (not as much from an angle) - I thought they figured this stuff out by now?
When I turn on sRGB mode it makes it less yellow but too washed out and it doesn't seem to stick after reboot. Anyone?
Put it this way, whites on mine definitely do not look pure white like some reviews have said. I hate how screens can differ....
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My display is warmer/yellower than I expected straight on (not as much from an angle) - I thought they figured this stuff out by now?
When I turn on sRGB mode it makes it less yellow but too washed out and it doesn't seem to stick after reboot. Anyone?
Put it this way, whites on mine definitely do not look pure white like some reviews have said. I hate how screens can differ....
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I feel mine is the same. I recently had a HTC one m7 so maybe it is just me being not used to AMOLED displays but mine feels very yellow/warm... I can only see true whites when looking at the screen from an angle!
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I feel mine is the same. I recently had a HTC one m7 so maybe it is just me being not used to AMOLED displays but mine feels very yellow/warm... I can only see true whites when looking at the screen from an angle!
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Yes sounds like mine. I called Google and they said if I want I can have another sent to me (they would put a hold/authorization charge on my account) and then I send the original back when received. Then the hold/charge is dropped. I told them I'd think about it.
Any chance the warmness will change/look more normal over time or no? I'm pretty positive that it is actually more yellow than it is supposed to be compared to "normal" ones, so don't second guess yourself if you think it is. I've had this issue so many times in the past with phones....
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Yes sounds like mine. I called Google and they said if I want I can have another sent to me (they would put a hold/authorization charge on my account) and then I send the original back when received. Then the hold/charge is dropped. I told them I'd think about it.
Any chance the warmness will change/look more normal over time or no? I'm pretty positive that it is actually more yellow than it is supposed to be compared to "normal" ones, so don't second guess yourself if you think it is. I've had this issue so many times in the past with phones....
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Hmm.. It's a bit gutting if something is wrong! I've just managed to set the darn thing up. It does feel awfully yellow... The only way I could know if it wasn't right was to see another one... So maybe I'll have to pop to CPW and see if they have a display one to compare to.. I only have 14 days to do an exchange of needed and I'm already 2 days into that now!
I'd feel stupid if I took this back and nothing was wrong but at the same time I'd feel stupid keeping this handset and finding out that the screen was rubbish!
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Hmm.. It's a bit gutting if something is wrong! I've just managed to set the darn thing up. It does feel awfully yellow... The only way I could know if it wasn't right was to see another one... So maybe I'll have to pop to CPW and see if they have a display one to compare to.. I only have 14 days to do an exchange of needed and I'm already 2 days into that now!
I'd feel stupid if I took this back and nothing was wrong but at the same time I'd feel stupid keeping this handset and finding out that the screen was rubbish!
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I hear ya, yeah we do have 2 weeks but they also said we have a 1 year warranty of some type..not sure what the difference is but she said they would only replace with new ones right now since no refurbs.
Not sure what to do....
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I hear ya, yeah we do have 2 weeks but they also said we have a 1 year warranty of some type..not sure what the difference is but she said they would only replace with new ones right now since no refurbs.
Not sure what to do....
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I've just read online the 5x has had massive issues with yellow screens. Google is replacing them so I'm definitely going to pop into CPW and raise the issue with them. When holding my phone next to my old HTC one m7 its clearly very yellow, which can't be right!
Frustrating as I imagine that CPW won't have a replacement in stock yet...
Just google nexus 5x yellow screen to see what has been happening!
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I've just read online the 5x has had massive issues with yellow screens. Google is replacing them so I'm definitely going to pop into CPW and raise the issue with them. When holding my phone next to my old HTC one m7 its clearly very yellow, which can't be right!
Frustrating as I imagine that CPW won't have a replacement in stock yet...
Just google nexus 5x yellow screen to see what has been happening!
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Yep I saw the 5X issues.
Well let me know what happens when you go.
Thanks.
