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battery drooping fast

Hello I have my nexus 4 two months and my battery is not impressive at all. I read here people that in heavy use it hold 8 hours. Yesterday at work shift I only surfing internet 2 hours and after 6 hours the battery drained and phone shut down.
I use cynongen 4.2.2 and my kernel is Franco r110 any suggestions or the battery has defect and I need to replace it?

What's your kernel settings? There are multiple things that could lead to poor battery life. What's your phone setup like? If you have brightness on high, plus a lot of things auto syncing in the background. Gps on when not in use. Etc etc

Seems like your data signal is very weak.

GPS is off brightness is on auto kernel set tinges on pictures

I'm not sure kernel you're running but you can definitely unvervolt by at least -100 to -150 (careful past -100). To me those voltages settings seem kinda high. What governor and scheduler are you running? If you're looking for battery life go with on demand and noop / deadline. If you're looking for smoothness go with interactive and row / fiops combo. Don't overclock. You should get better batt life.
Edit: Just reread original post. Updating the kernel to the latest Franco may help. I also hear 111 does good job on battery life. I use trinity though so I'm not sure.

Optimizing battery life

I fish, so I need my phone to last a good while with me.
I am currently on SimplRom with SimplKernel and my battery life is not bad, but I see people getting like 6-7 hours if screen on-time.
governer is interactive and i/o scheduler is row
set my max speed to 2ghz instead of the 2.7 ghz
tried apps, tried a lot
Are there any kernels, roms with very good battery life?
And are there any tips you can give me on how to increase my battery life?
Thanks in advance!
EDIT: Oh and I have tried the powersave governor, and it's fine but I want to open and close apps normally, powersave is a little bit too slow for me..

Screen On Time just 2.5 hrs on an avg with Boeffla kernel HELPME

My settings for the CPU is performance for both

smarannss said:
My settings for the CPU is performance for both
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If you want help, you'll have to give MUCH more details about Boeffla settings, phone settings, apps you're using and general phone usage behaviour. Such as: WiFi or mobile data? Do you play power hungry games? Do you have lots of apps running in the background that use data or keep the CPU active? Do you use Xposed with Amplify/Greenify/etc.? Which governor do you use? What are your hotplug settings (i.e. CPU cores activated)? On what frequencies do your CPUs run?

vonotny said:
If you want help, you'll have to give MUCH more details about Boeffla settings, phone settings, apps you're using and general phone usage behaviour. Such as: WiFi or mobile data? Do you play power hungry games? Do you have lots of apps running in the background that use data or keep the CPU active? Do you use Xposed with Amplify/Greenify/etc.? Which governor do you use? What are your hotplug settings (i.e. CPU cores activated)? On what frequencies do your CPUs run?
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Governor: Performance/ Standard for both A57 and A53
Scheduler : Deadline
Readhead Buffer : 2048
Phone usage : Just whatsapp facebook, basically general useage..
Wifi : on all day, Data : when away from wifi ( about 20 mins in a day)
Games : Not one, phone heats up
Background Apps : Not sure But generic apps I have been using
Xposed : yes greenifed most apps except messenger, whatsapp
GPU Governor : msm - adreno-tz
CPU Frequency : 1766 (A57) hotpulg min 2 max 4
CPU Frequency : 1555 (A53) hotpulg min 4 max 4
TIA

smarannss said:
Governor: Performance/ Standard for both A57 and A53
Scheduler : Deadline
Readhead Buffer : 2048
Phone usage : Just whatsapp facebook, basically general useage..
Wifi : on all day, Data : when away from wifi ( about 20 mins in a day)
Games : Not one, phone heats up
Background Apps : Not sure But generic apps I have been using
Xposed : yes greenifed most apps except messenger, whatsapp
GPU Governor : msm - adreno-tz
CPU Frequency : 1766 (A57) hotpulg min 2 max 4
CPU Frequency : 1555 (A53) hotpulg min 4 max 4
TIA
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My bet is on the performance governor, as it always keeps the CPUs at max. frequency. This is a total waste of power and probably also the reason why your phone gets hot. Try Interactive (standard or battery unless you absolutely need the performance setting) or Impulse instead. Also, consider throttling the CPU frequency two to four steps for each cluster, and consider using only two cores on each cluster as you don't need all that power for general use.
You do know that you can set up different profiles in the Boeffla Config app, for different usage scenarios? For example, I have three profiles: for general use, for gaming, and for power saving when the battery gets low. This way, I can gradually control how much power I get and therefore also how much battery is used.

