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Is there a way to get missing apps to show up in the Android Market? I just did a search for Tumblr/Flickr/Gameloft and their main apps don't show up in the market. Any ways around it or possibly tricking the market into thinking I have a valid device to use these apps?
there are so many threads about this - i can't count them
basically the kf is for the android marked an unsupported device
therefor some apps are missing - you have to sideload them or google for a site where the apk is available
wouldn't editing the build.prop file to include a different device fingerprint from say, a similar high end tablet work?
I did something similar a while back with my droid 1 - spoofed a high phone's build.prop fingerprint, got on the market and got the app I wanted, then changed the fingerprint back.
it should be noted that I did this twice, and on one occasion when I changed the fingerprint back the second app refused to load because it checked device compatibility at startup... but if your app doesnt do that, then you should be home free.
(I'm new to the KF and still getting caught up on the forums, so apologies if this has already been debunked as unfeasible on the KF)
some guys have tried that (i also) - you get troubles with all the amazon apps, because it's no longer a kindle fire - in this case you can go to cm7 also - there it's the same
Sorry for the re-posting the question I guess I didn't see it, but I was thinking about changing the Build.Prop just wasn't sure if any one else had tried it yet. So even with CM7, we will still have a problem?
you don't have a problem - but you don't have a kindle - with cm7 it's like any other android tablet
Curious about this too... Sideloading is a pita.
I remember back in the old samsung moment days we had the same problem but it went away with the first of the custom roms. I already tried to modify the build.prop file with samsung galaxy device info and it didn't work. Hopefully someone will find the magic piece of code...
If you've noticed, the unlisted apps just so happen to be the ones that aren't compatible with your device. Use the browser based store and you'll see.
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download it on ur phone and save it with titanium then restore it with titanium on ur kindle ......thats how i do it
georgeos said:
If you've noticed, the unlisted apps just so happen to be the ones that aren't compatible with your device. Use the browser based store and you'll see.
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If you've noticed, almost every app people sideload works on the kindle. The only thing I've tried to install that didn't was launcher pro and I knew that wouldn't work before I tried it. I was just hoping...
I'd like to be the one that decides what works and what doesn't...
as i said - the kf is a unsupported device for the android market
it is great that it is now displayed as kindle fire - that was not in the beginning
google is shurely not interested to support the amazon device in any way because amazon built its own market
so every app that checks the device is not available, regardless if the app would be working or not
there are some apps on the market where the free version is not shown up but the paid version is
georgeos said:
If you've noticed, the unlisted apps just so happen to be the ones that aren't compatible with your device. Use the browser based store and you'll see.
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It's not as simple as that. For example Skype is available on the Market place, but without a camera or mic it's about as much use as errr a helicopter ejector seat.
However none of the Google suite are available, or even twitter! These are core apps and work just fine on the Kindle!
On the other hand, I've had to download Google Maps, Twitter etc. which all work fine on the KF, but are not in the market.
I don't mind doing that, but it seems that since they don't show up in your market application list, they won't get updated or show needing update. Frankly I'm not sure how I would update to the newer version without seeing the update on my Samsung Galaxy S2, and then searching for and installing the apk file manually.
Ive had issues with unlisted apps mainly, I do get the odd one that.works, but I prefer ones that work for certain flawlessly.
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are you guys running CM7 or the KF firmware? some of the apps you guys are talking about(twitter) show up just fine in CM7, but coincidentally, some apps still don't show up or are listed as incompatible(NBA Gametime 2011-2012 for example), which work fine if you're able to get an apk and sideload them
I am on CM7 and there are quite a few games, primarily Gameloft games, that will not play once sideloaded even though they played fine on the stock ROM. Gameloft Customer Support has said this was an issue that was being addressed in future updates, so we will see.
