Recommendation for watch with sim - Other SmartWatches

I have a few requirements. Currently I have the No. 1 D6. but the battery isn't great so looking for other options. Not really up to speed on the market.
Must have:
Battery lasts 30+ hours with 2 exercise sessions of 90 minutes mostly listening to music -- the rest being mostly standby time -- so maybe 900mah battery?
Ability to send/receive calls using sim card. This will be only for emergencies via my Truphone sim card I have. I do not plan to carry my phone while using the watch when I exercise. In the rare situation that me or my SO have an emergency (e.g., get hurt so I need to call 911 or my SO, or my SO has an emergency and needs to reach me) is the only reason I would make a voice call.
Bluetooth for my wireless headphones
Install Spotify
Ability to download and play back Spotify via headphones
Wi-fi to download songs from Spotify while at my house
Storage of 4GB or greater to store downloaded songs from Spotify (if external SD card option is offered and needed to meet this requirement, that's fine)
Nice to have:
Not really bulky
Square seems better just to setup or if my needs change, but not super important
Regular charger jack like USB-C or Micro-USB would be nice (as opposed to magnetic charger)
If magnetic charger, a cradle or dock is available to purchase
Can change wrist strap easily and antenna is not in strap
Full android with ability to have 7.0 or greater seems more versatile, but another OS would be fine
Active XDA thread for the watch and vendor support/updates

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Slightly OT: External HD for Universal

