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Will we get Nougat 7.0?!

LG have announced V20 will be released next month with 7.0 so this means we will definitely get 7.0 as well?
http://www.xda-developers.com/lg-of...to-come-in-september-with-android-7-0-nougat/

No it doesn't mean gonna get anything above 6.0
V20 is a new phone and it will come with 7.0 preinstalled and stuck with 7.0 for quite a while if I judge from LG's current update policy. Wait for an official 7.0 device update list from LG. Only then we will know if we gonna get it. Even if we will get it's going to take a lot of months. LG is not even updating G4 for security updates. I'm stuck with January security patches. So If I judge from all this I can't be very optimistic. In any case look forward for the official LG device update list. Should be out in 1 or 2 months.

Riardon said:
No it doesn't mean gonna get anything above 6.0
V20 is a new phone and it will come with 7.0 preinstalled and stuck with 7.0 for quite a while if I judge from LG's current update policy. Wait for an official 7.0 device update list from LG. Only then we will know if we gonna get it. Even if we will get it's going to take a lot of months. LG is not even updating G4 for security updates. I'm stuck with January security patches. So If I judge from all this I can't be very optimistic. In any case look forward for the official LG device update list. Should be out in 1 or 2 months.
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They do, I'm on carrier unlocked 815 and I received OTA with June security patch a month ago. I was assuming this because there's 18 months policy to support the device and we still have 2 months left, so for example if Google will announce 7.0 in September we will still have 1-2 months left, they did release 6.0 for G4 in similar period of time.

F-L-Y-E-R said:
They do, I'm on carrier unlocked 815 and I received OTA with June security patch a month ago. I was assuming this because there's 18 months policy to support the device and we still have 2 months left, so for example if Google will announce 7.0 in September we will still have 1-2 months left, they did release 6.0 for G4 in similar period of time.
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Your phone is just one of the many variants this phone has in many countries. I'm on the open EU one and I'm still on January patch. No OTA since then. Nougat is releasing this month. In few days according to the leaks. That's why V20 will come with 7.0 bcz the final 7.0 will be already out. In priority list must be LG G5 and V10 and then G4. We can only hope we will get 7.0. But until I see an official LG device update list I'm not expecting anything.

Riardon said:
Your phone is just one of the many variants this phone has in many countries. I'm on the open EU one and I'm still on January patch. No OTA since then. Nougat is releasing this month. In few days according to the leaks. That's why V20 will come with 7.0 bcz the final 7.0 will be already out. In priority list must be LG G5 and V10 and then G4. We can only hope we will get 7.0. But until I see an official LG device update list I'm not expecting anything.
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Yes for sure, that's why I never understood this '18 months support' policy, they must change it for 2 major OS releases guaranteed instead... Because one year Google might release new OS in August, next year in October etc. And it depends a lot on device release date as well. In general I agree with you that update policy sucks a lot, not just for LG but for all manufacturers.

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F-L-Y-E-R said:
Yes for sure, that's why I never understood this '18 months support' policy, they must change it for 2 major OS releases guaranteed instead... Because one year Google might release new OS in August, next year in October etc. And it depends a lot on device release date as well. In general I agree with you that update policy sucks a lot, not just for LG but for all manufacturers.
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LG is a bit worse than others according to my personal experience. That 18 months period doesn't make any sense. It should be 2 years at least. Unofficiall it can extend beyond that. There is just no guarantee. You may get an update after those 18 months or you may not. The only devices that guarantee you with timely system updates are Nexus and iPhones. iPhones have the longest support. Nexus have unofficial long support beyond those 18 months via custom roms. For all the rest you are at the mercy of the OEM. As for our device we should get 7.0 but nothing is certain. Let's just wait for LG to tell us their plans for the G4.

