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Hey guys,
I've just ordered my 8gb omnia 7 and I'm genuinely still concerned about if 8gb will be enough.
I currently own a featurephone with a 2gb sd card, which i constantly have to swap out my music on. I carry around a pocketpc with another 2gb for video which again I have to swap.
So i'm wondering how everyone is coping with the 8gb issue... Living outside of the US meants no zune pass either. Given the restrictions on apps with Isolated storage, I can't even write something to swap files with my server while on the go :S.
I tried a few 8GB models at first, but very soon realized it just wasn't enough (Just like I had imagined, but figured I'd give it a go anyway as everyone was praising the cloud integration). After about a week the 8GB (more like 6.5GB as a bunch is reserved/used from the factory) was full and I had to start removing stuff.
The Omnia is perfect in every way apart from the 8GB memory issue. I have since ordered a 16GB version, but I would have preferred an additional SD slot (like on the Focus) for future needs.
So, if I were you I would cancel the 8GB model and order a 16GB handset from Germany. If you're buying it off-contract you may even save a few bob.
Hey emigrating, thanks for the reply.
Well, The problem is that every german version I've found is atleast 100euros more expensive than the 8gb version. (i ordered it for 500). So I'm not sure I want to spend that amount..
A little background... I've been back and forth on the SD card issue with my phone. With stock/7004 it would reboot occasionally and I got worried that it would brick my phone (it already bricked one on me previously) so I decided to rip the card out. I unbranded my phone and installed 7008 and decided to re-install the SD card. It seemed to be rather stable although still would spontaneously reboot occasionally (maybe a few times a week). I installed NoDo with the Hungary trick and it started rebooting much more frequently (several times per day). This time it would even do it when plugged in! Ugh. I had tried the registry hack but it didn't seem to affect anything.
Then yesterday's update came and it hasn't rebooted a single time since. It's a bit early to know for sure but it does seem like the issue is gone.
I don't think it's a coincidence that AT&T is now offering "certified" cards. The cards didn't change nor did their level of testing... Samsung just fixed the underlying problem. Microsoft has shown that even their certified cards can vary greatly; it's just a product of the manufacturing process.
I will note that that I put the registry changes back to their original state (DisablePowerManagement=1) as that is how the firmware that shipped yesterday has it set.
Anyone else care to chime in? Cautiously optimistic that these absurd SD card issues are behind us.
I have not had a single reboot or a stutter on my music. Its been running great!
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I have also had zero issues since the latest update...
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I went through the same steps too. With the unbranded NoDo update, my phone restarted at least once every 30 minutes. After I applied the ATT NoDo update, I haven't had a single reboot yet. I feel confident in saying that my SanDisk c2 32gb card works now.
Leads me to wonder which other cards will work now.
Running a 16GB Sandisk class 4 card, about 4GB free. Before the official AT&T nodo update, my phone was restarting a couple of times per day. Post update, my phone has been up 1 day 19 hours (so far) without a restart.
File this in the "for what it's worth" department: an acquaintance of mine works on the phone 7 application team at MSFT. He told me that the MSFT LG team had made a bunch of fixes to the SD driver, but the Samsung team was on a different release schedule and was not able to pick up the fixes for the original Focus release, but rather they were picked up in the nodo release. Given my results and the results I am reading about, this makes sense.
Comparing my WP BENCH storage speed before and after the samsung update, it increased by over a MB/s. I also have not noticed any stuttering or anything like that.
The next test would be to benchmark a non-certified card against the 8gb AT&T certified card to see if there are any noticeable speed differences...
That would be GREAT info.
I can confirm that the Transcend 16gb class 6 card still does not work after nodo. It will not even boot up after formatting the card and starting the phone.
Will you guys reply with what card you have IF the Nodo update IMPROVED your card (model, class, size and everything)
I was having problems with my Kingston 16GB C4 card, and ended up having to do a hard reset without the chip to get the NoDo update. After reading a few comments here, I added the old card and did a new hard reset. Now I have the full 22GB, but the phone wasn't remembered by Zune like it was last time. On the plus side, it looks like NoDo and the firmware are now baked in so no worries about loosing these when resetting the phone.
Anyway I'll reload all my stuff which could take weeks and I'll let you know what happens.
[The Kingston 16GB C4 card was one of the more stable cards out there. I believe only the SanDisk 8GB, SanDisk 16GB and Samsung 16GB cards worked better. I have not lost any data with the Kingston card before NoDo, but it would be slow enough to prevent me from opening some programs ocationally. I would also get a random reboot every few days.]