Every amoled I have has had this to a certain extent or another. My GS6 edge, my Moto Maxx (international version of the turbo).. It's something I have grown use to on amoled displays. I can see it in all of them, even if it's slight. Some people just do not see it or notice it for whatever reason.
I have a felling that all phones will have this "issue".
I had mine against Galaxy S6 edge plus and it seemed that mine has a better colours etc. But it was on the first day and I didn't notice pink/yellow hue so wasn't looking for it in Samsung device.
Regarding CPW exchange stock. I have ordered it this morning in store and got a text it has been despatched so should have it tomorrow.
So don't worry and go to store. Just say you spoke to customer service and they told you to come to store to order new one.
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Every amoled I have has had this to a certain extent or another. My GS6 edge, my Moto Maxx (international version of the turbo).. It's something I have grown use to on amoled displays. I can see it in all of them, even if it's slight. Some people just do not see it or notice it for whatever reason.
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I was just going to ask this - for the people who are saying the screen is great and whites are really white, etc...I mean they can't really be seeing what we are seeing right? It's not awful or terrible but it is definitely noticeable slightly yellowish/warm to me, especially compared to my LCD G3 screen and an iPhone 5 screen.
Do you really think all AMOLEDs are slightly yellow/warm? I can't let myself believe that but at the same time I haven't had an AMOLED in a while so it's hard for me to decide in my mind...
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I was just going to ask this - for the people who are saying the screen is great and whites are really white, etc...I mean they can't really be seeing what we are seeing right? It's not awful or terrible but it is definitely noticeable slightly yellowish/warm to me, especially compared to my LCD G3 screen and an iPhone 5 screen.
Do you really think all AMOLEDs are slightly yellow/warm? I can't let myself believe that but at the same time I haven't had an AMOLED in a while so it's hard for me to decide in my mind...
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I was talking more about the pinkish hue. Amoled whites have always sucked. lol They are never white but always have a tint to them. With the nexus s it was a blueish tint, with later devices like the GS6, Turbo etc... it's a pinkish tint.. I mean if you just do a search of Insert_any_device_name_that_uses_amoled_screens_here and "pink tint" or "blue tint" or "purple tint" there will be at least one thread or something about it online for every single device.. lol I think some people's eyes aren't as sensitive to it so it's not as noticeable to them
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I was talking more about the pinkish hue. Amoled whites have always sucked. lol They are never white but always have a tint to them. With the nexus s it was a blueish tint, with later devices like the GS6, Turbo etc... it's a pinkish tint.. I mean if you just do a search of Insert_any_device_name_that_uses_amoled_screens_here and "pink tint" or "blue tint" or "purple tint" there will be at least one thread or something about it online for every single device.. lol I think some people's eyes aren't as sensitive to it so it's not as noticeable to them
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Well I consider mine more yellow than pinkish, and also goes away when you tilt it - but I'm sure everyone sees the temperature slightly different.
I know there are always variations of screens but knowing that there PROBABLY is a much more balanced/correct version of the display out there is an awful feeling - the thought of having to get a second one and the second one will possibly suck too is just the worst (first world problems).
It also sucks that these aren't in local stores to go in and compare the display to.
Fwiw, mines the exact same way. There's a small degree of head-on angle that goes yellow-whites instead of bluish-whites.
Putting it side-by-side with my Turbo, its still a lot less yellow and I never had an issue with the Turbo screen.
Hello guys...I think my nexus 6P has pretty bad viweing angles. It is exactly...and I mean exactly like in this video.
http ://youtu.be/XhEC4dE5XHg
Is it normal for amoled screens? Is yours the same? What should I do? I love this phone...but this is concerning me. I am waiting for your answers as I do not know if I should Return this one and ask for a new one.
Update 1: do you think a tempered glass protector will make a difference? I am about to apply one but if my unit is defective Ivwill wait until I exchange it
The viewing angles for me are crap. If I tilt it upwards the screen goes completely pink/purple. Left and right give a rainbow tint. I don't notice it 95% of the time though
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The viewing angles for me are crap. If I tilt it upwards the screen goes completely pink/purple. Left and right give a rainbow tint. I don't notice it 95% of the time though
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Do you think this is like a common thing? Or are we unlucky and most of the screens are better? It also pisses me off a little...otherwise i love the phone...but idk if I should ask for a replacement or not. I might also get a screen with a worst effect so that is why I am scard.