So you mean to say change the hotPlug to 2 to 4 ..?
And about the interactive mode, I was using it initially but I had keyboard lag so changed to performance...
Will try impluse and get back with the results..
Pretty much newbie in this .. so i am sorry to bother u

smarannss said:
So you mean to say change the hotPlug to 2 to 4 ..?
And about the interactive mode, I was using it initially but I had keyboard lag so changed to performance...
Will try impluse and get back with the results..
Pretty much newbie in this .. so i am sorry to bother u
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You don't get keyboard lag from using the Interactive governor, no way.
Impulse is more on the battery saving side as compared to Interactive, and in Boeffla Interactive comes with multiple different settings that allow you to further fine-tune it to your liking. So imho, you can't go wrong with Interactive.
Don't be sorry, we're all here to learn and to share knowledge

vonotny said:
You don't get keyboard lag from using the Interactive governor, no way.
Impulse is more on the battery saving side as compared to Interactive, and in Boeffla Interactive comes with multiple different settings that allow you to further fine-tune it to your liking. So imho, you can't go wrong with Interactive.
Don't be sorry, we're all here to learn and to share knowledge
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I saw a few posts related to this for OnePlus 2 and changed to interactive and battery Extreme.. I had a keyboard lag when I am using whatsapp when i shift from keyboard to smileys..
I am also using Synapse ....
And can u share me the settings that you are using ..

smarannss said:
I saw a few posts related to this for OnePlus 2 and changed to interactive and battery Extreme.. I had a keyboard lag when I am using whatsapp when i shift from keyboard to smileys..
I am also using Synapse ....
And can u share me the settings that you are using ..
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So you were on battery extreme when the lag happened? Well, try battery, standard and performance as well and see what's best for you.
I'm currently experimenting with different settings. Right now, for general use I have
A53:
Governor: Interactive - Battery
Frequency: 384-960 MHz
Hotplug: 2 cores
A57:
Governor: Interactive - Battery
Frequency: 384-1344 MHz
Hotplug: 2/2
GPU:
Governor: msm-adreno-tz
Frequency: 27-450 MHz
It's a bit laggy especially on transitions, so I'm not sure if I'll stick to it. Also, stand-by time on mobile data doesn't really improve this way. Depending on whether I can get a bit more screen-on-time using this configuration, I'll decide whether to stick with it or not.
But in general, with Interactive - Standard and the default CPU and GPU configurations, you technically can't go wrong.

Cool I will check on this for the a couple of days and get back with results
Cheers

Stop messing with Kernel Settings. Kernel dont cause Battery drain. Use Better Battery Stats and find out which app is causing your drain. And stop using Greenify. It doesnt help much. In most cases it makes things worse.

update : 1 hr 41 mins SOT with 41% battery left...
I will uninstall the Greenify and check . Will also install BBS.
I noticed a battery drop when my location was on . I dont have any location intensive apps .

Even with battery extreme, i dont have lag with keyboard. Turn on your touch boost and set it to at least 768Mhz
No wonder you get 2Hrs SOT. Performance governor was only meant for benchmark, LoL
On impulse (A53) and Interactive extreme (A57)
My average SOT is 7Hrs, maxed at 9Hrs when my LTE reception at it best.
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smarannss said:
update : 1 hr 41 mins SOT with 41% battery left...
I will uninstall the Greenify and check . Will also install BBS.
I noticed a battery drop when my location was on . I dont have any location intensive apps .
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Google Play Services itself is a location intensive app. =b
Keep your greenify, but optimize it use.
Also install amplify and powernap,
And AppOpXposed to disable the keep awake permission from Google Play Services
Check my post on Battery Life thread for details.