To clarify: Some of the apks are games I had loaded on the original Amazon ROM and saved to a backup. Some are specific to kindle (ie title includes Kindle Fire version) and fail to even so much as start without FCing. Others state that the device is not compatible.
do this, and all of your wishes will come true:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1423184
I downloaded the fdroid apk and did adb install; fdroid runs fine. I was hoping to use it to do most of my sideloading, but the firetv has "unknown apps" disabled, and for now there's no way to change that.
so everything else below, I just went to the respective developer website and got apks and then adb install.
k9mail works great, the only issue was first launch - the screen has 2 buttons at the bottom "import settings" and "next" - the 2 buttons don't show up (i.e. the text is invisible) until you scroll down on the remote (then the button text shows up) - but after getting past that I loaded up my usual settings.k9s that I had copied from my phone, and all was well.
es file manager we all probably know pretty well. although this was the first time I noticed the "remote manager" tool, which is nothing more than an ftp server. but that's nice to remotely mess with the filesystem without having to use adb.
es task manager also works as expected.
connectbot loads, but as soon as you try a connection it dies. haven't looked at logcat yet.
jackpal android terminal works normally.
EDIT:
side loaded chrome 34.0 (.1847.114) works perfectly aside from the 1st time you run it.
(the first time, the license agreement chucks the app sideways into portrait mode. if you can manage to click the large blue button, quit, and restart, it will be back in normal/usable landscape mode. there is a checkbox above the large blue button - leave it unchecked, it's not related to the license agreement, it's about ads or agreeing to receive advertisement emails or something)
side loaded firefox beta 29.0, works perfectly.
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ipcam viewer
still waiting on mine , can anyone verify ip cam viewer sideloads and works as written ?
thanks in advance..
have verified ip cam viewer and tiny cam pro work great.
This might seem like a crazy question, but is the Amazon App Store app on there or can you sideload it? Mine is in the mail and was trying to think of things to do with it before it gets here.
MajikUF said:
This might seem like a crazy question, but is the Amazon App Store app on there or can you sideload it? Mine is in the mail and was trying to think of things to do with it before it gets here.
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It already has a very fragmented amazon store built into the launcher. I tried installing the official, but the install failed because it already exists.
MajikUF said:
This might seem like a crazy question, but is the Amazon App Store app on there or can you sideload it? Mine is in the mail and was trying to think of things to do with it before it gets here.
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it's not a crazy question - a lot of this stuff is still unclear.
the app store is there, more or less - just go into the app section of the UI, and you have your installed apps and also the available apps.
or you can do it through amazon website, here's all firetv-"compatible" apps:
http://www.amazon.com/b?node=7031433011
the sad part is, it's only about 10% of what the app store offers for e.g. kindle hardware or generic android.
if you skim through the free apps for generic android on the website, you can add all sorts of useful things. once you add it, the app page tells you which of your devices it's compatible with. anything in the amazon app store that is not included in the above link is "not compatible" with firetv.
it's kinda sorta really stupid. trying to sideload the app store app isn't going to help, either - because it will still be able to ID the device as a firetv, and it will make the same restrictions. add something free like history channel or es file explorer, and it will show up here:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/mas/your-account/myapps
but they will still never show up on your fire tv, because "not compatible" (uh huh.)
(plus, I would worry about the chance of sideloading an amazon app such as the appstore, could mess up the underlying amazon-framework. probably unlikely, but...?
this is also why I have held off sideloading the kindle software reader app.
hopefully amazon will get with expanding available apps soon, it is still early days. BUT CMON NO KINDLE READER APP WTF SPAMAZON. jeez.)
xda app works. Also got google play music to load but couldn't log in to my account.
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other random notes -
I decided to try sideloading com.amazon.kindle.apk (ganked from google play store) for the heck of it, after all.
interesting part: it does seem to have some knowledge of the underlying amazon framework - doesn't ask me for ID/pass, it already knows the device is registered to amazon.
stupid annoying useless part: none of my books show up, no matter what I do.
maybe getting the apk from amazon app store rather than from google might make a difference. I dnno.
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the built-in es media player in es file explorer, works surprisingly well - I have been using it for medium-bitrate mp4 and mkv files (over smb/cifs, no less) as a temporary solution until xbmc is working better. and it's really not bad at all!
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gmail and gvoice both worked fine in chrome - mobile webpage as well as desktop webpage.
except for: no audio from voicemail playback in gvoice.
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linphone always crashes on startup, so no luck testing there.
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generic usb cameras are correctly recognized as uvcvideo. but I was not able to get com.pas.webcam.apk or any of the generic webcam test apps to work.