I think all screens are the same. Samsung kept the 100% ones and gave Huawei the 2. choice samples. If you use a higher brightness, it´s not really that bad. I´ve seen worse screens eg. in a Samsung Galaxy SIII where you could spot the glue marks..
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I think all screens are the same. Samsung kept the 100% ones and gave Huawei the 2. choice samples. If you use a higher brightness, it´s not really that bad. I´ve seen worse screens eg. in a Samsung Galaxy SIII where you could spot the glue marks..
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Funny enough i am coming from an s3 and had no problems with the screen on that one. I had to choose between the 6P and the s6 edge plus....and i chose the 6P cuz I saw that the edge plus had a really loose home button and I didn't want that. I still want the 6P more...i just really fell in love with it...but I do not know if I should try and rma it...
Is your also the same?
It's very common. There are several threads on here about it, lots of people affected and some having to return their phones 4 or 5 times to get one they are reasonable happy with.
Mine was really bad especially at angles. I returned for a refund. I couldn't be bothered to return it multiple times. Also I was annoyed that Google was ignoring my emails about it.
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It's very common. There are several threads on here about it, lots of people affected and some having to return their phones 4 or 5 times to get one they are reasonable happy with.
Mine was really bad especially at angles. I returned for a refund. I couldn't be bothered to return it multiple times. Also I was annoyed that Google was ignoring my emails about it.
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I really do not know what to do...also...if I should try another 6P or not...I am kinda afraid cuz at over 60% brighteness...my whites are actually whites instead of the pinkish whites i saw on this forum...at 100% even with adaptive they look really good. I am afraid I will get a unit with really bad uneven screen. I will try and post some pictures in a bit
It's frustrating. Like you I had an s3 and the screen on that was great. It didn't have bad whites or bad viewing angles and that was years ago
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It's frustrating. Like you I had an s3 and the screen on that was great. It didn't have bad whites or bad viewing angles and that was years ago
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I have the exact same feel! What would you do?
You might get used to the screen, don´t worry The Nexus 5 ( 2013 ) had a different type of screen where you could see the digitizer matrix if you looked close enough I´m happy with my Nexus 6p though it´s slightly warped now. The phone is great but not very sturdy from a mechanical point of view.
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You might get used to the screen, don´t worry The Nexus 5 ( 2013 ) had a different type of screen where you could see the digitizer matrix if you looked close enough I´m happy with my Nexus 6p though it´s slightly warped now. The phone is great but not very sturdy from a mechanical point of view.
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What do you mean when you say "warped" ?
I will post shortly some photos of the screen. Please let me know what you think
Okay....so here are my photos
It's an amoled. I've 4 s6. 2 10.5 tab s . 8.4 tab s and now a 9.7 tab s2 and there all the same. So it's not a defect . It's only wrong if it has a very noticeable hue or is uneven in colour. if it's even and has nice whites don't risk it
It's a shame because I love this damn device besides the crappy screen angles. Any slight deviation from straight on give me a bluish hue. Sad because the colors are so vibrant. I have played a bit with the saturation settings in Franco's kernel, but the color temp doesn't go high enough to tame the warm whites as much as I want. Just got my phone this past Monday and am still on the fence about an RMA. I just got the phone running where I want on CATA with Franco.
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Okay guys...this is my screen. The brighteness was at less than 50 and more than 70. Most of the shots were taken with adaptive brighteness on. The photos where the screen is really bright were taken with adaptive off and brighteness at around 90%
What do you think, should I try to replace it with a new one or do you think the screen is good enaugh? Would you keep it?