Scherzengel said:
Stop messing with Kernel Settings. Kernel dont cause Battery drain. Use Better Battery Stats and find out which app is causing your drain. And stop using Greenify. It doesnt help much. In most cases it makes things worse.
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otonieru said:
Even with battery extreme, i dont have lag with keyboard. Turn on your touch boost and set it to at least 768Mhz
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otonieru said:
No wonder you get 2Hrs SOT. Performance governor was only meant for benchmark, LoL
On impulse (A53) and Interactive extreme (A57)
My average SOT is 7Hrs, maxed at 9Hrs when my LTE reception at it best.
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Google Play Services itself is a location intensive app. =b
Keep your greenify, but optimize it use.
Also install amplify and powernap,
And AppOpXposed to disable the keep awake permission from Google Play Services
Check my post on Battery Life thread for details.
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Update : No difference yet ,willing to experiment
Will check your post on battery
I have turned off the keep awake thingy on AppOpXposed for google Play Services ..
I did check BBS for any abnormal apps causing troubles but did not find any ... is there any thing that I need to look at in particular

Post some Screenshots of BBS statistics and maybe a BBS log file.
For testing here is my Config with Boeffla Kernel:
Governor Impulse Standard for both.
A53 max frequenzy is 1200 everything else untouched.
I/O is Zen with 2048 Read-Ahead
Hotplug is standard. A53: 4-4 A57: 2-4
GPU is 27-510
Touchboost is 1200 too.
Gives me 6-8 SOT.

Scherzengel said:
Post some Screenshots of BBS statistics and maybe a BBS log file.
For testing here is my Config with Boeffla Kernel:
Governor Impulse Standard for both.
A53 max frequenzy is 1200 everything else untouched.
I/O is Zen with 2048 Read-Ahead
Hotplug is standard. A53: 4-4 A57: 2-4
GPU is 27-510
Touchboost is 1200 too.
Gives me 6-8 SOT.
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BBS ScreenShots

smarannss said:
BBS ScreenShots
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This is Screenshots of my Kernel Tweaks ... I dont know much what happens here [ newbie]

smarannss said:
This is Screenshots of my Kernel Tweaks ... I dont know much what happens here [ newbie]
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Screen Shots of Battery

Update the Kernel!!!!!!!!!! Beta 18 is out and you are on Beta 4. No wonder your system runs like crap. If you updated let it run for a few days and post again. And pls turn of this Battery extreme stuff ... And use standard hotplug Settings: 4-4 on A53 and 2-4 on A57.

Scherzengel said:
Update the Kernel!!!!!!!!!! Beta 18 is out and you are on Beta 4. No wonder your system runs like crap. If you updated let it run for a few days and post again. And pls turn of this Battery extreme stuff ... And use standard hotplug Settings: 4-4 on A53 and 2-4 on A57.
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Download the beta18 file and flash right??

For all of those who are on the latest Kernel Version i packed my config into Boeffla Kernel profiles so you can use them easily.
The Boeffla-Impulse-Performance has the BCL driver and the possibility for the ROM to turn down Cores of the Big Cluster switched off. Gives me better Performance and i didn't recognized any big loss in Battery.
The Boeffla-Impulse-Battery has all set to stock logic. Gives maybe a bit more Battery.
Have fun with it.
ps.: Don't be afraid if your Screen Color changes. I made little changes in the Color settings. If you don't like them, you can always switch these values back to standard.

Paranoid Android 7.3.0 vs. Lineage OS 14.1 - Doze / power / sleep?