I'm after (read-only) 40+gb of storage for the universal, mainly as a WMA/MP3 player in the car and at work. How about this:
Cheap pentium-class laptop from ebay, wifi access point and Personal Web Server or IIS? Would the streaming audio application just work with files hosted (ie put in shared directories) on the laptop or would I need something a little more clever?
Any thoughts on the matter?
WL-HDD
A MUCH cheaper option is a WL-HDD with an external PSP battery (or a car adaptor for in-car storage). Files are accessable with resco file explorer easily or from windows file explorer with a little more difficulty. There is also a huge WL-HDD community with rom updates and so forth. Using it myself with great results, battery life is good for 4 hours streaming, but a bigger 5v 1Amp+ battery could be purchased. The battery I recommend is good as it comes with the USB-Barrel connector you need to power the drive.
WL-HDD:
http://www.microanvika.com/product.asp?TXT=INFO&PNO=ASU54305A
(or ebay it but less reliable)
Battery I use, others could work.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/External-batt...QQihZ005QQcategoryZ127742QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Interesting... Wireless Snap server...
Not too expensive either!!!!
Nice piece of kit. The only thing, though, how will this cope with streaming? I mean, won't this just present files to download completely before playing? And I guess I wouldn't be able to use playlists or a next track/next album type function in media player
Or is there any way to mount the partition as a drive (like a storage card) on the Universal?
Just to add, one of the MP3 files I have is 10gb (don't ask) so it really would need to be streamed.
xiasma said:
I'm after (read-only) 40+gb of storage for the universal, mainly as a WMA/MP3 player in the car and at work. How about this:
Cheap pentium-class laptop from ebay, wifi access point and Personal Web Server or IIS? Would the streaming audio application just work with files hosted (ie put in shared directories) on the laptop or would I need something a little more clever?
Any thoughts on the matter?
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i did exactly this at home with my first iPAQ so i could lie down and listen to any music i had on my network at home. back then 64mb flash card didn't store much music. early versions of WM needed network playlists to get the files, i haven't tried it on later version as local storage of 4gB is enough... finally.
If 4gb was enough I'd be happy, but another 200 CDs arrived yesterday and I won't get many of those on a single SD card
I just found this item which looks interesting, especially as it appears to be able to utilise 2.5" notebook HDD and USB Pen Drives!
http://www.qtds.com/products.asp?recnumber=855
Not a bad proce either, although you would obviously need to add in the cost of the HDD or Flash Drive.
Regards,
Colin.
The WL-HDD allows direct streaming, can act as a Wireless Access Point, and has a usb port so you can plug in USB storage and either make it network accessable or automatically copy the contents to the internal drive (which can be up to 100gb, IIRC). You can even plug in a webcam and set to take a photo when motion is detected, or at an interval. It can even email the photo to you!
Honestly, it is the best bit of kit I have, but you will need another power source or extended battery for the exec to handle the constant streaming for any length of time. I get about 4 hours out of it, same life as the WL-HDD .
techtalkonline said:
I just found this item which looks interesting, especially as it appears to be able to utilise 2.5" notebook HDD and USB Pen Drives!
http://www.qtds.com/products.asp?recnumber=855
Not a bad proce either, although you would obviously need to add in the cost of the HDD or Flash Drive.
Regards,
Colin.
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This seems very similar to the WL-HDD, but the power consumption is 3A. This would be a challenge to run by battery. It also has no homebrew software/bios.
xiasma said:
Nice piece of kit. The only thing, though, how will this cope with streaming? I mean, won't this just present files to download completely before playing? And I guess I wouldn't be able to use playlists or a next track/next album type function in media player
Or is there any way to mount the partition as a drive (like a storage card) on the Universal?
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As I said earlier in this post, it automatically streams files unless you choose to copy them.Through Resco, the drive is mounted just like the storage card, under the "Network" heading. To access it you simply have to log onto the drive using Wi-fi, and map the network drive by tap-holding and choosing the option "map network drive" over the network icon in resco. I use Wisbar advanced desktop (which I also recommend) so I have an icon on my desktop that goes straight there. Listening to music off it is just like from a storage card.
Pyrojester,
That sounds perfect, many many thanks.
No problem, anyone feel free to PM me or post about it, I feel like sharing the love. It works perfectly, I couldn't beleive it.
This is interesting.
My point is, my daughter fried my ipod but i am thinking of using my "spare" M5000 as an alternative, i currently have a 1gig sdd in it but was thinking of using its wifi technology to aceess my music from the pc, is this possible with this wireless drive or is there a drive that the M5000 can hook up to and access my library.