Here you go: http://imgur.com/gallery/PfBWw
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It's a shame because I love this damn device besides the crappy screen angles. Any slight deviation from straight on give me a bluish hue. Sad because the colors are so vibrant. I have played a bit with the saturation settings in Franco's kernel, but the color temp doesn't go high enough to tame the warm whites as much as I want. Just got my phone this past Monday and am still on the fence about an RMA. I just got the phone running where I want on CATA with Franco.
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It's an amoled. I've 4 s6. 2 10.5 tab s . 8.4 tab s and now a 9.7 tab s2 and there all the same. So it's not a defect . It's only wrong if it has a very noticeable hue or is uneven in colour. if it's even and has nice whites don't risk it
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It's frustrating. Like you I had an s3 and the screen on that was great. It didn't have bad whites or bad viewing angles and that was years ago
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Hey guys...check those photos
Mine looks white with good viewing angles
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Mine looks white with good viewing angles
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well, really happy for you, mate!
What about also checking my photos a bit?
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well, really happy for you, mate!
What about also checking my photos a bit?
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That's looks like a good screen to me. Very uniform. Keep it . I would be chuffed if mine was like that. I think we become obsessed when first coming from Lcd or Ips screens but our eyes adjust and we end up realising that we have a good amoled or not. that comparable to the whites on my Samsung S6. And it took me 4 s6 phones to get a screen this good
Thanks a lot for your reply! You made me smile a little and feel better about it . When you say "that comparable to the whites on my Samsung S6." you mean that you compared my screen to your s6 or? I also think the screen looks kinda okay...getting just a little pink when I change the viewing angle...and then green if I move it a bit more. That's why I am saying I think the viewing angles are the ones bothering me. my screen also gets kinda pink...but when I get the brightenes all the way down and I am in adaptive mode. does that also happen on yours?
Check out MKBHD's new review of the Pixel 2 / XL. Thoughts?
Halt shipping and conduct a QC investigation...
Watched this video this morning! Can't wait for my P2XL to arrive tomorrow!
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As always, an honest review.
Makes me more excited for my delivery, although it is one day past my ship date and I have no confirmation.
Blue hue, won't bother me at all.
Muted colors. I believe google will provide some options with a software update at some point, but I've already seen the phone at Verizon and the colors didn't bother me at all.
Otherwise, the phone will definitely be the best I've ever had.
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As always, an honest review.
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I worry sometimes that MKBHD is too much of an android fanboy & then a review comes out like this & I don't care anymore. LOL!
Seriously, I've watched him since he was a teenager & I believe what he says.
I don't know what to think anymore. Some say this phone is a turd. Others, like MKBHD, praise it. Guess I'm glad I didn't cancel my order and I can find out for myself. Mine is on a truck for delivery - three full days ahead of schedule. So that's good. Although I'm not sure why I'm getting my 128gb black version ahead of people who ordered a full day before me, but that's Google's terrible shipping for you.
I'm going to honestly say that all this news on the Pixel 2XL feels like a smear campaign or something. I swear, I wasn't seeing as many news stories as when Samsung had phones exploding and they were refusing to let them on planes. Why is something that is largely subjective as screen preference, dotted with a few actual hardware defects being plastered everywhere on the internet. I seriously can't scroll one or two screens, in Google, Newstand, Google+, Facebook, etc without seeing something about the damn screen.
b ..bb.bbbut the screen looks funny when i try to watch a YouTube video at the lowest light setting with 1 eye holding it sideways with a strobe light going off in the background
seriously though i don't know. Google F'ed my shipping up and i went from having it yesterday to having it Thursday so id love to put this thing to the test myself but the wait continues.
Its objectively a bad screen, thats why. Honestly i don't get why people are defending the screen. Its one thing to say you acknowledge the problem but are ok with it, but to pretend this isn't an issue is crazy and if you're ok with a $850+ phone with a bad display, then thats cool, enjoy it. I've seen three pixel 2xl's in real life (the one i bought and two others coworkers bought) and the extreme blue shift is identical on all of them, this is just how the screen is. Its worse than my 2 year old 6p screen. Do i love everything else about the phone, yes, is the display a dealer breaker for me, yes, is it for everyone, no; but again that doesnt make the screen ok on a flagship top of the price range phone. I think its embarrassing to the reviewers who were ok with it, they should be universally trashing this display, cause its the worse ive ever seen on a flagship phone.
love how he explained the color issue.