Good morning Le Pro3 forum -
I've been switching between Paranoid Android and Lineage OS for the past few weeks. One thing I've noticed very specifically is that PA 7.3.0 (and 7.2.0...) does not seem to effectively go into 'doze' as well as Lineage OS. What I mean is that battery drain overnight is pretty high on PA (10-20%) while Lineage is very low (less than 5%) using the same applications.
So that I can better understand and troubleshoot, would anyone be willing to point me to other forum posts either here or on other forums that dive into troubleshooting this kind of thing? I'm not finding anything that useful that is *recent*.
Thanks in advance!

mdkathon said:
Good morning Le Pro3 forum -
I've been switching between Paranoid Android and Lineage OS for the past few weeks. One thing I've noticed very specifically is that PA 7.3.0 (and 7.2.0...) does not seem to effectively go into 'doze' as well as Lineage OS. What I mean is that battery drain overnight is pretty high on PA (10-20%) while Lineage is very low (less than 5%) using the same applications.
So that I can better understand and troubleshoot, would anyone be willing to point me to other forum posts either here or on other forums that dive into troubleshooting this kind of thing? I'm not finding anything that useful that is *recent*.
Thanks in advance!
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Slightly tangential, but how is the battery life overall compared to LineageOS? I've been running LineageOS and while it performs well, the battery life isn't nearly as good as stock EUI. As for over night battery drain, I get about 10% in 8-9 hours in stand by.

Hey. I tried every single rom out there from MoKee to Lineage and i can asure u one thing. Best for battery is Omni ROM (latest) + BlackScreen kernel version 3.6
Now i am a medium - heavy user. Lots of time on snapchat and playin games for about half an hour to a hour. I got 6 hours of screen on time wich is great really compared to other roms.
Now i also tried various combinations of using different governors and so on so i tested an option for about three days and then tried another one. I was seeking for the best possible battery life while don't have any stuttering or lags. Cuz if u put the cpu governor for example on impulse and then underclock it too... It lags like hell.
Soo what do u need to do to get also good standby performance?? I loose less than 3% over night.
Try following:
IN KERNEL AUDITOR
CPU: Both big and little cores governor set on alucard
Underclock the big cores to 1900 and little cores to 1440
GPU: governor set to msm-adreno-tz; underclock max frequency to 560 MHz; enable Adreno idler
I/O sheduler: set governor to noop; read-ahead 128 kB
Low Memory Killer: set profile to Agressive
Misc: Vibration strenght set on about 15%, disable Fsync, TCP must be westwood.
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Developer options:
Set logger buffer size to off
Set all three animation scales on 0.5x
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That is it. If u have any questions or something doesn't work as written -> reply back
P.S. turn off wi-fi during night. Helps a bunch.

insomnixXx said:
Hey. I tried every single rom out there from MoKee to Lineage and i can asure u one thing. Best for battery is Omni ROM (latest) + BlackScreen kernel version 3.6
Now i am a medium - heavy user. Lots of time on snapchat and playin games for about half an hour to a hour. I got 6 hours of screen on time wich is great really compared to other roms.
Now i also tried various combinations of using different governors and so on so i tested an option for about three days and then tried another one. I was seeking for the best possible battery life while don't have any stuttering or lags. Cuz if u put the cpu governor for example on impulse and then underclock it too... It lags like hell.
Soo what do u need to do to get also good standby performance?? I loose less than 3% over night.
Try following:
IN KERNEL AUDITOR
CPU: Both big and little cores governor set on alucard
Underclock the big cores to 1900 and little cores to 1440
GPU: governor set to msm-adreno-tz; underclock max frequency to 560 MHz; enable Adreno idler
I/O sheduler: set governor to noop; read-ahead 128 kB
Low Memory Killer: set profile to Agressive
Misc: Vibration strenght set on about 15%, disable Fsync, TCP must be westwood.
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Developer options:
Set logger buffer size to off
Set all three animation scales on 0.5x
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That is it. If u have any questions or something doesn't work as written -> reply back
P.S. turn off wi-fi during night. Helps a bunch.
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Hi mate, thank you for your detailed review. It helped me especially for kernel auditor settings. But i have an objection in my honest oppinion. I have tried both roms, AICP 12.1 and OmniROM and AICP is much better at battery department. But both rom is great in the rest.