One point i would like to mention though, my ipod was hooked up to my hifi unit via its dock (which basically is the headphone socket) when i use the same lead coming out of the headphone socket of the M5000 and into the aux port of the hifi the i have to crank the volume right up to hear anything. Is there something i am doing wrong hear, just thought it would be same output as the ipod??
Pyrojester said:
The WL-HDD allows direct streaming, can act as a Wireless Access Point, and has a usb port so you can plug in USB storage and either make it network accessable or automatically copy the contents to the internal drive (which can be up to 100gb, IIRC). You can even plug in a webcam and set to take a photo when motion is detected, or at an interval. It can even email the photo to you!
Honestly, it is the best bit of kit I have, but you will need another power source or extended battery for the exec to handle the constant streaming for any length of time. I get about 4 hours out of it, same life as the WL-HDD .
This seems very similar to the WL-HDD, but the power consumption is 3A. This would be a challenge to run by battery. It also has no homebrew software/bios.
As I said earlier in this post, it automatically streams files unless you choose to copy them.Through Resco, the drive is mounted just like the storage card, under the "Network" heading. To access it you simply have to log onto the drive using Wi-fi, and map the network drive by tap-holding and choosing the option "map network drive" over the network icon in resco. I use Wisbar advanced desktop (which I also recommend) so I have an icon on my desktop that goes straight there. Listening to music off it is just like from a storage card.
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I use wisbar adv. and desktop ,b/ my question is this.how long did it take before you received your merchandise?and is there a translation in dollars for US users?
Regards
Pyrojester said:
A MUCH cheaper option is a WL-HDD with an external PSP battery (or a car adaptor for in-car storage). Files are accessable with resco file explorer easily or from windows file explorer with a little more difficulty. There is also a huge WL-HDD community with rom updates and so forth. Using it myself with great results, battery life is good for 4 hours streaming, but a bigger 5v 1Amp+ battery could be purchased. The battery I recommend is good as it comes with the USB-Barrel connector you need to power the drive.
WL-HDD:
http://www.microanvika.com/product.asp?TXT=INFO&PNO=ASU54305A
(or ebay it but less reliable)
Battery I use, others could work.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/External-batt...QQihZ005QQcategoryZ127742QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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I have looked high and low for something as suffice as the one mentioned and the only finding that i could locate is the one below:
http://www.iomega.com/direct/outlet...SORTMENT<>ast_id=26890319&bmUID=1162521361616
But its not wifi capable.I would like to order the one in this thread if someone could give me better detail on the travel time from the UK to the US.
Regards
Another Option...
I use this device : http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews_vosonic_xs_drive_super_vp6210.php (review)
I originally purchased it as a backup device for photos, as you can insert a memory card and copy its contents to the internal hard drive.
The 6210 uses laptop hard drives (any size) and it's easy to swap drives (it's supplied with a keyring screwdriver to open it up and detach drives).
It can also format your memory card.
Unlike most devices of this type, it can also write from the hard drive to your memory card, so just pop your SD card in and transfer any files you want to it, then pop your SD card back in your Universal.
Also, it has basic MP3 player functions, so I have it hooked up to my car stereo, using a standard 3.5" connector. No more listening to moronic radio jocks, bliss! Mine was supplied with a car (cigarette lighter socket) charger.
The device normally lasts about 3hr on a single charge and it has a sleep function, that switches off the screen and/or the hard drive if not being used, so it can last a fair bit.
It can also connect to a tv and play .avi or .mpeg-2 movies...
The company that makes these is bringing out a new version with an 8hr battery and a 3.6" screen, so I'm saving my pennies!
That is kind of pricey.I like the idea of being able to travel and change the options of what is stored on my SD card.Thank you.What does the amount transfer to in US dollars?
Regards
southernint3l said:
I have looked high and low for something as suffice as the one mentioned and the only finding that i could locate is the one below:
http://www.iomega.com/direct/outlet...SORTMENT<>ast_id=26890319&bmUID=1162521361616
But its not wifi capable.I would like to order the one in this thread if someone could give me better detail on the travel time from the UK to the US.
Regards
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I bought mine from a friend, but as I work for micro anvika I know they are reliable . As for shipping to america, i would recommend scanning ebay, or just googling it to purchase.
Best Mp3 player for streaming
By far the best mp3 player for both songs and audio books including streaming through wifi networks is Mortplayer. You'll love it. I imagine it will work perfectly with your wifi HD drive also. Big buttons for no stylus use. For net work drives to show up just map drive in built in file explorer first then Mortplayer picks it up. Mortplayer is free but i recommend donating as it is one of the best apps i have seen.