He made a great review! I don't know why everyone is crying so much. This phone is amazing. I've had it for three days now and I might be lucky but I have 0 issues. The colors for me are fine and it's really smooth. I'm extremely happy with my purchase and can't wait for further development for this phone.
I like his reviews as he is seeing the device for what it is and compares it to how he uses it.. Yes his use might be different than ours but at least he is reviewing in the sense of a normal user (or at least for me he does). The whole display thing i feel is being blown way out of proportion. Its like if no one ever mentioned it would you have really noticed it? or would you have gone about your day like it never existed. For cases where it is faulty that is where warranty comes in play. so i'll be getting my phone and going through my works but most likely i will be keeping mine
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Both my wife and several coworkers pointed out the tint immediately, "why is it so blue" without any understanding of the controversy around it. I thought i had a particularly bad one, as the blue tint happens at around a 10% angle, but two other coworkers have gotten theirs and they're identical. I thought i could deal with it, but in normal use i dont look at my phone straight on its almost always at a slight angle, so the top of the phone would be blue tinted and the bottom would look fine, and scrolling with two different color temps is a weird thing, particularly peoples faces.
To be clear, all phones shift a little, my nexus 6p has a slight blue shift then rainbow at nearly flat, and my wifes S8 has a slight red shift then rainbows, but the P2XL shift is in another world, its so extreme and so fast, and actually gets better looking at extreme angles than at slight ones.
phyl0x said:
Both my wife and several coworkers pointed out the tint immediately, "why is it so blue" without any understanding of the controversy around it. I thought i had a particularly bad one, as the blue tint happens at around a 10% angle, but two other coworkers have gotten theirs and they're identical. I thought i could deal with it, but in normal use i dont look at my phone straight on its almost always at a slight angle, so the top of the phone would be blue tinted and the bottom would look fine, and scrolling with two different color temps is a weird thing, particularly peoples faces.
To be clear, all phones shift a little, my nexus 6p has a slight blue shift then rainbow at nearly flat, and my wifes S8 has a slight red shift then rainbows, but the P2XL shift is in another world, its so extreme and so fast, and actually gets better looking at extreme angles than at slight ones.
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Thanks for the information. i do believe you on the blue tint being probably that bad. me personally i would have to use it for a week before i can decide if that will really bother me. if other see it i'm eh about it cause it's not their phone. but glad to know you noticed other people have noticed on your phone.
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Its objectively a bad screen, thats why. Honestly i don't get why people are defending the screen. Its one thing to say you acknowledge the problem but are ok with it, but to pretend this isn't an issue is crazy and if you're ok with a $850+ phone with a bad display, then thats cool, enjoy it. I've seen three pixel 2xl's in real life (the one i bought and two others coworkers bought) and the extreme blue shift is identical on all of them, this is just how the screen is. Its worse than my 2 year old 6p screen. Do i love everything else about the phone, yes, is the display a dealer breaker for me, yes, is it for everyone, no; but again that doesnt make the screen ok on a flagship top of the price range phone. I think its embarrassing to the reviewers who were ok with it, they should be universally trashing this display, cause its the worse ive ever seen on a flagship phone.
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Totally agreed with you on this. for such a high price flagship, we shouldn't be able to oversee issues like this. That's the reason I cancelled it. I'll wait a few more weeks or months if things gets better and re-order. For now, I wouldn't lie to my self and say I can live with this.
His comments on the display were interesting and it is odd that the display supports a wider color gamut but isn't using it (as evidenced by Firefox). That said, the images people typically use to compare the display are grossly oversaturated even if they are using a wider gamut. The first comparison picture he uses with the S8 has much more detail in the Pixel version because the S8 is blowing out the colors so much to produce those saturated neon greens. I'd be interested to actually see the Pixel up against another display that is using proper color saturation with a wider gamut.
