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Why does the Evo have screen lag?

I noticed that the Evo has a touch sensitive lag that is more apparent than any other device. A lot of noobs here thought it was due to the FPS but obviously it wasn't. I can figure it out myself because logically, screen size does not change how heat is transfered between the screen. I'm really curious what exactly it is.... notice how on the iPhone/iPad/iTouch there is zero to no lag in touch display and movement which is what makes gaming on Apple so wicked. The Evo is by far the worst device for this.... Its not a deal breaker by any means, but it is very noticeable when switching between an Apple product and the Evo.
Anyone got any theories as to what it may be? The lag is definitely there but nobody is really talking about it. There MUST be a fix - and NO its not putting custom rom like CM6 on it... its not a rom issue.
I really hope that in future devices Android phone makers will focus on reducing lag times. If there is any apparent gap between iOS and Android besides that app market it would be the lag issue. The reason I even thought of this was when reading a gaming thread earlier today - made me curious...

Oh I totally agree! Just spent 30 mins on 1 level of angry birds trying to be precise and ugh....I'm still trying to calm down.....damn frustration. I've never really spent more than 5 mins with an apple phone so I can't compare. But I could totally tell the lag. But really I've only actually noticed it a couple of times so I dunno what's up
Sent from my Evo

werxen said:
There MUST be a fix - and NO its not putting custom rom like CM6 on it... its not a rom issue.
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Well of course you're right...
Though I have seen the lag disappear with the addition of Kingx BFS11 kernel. So technically it's not a rom, but a kernel has fixed it for me.

willy900wonka said:
Well of course you're right...
Though I have seen the lag disappear with the addition of Kingx BFS11 kernel. So technically it's not a rom, but a kernel has fixed it for me.
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Really? So it does not matter how fast you move left to right the screen stays perfectly in sync with the origin....?

werxen said:
Really? So it does not matter how fast you move left to right the screen stays perfectly in sync with the origin....?
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Or even in circles.

Well, my EVO is pretty responsive, scrolling and pressing things is super responsive.
Kinda weird, but I open the App menu and just scroll through the apps list up and down, kinda weird but it's just fascinates me sometimes .
Maybe you have too much processes going on?
I'm using EvIo Caulkin ROM

Yeah, this problem was a big letdown for me... like you said, not a deal breaker, but very annoying. It just seems to be tiny things that they overlooked. But it appears not so tiny when a lot of other people notice the issue as well.
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Weird. I'm using 100% stock Evo and I also have used an iPhone extensively, and I don't notice any difference to be totally honest... the complete opposite in fact. I've always concluded the Evo was one of the best.
I'm just an average user, maybe I'm not trained enough to notice lol.
Sent from my HTC EVO 4G.

No problems here
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I only notice it with Sense UI... Other phones like the Epic or whatever, seem to have less of a lag with touch. The minute I install an AOSP ROM, it's butter smooth and more responsive.
And it's not a ROM issue, just a Sense issue.

DC 3.6 and net's 4.2.1 bfs. Responsive as hell. Though, before the fps fixes, lag and studder were very apparent.
Sent from my HTC SUPERSONIC

The iPhone's touch panel is just better.

dglowe343 said:
DC 3.6 and net's 4.2.1 bfs. Responsive as hell. Though, before the fps fixes, lag and studder were very apparent.
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That's not what the OP is talking about. You're thinking of "visual smoothness", the OP is talking about touch accuracy.
Here's a article that goes into it and shows how much better the iPhone is. It's from earlier this year, so no EVO or iPhone 4 comparisons, but it should be a similar case for both.

never had any issues with screen lag/responsiveness.
On a side note though, and very weird, I went to do a test in Angry Birds like someone had mentioned and Angry Birds was mysteriously no longer installed on my phone...bizarre....

Well, guess I misunderstood the OP as well. Mine is very responsive. Sorry.
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I'm using MIUI and Zen kernel and have no noticeable lag, even when playing games. I will say, however, that the glass screen of the iPhone does give it a performance boost on touchscreen response.

i had some lag issues with fresh 3.4 with the stock kernel switched to kings bfs 11 touch lag gone don't know why but it was switched to net's and lag was back left that kernel on and recalibrated the touch screen by calibrateing the keyboard and lag disapeared again but that was me don't know if it will work for anyone else