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nova launcher works about as expected.
at one point I did get super-hopeful because nova has a link to generic android settings, but all it did was send me to the firetv settings area. ah well.
tarvoke said:
nova launcher works about as expected.
at one point I did get super-hopeful because nova has a link to generic android settings, but all it did was send me to the firetv settings area. ah well.
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How did you switch launchers? I couldn't find a way to get Open Launcher to work, since I can't clear the default stock launcher settings.
Luxferro said:
How did you switch launchers? I couldn't find a way to get Open Launcher to work, since I can't clear the default stock launcher settings.
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I just ran it from settings->apps. it's not really a permanent switch. I haven't tried open launcher, so can't offer much help sorry.
what I got was standard nova desktop, with no notification bar (even though by default it's enabled), and with the app tray on the right.
at that point, if you press the menu/context button on the remote, you get a list of options including nova settings and android settings (which as mention, only kicks you back to the amazon settings) wallpaper and stuff.
if you go into the app list, all you see is all your sideloaded apps. no way to get to actual amazon tv/video/games/apps, without jumping back to the amazon launcher. and then you have to run settings->apps->nova again, if you want the nova desktop again. (or simply alt-tab, if you have a keyboard connected)
and you will also see an icon for the "amazon video" app, but nothing actually happens if you try to run that one. (I'm guessing it's not exactly an app as much as it is part of the framework, or some kind of helper etc.)
I don't really recall seeing any "complete action using" dialogs like I would see occasionally on OUYA, but then I didn't play around enough to see if it was possible to make the launcher more permanent or stick better. but when I ran a sideloaded app from nova desktop, and then quit (e.g. xbmc) it would exit to nova rather than to amazon.
ahhhhhhh ok I see. just now tried open launcher for myself - ok so it won't let you run the launcher without making the switch in settings. and we have no way to get to those settings. and the 'home' button the dialog box is talking about, is a very different thing from the home button on the amazon remote.
that's really too bad, it looks like a pretty nice launcher.
tarvoke said:
ahhhhhhh ok I see. just now tried open launcher for myself - ok so it won't let you run the launcher without making the switch in settings. and we have no way to get to those settings. and the 'home' button the dialog box is talking about, is a very different thing from the home button on the amazon remote.
that's really too bad, it looks like a pretty nice launcher.
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yeah, I tried to find a way, but I don't think it's possible with the stock rom, since it lacks so many settings normally found in android. There aren't too many launchers meant for GTV type boxes, and that one seems pretty since.
bkdg100 said:
still waiting on mine , can anyone verify ip cam viewer sideloads and works as written ?
thanks in advance..
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I tried tinycam free and it works great. When I get time I'll try ip camera viewer.
Can anyone try with Sopcast app?
If it can play without hiccups sopcast streamings of 3000kbps I will definetely get one
I have tried a bunch of games sideloaded.
Working with Ouya BT controller:
GTA Vice City and San Andreas
Shadogun HD
Bard's Tale
Sonic CD
Games that load but we need touch mapping once we get root:
Shadowrun Returns
Ravensword 2
Chronotrigger
FFIII
Dungeon Hunter 4
I am loading some emulators later and I will post the results.
titooo7 said:
Can anyone try with Sopcast app?
If it can play without hiccups sopcast streamings of 3000kbps I will definetely get one
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I could only see one 3000k channel on the default server - turbosport tv.
at first it was jerky because it kept running out of buffer. (even 1500k channels did too)
but then I paused and waited until the buffer went up to 100.
after that, I have been watching the 3000k football for about 5-10 minutes so far, and not a single hiccup.
really nice hd picture, and there is no corruption, no artifacts, no weird/unsettling motion/blur.
EDIT:
oh, it definitely made the firetv warmer than usual. but it is not hot in any sense.
with normal use (xbmc, Prime TV) mine is either room temperature, or a little bit warm in the one corner where the cpu/soc is.
with this program, the entire heatsink is moderately warm.
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Has anyone tried any of the tv network apps like CBS, A&E, and others?
Spotify?
Anyone tried to sideload Spotify?
Anyone tried to side load a settings.apk?