Rodeojones said:
I don't know what to think anymore. Some say this phone is a turd. Others, like MKBHD, praise it. Guess I'm glad I didn't cancel my order and I can find out for myself. Mine is on a truck for delivery - three full days ahead of schedule. So that's good. Although I'm not sure why I'm getting my 128gb black version ahead of people who ordered a full day before me, but that's Google's terrible shipping for you.
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I feel like I can live with the screen washout and blue tint at the angle. I'm a little worried about the screen burn in and clucky noises that people are reporting hopefully those are just defects from a really bad batch. I get mine tomorrow so I will definitely be keeping an eye on it. If anything is bad I return it and just get the Pixel XL.
Notable XDA Dev supercurio sheds some light on some of the claims made in Marques' review.
Keep in mind this guy made the software that Erica Griffin used to measure the display. He knows what he's talking about, more than most.
https://plus.google.com/+supercurioFrancoisSimond/posts/8feW5GMgGgt
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I don't know what to think anymore. Some say this phone is a turd. Others, like MKBHD, praise it. Guess I'm glad I didn't cancel my order and I can find out for myself. Mine is on a truck for delivery - three full days ahead of schedule. So that's good. Although I'm not sure why I'm getting my 128gb black version ahead of people who ordered a full day before me, but that's Google's terrible shipping for you.
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Go with your own review, who knows what some reviewers motives are. Hell id praise a phone if it meant they kept sending me free stuff and devices! MKBHD is honest I believe though
The blue tint is when it's at a certain angle. Now that angle may be less than most phones, but I don't know of anyone who reads their phone at an angle. He explains that in the video as well. Like he said if your "that guy/gal' then this phone isn't for you. I think when people bring stuff up that bothers them & make a big deal about it everyone is looking for it. If other reviewers had never said anything this wouldn't be as big of an issue. Just nitpicking now.
I know, I know. I'm going going against what everyone else says, but I'm not trolling... I actually prefer this screen. Is it perfect? No. But my wife has the Galaxy S8 and I really do prefer the Pixel 2 XL screen over the Sammy's.
It actually has a more even color compared to the Samsung's. The S8 has a reddish tint when looking straight on that is uneven. Some areas are more red than others. Tilting the phone makes it worse. The Pixel's screen is nearly perfect looking straight on. I like the more natural colors too. And I find the Pixel 2 XL screen to be more visible in certain outdoor lighting. I think the 2 XL screen is slightly sharper looking too. Again, it's not without it's flaws, but all and all, I think I like this screen better than the competition.
This is utter nonsense, Samsung display is significantly brighter. That is not even subjective but a fact (565 nits vs 460 nits).
Unless your girlfriend has a defective device everything you said is wrong.
I dig my pixel 2 xl and would never trade it for Samsung but this kind of Google *********** annoys me.
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Let's watch the cursing. Thanks.
I agree that despite all the idiots *****ing about the color representation, my screen is nice. No overly blue tint shift or burn in. It looks good. I have installed Oreo colorizer but only because of withdrawal from a 6p sammified
If you actually read my post, you would have noticed I said it's brighter in certain outdoor conditions. Content seems more visible during overcast conditions on the Pixel 2 XL. I'm not talking about nits. There's more to visibility than nits. Screen reflectivity and other factors are important too.
This screen is better than the Samsung's. Colors are nicer. It's more visible outside and I don't have any of the so called issues that the few sky is falling people out there have been whining about.
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It's more visible outside? I don't get how that's possible since the Samsung display is brighter. Are you talking about with sunglasses on?
I'm EXTREMELY excited to see how this polarized screen works (I have HUGE pupils and I live in Vegas so I pretty much live with my sunglasses 24/7)
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It's more visible outside? I don't get how that's possible since the Samsung display is brighter. Are you talking about with sunglasses on?