SUMMERBREEZE said:
Hi mate, thank you for your detailed review. It helped me especially for kernel auditor settings. But i have an objection in my honest oppinion. I have tried both roms, AICP 12.1 and OmniROM and AICP is much better at battery department. But both rom is great in the rest.
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Really, well u know it is mostly how u use it. Cuz for my type of usage Omni works perfect. I was using AICP for a month before i tried other roms as described and it was really good but idk... When i was using it i got 4h and 30min at best with my kind of usage but with omni i got easily 6h. It depends from user to user but well... I will give AICP another shot anyway. I am glad that my review helped u.

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Really, well u know it is mostly how u use it. Cuz for my type of usage Omni works perfect. I was using AICP for a month before i tried other roms as described and it was really good but idk... When i was using it i got 4h and 30min at best with my kind of usage but with omni i got easily 6h. It depends from user to user but well... I will give AICP another shot anyway. I am glad that my review helped u.
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yes it helped a lot. especially kernel tweaking thing. both rom is great imho and 1-1.5 hr screen on time difference may marry -as you said- on which programs/apps we use. we must be glad that our le pro 3 has a great nougat support from these beautiful devs and i dont know how to thank to them. i just used 2-3 days this AICP rom and i will give also a shot to OmniROM to compare them again. I love both roms and i am sure i will keep switching between the two

[GUIDE]Make kenzo/kate a battery beast!!

Hey guys. Just wanted to share some tweaks with which you guys can get amazing battery life on your redmi note 3. I used this setup for 3 full charge cycles, and averaged about 10Hrs SOT with a 1 year old battery, when I was getting about 5-6 hrs of SOT only on normal pie/10 roms. Do give this setup a try if you want the absolute best battery, and don't mind about performance degradation a bit... The device now behaves like it's got a 5000Mah battery now. If you guys manage a better setup than this, then do share your setup down below. And please hit the thanks button if this helped you. Cheers:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:.
SETUP:
Havoc OS latest 8.1
Latest agni kernel 13.0
Spectrum profile to battery
In any kernel manager (I use fk kernel manager):
.Big cores disabled
.Little cores max clock at 1382Mhz. Min clock to 400Mhz.
.Undervolt to lowest stable value (It's different for everyone, so try out a stable value for you).
.GPU max freq to 432MHz. Min to 133Mhz.
.Adreno Idler to on.
**Guys who have the 2gb kenzo, try the mcaosp 8.0 ROM instead of havoc. It has better
RAM management for you guys.**

shivaay1234 said:
Hey guys. Just wanted to share some tweaks with which you guys can get amazing battery life on your redmi note 3. I used this setup for 3 full charge cycles, and averaged about 10Hrs SOT with a 1 year old battery, when I was getting about 5-6 hrs of SOT only on normal pie/10 roms. Do give this setup a try if you want the absolute best battery, and don't mind about performance degradation a bit... The device now behaves like it's got a 5000Mah battery now. If you guys manage a better setup than this, then do share your setup down below. And please hit the thanks button if this helped you. Cheers:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:.
SETUP:
Havoc OS latest 8.1
Latest agni kernel 13.0
Spectrum profile to battery
In any kernel manager (I use fk kernel manager):
.Big cores disabled
.Little cores max clock at 1382Mhz. Min clock to 400Mhz.
.Undervolt to lowest stable value (It's different for everyone, so try out a stable value for you).
.GPU max freq to 432MHz. Min to 133Mhz.
.Adreno Idler to on.
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Lol why u disabling cores. If u fantasize about 5000mah battery then buy redmi 8. Most of the kenzo users gone to android 10.

Black_Stark said:
Lol why u disabling cores. If u fantasize about 5000mah battery then buy redmi 8. Most of the kenzo users gone to android 10.
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You don't like it don't use it. Don't criticize him for giving his opinion. You're talking as if he's forced you to disable your phones cores.
By the way, I'll try out the setup. Thanks for posting it for all kenzo users.