Riardon said:
​LG is a bit worse than others according to my personal experience. That 18 months period doesn't make any sense. It should be 2 years at least. Unofficiall it can extend beyond that. There is just no guarantee. You may get an update after those 18 months or you may not. The only devices that guarantee you with timely system updates are Nexus and iPhones. iPhones have the longest support. Nexus have unofficial long support beyond those 18 months via custom roms. For all the rest you are at the mercy of the OEM. As for our device we should get 7.0 but nothing is certain. Let's just wait for LG to tell us their plans for the G4.
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P.S. LG actually did update G3 with 6.0 February security patch and until July it had newer security patch than G4 LOL, even though 18 months passed in December 2015, although for some reason it wasn't available via OTA so I had to install LG update tool in order to get it.
By the way, have you tried LG Bridge to check whether there's an update available?

yes G4 get i think 15 december-16 april betwen the date

i hope so.. i think 5.02 and MM shouldnt exist LP has bugs and MM doze not kickinng while movemnet ..

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LP has bugs
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Such as ?
and MM doze not kickinng while movemnet ..
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Doze isn't supposed to work with movement. It works when the phone is still and the sensors show no movement. This is by design.
I don't know how much better doze will be, the standby on LP is already pretty good.
4-6% loss over 12 hours ?

I personally think we would get Android Nougat, only because of LG's update pattern.
Each Flagship goes on this pattern:
OTB OS & Second Sort of Big Update (not too many new UX features, but new android version) are within LG's 18 month support, and then there is a 3rd update which is the major update, which usually updates UX, Android Version, and adds a lot of new features.
Because of this pattern, the G4 should have one more major update before we stick to custom roms/security patch updates.

http://www.bing.com/news/apiclick.a...n-2016/165569&c=4819151737868183870&mkt=en-us LG has released several smartphones this year, but it is likely to release Android N first to LG G5. It is also speculated to bring the new firmware upgrade to LG V10 and LG G4 this year.

One Twelve said:
Such as ?
Doze isn't supposed to work with movement. It works when the phone is still and the sensors show no movement. This is by design.
I don't know how much better doze will be, the standby on LP is already pretty good.
4-6% loss over 12 hours ?
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such as memory leaks, ram management. they were fixed on 5.1.1
then its useless most people walk or move you know..and carry their phone with them..i think this is nice feature only if it kicks in earlier and while movement...
yes standby on LP is good i dont know why they made doze.. i get 10 hour stand by either LP or MM 0%

G2 was released with 4.2, and got upgraded to 4.4 and 5.0
G3 was released with 4.4, and got upgraded to 5.0 and 6.0
G4 was released with 5.1, and got upgraded to 6.0 and probably will get an upgrade to 7.0, I think.

raptorddd said:
such as memory leaks, ram management. they were fixed on 5.1.1
then its useless most people walk or move you know..and carry their phone with them..i think this is nice feature only if it kicks in earlier and while movement...
yes standby on LP is good i dont know why they made doze.. i get 10 hour stand by either LP or MM 0%
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Doze is super effective. I lost only a few percent in a full day (24hrs) and I didn't have access to my phone. Nougat will be even better because it will be more aggressive, the phone won't need to be still for it to kick in, and it should kick in faster. Nougat will come, but I am not holding my breath for this year. Probably early 2017. Note they need to figure out how to conserve battery with the screen ON. 3Hr SOT doesn't cut it...

Quickdraw996 said:
Doze is super effective. I lost only a few percent in a full day (24hrs) and I didn't have access to my phone. Nougat will be even better because it will be more aggressive, the phone won't need to be still for it to kick in, and it should kick in faster. Nougat will come, but I am not holding my breath for this year. Probably early 2017. Note they need to figure out how to conserve battery with the screen ON. 3Hr SOT doesn't cut it...
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yes but most of the time phone is in motion. in pocket...
yeah someway better SOT or a bigger mah battery with same dimmensions.

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yes but most of the time phone is in motion. in pocket...
yeah someway better SOT or a bigger mah battery with same dimmensions.
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Exactly! The phone won't have to be still in Nougat for Doze to kick in.

The LG G5 will get 7.0 on December 2016, the LG G4 will get it on February 2017 apparently.

mingocr83 said:
The LG G5 will get 7.0 on December 2016, the LG G4 will get it on February 2017 apparently.
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Where did you get this information?

kouzelnik3 said:
Where did you get this information?
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This. I would like to know this too. No company announced 7.0 update list as of yet. 7.0 is not even out yet.

H990DS; Hey LG, where are the security updates for january and february 2017???!!!

where are the security updates for january and february 2017 for V20 H990DS???!!!