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scottsdca said:
Anyone tried to side load a settings.apk?
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FRIGGIN CHAMPION IDEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.glassxe.com/2013/05/23/s...-from-the-hacking-glass-session-at-google-io/
I loaded Settings.apk and Launcher2.apk
the launcher only crashes, so don't bother.
the settings, a lot of them crash as mentioned in the article.
but so far I have a bluetooth speaker paired, connected, and WORKING - sound is coming out the BT speaker and not my TV.
even fired up PrimeTV and sound was as normal, only it was the BT speaker.
xbmc? darn right the sound is coming perfectly out of the BT speaker.
now I turned off the BT speaker, and sound is coming out the TV again. seamless as it should be.
turned the speaker back on, and it autoconnected, all fireTV audio is back on the BT speaker again.
Apps going outside the screen
I am able to load many of the apps mentioned, but most of them go beyond the screen. Is there any way to calibrate the video?
Hi my first thread I was excited. I have been using aptoide for installing virtually anything without any difficulties and whilst browsing it informed me there was an upgrade for Amazon store, of course I clicked it, I have updates blocked in the router by the way.
Well I didn't expect much , Amazon store runs for about 20 seconds and closes so far, shame.
I opened my main menu, closing the fire menu Low and Behold all my apps now appear in the main app menu . I have powered off and on, they are still there. Here is the screen shots, excuse the text I'm on my phone . Enjoy
photize said:
Hi my first thread I was excited. I have been using aptoide for installing virtually anything without any difficulties and whilst browsing it informed me there was an upgrade for Amazon store, of course I clicked it, I have updates blocked in the router by the way.
Well I didn't expect much , Amazon store runs for about 20 seconds and closes so far, shame.
I opened my main menu, closing the fire menu Low and Behold all my apps now appear in the main app menu . I have powered off and on, they are still there. Here is the screen shots, excuse the text I'm on my phone . Enjoy
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This is a great post.
I really want this but do not want to loose my root access or want any funky issues. I think my questions will put a lot of user concerned to rest.
I hope someone brave enough who has rooted there AFTV would try your approach and see if it works. I would love it if that person can confirm the following
1) Was your AFTV rooted before you click on the AmazonApp and updated?
2) did you block OTP updates using adb or just thru router?
3) what firmware are you currently running? Is amazon stock firmware or pre-rooted firmrware?
4) Did you try the boot into CWM using Rbox boot menu and try to reboot system thru CWM for normal amazon boot?
Thank you
Doesn't this break the Amazon apps?
photize said:
Hi my first thread I was excited.
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Great first post. Thanks!
And welcome to the asylum.
jpeg42 said:
Doesn't this break the Amazon apps?
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I read in another thread that installing the Amazon Appstore breaks something.
Would be nice to have all appears appearing like this, but I'm waiting until I hear more.
hate to be that guy but this is old news. has been known for a long time
jpeg42 said:
Doesn't this break the Amazon apps?
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yes it wants u to log in with no way to. the reason i stopped using it.
pbanj said:
hate to be that guy but this is old news. has been known for a long time
yes it wants u to log in with no way to. the reason i stopped using it.
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Hi I did as stated have Amazon store open. With my details etc I clicked through to log-in all fine the store opened and can be opened but closes after a short period. I did not use the store before presuming it unavailable and just a service I don't have anything paid on the device and probably never will being an ex-pat. Just running xbmc with smart DNS all fine here Thx
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Hi I did as stated have Amazon store open. With my details etc I clicked through to log-in all fine the store opened and can be opened but closes after a short period. I did not use the store before presuming it unavailable and just a service I don't have anything paid on the device and probably never will being an ex-pat. Just running xbmc with smart DNS all fine here Thx
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it is fine if u dont use prime video or any of that but if u do it breaks things
It doesn't really break anything, and there's a simple solution to get things working as they should, simply uninstall and things are instantly back to working. What I have always done is keep the app store apk so that I can uninstall when I need to install amazon apps, then reinstall when I am done.