I'm EXTREMELY excited to see how this polarized screen works (I have HUGE pupils and I live in Vegas so I pretty much live with my sunglasses 24/7)
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Just is. Maybe it's the polarization but it is brightness be damned
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I kind of agree. I use Automate and have a profile that automatically adjusts the brightness of the screen based on the lux value. I had to lower the multiplier because it was much brighter in different lighting conditions. I am also coming from an S8+. I really don't know why everyone is complaining about the screen. It's not that bad at all.
I don't have any complaints about blue tint, grain, black crush, burn-in, muted colors or anything like that. But what I really dislike is that there's an orange/brown tint to everything that at times makes stuff look vintage 70s. I'm going to see if the saturated mode in the new update will fix it, otherwise I'm going to have to install a custom kernel with color controls to try to get the colors right. The colors on this thing is definitely not properly calibrated.
It's not. I have both phones. I don't mind the more realistic colors of the Xl. I want to see what the update does.
I have both and the XL 2 has become my daily driver! Looking good so far!
The screen looks fine but it is, by no stretch of the imagination, better than the screen on the S8, S8+ or Note 8. Don't get me wrong, after having my 4 month stint with the S8 (which was great), I'm absolutely loving my LG G30 and would still take it over the S8, despite the screen. The screen on the V30 is nowhere near as crisp and clear as the screen on my S8 was. And to say it gets brighter than the S8 screen would just be a flat out lie.
I even took time to compare my V30 side by side with a 2 XL and another S8 in the Verizon store and the S8 screen puts both to shame in every regard. Side by side the V30 and 2 XL screens look identical, but that's to be expected considering LG made them both, seemingly around the same time.
Personally, I'm willing to give that screen up to get rid of Touchwiz and gain those beautiful sounding front facing speakers on the 2 XL (mine arrives Monday). But I cannot pretend that I'm getting a superior screen with either my V30 or 2 XL, because that simply is not true.
So I got my.hands on a pixel 3 earlier this year and had nothing but problems with the screen in terms of overall uniformity. Pink splotches or top half pink bottom half normal.
Fast forward 9 months I thought I'd give the Pixel 4 a go. Newer tech, thought these issues would have been ironed out, but obviously not.
My Pixel 4 - https://ibb.co/cCHHrRg
- Brightness around 20%
- Smooth display on
- Night light off.
Top left looks pink whilst the bottom right almost looks greeny?
I can't surely be the only one who has these issues?
Really not sure whether to return the phone for a refund or to take a gamble and get a replacement. The thought of playing the lottery again and constantly losing is a major put off.
I do miss the Pixel Line and the S10e just doesn't feel the same!
Has anyone experienced any similar issues?
Sure! mine looks similar especially at night with low brightness it even has bleeding and flashes light (try to do it yourself, go to gallery on a totally black picture, put the brightness at maximum and see yourself, pixel should be off, and they are on instead and they even flash white sometimes)
hope next batches of products will not have these issues
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Sure! mine looks similar especially at night with low brightness it even has bleeding and flashes light (try to do it yourself, go to gallery on a totally black picture, put the brightness at maximum and see yourself, pixel should be off, and they are on instead and they even flash white sometimes)
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Why accept that thought on a product that cost as much as it did!?
I'm such a big fan of Google, I had pixel 2 and 3xl, I bought the pixel 4 hoping that the camera and the whole hardware would be great, but for the price we paid it..
Not so worth imo
Thinking about moving to iPhone 11 pro, the camera so really good and is overpriced just like the pixel 4.
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I'm such a big fan of Google, I had pixel 2 and 3xl, I bought the pixel 4 hoping that the camera and the whole hardware would be great, but for the price we paid it..
Not so worth imo
Thinking about moving to iPhone 11 pro, the camera so really good and is overpriced just like the pixel 4.
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I love the Pixel line for the software but the hardware is trash.
Another photo I took earlier.
https://pasteboard.co/IMVRgiI.jpg
I can not reproduce this to the extent your photograph is showing.