TOA Duck said:
I can confirm that the Transcend 16gb class 6 card still does not work after nodo. It will not even boot up after formatting the card and starting the phone.
Will you guys reply with what card you have IF the Nodo update IMPROVED your card (model, class, size and everything)
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16 GB Samsung from Nikolai on eBay. I think it's a Class 2, but I don't remember.
I have the microcenter 16GB Class 2 card loaded to 3GB free. Never had problems before Nodo, still no problem now after Nodo.
Same with mine...no issues or slowdowns or glitches of any kind. Still using the same 16GB class 4 card, too.
I purchased the new, Windows Phone approved Microsd card at AT&T before the NoDo update arrived. It installed fine, worked great before and after the update. It's an 8 GB Sandisk, Class 4 card. Everything is working great.
I jsut posted this on another thread, but it fits here too.
I just tested my Sandisk 32gb class 2 card and it screwed everything up. I had to re-establish my phone with the Zune software, then i had to sign into my phone again. Now i can't add email accounts to my phone. Tried to revert back to my backup, and now it is not showing. I'm assuming because i had to re-establish my phone with the Zune software. If i revert i will lose homebrew and Unlock, right? Does anybody know how to bring back the backup again in zune? What are my options? Problem occured over the 10gb mark.
When i got my focus , i removed the sandisk 8 gig card from my Fuze and put it in my focus and have not had a single problem from the git go. and i originally ordered it from the cell phone shop . com. lol guess i was just one of the lucky few.
Kingston 32GB Class 4
My Kingston 32GB Class 4 SDHC has worked well from day one with the exception that only half of the capacity can be used.
Once the Device holds around 20 GB of data the phone reboots when trying to add more.
As we approached the Nodo update, I had hopes that this barrier would go away, but alas after Nodo, I still cannot use the full capacity of the card. It exhibits the same behavior after filling to around 20 GB of data.
Has anyone had success with a 32 GB card that allows access to the full 40 GB available? If so, which card?
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My Kingston 32GB Class 4 SDHC has worked well from day one with the exception that only half of the capacity can be used.
Once the Device holds around 20 GB of data the phone reboots when trying to add more.
As we approached the Nodo update, I had hopes that this barrier would go away, but alas after Nodo, I still cannot use the full capacity of the card. It exhibits the same behavior after filling to around 20 GB of data.
Has anyone had success with a 32 GB card that allows access to the full 40 GB available? If so, which card?
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again as I have said earlier, the sandisk 32 gb card class 2 works flawlessly. I have had it full with only 4 gb's free for 3 weeks. Bought mine from att store.
They are also sold on amazon
Personally, I have had no issues with v7390 NoDo update, and currently have a Patriot SD 16GB class 4 card in...Have loaded up music, podcasts...past internal 8GB memory, no performance loss, random reboots at all...freezes.
Samsung Focus Rev. 1.3
{Patriot advertises this card being marketed specifically for Focus...FWIW}
I'm buying this card tonight if there are any left.
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/prod...spx?path=53f07f2a1ed3dfd176e60862966939fden02
Will report sometime this weekend if it's working. I have just over 16GB of music so the space on the card will definately get used.
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I'm buying this card tonight if there are any left.
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/prod...spx?path=53f07f2a1ed3dfd176e60862966939fden02
Will report sometime this weekend if it's working. I have just over 16GB of music so the space on the card will definately get used.
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You can get a class 4 16gb at walmart for 4 dollars less.
Quickly got my Verizon Trophy after watching the Win 7 wave roll across the world and other carriers. I was quick to grab my certified SanDisk 32GB microsd and head in for the upgrade.
We in the US seem to have a 16GB standard internal card compared to the European 8GB (USA! USA! USA!). The triumph was short lived though. Everything seemed to look exactly like the international versions and I followed to a successful insertion (giddy giddy).
On boot, I received the "Welcome to Verizon" screen and was prompted for a "Get Started." Elated! This quickly sputtered to a stall though and I ended with a "HTC" white welcome screen and nothing else.
Did a hard factory reboot a number of times and went back in and changed the card a few times. I could get back to the 16GB but the 32 would always stall with the HTC welcome screen and never progress.
The phone is back to the shipping 16 but battered and bruised from so many cracks and groans of the prying update fingernails.
Has anyone successfully upgraded the Verizon to 32GB or am I the loan loser? Could the hard watch Verizon has with the CDMA network allow them to better monitor us pesky upgraders???
from what i know, its the Class of the card that matters. when i upgraded my trophy to 32GB, i made sure it matches the same specs of the previous card (it was a class 2 sandisk 8GB mircoSD), so i bought a 32GB microSD sandisk class 2. i dont know if its faster, but i feel like nothings changed except the capacity, which i was really aiming for. some users had problems with class 4 cards from what i heard, but to be sure just match the class and manufacturer of the card.