Award Tour said:
The iPhone's touch panel is just better.
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Actually, the touch panel on the evo is simply the best on the market. Look up Atmel MaXTouch... This might simply be a driver issue or even a design decision.
Atmel maXtouch: http://www.atmel.com/products/touchscreens/default.asp
Unlimited touches
Low power consumption
Fast response — completely redraws screen every 4/1000 of a second (4ms) to
eliminate recalibration issues
Excellent signal-to-noise ratio for superior precision — 3x better than competitive
products
Superior performance for first-touch response — 3x better than competitive
products
Unambiguous, unlimited touch support
Responsive user interface: > 250 Hz report rate for a single touch
Extremely low current consumption: < 1.8 mW in "touch-ready" state
Two touch adjacency of less than 10 mm on a 4.3 inch (10.9 cm) touchscreen
Small footprint with few external components
Supports stylus, fingernails, and gloves
Grip and face suppression functionality: avoids false touches
Size and angle of touch supported
Screen sizes up to 10.2 inches (25.9 cm) are supported by a single chip
Proximity channel support
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It even supports gloved hands if the OEM wants that enabled.

The only lag I have is when the phone is plugged in/charging. Other than that there is absolutely no other lag on my Evo. Those that are experiencing lag make sure it's not during charging.
On a side note the OP is truly an iPhone bias according to his previous post. Thought It's pretty funny.

werxen said:
I noticed that the Evo has a touch sensitive lag that is more apparent than any other device. A lot of noobs here thought it was due to the FPS but obviously it wasn't. I can figure it out myself because logically, screen size does not change how heat is transfered between the screen. I'm really curious what exactly it is.... notice how on the iPhone/iPad/iTouch there is zero to no lag in touch display and movement which is what makes gaming on Apple so wicked. The Evo is by far the worst device for this.... Its not a deal breaker by any means, but it is very noticeable when switching between an Apple product and the Evo.
Anyone got any theories as to what it may be? The lag is definitely there but nobody is really talking about it. There MUST be a fix - and NO its not putting custom rom like CM6 on it... its not a rom issue.
I really hope that in future devices Android phone makers will focus on reducing lag times. If there is any apparent gap between iOS and Android besides that app market it would be the lag issue. The reason I even thought of this was when reading a gaming thread earlier today - made me curious...
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If you're up-to-date and you have a significant amount of free space on your internal storage and your phone is still laggy... return it because it's obviously defective.
Try a factory reset and/or a new kernel. Then kill off some of the sprint and htc bloatware.
Going from HTC Kernel #11 to #17 there was a noticeable difference in performance for me.
Going from there to AOSP was a complete improvement.
The stock rom is unbearable once you use a tweaked rom.
If none of that works I would bet your phone is defective and you should go back to your iphone.
Want to supply us with a software version and kernel version of your phone?
Or atleast something more than "The Evo sucks and the iphone is great"

solving touch screen sensitivity issue

Today i got Gnote and realised that it has the same touch screen sensitivity issue as galaxy s2. Minor issue but an issue
If u dont understand by what i mean
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRXcBcpSD1w
Here is the orignal thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161262
I did not do anything
Just download the app from there and run it.
It solved for me.

drgopoos said:
Today i got Gnote and realised that it has the same touch screen sensitivity issue as galaxy s2. Minor issue but an issue
If u dont understand by what i mean
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRXcBcpSD1w
Here is the orignal thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1161262
I did not do anything
Just download the app from there and run it.
It solved for me.
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Does it work for S-pen writing some memos as well? It would be serious improvement if that's the case.

Niuseek said:
Does it work for S-pen writing some memos as well? It would be serious improvement if that's the case.
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mmmm.. WIll have to test that out.

S-pen doesn't have that problem
And the patch doesn't work in the note.

Are there others who are experiencing this problem on their Note?

Sharpshooterrr said:
Are there others who are experiencing this problem on their Note?
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No. I've been doing pinch-zoom's in Gallery (which was where I noticed it from the SGS2) and don't notice any delays in finger recognition.

aussiebum said:
No. I've been doing pinch-zoom's in Gallery (which was where I noticed it from the SGS2) and don't notice any delays in finger recognition.
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Alright that's good to hear. The problem might not affect all handsets.

Confirm the problem is there and even the app doesn't solve this, but I didn't really notice. S-pen in SMemo doesn't seem to be affected, but reducing to 0 the hyst still gives the "sticky" behaviour, which maye, or may not, be a con depending on the various uses.

so the way to confirm the problem if i understand correctly is to install the mentioned app and test for jumps in coordinates ?