Reporting back
Seems as reported I jumped the gun, appstore does indeed get broken. As a helper you can use Es file manager, Go into Library and app. You will find the apk there , long hold to highlight then backup / uninstall it will ask you if you would like the factory default apk. All done and returned along with the backup for reinstallation . hope this helps
New AFTV owner
photize said:
Seems as reported I jumped the gun, appstore does indeed get broken. As a helper you can use Es file manager, Go into Library and app. You will find the apk there , long hold to highlight then backup / uninstall it will ask you if you would like the factory default apk. All done and returned along with the backup for reinstallation . hope this helps
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I have got my AFTV yesterday, I have blocked the amazon urls in my rooter and used opendns as well but still Firetv is updated to the latest version which is 51.1.4.2 I think which is unrootable. Any way I have tried OP's option of getting the aptoide and updating the amazon appstore, which broke the the appstore but all the apps appeared in the apps as OP showed in the image without doing any llama thing etc. but as in previous post I have repaired the amazon appstore and all the view is back to normal for the apps screen. So, I am thinking to update appstore again and restore my apps view which is better for me as a starter but I have to think of a way to get the appstore working for some apps. hope my exercise will someone and if anyone have solution for my problem, please reply. Thanks.
What is this? What does it do?
I've used my free time to create a noob friendly program to complete task. It can uninstall all Amazon Bloatware. It can also Install Google, Google Chrome, and Google photos. It can install Launcher hijack as well with Nova Launcher WITH widgets WORKING. This has been tested MANY times and confirmed to work on the Fire 7. This can also remove special offers
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WARNING
I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE. A FACTORY RESET WILL UNDO ALL CHANGES MADE.
Please do not PM me. Post in the forum and quote me if you need help. This way, everybody will receive the information.
Compatibility
This is for Windows only. I have no interest whatsoever do code this for Linux. If you want to port it, go ahead!
Please use Root Junky's Super Tool to install Amazon Drivers on Windows if it isn't working for you. I didn't need to install but you may need to. Click here to download it.
Why Google Photos and Google App?
This tool will install Google Photos because the remove Amazon Bloatware option will uninstall Amazon Photos. You will be using Google Photos instead. In the Camera app, in the bottom right corner where there is a preview, if you press it, it will go right to the Google Photos app if you used the uninstall Amazon Bloat Option.
This also installs the Google App too. Why? In Nova Launcher when you press the Quick Search bar, It will go to the Google App. Only if you use the uninstall Amazon Bloat option. How? It will uninstall the Unified Search package, so it will go to the Google app.
This no longer works on Fire OS 5.4.0.1 unfortunately, the uninstall method has been patched
Click here for the download link
There has been an article featuring my tool. If you want to check it out - link is here.
https://liliputing.com/2017/07/fire-tablet-tool-makes-hacking-amazons-2017-tablets-easier.html
Also I want you to know, if you choose to remove bloat, it will remove every Amazon app exept for the Camera, meaning you will be left with Camera and Settings left on your home screen.
Works, thanks.
Few comments:
If Windows doesn't have the amazon drivers, it won't work.
Installing Google Play Services and Chrome was expected, but it also added Google Photos and Google App.
Either mention it or don't include the last two.
Also, why are you saying to re-install Google Play Services even if they've been installed before?
worked on 5.4.0.0
thanks!
Robius said:
Works, thanks.
Few comments:
If Windows doesn't have the amazon drivers, it won't work.
Installing Google Play Services and Chrome was expected, but it also added Google Photos and Google App.
Either mention it or don't include the last two.
Also, why are you saying to re-install Google Play Services even if they've been installed before?
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I am sorry. It installes Google Photos because the camera app is still there after uninstall. It uninstalls Amazon Photos and you need a photos app to veiw the pictures you took.
It won't reinstall the Google Play apps but it will install Google for you
It installs the Google App because it removes unified search which means on Nova Launcher the Google Search bar actually goes to Google Now instead of the Amazon Search. I am sorry for not mentioning it. I will edit the post.
Thanks!!! used to install google play apps, and installed nova launcher, but the home button is broken though. I wonder if there's any fix for that...
(Gen 5 amazon fire 7, running 5.4.0)
ravenchaser210 said:
Thanks!!! used to install google play apps, and installed nova launcher, but the home button is broken though. I wonder if there's any fix for that...