[info] Just got my TF101! Gonna mount it on my dash.

I got extremely lucky today when I walked into a local CanadaComputers and they happen to have two 32GB TF101 in stock after the rest of their shipment sold out the day before.
I want to build a nice mount and put it somewhere on the dash. Has anyone thought about such a project?
Hiding the cables won't be an issue. I'm going to mount a 300W A/C inverter inside the centre console and cut a piece out the back (facing the back seats) and put a small plastic or metal grate for air flow (the fan exhaust on the inverter unit will face the grate).
Will run two USB cables through the transmission box and through the dash to where the mount will be installed. One for my Captivate and the other for the tablet. The Aux port is also in the centre console for music and video purposes.
To my understanding the tablet requires a 5V/1.2A source to charge with the tablet sleeping. To use the tablet while charging, 15V/2A is required? I'm not 100% sure. There is a 12V DC port in the centre console that is only active while the vehicle is running. The tablet can charge while the vehicle is running and run on battery power (sleeping) while the vehicle is off.
Internet connectivity will be tethered from my Captivate via Mobile AP. It works *decent* but for apps that require a consistent connection often disconnect between coverage sites. I hope LTE fixes this problem.
There are some limitations but I think I work around them. Such as Always On. When I'm running Google Maps on the tablet it will still sleep. I want it on at 100% brightness while the car is on and I want it to sleep while the car is off. Kind of like how Windows 7 has power profiles - one when A/C is connected and one for battery power.
I also want the tablet to automatically connect to the Captivate when in range. Does the tablet search for Wifi connections even while sleeping? By the time I open the car door; I want the weather widget and my Gmail to be updated. I want Maps working with a data connection. Everything automated.
Voice is also a HUGE bonus with this setup. I tested it today - works very, very well. My only quibble is the voice input button on the home screen is so tiny. I need a widget with a nice big voice input button so I don't have to turn my head off the road to look at the screen.
Oh and the reason why I don't want a 3G model of the tablet is because when LTE goes live in Canada it's promising up to 150 Mb/s downlink. I don't want to be limited by the tablet's radio. 802.11n supports ~300 mbit. When I upgrade my Captivate to a new LTE phone (probably around Xmas 2011) I can tether to the tablet with the higher speeds without a hitch! 3G is so 2010.
I'm so hyped this is gonna be AWESOME when it's done.
Give me ideas!
Of course you buy a Garmin GPS that is more accurate, and has weather, traffic, gas prices, car mount, etc and works when there is no Wifi signal for $200.
jerrykur said:
Of course you buy a Garmin GPS that has weather, traffic, gas prices, car mount, etc and works when there is no Wifi signal for $200.
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but does it have a 10 inch IPS touch display with a tegra 2 and USB host? + internal storage for movies of course.
jerrykur said:
Of course you buy a Garmin GPS that has weather, traffic, gas prices, car mount, etc and works when there is no Wifi signal for $200.
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Small screen, can't watch movies, no browser, no email, no music...
flak4 said:
Small screen, can't watch movies, no browser, no email, no music...
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He might as well be saying "why buy a transformer if you can buy a netbook for 200"
This sounds like an awesome project, I'll look forward to seeing your updates. Tasker might be a handy app for this.
seshmaru said:
but does it have a 10 inch IPS touch display with a tegra 2 and USB host? + internal storage for movies of course.
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No, they have screens you can actually see in daylight unlike a tablet.
As for the rest, if you was watching movies or using the USB host to run your coffee warmer while driving please stay away from me. Heck, if your talking on your cell phone and driving stay away from me.
flak4 said:
Small screen, can't watch movies, no browser, no email, no music...
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Watch movies, browse web, check email, lose control, skid onto on coming traffic, kill yourself and kill others. Superb idea.
gumbi4u said:
Watch movies, browse web, check email, lose control, skid onto on coming traffic, kill yourself and kill others. Superb idea.
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Because only the driver could ever want to watch movies or browse the web. Checking your mail in the dunkin donuts parking lot is also ridiculous and dangerous and will kill everyone.
gumbi4u said:
Watch movies, browse web, check email, lose control, skid onto on coming traffic, kill yourself and kill others. Superb idea.
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Why are you all crapping on my thread?
I practically live out of my car because of my job. I use to do everything off of my phone and Zune. But the displays are too small. Yes this includes watching movies on my phone while waiting for some tests to complete (which can take hours). I use my phone for GPS and Google Maps (I don't use standalone GPS units). I drive long hours and spend a lot of time away from my home.
My laptop is good but is a hassle to set up. Personally I find navigating a tablet easier than navigating a laptop using the mouse pad. Using a laptop while sitting in the drivers seat is cramped, too. It's so annoying that I usually browse using my phone rather than my laptop.
The tablet can potentially replace the need for a Zune, GPS and laptop (for browsing, email and multimedia purposes) in this scenario and its functionality and performance will only improve over time.
You're telling me this isn't a sweet idea?