Gnote
I have had my Gnote for 25 days, my device is way to sensative in certain areas of the screen with the S-pen only. i can hold my S-pen 10mm away from the screen and it will activate the apps or words. it gets annoying when im on a rush taking notes, it sometimes quadruple clicks on apps, i stop using my S-pen and get my screen dirty with natural oil smudges. Kinda Lame. Any way i am going to AT&T today to test a different S-Pen, or switch Devices.... Does anyone like the White GNote Vs. Black/ or blue?

Nexus 4 pinch zoom delay

I just bought a Nexus 4, and am waiting for it to arrive. I just read about this dreaded pinch zoom delay (i.e. delay when zooming). Is this still an issue with the latest ROMs/kernels out there? I can see this causing me a lot of frustration if not fixed.
I've already searched, and the threads I've found are all either old or have not been completely answered.
Thanks!

I have no problem with zooming, and I bet that you won't too. Just wait for the phone, and don't read all the bad stuff. It won't do you any good. There are some rare bugs, but most users don't have them.

I don't have any delay in zooming issue either.

filthykid said:
I don't have any delay in zooming issue either.
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I doubt it
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There is no zoom delay, its a dead zone. You have to move your fingers a certain amount before it detects it as a pinch to zoom or zoom out. I think it is intentional. Try doing it extremely slow, you'll see what I mean.

bustem said:
I doubt it
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You shouldn't

username8611 said:
There is no zoom delay, its a dead zone. You have to move your fingers a certain amount before it detects it as a pinch to zoom or zoom out. I think it is intentional. Try doing it extremely slow, you'll see what I mean.
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You've got it right. It's DEFINITELY present and those who don't see it either just innocently don't notice it or are denying it. Every single video review of the N4 I've seen has pointed out this issue (or feature, if you like) and I can very clearly see it on my device as well. OP, I'm not saying you should care about it (I don't even notice it any more) but it does exist.

I thought it was established long ago that the culprit was 'chrome' browser.. i just checked it in AOSP browser i cant seem to see any delay.

Nigeldg said:
You've got it right. It's DEFINITELY present and those who don't see it either just innocently don't notice it or are denying it. Every single video review of the N4 I've seen has pointed out this issue (or feature, if you like) and I can very clearly see it on my device as well. OP, I'm not saying you should care about it (I don't even notice it any more) but it does exist.
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yeah its definitely there, but it is not lag, not even kind of, or delay or anything. it doesn't really bother me, i dont know why some people get so worked about it. what would happen if they cranked the dead zone down to zero... everyone would complain that its impossible to fine tune how close and far they are trying to zoom, or they keep zooming in and out on accident lol.

Yup, defiantly by design. If you start with your fingers already apart some, there is no delay at all.
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Hate this deadzone!
username8611 said:
yeah its definitely there, but it is not lag, not even kind of, or delay or anything. it doesn't really bother me, i dont know why some people get so worked about it. what would happen if they cranked the dead zone down to zero... everyone would complain that its impossible to fine tune how close and far they are trying to zoom, or they keep zooming in and out on accident lol.
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the iphone don't have it so does my sister's xtreamer joyz(newman n2) with android 4.1.1 no one ever complained about hard fine tuning zoom!
i have this dreadfull deadzone too on my htc one x running aosp based 4.3(cm10.2) while on my sister's phone its a pleasent user experience.
note: THIS "LAG" IS NOT PRESENT IN FIREFOX!(no deadzone at all)
so definatly its an andorid gallery/gmail/browser(and any relying software like g+ whatsapp etc...) thingy.
this minimal distance deadzone is coming into notice when you are used to start zooming with fingers close together.
aka how zoom should be.
any way of trimming that distance out?

Touch screen sensitivity issue still in 38R

I wonder if anyone is also experiencing sensitivity issues with the new 38R OTA.
In my case It is evident when scrolling (homescreen, twitter, whatsapp....) and typing. Also the capacitive buttons seem a bit unresponsive from time to time.
What about you guys?
Edit: here you have the prove (bad scrolling and multitouch problem) i think i am going to RMA
Multitouch and sensitivity issues in 38R: http://youtu.be/KSAl1Uh_Src
Edit:
Suddenly the issue has been gone for a week, no problems at all since 15 October... I am so confused
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The sensibility issue is back on 24/10/2014 without changing anything