While I can discern the border between the 'forehead' and the screen, it's only there if I look at it a lot closer and more intently than I would during normal use.
I've not seen any pixels flashing, perhaps you have a faulty display/connector, I'd be looking into that before using your screen as an example of all Pixel 4's having issues with their display.
I'd like to add that I think it's odd that your screenshot shows a darker black behind the legacy software buttons you've enabled at the bottom of the screen than the rest of your screen shows - odd because both areas are displayed by the screen, they should be equally black.
Finally, perhaps you should look into taking a new picture where your highlights aren't blown / your image isn't overexposed, I think it's likely there's something wrong with your RGB channels.
I'm rather enjoying my Pixel 4, while it might not be a huge upgrade from the Pixel 3 you seem to come from, I come from a Moto G3 (2015), which means it's a world of difference for me. The only drawback I can think of is the battery life, but both during and outside of work hours I'm near chargers often enough for it to matter little. I'd say calling the hardware "trash" is a bit of an exaggeration, as much of an exaggeration as your photographed proof appears to me
Merry Christmas!
superleeds27 said:
So I got my.hands on a pixel 3 earlier this year and had nothing but problems with the screen in terms of overall uniformity. Pink splotches or top half pink bottom half normal.
Fast forward 9 months I thought I'd give the Pixel 4 a go. Newer tech, thought these issues would have been ironed out, but obviously not.
My Pixel 4 - https://ibb.co/cCHHrRg
- Brightness around 20%
- Smooth display on
- Night light off.
Top left looks pink whilst the bottom right almost looks greeny?
I can't surely be the only one who has these issues?
Really not sure whether to return the phone for a refund or to take a gamble and get a replacement. The thought of playing the lottery again and constantly losing is a major put off.
I do miss the Pixel Line and the S10e just doesn't feel the same!
Has anyone experienced any similar issues?
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The smaller Pixel 4 uses an LG OLED panel (which has gotten better year after year of Google using them on their Pixel devices, but have notoriously exhibited uniformity issues across the screen -much more so than the Samsung panel the 4XL uses). That said, thankfully I don't have that red/magenta tint that seems to be fairly common for this panel (search reddit). I do however have the green tint that seems to come from the bottom of the panel up (that is a software issue caused by bad calibration of the 90hz display -regardless of whether you have 90hz on or not). It is more prominent on some screens than others, but it seems that most/all Pixel 4s suffer from that.
Anyway, I agree that Google just can't get their hardware right and, frankly, it's because they don't care. They just want people to focus on all their software innovations and since no one makes Google Play Edition phones anymore, we're stuck with their poor design and implementation.
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So I got my.hands on a pixel 3 earlier this year and had nothing but problems with the screen in terms of overall uniformity. Pink splotches or top half pink bottom half normal.
Fast forward 9 months I thought I'd give the Pixel 4 a go. Newer tech, thought these issues would have been ironed out, but obviously not.
My Pixel 4 - https://ibb.co/cCHHrRg
- Brightness around 20%
- Smooth display on
- Night light off.
Top left looks pink whilst the bottom right almost looks greeny?
I can't surely be the only one who has these issues?
Really not sure whether to return the phone for a refund or to take a gamble and get a replacement. The thought of playing the lottery again and constantly losing is a major put off.
I do miss the Pixel Line and the S10e just doesn't feel the same!
Has anyone experienced any similar issues?
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On dark theme when booting device during Google logo everything is OK screen corners are totally black but when Google logo animation starts grey tint is appearing in bottom right corner. Could you check on your pixel also?
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Sure! mine looks similar especially at night with low brightness it even has bleeding and flashes light (try to do it yourself, go to gallery on a totally black picture, put the brightness at maximum and see yourself, pixel should be off, and they are on instead and they even flash white sometimes)
hope next batches of products will not have these issues
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On dark theme when booting device during Google logo everything is OK screen corners are totally black but when Google logo animation starts grey tint is appearing in bottom right corner. Could you check on your pixel also?