I was hoping to get some more thoughtful responses. If anyone has any answers for my initial post - regarding the AC requirements for the tablet - and how I can automate tethering, please share.
flak4 said:
Why are you all crapping on my thread?
I practically live out of my car because of my job. I use to do everything off of my phone and Zune. But the displays are too small. Yes this includes watching movies on my phone while waiting for some tests to complete (which can take hours). I use my phone for GPS and Google Maps (I don't use standalone GPS units). I drive long hours and spend a lot of time away from my home.
My laptop is good but is a hassle to set up. Personally I find navigating a tablet easier than navigating a laptop using the mouse pad. Using a laptop while sitting in the drivers seat is cramped, too. It's so annoying that I usually browse using my phone rather than my laptop.
The tablet can potentially replace the need for a Zune, GPS and laptop (for browsing, email and multimedia purposes) in this scenario and its functionality and performance will only improve over time.
You're telling me this isn't a sweet idea?
I was hoping to get some more thoughtful responses. If anyone has any answers for my initial post - regarding the AC requirements for the tablet - and how I can automate tethering, please share.
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If you have wifi set to on at all times and the network is remembered, it will auto connect when in range. Regarding the power, you'll need 2A 15v to charge it while it's awake. The USB cable supplied however doesn't deliver enough power and can't be used with a car adaptor for USB, you'll need to have a converter to use the wall charger for the tab.
Not sure about the other things though.
Take a look at thsi Youtube video below. The day the Ipad 2 was released, this guy mounted one in the dash of a new F150. Custom fiberglass/bondo work to rebuild the console to allow the docking directly in the dash.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jr3_zLHTbY
Tablet mounted into dashboard = sexy
Not legal in some US states, I have no idea about Canada.
flak4 said:
I got extremely lucky today when I walked into a local CanadaComputers and they happen to have two 32GB TF101 in stock after the rest of their shipment sold out the day before.
I want to build a nice mount and put it somewhere on the dash. Has anyone thought about such a project?
Hiding the cables won't be an issue. I'm going to mount a 300W A/C inverter inside the centre console and cut a piece out the back (facing the back seats) and put a small plastic or metal grate for air flow (the fan exhaust on the inverter unit will face the grate).
Will run two USB cables through the transmission box and through the dash to where the mount will be installed. One for my Captivate and the other for the tablet. The Aux port is also in the centre console for music and video purposes.
To my understanding the tablet requires a 5V/1.2A source to charge with the tablet sleeping. To use the tablet while charging, 15V/2A is required? I'm not 100% sure. There is a 12V DC port in the centre console that is only active while the vehicle is running. The tablet can charge while the vehicle is running and run on battery power (sleeping) while the vehicle is off.
Internet connectivity will be tethered from my Captivate via Mobile AP. It works *decent* but for apps that require a consistent connection often disconnect between coverage sites. I hope LTE fixes this problem.
There are some limitations but I think I work around them. Such as Always On. When I'm running Google Maps on the tablet it will still sleep. I want it on at 100% brightness while the car is on and I want it to sleep while the car is off. Kind of like how Windows 7 has power profiles - one when A/C is connected and one for battery power.
I also want the tablet to automatically connect to the Captivate when in range. Does the tablet search for Wifi connections even while sleeping? By the time I open the car door; I want the weather widget and my Gmail to be updated. I want Maps working with a data connection. Everything automated.
Voice is also a HUGE bonus with this setup. I tested it today - works very, very well. My only quibble is the voice input button on the home screen is so tiny. I need a widget with a nice big voice input button so I don't have to turn my head off the road to look at the screen.
Oh and the reason why I don't want a 3G model of the tablet is because when LTE goes live in Canada it's promising up to 150 Mb/s downlink. I don't want to be limited by the tablet's radio. 802.11n supports ~300 mbit. When I upgrade my Captivate to a new LTE phone (probably around Xmas 2011) I can tether to the tablet with the higher speeds without a hitch! 3G is so 2010.
I'm so hyped this is gonna be AWESOME when it's done.
Give me ideas!
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Why would you mount it on your dash? Want it flying in your face in an accident? Get a 99 bucks gps.
nxp3 said:
Why would you mount it on your dash? Want it flying in your face in an accident? Get a 99 bucks gps.
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I guess some people don't read threads. Idiot.
Some people just have to come and **** on everyone's great ideas and dreams. Personally it sounds to me like this can make your life easier, and more awesome. Post some pics as soon as you have them!
I have the same project in works, I am using a Pro Clip and pad tap to accomblish it in my 2007 bmw 3 series. I have both the parts ordered and in transit, will mount this saturday and share pictures if u are intereted. The tethering would be done with my HTC evo using the sprint 4G network and to avoid the wires mess will be using blackberry bluetooth gateway to connect to car stereo.
Gonnaaa be shiccccckkkk.
You don't need Wi-Fi to get GPS to work like some idiots are saying, only if you rely on Google Maps. Even if you want to use Google Maps, you can tether up the Transformer with your phone.
I mounted the TF to my vents, shot a video few days ago