QuBeX said:
I wonder if anyone is also experiencing sensitivity issues with the new 38R OTA.
In my case It is evident when scrolling (homescreen, twitter, whatsapp....) and typing. Also the capacitive buttons seem a bit unresponsive from time to time.
What about you guys?
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Yes, I also still have troubles with it. I especially notice it when typing.

gr4nchio said:
Yes, I also still have troubles with it. I especially notice it when typing.
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Do you think it could be hardware problem? I am not sure, because sometimes it works perfect, but it is the 10% of the whole time

QuBeX said:
Do you think it could be hardware problem? I am not sure, because sometimes it works perfect, but it is the 10% of the whole time
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I am really not sure... the last couple days I was on 33R CM11S with AK kernel and did not notice the problem at all. But it is not something that happens often in my case. So it is possible that I just did not wait long enough for it to appear.
I will stay on stock cm11s 38R for a few more days and then probably switch back to AK kernel to see if my previous experience is reproducible.
Did you even try to use a different kernel? Did you still have the issue?

gr4nchio said:
I am really not sure... the last couple days I was on 33R CM11S with AK kernel and did not notice the problem at all. But it is not something that happens often in my case. So it is possible that I just did not wait long enough for it to appear.
I will stay on stock cm11s 38R for a few more days and then probably switch back to AK kernel to see if my previous experience is reproducible.
Did you even try to use a different kernel? Did you still have the issue?
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Just flashed AK, It seems that the unresponsiveness is still there
I am really dissapointed, i though this OTA would solve sensitivity problem...

QuBeX said:
Just flashed AK, It seems that the unresponsiveness is still there
I am really dissapointed, i though this OTA would solve sensitivity problem...
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Sorry to hear it did not help.
I have also just noticed this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55195972&postcount=62 which suggests macgyvering an improved grounding for the phone. I have to admit that I don't understand exactly what to do. But it might become clearer if I get frustrated enough to actually open up the phone
Please let me know if you try it and it works.

Touch screen is still going to be an issue. You can check the original bug which was reported here (still says in progress) https://jira.cyanogenmod.org/browse/BACON-55

gr4nchio said:
Sorry to hear it did not help.
I have also just noticed this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55195972&postcount=62 which suggests macgyvering an improved grounding for the phone. I have to admit that I don't understand exactly what to do. But it might become clearer if I get frustrated enough to actually open up the phone
Please let me know if you try it and it works.
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It could work but i don't want to touch inside the phone very much, I don't want to void my warranty. I think I will RMA with this video I just made. Multitouch and sensitivity issues in 38R: http://youtu.be/KSAl1Uh_Src

QuBeX said:
It could work but i don't want to touch inside the phone very much, I don't want to void my warranty. I think I will RMA with this video I just made. Multitouch and sensitivity issues in 38R: http://youtu.be/KSAl1Uh_Src
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You should just know that OPO's customer service while polite, will give you the run around a while. Took me about a month before they finally granted the RMA.

jlevy73 said:
You should just know that OPO's customer service while polite, will give you the run around a while. Took me about a month before they finally granted the RMA.
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Will they RMA for a refund or just a new phone? I'm not convinced this will ever be fixed in software, and I'd rather go back to a mainstream manufacturer at this point.

dipdewdog said:
Will they RMA for a refund or just a new phone? I'm not convinced this will ever be fixed in software, and I'd rather go back to a mainstream manufacturer at this point.
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Not sure since I just requested a new phone.