I wouldn't complain the newest build for the T-Mobile variant is December.

yep they're taking way too long with the updates...

I have the US996 unlocked version and we are also stuck on the December patch, hopefully we get something this month!

Hope they are working on a new build... Probably 7.1 not sure... LG won't delay this much without a reason... But as a buyer ... Its irritating and makes me to think different

jameslapc2 said:
I wouldn't complain the newest build for the T-Mobile variant is December.
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H990DS unlocked also still on december security patch! come on LG!

I know if you run one one of the AOSP ROM's you can get one of the new patches. But at that point it kind of defeats the point of getting the V20.

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I know if you run one one of the AOSP ROM's you can get one of the new patches. But at that point it kind of defeats the point of getting the V20.
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Yeah, especially considering the second screen doesn't work with aosp :/
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Call it copying all you want but with the HTC Ultra having a second screen I see a bright future for second screen in AOSP. I'll bet someone else will copy the second screen too. At that point hopefully some developers can cobble up some code that allows the second screen to finally work on the V30 if that ever exists and has that awesome feature. After all developers eventually got the pen to work on the Note series be it a few generations in the series but still. I'm confident we'll someday have a working second screen in AOSP.

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Call it copying all you want but with the HTC Ultra having a second screen I see a bright future for second screen in AOSP. I'll bet someone else will copy the second screen too. At that point hopefully some developers can cobble up some code that allows the second screen to finally work on the V30 if that ever exists and has that awesome feature. After all developers eventually got the pen to work on the Note series be it a few generations in the series but still. I'm confident we'll someday have a working second screen in AOSP.
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This is true and I sure hope so! I mainly use the second screen for a night clock and notifications since we lack a notification led.
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Been almost three months since the last update! I also have a Samsung S7 Edge (mainly for VR), and it has been getting a steady stream of updates.
This is my first LG phone (got swayed by the DAC) and it is disappointing to see the lack of support, that too for a flagship phone.
Maybe the dev team is small and currently everyone is busy with the G6. Hoping some of that stuff gets ported over to the V20. Also hoping I can eventually root the phone...
Btw, how long does LG support its flagship phones? Is it reasonable to expect two years of updates for the V20?

My previous phone, P9 Plus already have the Feb. 1, 201 sec patch. Come on LG, unlock H990DS and update V20 to 7.1 already!!!! Or at least the latest security patch!!!!
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Been almost three months since the last update! I also have a Samsung S7 Edge (mainly for VR), and it has been getting a steady stream of updates.
This is my first LG phone (got swayed by the DAC) and it is disappointing to see the lack of support, that too for a flagship phone.
Maybe the dev team is small and currently everyone is busy with the G6. Hoping some of that stuff gets ported over to the V20. Also hoping I can eventually root the phone...
Btw, how long does LG support its flagship phones? Is it reasonable to expect two years of updates for the V20?
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My Lg G2 had at least 4 years of support before it went capput. That is good of LG at east, just slow.

The LG G6 came pre-loaded with Feb Sec Patch, and still on 7.0
keep that in mind, we wont ever get 7.1 , if anything it will go to 8.0 next
Feb Sec Patch For Ls997 is out there but it seems like it got pulled, either to wait for G6 to launch or a issue with the code.
Either way, id be safe to assume there wont be 7.1 for us, but a jump from 7 to 8.

LG historically has skipped the .1 updates and just gone to the full fledged updates.

No update since 2016 December. Hope they will release some update in april.

yeah we can start adding march and april to the title...

Today I got the update (march).
It is V10e-SEA-xxx.

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Today I got the update (march).
It is V10e-SEA-xxx.
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yep, looks like the SEA version is always ahead with updates...
wondering if switching from TWN to SEA would be a good solution...

LG seems to put the V-series on the slow lane. V10 was very slow to get any kind of update. It is rumored they weren't even going to update the V10 to Nougat, leaving it as it is, but T-Mobile pressured them to update it to Nougat. I'm hoping they'll not let the V20 languish, but they're throwing everything at the G6, now, and letting the V20 become the "discount" phone.

No update yet for me. My phone is at V10d-AUS-xx.

How good is LG keeping up with the Android releases and how often does it update UX?