Car installation headache

Ok, so I've been trawling the threads for hours and the time has come to make my first post on this..
Here's what I really want to do, and whether or not, as I understand, I can do it:
Nexus 7 in dash, 3G model - fine, been done loads of times
250GB USB HDD, connected via USB OTG, containing my music library - possibly, depends on my hard drive? Will it work if I can provide a secondary source of power to the HDD (my caddy allows this)
Charge the N7 at the same time - again possibly, with CM10 and kernel mod? Also new to Android so shooting in the dark a bit here.
OPTIONAL/BACKUP IDEAS:
Wi-Fi drive of some sort - If it works then maybe, seems like an extreme option though for a car install.
Google Music and stream my entire collection (I have 15GB monthly data sim that I can use in the N7) - will work but not ideal for me. I have a lot of lossless music which I won't be able to take advantage of this way. Which brings me on to...
USB DAC through OTG cable - possible I know, but to do this on top of the other stuff is gonna be difficult and unreliable? Can live with just the headphone jack output for the time being, unless:
Utilise the pogo pins for a line out and charging - would be a nice solution in the car but again, possible?
It would be fantastic if someone could tie this all together simply for me somehow, or if anyone has any far better ideas for what I'm trying to do :good:
Also feel free to ridicule my noob-ness
Cheers

Bluetooth 3.0+HS vs Bluetooth 4.0 : Can't get more than ~150 kbps to ~ 20x kbps

I am a new owner of the Z1 Compact, and I cannot seem to get Bluetooth 3.0+HS features to work with my laptop. The goal is to synch the phone's 128GB SD-card with my music library, and move any new photos off the phone and onto the laptop for backup.
The link works fine, no errors, but roughly 150 kbps is the best I am doing here over Bluetooth, very painful, makes me want to pull out a USB cable and just plug the phone in.
I bought a few of the magnetic charger cables from a cable vendor, so I am trying to open the little "doors" as little as possible, as they seem to have a lifespan, being rubbery plastic. I'd rather use Bluetooth high speed if I can.
I am rooted at .216 of 5.1.1, but other than removing bloatware, I have not done anything fancy to mess with the phone.
Use wi-fi transfer (plenty of apps for this on the playstore) if you can't use the USB cable. Bluetooth is best for streaming media, not copying large files.
packetfire said:
I bought a few of the magnetic charger cables from a cable vendor, so I am trying to open the little "doors" as little as possible,
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I hear you. Did the same. Sadly charging with the magnetic cable is very slow, but I don't care over night.
About the sync.
How about 'MyPhoneExplorer'. It's a free app I'm using for years now and you can sync wireless.
I use it atm to sync contacts, photos (from different folders, you know, every app a little bit different) and recorded music files.
Swaddy said:
I hear you. Did the same. Sadly charging with the magnetic cable is very slow, but I don't care over night.
About the sync.
How about 'MyPhoneExplorer'. It's a free app I'm using for years now and you can sync wireless.
I use it atm to sync contacts, photos (from different folders, you know, every app a little bit different) and recorded music files.
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Yes, I use "My Phone Explorer" for contacts and calendar and such, but for photos and music, I am now using the Lenovo "SHAREit" program, which uses a direct WiFi link, and is far faster than bluetooth or USB. It looks like Bluetooth 3.0+HS has been abandoned in favor of the ultra low-power features of Bluetooth 4.0, dunno why both can't coexist.
On the magnetic charger cable, don't blame the cable, blame whatever you plug it into! Mine changes up lickety-split, so get a better wall wart, or check/change the USB port.

DIY Car Black Box

Hi, just wondering if I could use my old phone as a Car "Black Box". In other words, with it connected to the OBD-II (OBD2) port, could it log all my driving data (when I accelerated/braked, indicated for a lane change, tracked my revs and speed, GPS tracked my route, etc)?
I mean you certainly can. There's plenty of bluetooth OBD2 modules that will connect to your phone through a variety of apps, though you might have to sift past those that require subscriptions or active provider plans or similar requirements, but I'm sure there are some that work with free phone apps to do what you're thinking.
I guess if you have an old phone doing nothing otherwise, you might as well chuck a big sd card in it, or even use an OTG adapter to connect a larger storage, and hell you could even use it as a dashcam or interior cam as well, or at least provide storage and viewing for a dedicated camera otherwise.
Might as well be as protected and secure as you can!

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