(Gen 5 amazon fire 7, running 5.4.0)
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Really? I tested this and my homebutton is fine, Are you sure you are on the Fire 5th Generation?
Check in settings > device options > and find where it says device model.
Does it say "Fire (5th Generation" without quotes? it yes, please factory reset and try again.
savvytechwinner said:
Really? I tested this and my homebutton is fine, Are you sure you are on the Fire 5th Generation?
Check in settings > device options > and find where it says device model.
Does it say "Fire (5th Generation" without quotes? it yes, please factory reset and try again.
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thanks, factory reset and it's working perfectly now, thanks!!
savvytechwinner said:
What is this? What does it do?
I've used my free time to create a noob friendly program to complete task. It can uninstall all Amazon Bloatware. It can also Install Google, Google Chrome, and Google photos. It can install Launcher hijack as well with Nova Launcher WITH widgets WORKING. This has been tested MANY times and confirmed to work on the Fire 7. This can also remove special offers
.
WARNING
I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE. A FACTORY RESET WILL UNDO ALL CHANGES MADE.
Please do not PM me. Post in the forum and quote me if you need help. This way, everybody will receive the information.
Compatibility
This is for Windows only. I have no interest whatsoever do code this for Linux. If you want to port it, go ahead!
Please use Root Junky's Super Tool to install Amazon Drivers on Windows if it isn't working for you. I didn't need to install but you may need to. Click here to download it.
Why Google Photos and Google App?
This tool will install Google Photos because the remove Amazon Bloatware option will uninstall Amazon Photos. You will be using Google Photos instead. In the Camera app, in the bottom right corner where there is a preview, if you press it, it will go right to the Google Photos app if you used the uninstall Amazon Bloat Option.
This also installs the Google App too. Why? In Nova Launcher when you press the Quick Search bar, It will go to the Google App. Only if you use the uninstall Amazon Bloat option. How? It will uninstall the Unified Search package, so it will go to the Google app.
Download Link
Since the Files are 101 MB I am posting a Google Drive Link shared to the public. Here is the link.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B4GUCBOVtmvPeGtwQ3kxWjdHSWs
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v5.3.2.1 tested. Work ok, but go back to original after factory reset.
Just got my 8" with 5.4.0 in the mail yesterday. Updated 9 system updates first, then used this tool.
Everything worked fine. Nova works, google playstore and apps working. No ads on the lockscreen.
The bloat removal actually removed more things than I wanted it to, so I did a factory reset and went into the bat and took out some of the apps that I wanted to stay. Works like a charm.
theflathead said:
Just got my 8" with 5.4.0 in the mail yesterday. Updated 9 system updates first, then used this tool.
Everything worked fine. Nova works, google playstore and apps working. No ads on the lockscreen.
The bloat removal actually removed more things than I wanted it to, so I did a factory reset and went into the bat and took out some of the apps that I wanted to stay. Works like a charm.
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Keep in mind this tool doesn't actually remove system (most preinstalled) apps; it simply makes them unavailable and thus invisible to the current user. Akin to drawing the shades when you don't like the weather. The actions are reversible...albeit unlikely if OTA updates are blocked unless Amazon has another back-channel communication mechanism.
Davey126 said:
...albeit unlikely if OTA updates are blocked unless Amazon has another back-channel communication mechanism.
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Ahem...Guest account
DragonFire1024 said:
Ahem...Guest account
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Oh...
On the Fire 7 there is no guest account, it listed the accounts, no guest one for me
You are using the FIRE 8 HD which does have it I think
I agree, as I say in the tool, OTA REMOVAL is not confirmed.
savvytechwinner said:
Boi...
On the Fire 7 there is no guest account, it listed the accounts, NO guest one.
YOU are using the FIRE 8 HD which does have it.
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That makes no sense to not have one then and have one now.
DragonFire1024 said:
That makes no sense to not have one then and have one now.