Phone seriously problematic after 32GB card installed
Im also getting some problems with my handset after installing a 32GB card. All seemed fine until it started to reset its self randomly. This has only happened when connected to Zune so perhaps MS is putting a spanner in the works. My other thoughts were that it just might not be compatiable considering I only paid £25 for it.
Here are the specs:
Memory capacity: 32GB
Class: 6
Housing material: plastic
Working voltage: 2.7 - 3.6V
Working temperature: 0 - 60°C / 32 - 140°F
Storage temperature: -20 - 85°C / -4 - 238°F
Can anyone clarify which cards they are using if no problems have been experienced yet?
downloaderintruder - was your upgrade on the Verizon Trophy? I know the European’s have been successfully upgrading the Trophy and wanted to see if, perhaps, something was wonky with the US version. I had brought a SanDisk that was supposedly compatible but it’s really hard to tell given there is no serial number on the card or packaging.
stefanfuchsuk - great alias. There's a 10-page thread on upgrading the Trophy with a detailed spec of the compatible cards.
I don't know if it's something I'm doing, but this has happened twice now (both with an S7 and now my new S7E).
I bought my S7 with a SanDisk Extreme 64GB Micro SD. After a few months, I kept finding that on taking a photo, it was diverting to internal storage over the SD card. Rebooting sorted it for a while, but it reached a point where it locked itself and could only be read, but not written to. I sent it back to Sandisk and they issued a replacement.
Since then I've now got an S7E (I was part of the N7 scandal). I'm using the replacement Sandisk card I received and today EXACTLY the same thing has happened. The card has become completely locked. I can see the data that was on it from the S7E before it locked up, but I can't write to it. In fact, I can't even format it. If I put it in my PC I can read everything on it but otherwise it's bu**ered.
Where am I going wrong with my S7's and SD cards. Any ideas?
Cheers.
I had the same thing happen. My Sandisk 128gb got corrupted, sent it back for replacement to Sandisk. Then the replacement got effed. Then I bought a Samsung Evo 128gb and it got locked somehow. There are files on it that I can see with a PC, but when in a phone shows as corrupted. Cannot format, cannot do anything with it. I got another 128gb Samsung from Amazon and so far is working. I am worried it will do it again.
Can i ask which version of s7/edge you guys have ? I got the exynos model (n7 scandal as well) I popped in a 128 gb evo card, I'm worried it might do that to me :/
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I had the same thing happen. My Sandisk 128gb got corrupted, sent it back for replacement to Sandisk. Then the replacement got effed. Then I bought a Samsung Evo 128gb and it got locked somehow. There are files on it that I can see with a PC, but when in a phone shows as corrupted. Cannot format, cannot do anything with it. I got another 128gb Samsung from Amazon and so far is working. I am worried it will do it again.
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And me. What I've decided to do is just put music on it (i.e. read only)! That's what it's mostly for for me anyway.
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Can i ask which version of s7/edge you guys have ? I got the exynos model (n7 scandal as well) I popped in a 128 gb evo card, I'm worried it might do that to me :/
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Mine is also Exynos!
Well for me, it started when I had the AT&T 935A S7E with the SanDisk, but I now have the Exynos S7E and it is the one that the Samsung micro SD went bad on. So both models caused issues. I do flash custom roms and things and know the risks, but have never had this happen on any of my S2, S3, S4, S5, or S6 phones.
I got the same issue but I think its the card with the HC card I didnt have problems but with the XC card it got corrupted...
Try a different SDCard manufacturer to SanDisk?
Possible the replacement was from a faulty batch of cards the original was also from
Think I'm using Kingston
Did you read my post? It happened to me with a Samsung too.
Same issue here with Silicon power 64gb.
Might be the whole XC thing.... I have an old 32GB Samsung EVO knocking around. I'm gonna see if I can kill it haha! Otherwise I'm going to have to send the dead one back AGAIN.
I had te same issue on 3 SanDisk cards all SDXC, I concluded to stick with SDXC, got for the extreme versions.
I tried everything to recover or format.
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For those with locked files on the SD, what did you when sending it back?
Probably connext ur micro sd card to the pc and done diagnostics and correct disk sectors.
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Probably connext ur micro sd card to the pc and done diagnostics and correct disk sectors.
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Doesn't work. Already tried that.