I have been a HTC lover for almost sever years (Desire HD --> ONE X --> M7 --> M9) and I've decided to go for my next phone. Although the U11 looks like an impressive phone, I'm still a bit hesitant to go for it. Next to G6 and S8, the U11 sure looks like an ancient phone (I'm not a big fan of shinny backs and the front view of the phone looks awful in my opinion).
Not a samsung admirer hence I would like to give the G6 a try, but my only worry is how much is LG dedicated towards releasing the android updates. I didn't have troubles with HTC and I am sure Samsung will take care of this too but not I'd like to know how much is LG committed towards this. I do like the vanilla android but I don't feel like getting into the rooting business anymore (I'm too old for that and can't keep up), so I'd be heavily relying on LG OTA updates. Also I hear that LG UX has immensely improved, but would like to know if you guys think that LG will keep updating it's own UX.
Thoughts and comments are welcome, as I'd be ordering my new phone today.

Just got the G6 a few weeks ago, and as a first time LG owner I was wondering the same, I'm sure others will give more informed opinions but from what I've read LG are quite good at keeping us up to date, I've had a UX and a patch update since I got the phone which is promising.
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Only been using a V20 for almost 3 weeks and from what I've read here and the V20 forum I believe LG aren't quick, or even regular, with updates.
But maybe you've left it a bit late to be asking, hope you get more replies soon.
Edit: two conflicting replies already :laugh:

I am probably going to answer my own question but surprisingly LG got the first Nougat update compared to all other phones out there. Source - http://www.androidauthority.com/android-oem-update-speed-743073/

Here there are, more ore less, the major updates received by the G-Series starting from the G2:
- G2: 4.4.2, 5.0.2
- G3: 5.0, 6.0
- G4: 6.0
- G5: 7.0
LG is pretty fast to release major updates, but it isn't for security patches.

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I am probably going to answer my own question but surprisingly LG got the first Nougat update compared to all other phones out there. Source - http://www.androidauthority.com/android-oem-update-speed-743073/
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The V20 was the first phone to be released with Nougat 7 out-of-the-box.
Not a lot has happened since then.

In my experience, LG has been quick with their updates. I believe my Sprint G5 was one of the first to get the Nougat update.

LG is usually first to update to newest Android versions (except Google's own phones offcorse).
G3 was the first OEM phone to get Lollipop update, G5 was first to get Nougat,...
We may not get the 7.1 update but I'm pretty sure they'll skip it because we'll be the first ones to get Android O (minus Google's phones).
I've had this phone for almost 2 weeks now and allready got 1 UX and 2 system updates so... They're really fast.

Really does depend? My G4 is fine for updates my G5 was more miss than hit!

Android 7.1 Update ??? Will we get it ?

When will LG rollout Android 7.1 update for LG G6 ? Will they give 7.1 or directly to Android O ?? Beacuse 7.1 has many improvements including battery optimization.

no we no
LG update only main version. and security patch...
But now big problem. lastest security patch april 1---
Flagship phone-Shame lg shame..

kabirjedi said:
no we no
LG update only main version. and security patch...
But now big problem. lastest security patch april 1---
Flagship phone-Shame lg shame..
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So now the LG users are doomed? The biggest security risks are the users themselves that downloads apk files of the Play Store grid and don`t read their rights when installing them And yes i`am sure we`ll get 7.1 and after that Android O.

Got the EU G6 delivered today. I really like the design and screen.
To my amazement it was running the April patch. I was assuming that LG had their updates working by now, like Samsung. Even my old Note 4 from 2014 gets regular updates and has the May patches. The G6 being a flagship phone and anything but cheap, this is unacceptable to me. Needless to say it's going back to Amazon tomorrow.
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Got the EU G6 delivered today. I really like the design and screen.
To my amazement it was running the April patch. I was assuming that LG had their updates working by now, like Samsung. Even my old Note 4 from 2014 gets regular updates and has the May patches. The G6 being a flagship phone and anything but cheap, this is unacceptable to me. Needless to say it's going back to Amazon tomorrow.
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So... this bothered you to the extent that you actually returned the phone? It runs good, has an excellent screen, top-notch camera, IP68 and so on, but screw all that - it's not sporting the latest security patch from Google.