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On your Fire 8 HD there is a guess account
on the Fire 7 (5th Generation) there isn't a guest account
at least on my tablet, plus I don't even think the guest account is active. But it could be, no garentee
savvytechwinner said:
On your Fire 8 HD there is a guess account
on the Fire 7 (5th Generation) there isn't a guest account
at least on my tablet, plus I don't even think the guest account is active. But it could be, no garentee
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It's under settings, users in activity launcher. Something activated it and I don't know what. Perhaps it's only available before everything is disabled. Either way, I see it in the user list, but I haven't been able to activate it again or for that matter disable it. Im likely to do another reset in the next day or so now that the kinks are being worked out. Hopefully the last one for a bit.
Back to wallpapers...the permission to run live wallpapers is already active in at least my tablet, of course in the damn system. I don't get Amazon. They don't want us to use them, but give the permission to, just not the APKs. They basically consider widgets a sin, but give you the activation script in front of your face. Makes me wonder if they really are sloppy, or there's a silent revolt going on internally. Either way those are pretty lame mistakes. I wonder how they're taking this being able to disable their apps.
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Back to wallpapers...the permission to run live wallpapers is already active in at least my tablet, of course in the damn system. I don't get Amazon. They don't want us to use them, but give the permission to, just not the APKs. They basically consider widgets a sin, but give you the activation script in front of your face. Makes me wonder if they really are sloppy, or there's a silent revolt going on internally. Either way those are pretty lame mistakes. I wonder how they're taking this being able to disable their apps.
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- this is an Amazon centric appliance - not a general purpose Android device
- 'good enough' probably comes into play (time/budget constraints)
- a minute sliver of Fire 7 owners will attempt to uninstall core Amazon apps unless it becomes bulletproof w/substantial advantages and no side effects
Love posts like this that pit a virtual army of heroic XDA script kiddies against evil Amazon engineers in an epic battle to control a dime store gizmo. Magnify the real business impact 1000X and you might score a footnote in some unread briefing.
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- this is an Amazon centric appliance - not a general purpose Android device
- 'good enough' probably comes into play (time/budget constraints)
- a minute sliver of Fire 7 owners will attempt to uninstall core Amazon apps unless it becomes bulletproof w/substantial advantages and no side effects
Love posts like this that pit a virtual army of heroic XDA script kiddies against evil Amazon engineers in an epic battle to control a dime store gizmo. Magnify the real business impact 1000X and you might score a footnote in some unread briefing.
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Who ever said anything about being a hero much less anything about Amazon being evil? Dime store or 5th Avenue...what difference does it make? I believe we should have the freedom to control what we rightfully own. Whatever comes of this, or that, or whatever we do, so be it. If it makes a dozen or so people a lot happier with a product they own, and that's considered 'heroic', then ok. Call it what you like. I can't count the times I've stated this is fun for me and a learning experience.
But hey, you have a good story line in a plot that goes beyond Amazon. Sounds like something I'd want to read about anyways. It's one of many battles. Small as it may be, a win is a win.
EDIT: Amazon just customized it. Within a matter of days, we've but thrown out much of that customization. When, or if we ever get root, I'd much like to spend time actually customizing it myself. Much of it can be undone by simple edits if you know where to make them. I've learned a lot in the past week, where many of those edits can be made.
theflathead, is your new Fire 8 the 7th Gen Fire HD 8?
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Just got my 8" with 5.4.0 in the mail yesterday. Updated 9 system updates first, then used this tool.
Everything worked fine. Nova works, google playstore and apps working. No ads on the lockscreen.
The bloat removal actually removed more things than I wanted it to, so I did a factory reset and went into the bat and took out some of the apps that I wanted to stay. Works like a charm.
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Did you do this on a NEW FIRE HD 8, 7th Generation???
You said you just got it, and so did I, got the OS upgrade to 5.4.0, and hoping I can use this approach. Thanks in advance. . .
Paul
I just did it on my 7th Gen, blue 7" Amazon Kindle and everything worked. You have to read the directions and go to accessbility settings and enable detecting home button press, otherwise the home button won't work on the launcher.
Rooted, installed Nova, disabled all Amazon bloatware. Kindle working great, only issue is Google Search will not respond with a voice. I'll ask what the weather is and it simply displays the result without telling me with the voice "It's 100 degrees and sunny." I'll ask using the mic button/Voice Search "who won the allstar game", no sound, no voice, just displays the answer. Have the latest google installed, playstore working fine, framework, etc. Got everything updated.