There is a command you can use on dos that fixes read write or bad partition errors on sd cards . Check this link
https://appuals.com/best-guide-steps-to-fix-a-corrupt-sd-card-via-chkdsk/
Yes that's what's I've run already on my cards. I have tried everything I can find. I do work in the IT field though I'm not a programmer. The closest I've come to getting somewhere is using an application called testdisk. http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk It will help you recover any files lost but that isn't my problem. The one thing I will say is I'm pretty sure all mine have been formatted as eXfat vs fat. I had one go bad when I was messing around with adoptable storage.
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Yes that's what's I've run already on my cards. I have tried everything I can find. I do work in the IT field though I'm not a programmer. The closest I've come to getting somewhere is using an application called testdisk. http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk It will help you recover any files lost but that isn't my problem. The one thing I will say is I'm pretty sure all mine have been formatted as eXfat vs fat. I had one go bad when I was messing around with adoptable storage.
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I also used to work in the IT field! I spent about 8 hours last time trying to repair the card the first time around - in the end I just sent it back to Sandisk. You need to request an RAM on their web site.
And yea, no CHKDSK /f, or DISKPART CLEAN will touch it. It's so odd how the phone can render a card useless - yet still be completely readable.
I have an sandisk extreme pro 64Gb sdxc since april. Only use it for photos and downloads, sometimes to listen to music. It still works flaweless *knocks on wood*
Have you guys formated the card in the phone? This cause some really bad performance for me, i formatted it with my pc and SDCardformatter and the performance is better now. But sadly not as good as out of the box. Maybe samsung screw something up while formatting with the phone?
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I have an sandisk extreme pro 64Gb sdxc since april. Only use it for photos and downloads, sometimes to listen to music. It still works flaweless *knocks on wood*
Have you guys formated the card in the phone? This cause some really bad performance for me, i formatted it with my pc and SDCardformatter and the performance is better now. But sadly not as good as out of the box. Maybe samsung screw something up while formatting with the phone?
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When this happens, the card is locked. If I format the card in the phone it claims to have worked - yet nothing has actually been formatted. If I use SDCardformmatter (or Windows, or any of the 3rd party tools) they all fail. "This disk cannot be formatted"!
Yes I have put them in the phone, and my card says corrupted when in the phone, yet works fine (other than being write protected) in my PC. I did request an RMA on my first 128gb SanDisk, then it happened to the replacement, then it happened to the Samsung 128gb, and I am on my 4th 128GB which is a Samsung EVO Select. I thought it might have had something to do with not doing the full wipe of data in TWRP recovery before switching roms. It does say doing full wipe removes encryption as well as wiping data.
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I just got my A2017G for a week now and yesterday, my 1 year 2 months old microSD just died in it. It is a SanDisk Ultra 128GB card that had been used in a Panasonic CM1 and an Asus ZE552KL before going into the A2017G. All my pictures taken yesterday cannot be view although they are on the card at their full size. The card can be read off the phones or on a computer but cannot be written to, so no reformat.
I had seen on the ZTE USA forums of microSD dying in this phone, but they mostly refer to Samsung cards. Anyone here has this experience before or is this just a case of bad luck? Also, I am still on the factory B11 firmware at the moment, planning to update to B08/9 this weekend, not sure if it is a factor.
I know the SanDisk has a 5 years warranty for the Ultra range, but since the card is now read only with everything on it intact, how do I destroy the data without destroying the card? Any suggestions? Don't think they will accept a physically destroyed card as a RMA.
I have about the same micro SD card (sandisk 128GB) that has gone through my Xperia SP for about two years, and now my Axon 7 for over a year now, and I've had no issues with it. It is still working perfectly fine. I have heard of someone who destroyed their card when formatting it as adoptable storage (although on a Moto G). If you did that, it might be the cause.
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I just got my A2017G for a week now and yesterday, my 1 year 2 months old microSD just died in it. It is a SanDisk Ultra 128GB card that had been used in a Panasonic CM1 and an Asus ZE552KL before going into the A2017G. All my pictures taken yesterday cannot be view although they are on the card at their full size. The card can be read off the phones or on a computer but cannot be written to, so no reformat.
I had seen on the ZTE USA forums of microSD dying in this phone, but they mostly refer to Samsung cards. Anyone here has this experience before or is this just a case of bad luck? Also, I am still on the factory B11 firmware at the moment, planning to update to B08/9 this weekend, not sure if it is a factor.
I know the SanDisk has a 5 years warranty for the Ultra range, but since the card is now read only with everything on it intact, how do I destroy the data without destroying the card? Any suggestions? Don't think they will accept a physically destroyed card as a RMA.