MrDeacon said:
So... this bothered you to the extent that you actually returned the phone? It runs good, has an excellent screen, top-notch camera, IP68 and so on, but screw all that - it's not sporting the latest security patch from Google.
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Yes, the missing updates are the core reason and it goes to show that LG still doesn't care, just like Samsung once upon a time. Samsung has now understood and are much better at keeping their units up to date. And as you can see at least some customers do care.
Everyone has different priorities and having the manufacturer keep the software up to date is very high on the list for me.
As to the LG G6 itself - I do like it a lot. But the fact that they have cut more corners adds to the software dilemna.
Here in Europe we get no wireless charging and are stuck with a measly 32GB. The Asian model gets 64GB and is even 100 EUR cheaper (go figure) and would work in terms of the LTE frequencies. But as we know that one isn't unlockable which is the next move by LG I don't agree with.
And lest I forget, the Snapdragon 835 is a huge boost compared to the 821, that's another sub par feature of the G6.
LG and others like them are going to go the way of the Dodo if they don't keep up with the Jones's and release their units with tons of features missing and without proper software support.

Your first post only mentioned the security update being a month behind as your reason for returning it.
Now youre complaining about details that you knew (or should have known) before before deciding to purchase it.
What are these "tons of features missing"?

I'm talking about the 821 vs. the 835 the phone deserves. Then no wireless charging, lack of community support due to the bootloader only being open in certain regions.
I would have been fine with all of it but the software just did it for me.,
It's still a nice phone but not for me.,
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And it's not one month behind. LG gets the April update in March, by now they already have the July update. June is already out since Tuesday.
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Calm down now. Korean version supposedly allready got May security patch so we're gonna get it any time now.
Also, LG doesn't do "small" OS upgrades so no, we're probably not gonna get 7.1.1 or 7.1.2 but we will definitely be the first ones to be getting Android O which is right around the corner. That's how LG rolls.

WstrKuNoužč said:
Calm down now. Korean version supposedly allready got May security patch so we're gonna get it any time now.
Also, LG doesn't do "small" OS upgrades so no, we're probably not gonna get 7.1.1 or 7.1.2 but we will definitely be the first ones to be getting Android O which is right around the corner. That's how LG rolls.
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That's right! :good:

LG OS support questions

Hi. I am looking at buying a G6 but I want to kow a couple of things first.
Firstly, how quick are LG with deployment of security updates for non carrier non US phones?
Secondly, how many years does LG support a phones OS updates before ending it?

I can't give you exact values but I'm very disappointed with how LG is supporting their top phone. We have that Blueborne bluetooth issue for like 2 months, google has already released a patch, but LG G6 is still stuck on 10T rom.
G6 looks great, it feels great, but my next phone (or maybe I will sell this one earlier) will be a Pixel or Oneplus. The closer to stock - the better for you.

bodziec said:
I can't give you exact values but I'm very disappointed with how LG is supporting their top phone. We have that Blueborne bluetooth issue for like 2 months, google has already released a patch, but LG G6 is still stuck on 10T rom.
G6 looks great, it feels great, but my next phone (or maybe I will sell this one earlier) will be a Pixel or Oneplus. The closer to stock - the better for you.
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I totally agree. I am disappointed too because battery drain, OS version, security patch, etc etc. It is a beautiful device but my next phone will be a Pixel, OP or Xiaomi. I think I'll never buy another LG in the future.

MuttleyMB said:
I totally agree. I am disappointed too because battery drain, OS version, security patch, etc etc. It is a beautiful device but my next phone will be a Pixel, OP or Xiaomi. I think I'll never buy another LG in the future.
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I think it's not only LG. I guess Samsung and other "top" companies do the same. They release a beautiful phone that is really tempting to get but then you are left with an outdated software. They don't really care about existing customers.

bodziec said:
I think it's not only LG. I guess Samsung and other "top" companies do the same. They release a beautiful phone that is really tempting to get but then you are left with an outdated software. They don't really care about existing customers.
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Up until a few years ago, Samsung used to abandon the devices themselves by releasing a few upgrades, even problematic.
Recently, the situation seems to have changed with faster releases of the security patches even for older devices. LG instead continues not to shine. Unfortunately!