dipdewdog said:
Will they RMA for a refund or just a new phone? I'm not convinced this will ever be fixed in software, and I'd rather go back to a mainstream manufacturer at this point.
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They will, at least, replace your phone. I did and am waiting for my new one to arrive. If multitouch issues remain (and most likely will) i'll ask for a refund. I don't really care if the phone is "cheap for specs", this flaw is unacceptable.
My S3 is much worse hardware wise and feels SO much better while typing or anything else touch related. I did have to open a ticket and later show up a few videos of multitouch malfunctioning to oneplus. They decided it was a malfunctioning unit and i was eligible for a replacement. They never mentioned bacon 55 or a "known issue" common to every phone that would be solved at some point later on.
It's taking forever too. It's been over a month and it's mainly their fault because they take so long to reply to every single email. They did ask my VAT number before hand so they could send an invoice with it to my customs that would facilitate the returning process. Despite that, my phone got stuck on my country's customs precisely because they sent them an invoice without it and was up to me to ask it to oneplus. I waited about a week for what seems an poorly excel made document (compared to my country's invoices this is a joke of a document ). I sent it to the courier who picked up and they forwarded it to customs. Stuff went smooth from that point on. Oh yea, i'm from Portugal and even though my phone was sent to me from the UK the first time, to return a phone, you're going to send it to Hong Kong. All free of charge. I did have to print loads of pre made documents (about 10 pages?), because apparently sending anything with a battery is a big deal safety wise.
Even though they are, like someone said, polite, they do take a good while to reply to anything and aren't very keen to answer to anything that falls a bit out of their "process". For example, I've asked them several times if they would send me a new phone before or after a return mine. They never really cared enough to answer. Their English also seems translated by google sometimes. Several different people may take care of the same case. I've had about 5 or 6 different names reply to me and they all just use their first name like "Wilona". It made me stop to think i was sending my already paid phone to some place across the world because this randomly named guy told me so by email - in any other different scenario this would scream of a scam. But I've placed my RMA through an official ticket on their website, they actually made a new order request from their store on their website, they use very well known couriers with tracking numbers and it's the only way i'm ever getting a chance of having a properly working phone.
I did warn them before sending my "faulty" unit back they can expect me asking for a full refund if this new one isn't working any better.

I have been on liquidsmooth rom since I got the phone, no problems with touchscreen whatsoever, Installed new 38 CMS today and started to experience that problem. Also, cms lags compare to AOSP, this is pretty weird

QuBeX said:
Do you think it could be hardware problem? I am not sure, because sometimes it works perfect, but it is the 10% of the whole time
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Flashing ColorOS for me gave a much better touchscreen experience, things worked flawlessly in all apps for me(Amazon is my biggest issue, any scrolling over a description/review would select it and move you to that section to read it, does not happen at all in ColorOS), so im thinking its software

This issue is so exaggerated...
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What is the touchscreen issue that people are referring to? Mine seems perfect? The only issue is the slight yellow at the bottom but you only notice it if you actually go looking for it.

jojohnson250 said:
This issue is so exaggerated...
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Not really. It's bothersome.
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Mines slightly yellow at the bottom, appears to be getting a bit better though, unless thats just my eyes playing tricks on me. I haven't noticed touchscreen issues except i can't seem to press the spacebar properly

My touchscreen seems to be very picky as to where I touch. Sometimes it takes a few attempts. Since 38 I have had random reboots. I m stock rooted without anything else flashed.

jojohnson250 said:
This issue is so exaggerated...
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If you can say that you're a lucky one. It can render your phone completely unusable. Imagine your phone randomly assuming touches when you're not even touching it, non stop (stuff opening, key input, etc). You can't do anything else while it happens and the only way to stop is by rebooting. 5 to 10 times a day, everyday. Also, just about anything multitouch like simply zooming on a webpage has a 50% chance of working or send your phone spazing on a zooming in/out frenzy. So I'd say it isn't exaggerating, you just aren't experiencing the worse of it.

Frame Drops like hell

Can anyone please report if they are seeing lots of crazy frame drops on this phone? I'm running rooted Xxx No Limits, but have observed the same on Elemental OS too. When you turn on 'Profile GPU Rendering' in the Developer Settings to 'On screen bars', I see a crazy amount of frame drops every where. I bought this phone because it is suppose to offer the best smoothness and performance rivaling only the Pixel, specially after the fantastic 3T. Attached are some images showing the frame drops on even mundane tasks like scrolling Settings menu. Is anyone else seeing this behavior?
I use Action Launcher, but can anyone report if they see this on their stock launcher or other launchers?
PS: The phone 'seems' smooth and fast when doing these tasks. It doesn't seem to slow down and drop frames like crazy like an S8 or G6, which can be seen with the naked eye. It's only when I turn on GPU profiling that I can detect these frame drops. Is the GPU profiling reporting 'broken' and incorrectly reporting lots of frame drops? I'm confused.

Hey, I just checked and I got the exact same results, maybe even a bit more drops than you do. I'm using the stock launcher. Phone is absolutely smooth aside from that. I'm not sure, but this may be in correspondence with the jelly-scrolling issue? I'm not sure if I'm affected though, if yes, the jelly effect is minimal.
Are you affected by the jelly scrolling?