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Rooted, installed Nova, disabled all Amazon bloatware. Kindle working great, only issue is Google Search will not respond with a voice. I'll ask what the weather is and it simply displays the result without telling me with the voice "It's 100 degrees and sunny." I'll ask using the mic button/Voice Search "who won the allstar game", no sound, no voice, just displays the answer. Have the latest google installed, playstore working fine, framework, etc. Got everything updated.
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It's a bug in the Google app. I had the same issue with past updates. Whatever that last update did they broke the sound again.
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Rooted, installed Nova, disabled all Amazon bloatware. Kindle working great, only issue is Google Search will not respond with a voice. I'll ask what the weather is and it simply displays the result without telling me with the voice "It's 100 degrees and sunny." I'll ask using the mic button/Voice Search "who won the allstar game", no sound, no voice, just displays the answer. Have the latest google installed, playstore working fine, framework, etc. Got everything updated.
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I figured it out. Turn on Nova in accessibility options. Then say ok google.
I followed your directions and OK Google now works. I also hear the beep, but it still will not respond through a voice telling me what the weather is, or who won the ballgame. It just displays the information on the search app. Again no voice telling me if it's going to rain, or who won last night's game, Etc. I greatly appreciate you looking into this. So do you think it's still a glitch? I really like to hear the voice telling me stuff, I'm too lazy to read the info, LOL.
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I followed your directions and OK Google now works. I also hear the beep, but it still will not respond through a voice telling me what the weather is, or who won the ballgame. It just displays the information on the search app. Again no voice telling me if it's going to rain, or who won last night's game, Etc. I greatly appreciate you looking into this. So do you think it's still a glitch? I really like to hear the voice telling me stuff, I'm too lazy to read the info, LOL.
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Tap Google app > three lines bottom right > settings > voice. Make sure speech output is on. Also make sure you have offline speech downloaded. From there tap settings under assistant at the top > tablet and make sure thats all set.
Speech output is on, offline speech is downloaded in US English, I turned on Nova and accessibility settings, and it definitely turns on and beeps when I say OK Google but I still do not get a voice response when I ask any question. The Google app isn't your default Assist app. I'm getting that are on the Google Voice match settings. I have already deleted Alexa completely from the phone. Using ES File Explorer Pro, with root. I have also enabled Google through ADB and disabled Alexa through ADB.
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Speech output is on, offline speech is downloaded in US English, I turned on Nova and accessibility settings, and it definitely turns on and beeps when I say OK Google but I still do not get a voice response when I ask any question. The Google app isn't your default Assist app. I'm getting that are on the Google Voice match settings. I have already deleted Alexa completely from the phone. Using ES File Explorer Pro, with root. I have also enabled Google through ADB and disabled Alexa through ADB.
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You need to follow this guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/guide-enable-google-assistant-ok-google-t3740145
You basically need to download settings database editor and make the edits to secure settings. Make sure to grant settings database editor the proper permissions.
Thanks Dragonfire, started with a brand new Kindle from scratch. I accidentally bricked my old one. Long story short I started with a new Kindle HD 10, rooted, installed all the Google apps, followed all of the directions from the guide... I still do not get speech output, the Google voice does not give me the answer that I asked for. Only displays the answer. Maybe it is a glitch as you originally suggested. I disabled Alexa as the guide says, and I was able to do the voice match and everything. Google does not speak the answers. I only get the famous Google beep. And that's it. The sweet lady Google Voice stays silent.
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Thanks Dragonfire, started with a brand new Kindle from scratch. I accidentally bricked my old one. Long story short I started with a new Kindle HD 10, rooted, installed all the Google apps, followed all of the directions from the guide... I still do not get speech output, the Google voice does not give me the answer that I asked for. Only displays the answer. Maybe it is a glitch as you originally suggested. I disabled Alexa as the guide says, and I was able to do the voice match and everything. Google does not speak the answers. I only get the famous Google beep. And that's it. The sweet lady Google Voice stays silent.
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Sorry I can't help more. I've not had this issue aside from the sound issue i had mentioned earlier, which was fixed by activating nova in accessibility.