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@shivaay1234, Good tutorial - thank you! Could you please share your undervolting preferences?

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@shivaay1234, Good tutorial - thank you! Could you please share your undervolting preferences?
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Glad you liked it mate. I'll tell you my undervolting values, but it's different for everyone, so, do experiment.
400 and 695 mhz with 710mv
806mhz 745mv
1017mhz 825mv
1190mhz 880mv
1305mhz 915mv
1382mhz 935mv

shivaay1234 said:
Glad you liked it mate. I'll tell you my undervolting values, but it's different for everyone, so, do experiment.
400 and 695 mhz with 710mv
806mhz 745mv
1017mhz 825mv
1190mhz 880mv
1305mhz 915mv
1382mhz 935mv
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Thanks a lot mate. You're setup is giving me close to 12hrs of sot, which is insane. I still can't believe it. Thanks man.

i will try, i dont care about android 10

rickymanx said:
i will try, i dont care about android 10
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Lol. Same here mate.

shivaay1234 said:
Hey guys. Just wanted to share some tweaks with which you guys can get amazing battery life on your redmi note 3. I used this setup for 3 full charge cycles, and averaged about 10Hrs SOT with a 1 year old battery, when I was getting about 5-6 hrs of SOT only on normal pie/10 roms. Do give this setup a try if you want the absolute best battery, and don't mind about performance degradation a bit... The device now behaves like it's got a 5000Mah battery now. If you guys manage a better setup than this, then do share your setup down below. And please hit the thanks button if this helped you. Cheers:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:.
SETUP:
Havoc OS latest 8.1
Latest agni kernel 13.0
Spectrum profile to battery
In any kernel manager (I use fk kernel manager):
.Big cores disabled
.Little cores max clock at 1382Mhz. Min clock to 400Mhz.
.Undervolt to lowest stable value (It's different for everyone, so try out a stable value for you).
.GPU max freq to 432MHz. Min to 133Mhz.
.Adreno Idler to on.
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Where I should get that spectrum profile?

Divyeshj66 said:
Where I should get that spectrum profile?
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It's an app in the play store. Link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.frap129.spectrum&hl=en

If anyone wondering, you can use Kernel Aduitor to disable cores and undervolting, it's free and it is quite comprehensive.

@shivaay1234 are you the guy who made that rapid os rom?

Ehsnf said:
@shivaay1234 are you the guy who made that rapid os rom?
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Yup.

shivaay1234 said:
Yup.
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Oh cool. Bro, but why did you stop development of rapid os? I liked that ROM so much...

Divyeshj66 said:
Oh cool. Bro, but why did you stop development of rapid os? I liked that ROM so much...
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When Q sources become stable, I will release the Q version of the ROM.

I used to disable the big cores as well on a per-app basis. For light usage like listening to music or reading ebooks, downloading stuff in the background etc it used to yield tangible improvements in battery life. Also while charging to keep battery temp. in check. Now I have Tasker automate it all.
Funnily enough in Redmi Note 3 with only the little cores active device didn't feel much slower but in my Poco F1 whose little cores are much faster (higher IPC, 25% higher clock speeds) it would feel a little laggy with big cores disabled.
Its better to undervolt only the higher frequencies and leave alone/reduce only a little the lower ones as they are much closer to the threshold voltage and more likely to cause a forced reboot if undervolted too much.

@amn1987 Thanks for bumping this thread dude, i really needed to improve my SOT. Hopefully this will help.

PRemBh0i said:
@amn1987 Thanks for bumping this thread dude, i really needed to improve my SOT. Hopefully this will help.
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Bear in mind the performance degradation can be quite noticeable. Instead of completely disabling the big cores maybe experiment with clocking them lower at 1-1.2GHz where they are most efficient in terms of perf./W IIRC. At these low clocks they will still completely outperform the little cores due to nearly 80% higher performance per clock.

SHADOW Kernel by @energyspear17
Already have QUAD core and battery mode.
You can also UV while flashing
Which would result in better battery backup.
Anyways different peoples different choices.
Good works?