Chaphasilor said:
Hey, I just checked and I got the exact same results, maybe even a bit more drops than you do. I'm using the stock launcher. Phone is absolutely smooth aside from that. I'm not sure, but this may be in correspondence with the jelly-scrolling issue? I'm not sure if I'm affected though, if yes, the jelly effect is minimal.
Are you affected by the jelly scrolling?
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I don't see the jelly scrolling effect on my phone. I'm not sure if this frame drop issue and the jelly scrolling effect are related. Its interesting to know that you see a lot more frame drops in the rendering.

i agreed with you, for this phone having the latest 835 which is suppose to give a straight line of performance (no frame drops) yet i see a lot of those

what the hell is going on with this phone ...

i dont know if its the phone or the softwere but im so returning, the only reason i bought was because of the 835 and because its was the latest and will give you continues performance, its all a lie

Probably because the screen is upside down!

B3501 said:
Probably because the screen is upside down!
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ha! True!
Its a cheap chinese knock off phone

worldsoutro said:
ha! True!
Its a cheap chinese knock off phone
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100%

Just tested on a Galaxy S8 and that graph looks even worst!!!!
What's happening?!?! Snap 835 is the culprit?
But I've seen a review with the HTC U11 and it doesn't do this.

Yeah mine is far from smooth as well, dunno,it just does not scroll smooth, my Nexus 5 on MIUI is soooo much smoother, way less frame drops.. I suppose theissue will vanish with the right ROM / Optmization, perhaps changing to a different CPU governor could help already..

Is this really a big deal if you can't see it until you run this log that shows you its happening?

atistang said:
Is this really a big deal if you can't see it until you run this log that shows you its happening?
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People are like: "I didn't know I had a problem until I ran this app now I'm like O..M..G!". These people can't be for real. They should try standing on there heads, looking in a mirror, with the phone upside down.. see how it scores.

zone23 said:
People are like: "I didn't know I had a problem until I ran this app now I'm like O..M..G!". These people can't be for real. They should try standing on there heads, looking in a mirror, with the phone upside down.. see how it scores.
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Its like the Jelly scrolling thing. I bet 85% of the people *****ing about it haven't even held a OP5. I watched those videos and then paid close attention to my 6P, guess what? It does the same damn thing!
About the only real issues I have seen are the WiFi and autobrightness issues, and camera performance. The WiFi seems to have been fixed and the camera could and most likely will be improved... I hope.
And from what I have seen out of the camera isn't bad, but it is very average for a phone bought 2 years ago. I just believe the hardware is much more capable of better results.

atistang said:
Its like the Jelly scrolling thing. I bet 85% of the people *****ing about it haven't even held a OP5. I watched those videos and then paid close attention to my 6P, guess what? It does the same damn thing!
About the only real issues I have seen are the WiFi and autobrightness issues, and camera performance. The WiFi seems to have been fixed and the camera could and most likely will be improved... I hope.
And from what I have seen out of the camera isn't bad, but it is very average for a phone bought 2 years ago. I just believe the hardware is much more capable of better results.
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I'm right there with you brother.. The auto brightness has been a "real" issue for me. I have not had the jelly thing but then again I didn't go looking for it. The camera? Well I took what I though were some really nice looking photos over the 4th.

atistang said:
Is this really a big deal if you can't see it until you run this log that shows you its happening?
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zone23 said:
People are like: "I didn't know I had a problem until I ran this app now I'm like O..M..G!". These people can't be for real. They should try standing on there heads, looking in a mirror, with the phone upside down.. see how it scores.
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Thank god I am not the only one, reading through some of the threads I am starting to feel like I am the crazy here. People are like "The phone is smooth but this tool is showing frame drops, **** Oneplus, I am returning this phone."

So they will return a 500€ flagship which runs smooth and they dont notice lags without a tool? They expect that the CPU is the cause of frame drops?
Seriously, this must be a joke. Its just looking for a problem when you dont have one.
I do notice the jelly scrolling, but its minimal, so its kinda cool, like a subtle animation.
Camera could be better but nobody can say its bad, they just overhyped it and didn't meet expectation.
Battery life is like out of this world, I got 8h of SoT, good luck on other phones with that.
No other issues were encountered in the meantime. Perfect phone.

I get drops with the launcher, inc app drawer but it's not significant. I'm currently using a custom kernel as well.
Here's Chrome:

stebsgb1 said:
I get drops with the launcher, inc app drawer but it's not significant. I'm currently using a custom kernel as well.
Here's Chrome:
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The screenshot you have posted doesn't show any frame drops. Can you let e know what kernel you are using?

Here are my rom and kernel details. No governor settings changes etc, I'm just using the kernel out-the-box.