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It might be bad luck but I'm not sure really. All cards go read-only after some time, but there seems to be a problem with the Axon 7 and SD cards for some reason. Once it goes read-only I think there is no way to destroy its data without actually physically breaking it; I had an 8gb SD where I kept my ROMs and zips and initially I didn't know this, and attempted to format it. I tried around 10 methods, with some shady kingston software, even with an Ubuntu live cd that i had lying around, and nothing
So I dunno...
If you're gonna save pictures and stuff I guess it'd be better for you to use an OTG and a pendrive
Yeah, it killed my Samsung 128GB card last week.
I will just put it down to bad luck for this time but think I will get a cheap PNY 64g to test for a while before buying another 128g one. I had just updated to B09 and does it support 128g+ cards?
Looking at the ZTE USA forums again today and it seems that there are both Samsung and SanDisk cards being killed in the Axon 7, so can't nail it down to a brand.
Mine was killed as well. It's a Samsung 64gb one. The 2nd one.
It killed my Samsung 64 GB one, and then it killed another replacement soon after.
This phone kill SD cards.
Does it do it on a specific firmware or all firmware? For reference, my SanDisk Ultra 128g card died on B11, now I am on B08 with a Samsung 16g as a temporary solution.
I don't believe it's a firmware issue, it might be outputting higher voltage or something like that. There's no way to find out why this happens really.
I think it's an encryption thing, because it wasn't doing it on custom roms. And it doesn't really break the card, it locks it out. But I just buy the same card, switch it in the car with the broken one. Go in and refund it. Kinda shady but it works.
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I think it's an encryption thing, because it wasn't doing it on custom roms. And it doesn't really break the card, it locks it out. But I just buy the same card, switch it in the car with the broken one. Go in and refund it. Kinda shady but it works.
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That's breaking the card. When a block goes read-only it's because it's broken, since blocks only withstand a set amount of writes before that happens. Maybe a higher voltage does that, but I just don't know.
If it's true that stock is the problem, then maybe Android 8 will not have this issue, as it is not based in mifavor
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That's breaking the card. When a block goes read-only it's because it's broken, since blocks only withstand a set amount of writes before that happens. Maybe a higher voltage does that, but I just don't know.
If it's true that stock is the problem, then maybe Android 8 will not have this issue, as it is not based in mifavor
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Yeah it happened to me twice going back to stock from custom roms. And I say it's not really broken because I can still access all my files, but I can't add anything. I hope Oreo fixes that too.
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Yeah it happened to me twice going back to stock from custom roms. And I say it's not really broken because I can still access all my files, but I can't add anything. I hope Oreo fixes that too.
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i was just saying that it's normal for a broken SD card to display that behaviour. You lose the ability to write, but not necessarily to read.
I was just saying that in case you would still try to fix it. A backup and calling warranty (if possible) is the only way out
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i was just saying that it's normal for a broken SD card to display that behaviour. You lose the ability to write, but not necessarily to read.
I was just saying that in case you would still try to fix it. A backup and calling warranty (if possible) is the only way out
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Yeah it's no use trying, I tried a lot of stuff, but I just went back to Walmart bought the same one, opened and switched it with the broken one. Went in and said it wasn't working, and got a refund.
I've been using my Patriot 200GB in the A7 for quite awhile, it's still kicking. Its been in 4 phones so far (lg v10, galaxy note 4, huawei honor 6x and now the A7. I don't use adoptable storage, and I take extra steps to ensure that encryption is disabled. But I'm using an AOSP ROM, not stock, so maybe that's why it works fine. I'm still waiting for a 500gb+ card, then I'll upgrade.
Mine died as well only after using it in my A7, luckily it was just a 32GB ADATA chip.
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I think it's an encryption thing, because it wasn't doing it on custom roms. And it doesn't really break the card, it locks it out. But I just buy the same card, switch it in the car with the broken one. Go in and refund it. Kinda shady but it works.
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Yes, my card is still under the SanDisk 5 years warranty but I do not want them to see the shady stuff that I cannot delete when I send it back to them!
An update, just 1 month later, a PNY 64GB also went funny. Videos stored on the card either became unplayable or are corrupted when playing it. Still can be written to on a computer. I did not save pictures to the card now as I am very worried about losing my pictures, so the card was used in the phone as a read only card. Really disappointed as this phone is perfect in all other aspects.
Hi,
Mine killed SD card also. 16 gb. It was long time in HTC phone, than put to Axon 7
and used for a month and written only once a backup.
Now the card totally dead, no accessible from the Axon or external card reader also.
Is the problem systematically happen when the micro SD is in adoptable mode?
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